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ssb_yunglink2
03/16/24 9:40:32 PM
#51:


falayyou01 posted...
If not mentally ill and murder people yes.
So what happens when they get the wrong guy and he gets the death penalty


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ellis123
03/16/24 9:40:35 PM
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ForsakenHermit posted...
Someone can be right to life and still see lethal force as a necessary evil in some circumstances. Doesn't apply to the death penalty though.
No, that is making an exception. Under RtL you do not support *any* death under its most strict understanding, but most people will accept that it is not entirely black and white.

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Allanon23
03/16/24 9:40:49 PM
#53:


I think that the death penalty should be used more, and it should also be done without spending millions of tax payer dollars on drug cocktails.

Otherwise I lean left on most issues.

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ssb_yunglink2
03/16/24 9:42:45 PM
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Im really surprised at how many people itt are okay with the death penalty. I cant even get to the morality of it when the possibility of sending an innocent person to death is higher than 0%.

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Zwijn
03/16/24 9:44:30 PM
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I have a hard time understanding all these pro-death penalty posts. Thats so far removed from any leftism it cant just be your only right wing take.
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ellis123
03/16/24 9:47:12 PM
#56:


Zwijn posted...
I have a hard time understanding all these pro-death penalty posts. Thats so far removed from any leftism it cant just be your only right wing take.
The most famous instance of the death penalty was the usage of the guillotine. The people that did it were where we get the concept of left:right in a political sense from.

The death penalty is arguably one of the cornerstones of being far-left.

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Zwijn
03/16/24 9:50:49 PM
#57:


ellis123 posted...
The most famous instance of the death penalty was the usage of the guillotine. The people that did it were where we get the concept of left:right in a political sense from.

The death penalty is arguably one of the cornerstones of being far-left.
Those concepts changed a lot over time, you wont find many leftists who advocate for it. I suspect this is also a regional issue. I dont even get the American focus on prison, let alone the death penalty.
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runewalshPSiv
03/16/24 9:51:42 PM
#58:


Immigration. If you didn't come here through the proper legal channels then get the fuck out.

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ssb_yunglink2
03/16/24 9:52:17 PM
#59:


ellis123 posted...
The most famous instance of the death penalty was the usage of the guillotine. The people that did it were where we get the concept of left:right in a political sense from.

The death penalty is arguably one of the cornerstones of being far-left.
It shouldnt be forgotten that the nobles and other famous figures werent the only ones put to guillotine though. Not everyone who was put to death committed a crime on that level. You could be guillotined for suspicion of holding certain beliefs

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ellis123
03/16/24 9:53:37 PM
#60:


Zwijn posted...
Those concepts changed a lot over time, you wont find many leftists who advocate for it. I suspect this is also a regional issue. I dont even get the American focus on prison, let alone the death penalty.
Not exactly. You are explaining why people say that there is no major leftist movement in the US from the opposite direction.

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NoxObscuras
03/16/24 9:55:11 PM
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None. I'm on the left for everything I can think of

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03/16/24 9:55:14 PM
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The minimum wage should not be raised because wage labor should be abolished

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Zwijn
03/16/24 9:56:27 PM
#63:


ellis123 posted...
Not exactly. You are explaining why people say that there is no major leftist movement in the US from the opposite direction.
I dont know about movements in the US but the only party in my country who wants to reinstate the death penalty is a far right Christofascist party.
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electricbugs2
03/16/24 9:57:41 PM
#64:


Zwijn posted...
Those concepts changed a lot over time, you wont find many leftists who advocate for it.
I've spent most of my life voting for the green party (The Canadian version, not the crazy US model), and I'm pro death penalty.

There's some absolute scumbags up here that I wish could be put down. (Paul Bernardo, Willie Pickton, Luka Magnotta etc.) My only caveat is that is has to be beyond a reasonable doubt.

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ellis123
03/16/24 9:58:46 PM
#65:


Zwijn posted...
I dont know about movements in the US but the only party in my country who wants to reinstate the death penalty is a far right Christofascist party.
Hence why the death penalty is not a thing on the left:right scale as it is unrelated to economics or authoritarianism (and why I did the "uhh..." post before).

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PurpleOutsider
03/16/24 10:04:06 PM
#66:


Death penalty. If we still try to say that prison is supposed to be rehabilitation, then I don't think life in prison makes sense. We've already determined that they should never be integrated into society ever.

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Zonbei
03/16/24 10:07:36 PM
#67:


Hayame_Zero posted...
ADD and depression in children is over-diagnosed/over-medicated.
Thats not really a right wing thing, is it? Im a leftist with ADD and I believe that lol.

Dakimakura posted...
Taxes should be lower
Definitely not a right wing position. Thats a left wing position. The right wing position is that taxes specifically on rich people should be lower, and everyone else can get fucked.

