Current Events > AOC voted NO on the tiktok ban. FIGHT with her and support FREEDOM

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Jerry_Hellyeah
03/14/24 1:02:01 PM
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^ Let's be VERY fuckin clear here, calling someone a fascist isn't an "insult". It's far more heinous than that

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Soliloquy_Rhap
03/14/24 1:09:34 PM
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lmao you guys are mad at an obvious jape.
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Jerry_Hellyeah
03/14/24 1:21:06 PM
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Soliloquy_Rhap posted...
lmao you guys are mad at an obvious jape.

Okay, let's also be clear that politics affect people's livelihood and wellbeing and isn't some little kids toy to piss around with.

Dunno why people think this is something to play with. It's 2024. Get a real hobby.

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Soliloquy_Rhap
03/14/24 1:25:46 PM
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Jerry_Hellyeah posted...
Okay, let's also be clear that politics affect people's livelihood and wellbeing and isn't some little kids toy to piss around with.

Dunno why people think this is something to play with. It's 2024. Get a real hobby.

Oh cry more it's an anonymous video game forum. Even richer when you're one of the thorniest users here lol. Can dish but can't take.
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marthsheretoo
03/14/24 1:27:42 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
If it gets sold to an american company than the american legal system can take them to court over it. How would one legally force TikTok to stop using a keylogger as they are currently structured (without using a ban)?

Also, the bill isn't even a blanket tiktok ban. It gives the president the power to ban apps that pose a national security risk. Everyone keeps calling it a TikTok ban because it's easier to explain, but the problem is then you have all these people going "but why are they singling out TikTok?" when the bill isn't doing that at all.

EDIT: then there's also this:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68556540

They're literally using data harvested to hunt down sources for news stories. In a country where the app itself is banned. AND in strict violation of the steps they took to assure the US this wasn't happening in the first place. People need to stop pretending like TikTok and Facebook are identical things.

Thank you for actually understanding the issue. Too many people are content to assume all privacy violations are equal.

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justaguy3492
03/14/24 1:33:17 PM
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The bill doesn't ban tiktok, it would just force them to separate from bytedance and sell to an American company. Don't fall for propaganda that it's an outright ban, if the bill passes then tiktok will decide if it's allowed to operate in the u.s or not.

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Mecha_Sonic
03/14/24 1:36:58 PM
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tiktok is fucking cancer and it should be banned

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name_unknown
03/14/24 1:58:42 PM
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violent video games are a disease and congress needs to hold hearings on banning them

"overwhelmingly violent, sexist, and racist", Professor Eugene F. Provenzo
"like to ban all the violent video games" Joe Lieberman
"About two months ago, I saw the videogame Night Trap for the first time. It is a sick, disgusting videogame in my judgment. Its an effort to trap and kill women. Shame on the people who produce that trash. Its child abuse in my judgment." Byron Dorgan
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Jerry_Hellyeah
03/14/24 3:05:26 PM
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Soliloquy_Rhap posted...
Oh cry more it's an anonymous video game forum. Even richer when you're one of the thorniest users here lol. Can dish but can't take.

Cry about it and join in I guess, great, thanks

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Soliloquy_Rhap
03/14/24 3:12:49 PM
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Jerry_Hellyeah posted...
Cry about it and join in I guess, great, thanks

I'll give you that this new emo teenager look is a bit more unique.
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sfcalimari
03/14/24 3:50:08 PM
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Compsognathus posted...


What the TikTok ban has failed to demonstrate is how TikTok is doing this demonstratively worse than Facebook, Google, Twitter, etc.

Facebook/Twitter/Youtube promote right-wing terrorism because it makes them money.

TikTok is controlled by the Chinese government which is factually a hostile state towards Western countries. Anything Tiktok does has to be seen through that lens.

That's the difference. You basically have social media companies ruining the world because of capitalism or political warfare. Then the capitalist sites promote Russian trolls because it makes them money.

American sites will never be reigned in because Western politicians love capitalism. If Tiktok is sold to Western owners then it probably won't promote youth crime as much but it will just mostly promote right-wing terrorism and sedition because that is the easiest way for social media to make money.

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JTilly
03/14/24 4:10:34 PM
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Jerry_Hellyeah posted...
^ Let's be VERY fuckin clear here, calling someone a fascist isn't an "insult". It's far more heinous than that
Id do it AGAIN too, but the mods said its not allowed. :(

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Lobinde
03/14/24 4:14:36 PM
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Bigpapaplut posted...
Nah. Fuck tiktok


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JTilly
03/14/24 4:42:24 PM
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Bigpapaplut posted...
Nah. Fuck AOC
Agreed. Sensually and with consent of course.


