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inTaCtfuL
03/26/24 11:20:06 AM
#51:


Lol, I would certainly hope that you can get a PC that cost 200 dollars more in 2024 that's better than a console that released in 2020.

This isn't nowhere near a flex you think it is

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TMOG
03/26/24 11:20:07 AM
#52:


loafy013 posted...
So since i don't care about 4k, 60fps, or the new FF7 game, I'm fine just sticking with my PS4 then.
Yeah, that's about where I'm at. If I bought a PS5 at this point it would literally only be for Final Fantasy 16 and 7 Rebirth, as none of the other (exclusive) games on it really interest me. It's just not worth the cost of entry to play two games, I can wait for the exclusivity period to run out and play them elsewhere.

If it gets more exclusives down the line that I want to get, I'll re-evaluate this position. GTA6 might be one that I can add to the list, depending on if the Final Fantasy titles are still exclusive when it releases. But right now it's not worth it for two.
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WingsOfGood
03/26/24 11:20:20 AM
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People who aren't good at computers will absolutely run into bugs they will never be able to fix on a PC. Consoles this won't happen because every console is the same so the bug can be patched specifically to be fixed for the same exact hardware and system version.
Something as simple as a driver update can be daunting for some people and truthfully some manufacturers make it more complicated than it should be.
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Murphiroth
03/26/24 11:20:26 AM
#54:


The PS5 isn't loud at all but Marth's the guy who had a meltdown over soda pop tops being too loud so his judgment there is suspect.
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HorsemnBusiness
03/26/24 11:21:15 AM
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The more I see you post about computers the more I dont think you know anything lol

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TMOG
03/26/24 11:22:03 AM
#56:


Murphiroth posted...
The PS5 isn't loud at all but Marth's the guy who had a meltdown over soda pop tops being too loud so his judgment there is suspect.
He also recently had a melty over the price of video games being too high but he'll spend hundreds of dollars on figurines of anime girls to (I hope) do absolutely nothing with.
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HorsemnBusiness
03/26/24 11:23:52 AM
#57:


If you want a decently good pc set up it will cost between $1000-1200. This is including parts that will actually last 6 years and still be able to play games until the next gen.

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MarthGoomba
03/26/24 11:24:09 AM
#58:


Murphiroth posted...
The PS5 isn't loud at all but Marth's the guy who had a meltdown over soda pop tops being too loud so his judgment there is suspect.
Maybe do a little bit of reading and try to be a bit more understanding of what people suffer from

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperacusis

I don't get why you feel the need to be so antagonistic

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pinky0926
03/26/24 11:25:15 AM
#59:


MarthGoomba posted...
Not much of an upside if that's all

I don't put much thought into my PC build, and the enjoyment of optimizing it to be near silent even in demanding games is worth it.

Because you are already an enthusiast. You love this stuff. You know this stuff. You building a new PC requires little to no mental or emotional energy. The experience of it is actually enjoyable to you. Look at you, you literally put together a build on pc part picker just for the fun of it to have this discussion.

Do you understand that that is really not the case for almost the entire population of the earth? 98% of the people in my office switch off mentally before you could even get them to replace a stick of RAM, and I work in a software company.

If this is hard for you to understand, just imagine me trying to get you to do a hobby that you really don't enjoy at all.

Bro it's super easy to get in shape. I could have you deadlifting 400lbs in a year and it wouldn't even be that hard. Let's just go to the gym for 4 hours a week for the next year. You in?

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VeggetaX
03/26/24 11:25:43 AM
#60:


What's wrong with you guys? Building a PC is as easy as putting together basic Lego LMAO

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WingsOfGood
03/26/24 11:26:52 AM
#61:


VeggetaX posted...
What's wrong with you guys? Building a PC is as easy as putting together basic Lego LMAO

It actually is. Just be careful not to static shock the RAM or CPU. :)

I say it is harder to debug some software issues for games than actually put the PC together.
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Murphiroth
03/26/24 11:29:17 AM
#62:


MarthGoomba posted...
Maybe do a little bit of reading and try to be a bit more understanding of what people suffer from

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperacusis

I don't get why you feel the need to be so antagonistic

I just stated facts.

And that sucks if you truly do suffer from that, but given your history you'll understand if I'm skeptical.
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MrFingers07
03/26/24 11:30:04 AM
#63:


A 600 dollars PC that was made in 2024 performing better than a 500 dollar console that was made in 2020? Really....