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Zonbei
03/16/24 10:08:42 PM
#68:


PurpleOutsider posted...
Death penalty. If we still try to say that prison is supposed to be rehabilitation, then I don't think life in prison makes sense. We've already determined that they should never be integrated into society ever.

Thats more an argument for not having life in prison as a penalty than it is for killing people. If someone truly cannot be rehabilitated, sure, but should at least try.

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Zonbei
03/16/24 10:09:54 PM
#69:


runewalshPSiv posted...
Immigration. If you didn't come here through the proper legal channels then get the fuck out.

Like the people who settled America?

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ssb_yunglink2
03/16/24 10:10:14 PM
#70:


ssb_yunglink2 posted...
Im really surprised at how many people itt are okay with the death penalty. I cant even get to the morality of it when the possibility of sending an innocent person to death is higher than 0%.


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Derwood
03/16/24 10:11:28 PM
#71:


I cant think of a single thing that a right winger has said in the past 20 years that I agree with

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mybbqrules
03/16/24 10:11:30 PM
#72:


I support the second amendment, but believe that the current laws are woefully unenforced.

I don't want to hear another word about equality between the sexes when women can make accusations against fathers in court with no evidence and the father is treated as guilty on that alone.

I also feel that if you make false accusations against someone and it's proven that you did, the punishment should be the same as what the false accusation would carry.

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Ivany2008
03/16/24 10:13:28 PM
#73:


I don't know if its far right, but I believe the death penalty has to be reformed in some way. Right now, the death penalty allows up to 30 extra years in jail to exhaust all evidence. Now, I'm for that if we don't know if the person did it. But if you have someone committing mass murder, and you caught them in the act, there really shouldn't be any point where you have people coming in to "interview" them for some book of "why I did what I did". It should be short and swift. And for those individuals it wouldn't be humane.

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ai123
03/16/24 10:13:29 PM
#74:


electricbugs2 posted...
My only caveat is that is has to be beyond a reasonable doubt.

This is supposed to be the standard now. Just to convict a person. Never mind execute them.


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ForsakenHermit
03/16/24 10:14:23 PM
#75:


Personally I can't agree with any justice system that doesn't allow at least de facto life imprisonment. Some people are too dangerous to ever be released even if apparently rehabilitated. It's incredibly hypocritical to be against the death penalty because an innocent could be killed because of human error and support a system that could allow a dangerous and guilty person to go free and potentially kill innocent people. Some people need to be locked up forever. Be humane to them but their right to freedom shouldbe forfeited.

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Zonbei
03/16/24 10:18:55 PM
#76:


ForsakenHermit posted...
Personally I can't agree with any justice system that doesn't allow at least de facto life imprisonment. Some people are too dangerous to ever be released even if apparently rehabilitated. It's incredibly hypocritical to be against the death penalty because an innocent could be killed because of human error and support a system that could allow a dangerous and guilty person to go free and potentially kill innocent people. Some people need to be locked up forever. Be humane to them but their right to freedom shouldbe forfeited.

Assuming they cannot be rehabilitated even after trying? Sure.

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Zonbei
03/16/24 10:19:36 PM
#77:


ai123 posted...
This is supposed to be the standard now. Just to convict a person. Never mind execute them.

Right, which is why it costs so much to execute someone. Which is why we shouldnt bother because its a waste of money, and just get rid of the death penalty entirely.

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electricbugs2
03/16/24 10:20:36 PM
#78:


ai123 posted...
This is supposed to be the standard now. Just to convict a person. Never mind execute them.
Again, I'm speaking from a Canadian perspective. We don't have the death penalty, but I wish we did for these whack jobs that are not only clearly guilty, but proud of their crimes.

All three of the lunatics I mentioned would all be on death row if they lived in Texas. But because they committed the crimes in Canada, one is eligible for extremely strict day parole, and the other two recently were moved down to medium security prison, despite having whole life orders. To me, that's unacceptable.

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coolcono
03/16/24 10:20:52 PM
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Women should give up children to adoption centers that meet the 75% of abortions that occur due to monetary/social pressures.

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Justin2Krelian
03/16/24 10:26:44 PM
#80:


pjnelson posted...
Pro-life (ferus) pro-capital-punishment (screw murderer lives) gun owning Democrat here. Figure that out. Republicans see me as liberal and Democrats think I'm Republican.

Mind you, this stuff isn't black and white. I don't fancy abortions but I don't believe outlawing abortions is the answer.


Socially right (or center) and Economically left?

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Red_XIV
03/16/24 10:28:00 PM
#81:


Umbreon posted...
Death penalty.

I've started to lose my taste for it though, but I would still consider it for especially egregious abuse of power high up.
I don't oppose the death penalty in principle, because so crimes are just so horrific that nothing less would be sufficient punishment. The problem is that people get wrongfully executed for crimes they didn't commit.