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Roachmeat
03/14/24 5:08:43 PM
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AOC voted NO on the tiktok ban

And as someone who still buys physical disc games on Playstation 5, this proves my point on having solidarity about something when the majority doesn't gives a @#%
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Robot2600
03/14/24 5:10:40 PM
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Fuck TikTok. I was surprised to see she voted NO but it sounds like it's more about the bill and not about the idea of force selling TikTok to America.

Like, China bans all our shit. Why the fuck should we just let a hostile country socially engineer us?

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Father_
03/14/24 5:11:56 PM
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Robot2600 posted...
Fuck TikTok. I was surprised to see she voted NO but it sounds like it's more about the bill and not about the idea of force selling TikTok to America.

Like, China bans all our shit. Why the fuck should we just let a hostile country socially engineer us?
She also posts on TikTok pretty regularly

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NatsuSama
03/14/24 5:18:19 PM
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Not advocating for it to be banned. At the same time, don't care if it is banned.

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NatsuSama
03/14/24 5:25:58 PM
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@Vyss
Actually I don't care about Tiktok whats more concerning is if it does get banned this could open the door for bans of anything on the Internet.
No it doesn't. Tiktok is being attacked because the company that owns it, and where that company is based, China.

You want to support Tiktok than that's your prerogative, but contextually it's not "opening the door" to American companies. In fact the bill actually allows Tiktok to stay if it becomes American.

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Alteres
03/14/24 7:25:29 PM
#71:


Snip-N-Snails posted...
Crazy how you neolibs don't realize how conservative you sound.
lol, I was chuckling about that myself

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ClayGuida
03/14/24 7:27:20 PM
#72:


sfcalimari posted...
Yes the only way to have freedom is to support a garbage social media platform
Just because you don't like it doesn't mean that our government should ban it.

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ooger
03/14/24 7:29:11 PM
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Dark_Arbron posted...
Who are you voting for in November?
We could ask you the same thing, but we already know the answer.

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HeeathLivesOn
03/14/24 7:32:42 PM
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It's one of the few places left for spreading important political information
I'd prefer to keep it, even though it's also used for spreading disinformation

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mybbqrules
03/14/24 8:33:25 PM
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Soliloquy_Rhap posted...
Oh cry more it's an anonymous video game forum. Even richer when you're one of the thorniest users here lol. Can dish but can't take.
Whose alt?

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Soliloquy_Rhap
03/14/24 8:38:00 PM
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mybbqrules posted...
Whose alt?

It's a callback to him using the same words to someone else in another topic. He's a hypocrite.
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Toonstrack
03/14/24 8:39:32 PM
#77:


ClayGuida posted...
Just because you don't like it doesn't mean that our government should ban it.

Idk about ban, but I dont see the problem with restricting it.

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sfcalimari
03/14/24 9:30:14 PM
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ClayGuida posted...
Just because you don't like it doesn't mean that our government should ban it.

Would you support a social media platform run by the Taliban or the FSB or North Korea if it was fun to use?

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Soliloquy_Rhap
03/14/24 9:45:50 PM
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sfcalimari posted...
Would you support a social media platform run by the Taliban or the FSB or North Korea if it was fun to use?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VK_(service%29
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Mecha_Sonic
03/14/24 9:53:10 PM
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why do you guys think tiktok's algorithms are pushing so much stuff about palestine to people's feeds, hmmmmmm

zoomers are posting about gaza way more than they ever posted about, say.... republicans banning abortion for millions of people

artsakh got wiped off the map and ethnically cleansed in the last few months and nobody even knows about that. why is that do you think

why do you think the algorithms care so disproportionately much about gaza

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NoMeLx22x
03/14/24 11:12:58 PM
#81:


Mecha_Sonic posted...
why do you guys think tiktok's algorithms are pushing so much stuff about palestine to people's feeds, hmmmmmm

zoomers are posting about gaza way more than they ever posted about, say.... republicans banning abortion for millions of people

artsakh got wiped off the map and ethnically cleansed in the last few months and nobody even knows about that. why is that do you think

why do you think the algorithms care so disproportionately much about gaza

....because America is involved in it? Duh.

What are you even trying to say here?

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Alteres
03/15/24 12:29:01 AM
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Hes saying china controls the algorithms to try to influence the election.

In the same vein that others suggested that china uses it to destabilize their enemies and therefore will never share the tech.

The real problems are the key loggers and other such potential security breaches, because people are fucking idiots.

Of those 150 million how many of those do you think are government employees or work in civil infrastructure like power or gas mains?

