Board 8 > Honkai Star Rail Topic 9: Oni May Cry

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pyresword
04/03/24 10:17:24 PM
#151:


"Oh y'know maybe Acheron won't actually be that good in Pure Fiction because you need Nihility and Nihility sucks there."

--Me, a stupid idiot

(Note: I don't have Black Swan or Kafka, though this is still stupid either way.)

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MrSmartGuy
04/03/24 10:55:18 PM
#152:


I let my luck dictate how deep I went on Acheron. If I lost my 50/50, then I just wouldn't bother at all and keep saving. If I won, then I would at least try for E1. If I won that 50/50 too, then I'd go all the way for E2S1.

It decided to give me two Acherons and then pull the rug and give me a Himeko and Bronya's LC, so I had to dig into all of the new top up bonuses, but to E2S1 I got.

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HeroDelTiempo17
04/03/24 10:57:25 PM
#153:


It took an entire year but it's kinda crazy Nihility is in the running for best DPS path

Not because it's #1 at something in particular, but it just seems to do everything

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paperwarior
04/03/24 10:58:54 PM
#154:


I lost the 50/50 with E1 Yanqing so... really gonna hope for Aventurine.

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UshiromiyaEva
04/03/24 10:59:22 PM
#155:


Every path's potential continues to rise. I'm seeing teams where Robin is the DPS coming out in the leaks lol. And it WORKS!

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Denji
04/03/24 10:59:57 PM
#156:


paperwarior posted...
I lost the 50/50 with E1 Yanqing
He only exists to torment us

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paperwarior
04/03/24 11:02:19 PM
#157:


Denji posted...
He only exists to torment us
His boss fight is a hassle too!

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UshiromiyaEva
04/03/24 11:04:21 PM
#158:


Boy just won't learn his lesson.

https://youtu.be/-B2wMnlEeXM?si=85QLDnWWVOp_xqxa

Still waiting for some type of new, Hunt focused set that revitalizes the path.

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paperwarior
04/03/24 11:07:36 PM
#159:


Ratio is the Hunt superstar to me currently.

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BK_Sheikah00
04/03/24 11:09:07 PM
#160:


I wonder wtf do you do with a Ratio/Topaz team against the 2.1 boss

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paperwarior
04/03/24 11:11:17 PM
#161:


Just dismantled Death with him and Sampo in SU. Admittedly that's Sampo and Nihility path doing most of the work.

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UshiromiyaEva
04/03/24 11:18:44 PM
#162:


paperwarior posted...
Ratio is the Hunt superstar to me currently.

I suppose Seele just set this precedent for just raw, circumstancless, on turn numbers that they haven't really done since then.

Boothill is gonna be hitting that niche too, I suppose? Still has other factors to consider like Break Effect, compared to Seele just bursting. It's not like Seele needs a new set since she's Quantum, but it's weird that Boothill is going to want, what....2 piece Physical, 2 piece Break? Feels like there should be something designed for single target damage.

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HeroDelTiempo17
04/04/24 12:00:37 AM
#163:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
I suppose Seele just set this precedent for just raw, circumstancless, on turn numbers that they haven't really done since then.

Honestly I much prefer Ratio spreading damage across 2+ big hits because it makes him a champ at breaking, which is busted if you add Ruan Mei. And Tingyun giving him more ults also goes kinda nuts.

Also because when Seele's ult doesn't crit I want to throw my phone across the room

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UshiromiyaEva
04/04/24 12:26:50 AM
#164:


Got my next Standard Banner 5*

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/a/aae8e9ab.jpg

There is no escape.

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BK_Sheikah00
04/04/24 11:42:51 PM
#165:


No Herta needed. Got full stars by scraping 25k on the first half with Kafka/Black Swan/Jingliu/Ruan Mei. And then fully clearing Cocolia side with Acheron/Pela/Sparkle/FireMC

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pyresword
04/05/24 12:57:22 AM
#166:


I have E2 which definitely helps but Acheron is nuts this Pure Fiction with how fast she can build stacks for her ultimate with the right passive. I 40k'd the Cocolia side with Fu Xuan/Himeko/Sparkle/Acheron. So no Nihility even needed though I guess Himeko does apply debuffs through burns.

I also barely broke 20k on the other side even using Herta but we don't talk about that one.

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Arti
04/05/24 3:06:37 AM
#167:


I also got a 5* on the standard banner today

Another copy of Gepard's LC

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BK_Sheikah00
04/05/24 12:58:16 PM
#168:


Holy shit. I had given up on the previous Pure Fiction cus I got no follow up attackers. But Acheron, with the buff to turn ults knto follow ups, just helped me get full stars like it was nothing. Her ult builds up the gimmick damage from 0 to 100% cus each hit counts.

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BK_Sheikah00
04/05/24 1:00:29 PM
#169:


I guess the one thing is, when it's about to be the Eye's turn, you hold Acheron's ult, wait for the Eye to advance all enemies, then immeadiately unleash the ult.

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MrSmartGuy
04/05/24 1:00:55 PM
#170:


Did a ranker here and it made me realize how good 2.1 was. Did not think going into this that he would top my rankings, but yeah. It checks out.

https://honkaistarrailsorter.tumblr.com

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/0/006902f5.jpg

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swordz9
04/06/24 8:23:42 AM
#171:


Got Clara to max traces now. Still gotta get relics for her though
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HeroDelTiempo17
04/06/24 1:15:06 PM
#172:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/ebeea659.jpg

And just because I thought it was funny, 11-13 go Dan Heng, March 7th, and...Numby.

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HeroDelTiempo17
04/06/24 1:15:42 PM
#173:


Oh and of course,

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/ec387631.jpg

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swordz9
04/06/24 1:32:30 PM
#174:


I did it, but only including playable characters.