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kage_53
03/16/24 10:40:50 PM
#82:


Revoke the 16th amandment
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Trumble
03/16/24 10:41:03 PM
#83:


Harsh sentences for violent crime.

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Irony
03/16/24 10:41:54 PM
#84:


Death penalty

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Prismsblade
03/16/24 10:44:01 PM
#85:


Praise out SS but for something better, am pro second amendment, not so much immigration, and fully support the death penalty.

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ai123
03/16/24 10:47:31 PM
#86:


I dunno.

I don't support the death penalty under any circumstances, I do support the Scandinavian prison model. I welcome immigration, I think taxes for the wealthy should go up, I'm anti-gun, pro choice, pro UHC and welfare state.

I do think sport in school should be compulsory. Is that right wing?

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mybbqrules
03/16/24 10:53:31 PM
#87:


Ivany2008 posted...
To quote Coach Heinz from Mad Tv "Bullet to the back of the head", or 12 dollar knife from Wal-Mart.
I've always liked the idea of chucking them off the roof of the courthouse. Gravity doesn't cost a thing.

I also believe in the death penalty if there is no doubt that you are guilty. If there a multiple credible eyewitnesses and corroborating evidence you commited the crime, you don't get to take up space any more.

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Ivany2008
03/16/24 10:55:06 PM
#88:


mybbqrules posted...
I've always liked the idea of chucking them off the roof of the courthouse. Gravity doesn't cost a thing.

I also believe in the death penalty if there is no doubt that you are guilty. If there a multiple credible eyewitnesses and corroborating evidence you commited the crime, you don't get to take up space any more.

Gravity doesn't cost a thing, but cleanup does. Cleanup crew would cost more than even lethal injection.
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SydnieStarlight
03/16/24 10:55:40 PM
#89:


I don't think I have any that qualify, except maybe on the technicality of agreeing with part of the premise. Something like, I don't think we should raise taxes for billionaires...because we should instead be seizing all their wealth and putting them in prison.

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mybbqrules
03/16/24 11:05:13 PM
#90:


Ivany2008 posted...
Gravity doesn't cost a thing, but cleanup does. Cleanup crew would cost more than even lethal injection.
Line up a five by five grid of dumpsters lashed together.

Bonus: you can paint each one a different color and people can bet which one they'll land in.

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Sansoldier
03/16/24 11:06:13 PM
#91:


None that I know of really. I think your average police officer is OK, but even 5% corruption is too much. It starts at the top. I think your average businessman is OK, too. It's just that those who use underhanded methods are rewarded and pressure those who follow the rules.

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lilORANG
03/16/24 11:58:56 PM
#92:


Sometimes bad people should just go to prison

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Enclave
03/17/24 12:02:10 AM
#93:


I'm honestly not sure what my most right wing viewpoint is, I don't particularly have any that I can think of.

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Gwynevere
03/17/24 12:42:05 AM
#94:


I don't think being pro gun ownership is inherently right wing, so I'm not gonna count that one

I have conflicting thoughts about the death penalty. I do believe that a person can do things heinous enough that they don't really deserve to live anymore, but there's no satisfying answer to who should have the authority to determine who "deserves" to live.

That's about it, nothing else about my beliefs I'd even remotely call right wing

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JKwaffle
03/17/24 12:45:54 AM
#95:


I sometimes feel exhausted by "cancel culture" and am still pretty in favor of seperating the art from the artist.

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Enclave
03/17/24 12:48:28 AM
#96:


JKwaffle posted...
I sometimes feel exhausted by "cancel culture" and am still pretty in favor of seperating the art from the artist.

Neither of those are particularly right or left wing viewpoints. You regularly have people on both the left and right cancel people and reject art due to who the artist is.

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cjsdowg
03/17/24 12:52:08 AM
#97:


Illegal immigration suppressed the wages of African Americans. And the Democrats don't care because they know that Republicans are so evil and racist that would stop black people for switching over en masse.


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Tyranthraxus
03/17/24 12:53:13 AM
#98:


I know Aleppo is a city somewhere that has cool peppers but don't really know much else about it

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Gwynevere
03/17/24 12:55:59 AM
#99:


JKwaffle posted...
I sometimes feel exhausted by "cancel culture" and am still pretty in favor of seperating the art from the artist.
I'm not gonna pretend people on the left don't participate in cancel culture, but that's definitely not exclusive to the left. Look at how conservatives reacted to bud light featuring a trans person, or the satanic panic of the 80s, stuff like that

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Orestes417
03/17/24 12:56:41 AM
#100:


My only objection to the death penalty is purely economic. Then again I see life without parole as just another form of death penalty that people lie to themselves about to sleep better at night. To put it even more bluntly if an individual can be rehabilitated and be reintegrated with society they should be. If their crimes are at the level they can't then they need to leave the genepool in as expedient a fashion as possible.

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