Think they never log in on a work machine, or unsafely connect private devices to their networks?

It is a massive potential security issue.

Im against the ban personally, but not being honest about the situation helps nothing.

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Dark_Arbron
03/15/24 1:30:46 AM
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ooger posted...
We could ask you the same thing, but we already know the answer.

Tell me who Im voting for in November.

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JTilly
03/15/24 2:15:09 AM
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yeezy

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Naysaspace
03/15/24 2:18:18 AM
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remember last year when sinophobia was at a high and everyone wanted to ban the tikatok? i mean, trump wants to keep it, so aren't all the lefty heroes anti-tikatok? how does this work exactly. AOC is aligned with trump -- brain pretzel?

pepperidge farm remembers

i feel like the xenophobia has transitioned away from the chinese and into indians now. at least in canada it has. And, how. iykyk.

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JTilly
03/15/24 2:33:02 AM
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Naysaspace posted...
remember last year when sinophobia was at a high and everyone wanted to ban the tikatok? i mean, trump wants to keep it, so aren't all the lefty heroes anti-tikatok? how does this work exactly. AOC is aligned with trump -- brain pretzel?

pepperidge farm remembers

i feel like the xenophobia has transitioned away from the chinese and into indians now. at least in canada it has. And, how. iykyk.
idkmybfjil

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Fenriswolf
03/15/24 2:37:00 AM
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Mecha_Sonic posted...
tiktok is fucking cancer and it should be banned

But shorts on Instagram and YouTube is totally cool right?

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ClayGuida
03/15/24 5:54:33 AM
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sfcalimari posted...
Would you support a social media platform run by the Taliban or the FSB or North Korea if it was fun to use?
Are you now saying China is a terrorist organization? Because they aren't.

The fact people are falling for this fear mongering is why we got trump in the first place. Tik Tok isn't a threat to you or the US. Republicans only want it banned because young people used it to troll Trump in 2020 and make him look like an idiot. Prior to that nobody gave a shit about it.

Twitter's purchase by Elon was heavily funded by the Saudi government. Should we also ban that too? Here's a hint, if we banned everything owned by foreign interests, we'd be left with very little.

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Dark_Arbron
03/15/24 6:01:25 AM
#89:


Dark_Arbron posted...
Tell me who Im voting for in November.


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Soliloquy_Rhap
03/15/24 6:47:32 AM
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Alteres posted...
Hes saying china controls the algorithms to try to influence the election.

In the same vein that others suggested that china uses it to destabilize their enemies and therefore will never share the tech.

The real problems are the key loggers and other such potential security breaches, because people are fucking idiots.

Of those 150 million how many of those do you think are government employees or work in civil infrastructure like power or gas mains?

Think they never log in on a work machine, or unsafely connect private devices to their networks?

It is a massive potential security issue.

Im against the ban personally, but not being honest about the situation helps nothing.

TikTok has been banned on government and other sensitive data devices for a year now. That's completely valid to me. Other developed countries have done the same. No other country has done a population wide ban though and it feels weird that the country that prides itself on its freedom is banning something before other nanny state developed countries that havent.
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Dark_Arbron
03/15/24 6:51:07 AM
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Soliloquy_Rhap posted...
TikTok has been banned on government and other sensitive data devices for a year now. That's completely valid to me. Other developed countries have done the same. No other country has done a population wide ban though and it feels weird that the country that prides itself on its freedom is banning something before other nanny state developed countries that havent.

Americas status as land of the free is, and always has been bullshit. Look at how many people who cry were free! turn out to be extremely authoritarian about parenting, schooling, capitalist exploitation and the legal system destroying peoples lives.

Hell its founders were slave owners. That set the tone right there.

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Soliloquy_Rhap
03/15/24 6:56:33 AM
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Dark_Arbron posted...
Americas status as land of the free is, and always has been bullshit. Look at how many people who cry were free! turn out to be extremely authoritarian about parenting, schooling, capitalist exploitation and the legal system destroying peoples lives.

Hell its founders were slave owners. That set the tone right there.

Yeah, red state/conservative things. Which is what makes the alleged liberals cheering it on stand out.
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ClayGuida
03/15/24 4:16:46 PM
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Soliloquy_Rhap posted...
Yeah, red state/conservative things. Which is what makes the alleged liberals cheering it on stand out.
That's the annoying part. Republicans want to also ban porn. China has little to do with porn, yet Republicans are trying to ban it. Why? Because they don't like it. The same exact reason they want to ban TikTok.

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JTilly
03/16/24 8:29:52 PM
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I dont think any of you signed that petition and im actually hella disappointed smh

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