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JTilly
03/14/24 3:39:19 AM
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https://www.change.org/p/stop-the-tiktok-ban-021414e9-86da-402c-8fef-59294d08416d

TOGETHER we can fight against the tyranny of the U.S. Govt trying to control social media.


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Dark_Arbron
03/14/24 3:42:07 AM
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Who are you voting for in November?

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JTilly
03/14/24 3:58:32 AM
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Remember every signature on this petition is a vote for FREEDOM, support AOC

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Rika_Furude
03/14/24 6:45:17 AM
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Surely of all the petitions in the world this is the one that will finally matter
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sfcalimari
03/14/24 6:47:44 AM
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Yes the only way to have freedom is to support a garbage social media platform operated by the Chinese government to promote crime in Western countries so that China can feel better about being a garbage country.

It's the only way!

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NeonOPPAl
03/14/24 6:48:41 AM
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Man, she's so fucking hot

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Bigpapaplut
03/14/24 7:01:29 AM
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Nah. Fuck tiktok

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Snip-N-Snails
03/14/24 7:05:50 AM
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sfcalimari posted...
Yes the only way to have freedom is to support a garbage social media platform operated by the Chinese government to promote crime in Western countries so that China can feel better about being a garbage country.

It's the only way!

Crazy how you neolibs don't realize how conservative you sound.

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Crazyman93
03/14/24 7:10:45 AM
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So, now she's siding with Trump?

Granted, Trump was all for a bam before Biden supported it.

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Sheiky-Baby
03/14/24 7:12:44 AM
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Bigpapaplut posted...
Nah. Fuck tiktok


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gu-gohan
03/14/24 7:14:48 AM
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No, I won't. Social media causes directly and indirectly a lot of harm to millions of people. It desperately needs to be stronger regulated and moderated. As long as the companies can't guarantee that, I'm not against speaking out bans. Especially if these platforms come from countries with questionable intentions. It shouldn't stop with Tiktok. Other platforms like Facebook, Twitter or Telegram should also held accountable for tolerating criminal content on their platforms.

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Fenriswolf
03/14/24 7:16:47 AM
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Yes the only way to have freedom is to support a garbage social media platform operated by the Chinese government to promote crime in Western countries so that China can feel better about being a garbage country.

It's the only way!

That's rich coming from the Israel apologist who judges countries based on how much they cater to American expats.

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Snip-N-Snails
03/14/24 7:17:02 AM
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gu-gohan posted...
No, I won't. Social media causes directly and indirectly a lot of harm to millions of people. It desperately needs to be stronger regulated and moderated. As long as the companies can't guarantee that, I'm not against speaking out bans. Especially if these platforms come from countries with questionable intentions. It shouldn't stop with Tiktok. Other platforms like Facebook, Twitter or Telegram should also held accountable for tolerating criminal content on their platforms.
And niche video game forums and their mountain of right wingers.

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texanfan27
03/14/24 7:18:05 AM
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As much as I dont like the idea of banning a social media platform, I feel it will improve the IQ of people with it gone and not getting flooded with stupid shit from it.

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BobanMarjanovic
03/14/24 7:20:06 AM
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Snip-N-Snails posted...
And niche video game forums and their mountain of right wingers.
which site?

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s0nicfan
03/14/24 7:21:12 AM
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Tiktok literally injects key logging code into your browser whenever you visit a link through the app. I keep bringing this up and people keep ignoring it. I'm hoping it's not because tiktok investigated itself and determined that they totally only use that code for debugging.

https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/tiktoks-in-app-browser-can-monitor-your-keystrokes-researcher-says/
According to research published Thursday by Felix Krause, a Vienna-based software researcher, when TikTok users access a website through a link in the TikTok app, the app inserts code into the website that allows TikTok to monitor activity like keystrokes and what users are tapping on that site.

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Snip-N-Snails
03/14/24 7:25:24 AM
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BobanMarjanovic posted...
which site?
All of them. After all, the FBI has also designated Gamers as likely extremists.

s0nicfan posted...
Tiktok literally injects key logging code into your browser whenever you visit a link through the app. I keep bringing this up and people keep ignoring it. I'm hoping it's not because tiktok investigated itself and determined that they totally only use that code for debugging.

https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/tiktoks-in-app-browser-can-monitor-your-keystrokes-researcher-says/

So what have they done with this info?

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LeoRavus
03/14/24 7:32:56 AM
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Over 100 million Americans use the social media app TikTok

That's crazy.

Anyway those youtube shorts are pretty much the same annoying format. Why don't the tiktokers just move there. Plus it has twice as many users.

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Soliloquy_Rhap
03/14/24 7:38:18 AM
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LeoRavus posted...
Over 100 million Americans use the social media app TikTok

That's crazy.

Anyway those youtube shorts are pretty much the same annoying format. Why don't the tiktokers just move there. Plus it has twice as many users.

Don't make youtube worse than it already is holy shit.
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Ricemills
03/14/24 7:38:21 AM
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LeoRavus posted...
Anyway those youtube shorts are pretty much the same annoying format. Why don't the tiktokers just move there. Plus it has twice as many users.