Top 10:
Topaz
Xueyi
March
Kafka
Asta
Silver Wolf
Qingque
Lil Gui
Jingliu
Nat

Bottom 10:
Pela
Herta
Misha
Luocha
Argenti
Luka
Yanqing
Caelus
Sampo
Dr. Ratio
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MrSmartGuy
04/06/24 3:54:18 PM
#175:


Keep in mind this is slightly behind, given that Acheron is not in the "Currently Playable" category.

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swordz9
04/06/24 4:23:17 PM
#176:


I selected unreleased with it and she appeared for that. I dont think Aventurine showed up though. Only Penacony ones that showed up for me were Sparkle, Acheron, Black Swan and Misha I think
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trdl23
04/07/24 1:35:04 AM
#177:


Ratio went from one of my worst as of 2.0 to one of my favorite as of 2.1

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TheManaSword
04/08/24 9:19:10 AM
#178:


Hit TB70 today. I have beaten the game.

Also Acheron really is kinda busted with Erudition in SU. I did a conundrum 2 run this morning with her, Pela, Gui and Gepard. Gui and Gepard has zero relics equipped and I still cleared.

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catesdb
04/08/24 10:59:11 AM
#179:


TheManaSword posted...
Also Acheron really is kinda busted with Erudition in SU. I did a conundrum 2 run this morning with her, Pela, Gui and Gepard. Gui and Gepard has zero relics equipped and I still cleared.
what the heck

maybe i should finally do enough G&G to unlock erudition

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tcaz2
04/08/24 6:18:37 PM
#180:


Starting to think main stat speed on boots doesn't actually exist and the entire Internet of resources on this game is trolling me specifically
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UshiromiyaEva
04/08/24 6:26:10 PM
#181:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/3/340a4f5e.jpg

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catesdb
04/08/24 6:54:42 PM
#182:


idk I think tcaz has a point

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TheManaSword
04/10/24 8:17:13 AM
#183:


Triple disappointment starts today

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mcflubbin
04/10/24 11:48:31 AM
#184:


This game is such a bastard. I'm trying to get some better relics for Gepard / prefarming DEF relics for Aventurine, and all of a sudden there's attack and crit substats flying around all over the place ugh

Maybe I'll have some better luck with that triple disappointment

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TheManaSword
04/10/24 12:00:35 PM
#185:


Yup. I was DEF pieces nonstop when I was farming for Acheron. Now that Im farming for Gepard, nothing.

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pyresword
04/10/24 12:03:28 PM
#186:


I've gotten so many great crit pieces for the watchmaker set it's unbelievable

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swordz9
04/10/24 12:16:33 PM
#187:


Hmm wonder who I should go for triple wise
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trdl23
04/10/24 12:31:19 PM
#188:


Finally got a decent orb for DHIL. Now for the rope...

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MrSmartGuy
04/10/24 8:23:42 PM
#189:


I got a good set of boots for DHIL. And then......
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/92fdf55f.jpg

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BK_Sheikah00
04/11/24 12:21:35 AM
#190:


My first node with triple planars had 3 DEF orbs and 1 DEF rope for Acheron.

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UshiromiyaEva
04/11/24 12:44:58 AM
#191:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/bb010823.jpg

Go fuck yourself, game.

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BK_Sheikah00
04/11/24 12:51:03 AM
#192:


Well at least I now have Acheron E4

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trdl23
04/11/24 10:18:05 AM
#193:


I swear the game knows which sets are DPS and which are support, then deliberately gives you the opposite.

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pyresword
04/11/24 11:22:19 AM
#194:


trdl23 posted...
I swear the game knows which sets are DPS and which are support, then deliberately gives you the opposite.

For the record I believe this is hard-coded into the game, not in the "wow my bad luck just makes it seem that way" sense

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UshiromiyaEva
04/11/24 11:25:04 AM
#195:


I struggle not to believe that sometimes, because it's just really curious how hard it is to get Defense bodies for defense sets and HP bodies for HP sets.

Probably just confirmation bias, though.

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pyresword
04/11/24 11:32:45 AM
#196:


I don't see why they wouldn't do it. They're already known to tweak main stat drop rates in ways that are invisible to the player* so I don't think it's much of a leap from there to differ them by set.

*Unless I've been the victim of some misinformation campaign, which I suppose is not impossible

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swordz9
04/11/24 11:35:16 AM
#197:


I did 4 of the triple drops on Topaz/March one. I dont think I got anything great out of it though. Next set of 4 Ill try for Xueyi I guess though I dunno if anyone else really uses that set (Talia)
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pyresword
04/11/24 11:39:09 AM
#198:


pyresword posted...
I don't see why they wouldn't do it. They're already known to tweak main stat drop rates in ways that are invisible to the player* so I don't think it's much of a leap from there to differ them by set.

*Unless I've been the victim of some misinformation campaign, which I suppose is not impossible

I guess I should clarify that of course I have no way of really knowing this. I do suspect they do this but it's probably irresponsible to try and assert that with any strength without some kind of statistical survey, which is really the only way to know for sure. (Or I guess getting access to the code but I don't think that is going to happen)

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BK_Sheikah00
04/11/24 11:40:00 AM
#199:


So let me get this straight for Acheron.

18% from E1.
4% from pioneer.
12% from Izumo.

So you need only 66% CR on the stat screen outside of battle?

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UshiromiyaEva
04/11/24 11:41:42 AM
#200:


I mean it's hardly the end of the world if they do, it's not like you pay money to grind relics (....or at least you shouldn't be), plus you can also get some niche pieces out of it for characters like Aeventurine of Bronya.

Didn't some other game recently get caught secretly making it so people who were big spenders already had lower drop rates on limited characters, and they got caught because the drop rate actually fell to 0?

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