Make this topic when you can build a 250 dollar PC that's on par with the PS5. All this topic did for me was make the PS5 the more reasonable choice

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MarthGoomba
03/26/24 11:31:24 AM
#64:


Murphiroth posted...
I just stated facts.
You exaggerated and twisted what I said to make it an attack against me

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Murphiroth
03/26/24 11:32:33 AM
#65:


MarthGoomba posted...
You exaggerated and twisted what I said to make it an attack against me

Nope.
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MarthGoomba
03/26/24 11:34:21 AM
#66:


Murphiroth posted...
Nope.
Saying I had a meltdown is a massive exaggeration

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Samurai_Man
03/26/24 11:58:37 AM
#67:


VeggetaX posted...
Where's the OS? The sound card?
My brother in Christ, you haven't needed 'sound cards' for quite some while.

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Trelve
03/26/24 12:00:43 PM
#68:


MarthGoomba posted...
Linux is free and the motherboard includes audio
"Linux is only free if you don't value your time"
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VeggetaX
03/26/24 12:14:09 PM
#69:


Samurai_Man posted...
My brother in Christ, you haven't needed 'sound cards' for quite some while.
Pshh and you guys call yourself PC Master Race

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Samurai_Man
03/26/24 12:26:45 PM
#70:


VeggetaX posted...
Pshh and you guys call yourself PC Master Race
I run a separate Atom Labs DAC/AMP Stack. It handles all my audio needs, no 'sound card' needed

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Foppe
03/26/24 12:28:07 PM
#71:


Wait wait wait...
You can build a PC that is more powerful than the PS5, 4 years after the PS5 launch, for 150% of the PS5 price?

...and you still have to pay more for I/O devices and a way to install any OS?

...and you sound proud by this?
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Bass
03/26/24 12:30:59 PM
#72:


Samurai_Man posted...
My brother in Christ, you haven't needed 'sound cards' for quite some while.
Yeah, if you're worried about audio you're buying a USB DAC/amp. No audiophile has used soundcards for years.

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Itachi157
03/26/24 12:35:10 PM
#73:


I know PC is better but the only thing that annoys me is when my PC Master Race friends go on about how consoles hold back gaming. Yeah if games were only on PC graphics etc would be at an overall higher level but not nearly as many games would be being made without the consumer base provided by consoles. Like others have pointed out in the topic, the vast majority of people will not bother with building a custom PC.
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DirkDiggles
03/26/24 12:36:02 PM
#74:


VeggetaX posted...
Where's the OS? The sound card?

A sound card in 2024? pfffftttttttt

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Samurai_Man
03/26/24 1:13:53 PM
#75:


DirkDiggles posted...
A sound card in 2024? pfffftttttttt
They gotta be trolling lmao

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VeggetaX
03/26/24 4:28:28 PM
#76:


Please do ever call yourself a PC gamer again.

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Alteres
03/26/24 4:30:45 PM
#77:


Itachi157 posted...
I know PC is better but the only thing that annoys me is when my PC Master Race friends go on about how consoles hold back gaming. Yeah if games were only on PC graphics etc would be at an overall higher level but not nearly as many games would be being made without the consumer base provided by consoles. Like others have pointed out in the topic, the vast majority of people will not bother with building a custom PC.
It's also a complete and utter lie.

If that were the case everything would look like fortnite or wow, so enough people would actually be able to play it to turn a profit... cutting edge with a tiny install base is never going to happen unless they are charging you thousands for fucking software.

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Rika_Furude
03/26/24 4:34:48 PM
#79:


Linux is fine but really you need windows for gaming on PC unless you get lucky and the only games you care about just work. Theres plenty of games that just wont let you play online if youre on Linux or the DRM will ban you or some shit. Theres also the ecosystem around gaming which is developed for Windows

mobo sound is definitely fine but unless you are half deaf there is an immediate and obvious audio improvement using a DAC and AMP, these days its better to get them external and plug the DAC in via USB tho
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Punished_Blinx
03/26/24 4:45:30 PM
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8GB VRAM isn't a great idea if you want to future proof for PC for AAA games.

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Sheiky-Baby
03/26/24 4:48:07 PM
#81:


The problem is majority of people don't know how to build a pc, and are too intimidated to.

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Smashingpmkns
03/26/24 5:02:29 PM
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I have all the consoles plus a pretty great PC connected to my living room tv (4K 120 hz). Consoles are 100% more convenient than PCs. I can't express how often I have to troubleshoot BG3 on my PC. Spend like 30 minutes just trying to get that mf working. That being said when it works it works wonderfully.

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Foppe
03/26/24 5:20:55 PM
#83:


Rika_Furude posted...
Linux is fine but really you need windows for gaming on PC unless you get lucky and the only games you care about just work. Theres plenty of games that just wont let you play online if youre on Linux or the DRM will ban you or some shit. Theres also the ecosystem around gaming which is developed for Windows
According to TC, games are bad and not worth playing if they dont run in Linux.