They don't "move" there.
They simply post their videos on both sites.

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rexcrk
03/14/24 8:10:20 AM
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Shes so freaking based.


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Were_Wyrm
03/14/24 8:13:37 AM
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Tankies gonna tank

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JTilly
03/14/24 8:14:17 AM
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sfcalimari posted...
Yes the only way to have freedom is to support a garbage social media platform operated by the Chinese government to promote crime in Western countries so that China can feel better about being a garbage country.

It's the only way!

Bigpapaplut posted...
Nah. Fuck tiktok

gu-gohan posted...
No, I won't. Social media causes directly and indirectly a lot of harm to millions of people. It desperately needs to be stronger regulated and moderated. As long as the companies can't guarantee that, I'm not against speaking out bans. Especially if these platforms come from countries with questionable intentions. It shouldn't stop with Tiktok. Other platforms like Facebook, Twitter or Telegram should also held accountable for tolerating criminal content on their platforms.
Ahhhh, thankyou, thankyou for outing yourself as fascists good to know!

NeonOPPAl posted...
Man, she's so fucking hot

rexcrk posted...
Shes so freaking based.
Agreed

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Fenriswolf
03/14/24 8:16:11 AM
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Were_Wyrm posted...
Tankies gonna tank

Did you just call AOC a tankie? LMAO

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JuanCarlos1
03/14/24 8:29:02 AM
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I can see the political attack ads

Video in black and white showing not very flattering pics of AOC, asking you if you really want to vote for a CCP shill.

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Snip-N-Snails
03/14/24 8:31:40 AM
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Fenriswolf posted...
Did you just call AOC a tankie? LMAO

From what I have him tagged as I think he's being ironic. It's really hard to tell these days.

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crayola555
03/14/24 8:33:55 AM
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sfcalimari posted...
Yes the only way to have freedom is to support a garbage social media platform operated by the Chinese government to promote crime in Western countries so that China can feel better about being a garbage country.

It's the only way!

Old naive boomer call conservative user detected

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chitown82
03/14/24 8:37:05 AM
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No government official should have tik tok on their phone.
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pezzicle
03/14/24 8:38:12 AM
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Crazyman93 posted...
So, now she's siding with Trump?

Granted, Trump was all for a bam before Biden supported it.

she is on record saying she has issues with the sped with which it was written and passed, and feels like the content of the bill needs to be read and scrutinized and such before it should be passed.


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uwnim
03/14/24 8:42:52 AM
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Crazyman93 posted...
So, now she's siding with Trump?

Granted, Trump was all for a bam before Biden supported it.
Trump swapped because he met with sone rich guy who paid him to support TikTok.

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NoMeLx22x
03/14/24 9:03:51 AM
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Were_Wyrm posted...
Tankies gonna tank

Tankie has lost all meaning

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Compsognathus
03/14/24 9:14:38 AM
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I absolutely agree with the idea that are personal and private information absolutely needs to have stronger protections so it can not be used in dubious ways. It's bad that the internet has largely turned into a vehicle to harvest our information.

What the TikTok ban has failed to demonstrate is how TikTok is doing this demonstratively worse than Facebook, Google, Twitter, etc. Beyond the fact that it's Chinese-owned. If they were really concerned about our user information, they would have passed a law protecting that, not just banning a platform they didn't like.

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bover_87
03/14/24 9:30:24 AM
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Compsognathus posted...
I absolutely agree with the idea that are personal and private information absolutely needs to have stronger protections so it can not be used in dubious ways. It's bad that the internet has largely turned into a vehicle to harvest our information.

What the TikTok ban has failed to demonstrate is how TikTok is doing this demonstratively worse than Facebook, Google, Twitter, etc. Beyond the fact that it's Chinese-owned. If they were really concerned about our user information, they would have passed a law protecting that, not just banning a platform they didn't like.
They're doing this so they can scream about Communism for November.

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bigblu89
03/14/24 9:35:21 AM
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If TikTok goes away, you know you guys can just go to Instagram to see girls shake their tits.

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Ratchetrockon
03/14/24 9:58:55 AM
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Yay!
I'm glad to see some tiktok supporters!!! Bro I needed tiktok yesterday to uplift my spirit a little bit. I don't want it to be banned

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DarthAragorn
03/14/24 10:01:14 AM
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bigblu89 posted...
If TikTok goes away, you know you guys can just go to Instagram to see girls shake their tits.
I don't use tiktok

It should not be banned

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Ratchetrockon
03/14/24 10:02:57 AM
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I was watching clips of a guy pumping up a water balloon till it popped (1 pump per like donation lol) yesterday

Why do people think tiktok is just for lewd content???

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gamer167
03/14/24 10:09:42 AM
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Meh TikTok sucks and theres plenty of other social media apps, idc what happens to it
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bigblu89
03/14/24 10:11:24 AM
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Ratchetrockon posted...
I was watching clips of a guy pumping up a water balloon till it popped (1 pump per like donation lol) yesterday

Why do people think tiktok is just for lewd content???