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PowerOats
03/26/24 5:21:46 PM
#84:


That's 200 bucks more than a PS5
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SicSlayer
03/26/24 5:23:20 PM
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lmfao

do you see the topic title. this whole thread is a hate boner for consoles. are you that dense.

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ChrisTaka
03/26/24 5:40:32 PM
#86:


pinky0926 posted...
Because you are already an enthusiast. You love this stuff. You know this stuff. You building a new PC requires little to no mental or emotional energy. The experience of it is actually enjoyable to you. Look at you, you literally put together a build on pc part picker just for the fun of it to have this discussion.

Do you understand that that is really not the case for almost the entire population of the earth? 98% of the people in my office switch off mentally before you could even get them to replace a stick of RAM, and I work in a software company.

If this is hard for you to understand, just imagine me trying to get you to do a hobby that you really don't enjoy at all.

Bro it's super easy to get in shape. I could have you deadlifting 400lbs in a year and it wouldn't even be that hard. Let's just go to the gym for 4 hours a week for the next year. You in?

I feel like stuff like this should be said more when it comes to console vs PC.

PC probably is better overall when it comes to performance, but console is way more casual friendly, and it goes without saying that casuals make up a majority of most things.

Like what if I don't care that my games aren't at 4K? What if I don't care that I can't play a game at 120FPS? What if I don't care that I can't make Tifa naked with mods

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chris1001_the_sequel
03/26/24 5:41:07 PM
#87:


Punished_Blinx posted...
8GB VRAM isn't a great idea if you want to future proof your PC for AAA games.

As a 3070 owner i can personally confirm that

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MarthGoomba
03/26/24 6:29:01 PM
#88:


PowerOats posted...
That's 200 bucks more than a PS5
After a few years of PS+ it's hundreds less than a PS5 and can do so much more

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RetuenOfDevsman
03/26/24 6:33:54 PM
#89:


Who gives a damn

You go build your PC and let people who wanna play whatever the hell exclusives PS5 has do their own thing

Gracious it's not rocket science
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Unknown5uspect
03/26/24 7:07:20 PM
#90:


Punished_Blinx posted...
8GB VRAM isn't a great idea if you want to future proof your PC for AAA games.
Is 12GB VRAM good though? Because I'm kinda on the fence between a 4070 Super and a 7900 GRE.

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Bandit_Keith
03/26/24 7:09:36 PM
#91:


MarthGoomba posted...
After a few years of PS+ it's hundreds less than a PS5 and can do so much more
But you don't have to buy PS+. I've literally never bought it once, or paid for PSN either. Never.

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MarthGoomba
03/27/24 12:06:31 AM
#92:


Bandit_Keith posted...
But you don't have to buy PS+
And miss out on important features that PC has for free like cloud saves and being able to play online

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Guide
03/27/24 12:11:54 AM
#93:


hyperpowder posted...


Im playing Dragons Dogma and it aint getting a consistent 4k 60 on my 4080.

DD2 is so horribly optimized that even people with high end PCs are killing NPCs to make the game run more smoothly.

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Foppe
03/27/24 1:42:21 AM
#94:


MarthGoomba posted...
After a few years of PS+ it's hundreds less than a PS5 and can do so much more
You can at least communicate with the PS 5...

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Foppe
03/27/24 1:43:21 AM
#95:


Guide posted...
DD2 is so horribly optimized that even people with high end PCs are killing NPCs to make the game run more smoothly.
But I thought these things were automatically fixed with mods?

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iGenesis
03/27/24 1:46:51 AM
#96:


inTaCtfuL posted...
Lol, I would certainly hope that you can get a PC that cost 200 dollars more in 2024 that's better than a console that released in 2020.

This isn't nowhere near a flex you think it is


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Guide
03/27/24 1:52:32 AM
#97:


Foppe posted...
But I thought these things were automatically fixed with mods?

Is this problem on PC only?

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2Pacavelli
03/27/24 1:53:09 AM
#98:


No not really
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Bandit_Keith
03/27/24 2:32:09 AM
#99:


MarthGoomba posted...
And miss out on important features that PC has for free like cloud saves and being able to play online
I don't need cloud saves. At all. Not once have I ever wanted or needed that. And I don't play online. I don't want to do that. I like single player games. I game on PC too. I don't play online games here either. Nor do I use cloud saves here. I have no need for them. To add the price of something I don't want to the cost is asinine.

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Zwijn
03/27/24 2:35:23 AM
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Debatable. Pure performance specs stopped being impressive long ago. Gimme Astro over 8K 120fps RT any day now. Most impressive games are Astro (controller features) and Hunt Showdown (best audio to date and built around it, also a game thats on last gen).
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