Yeah. I see guys opening packs of baseball cards on there as well.

But joking about that isn't as funny as joking that horny guys use it to watch thots shake their tits.

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s0nicfan
03/14/24 10:17:10 AM
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Compsognathus posted...
I absolutely agree with the idea that are personal and private information absolutely needs to have stronger protections so it can not be used in dubious ways. It's bad that the internet has largely turned into a vehicle to harvest our information.

What the TikTok ban has failed to demonstrate is how TikTok is doing this demonstratively worse than Facebook, Google, Twitter, etc. Beyond the fact that it's Chinese-owned. If they were really concerned about our user information, they would have passed a law protecting that, not just banning a platform they didn't like.


s0nicfan posted...
Tiktok literally injects key logging code into your browser whenever you visit a link through the app. I keep bringing this up and people keep ignoring it. I'm hoping it's not because tiktok investigated itself and determined that they totally only use that code for debugging.

https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/tiktoks-in-app-browser-can-monitor-your-keystrokes-researcher-says/

Krause's research looked at more than just TikTok. In total, he tested seven iPhone apps that use in-app browsers, including TikTok, Facebook, Facebook Messenger, Instagram, Snapchat, Amazon and Robinhood. Of those, TikTok is the only one that appears to monitor keystrokes, Krause said. Krause didn't test the Android version of TikTok's app.

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Paragon21XX
03/14/24 10:29:33 AM
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Freedom to spy on and socially engineer our citizens on behalf of the Chinese Communist Party?

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Full_Pokedex
03/14/24 10:37:02 AM
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I say that TikTok and other Social Media should be protected by the First Amendment if they aren't already. It's a terrible thing to cut individuals off from each other, should be illegal.

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Compsognathus
03/14/24 10:39:13 AM
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s0nicfan posted...
Krause's research looked at more than just TikTok. In total, he tested seven iPhone apps that use in-app browsers, including TikTok, Facebook, Facebook Messenger, Instagram, Snapchat, Amazon and Robinhood. Of those, TikTok is the only one that appears to monitor keystrokes, Krause said. Krause didn't test the Android version of TikTok's app.
That's bad. But does it stop if TikTok gets sold to an American company, stopping the ban?

We need rules in place to stop that behavior and punishments in place to make it not worth doing it anyway. A blanket ban of Tiktok doesn't do that.

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Jerry_Hellyeah
03/14/24 10:41:03 AM
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Honestly if we have to end democracy or life on earth in general to kill Tik Tok, so be it.

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s0nicfan
03/14/24 10:46:27 AM
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Compsognathus posted...
That's bad. But does it stop if TikTok gets sold to an American company, stopping the ban?

We need rules in place to stop that behavior and punishments in place to make it not worth doing it anyway. A blanket ban of Tiktok doesn't do that.

If it gets sold to an american company than the american legal system can take them to court over it. How would one legally force TikTok to stop using a keylogger as they are currently structured (without using a ban)?

Also, the bill isn't even a blanket tiktok ban. It gives the president the power to ban apps that pose a national security risk. Everyone keeps calling it a TikTok ban because it's easier to explain, but the problem is then you have all these people going "but why are they singling out TikTok?" when the bill isn't doing that at all.

EDIT: then there's also this:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68556540
Chinese companies are subject to a national security law requiring them to share data with the government on request.

TikTok has tried to reassure regulators that it has taken steps to ensure the data of its 150 million users in the US has been walled off from ByteDance employees in China.

However, an investigation by the Wall Street Journal in January found the system was still "porous", with data being unofficially shared between TikTok in the US and ByteDance in China. High-profile cases, including one incident where ByteDance employees in China accessed a journalist's data to track down their sources, have stoked concerns.

They're literally using data harvested to hunt down sources for news stories. In a country where the app itself is banned. AND in strict violation of the steps they took to assure the US this wasn't happening in the first place. People need to stop pretending like TikTok and Facebook are identical things.

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C_Pain
03/14/24 10:50:25 AM
#46:


So banning drugs is bad but banning tiktok is good? Fickle!

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Vyss
03/14/24 11:39:52 AM
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Actually I don't care about Tiktok whats more concerning is if it does get banned this could open the door for bans of anything on the Internet.

Also where do Google and Facebook stand with Tiktok?

Are these all 3 technically competitors for the same type of audience?
How does anyone know what information is real here?

I don't trust any of those companies.
It also sounds reasonable they'd quietly be at war with eachother.
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Resident_Hill
03/14/24 11:49:15 AM
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Bigpapaplut posted...
Nah. Fuck tiktok


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masterbarf
03/14/24 11:58:10 AM
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I need an AOC ticket in four years.

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gu-gohan
03/14/24 12:05:20 PM
#50:


JTilly posted...
Ahhhh, thankyou, thankyou for outing yourself as fascists good to know!
Your post shows exactly what is wrong with social media. You label me even though you know nothing about me. How can you look in the mirror with a clear conscience knowing that you are insulting people you know absolutely nothing about? I leave a lot of good in the world by respecting all general rules and treating everyone around me equally. I never insult anyone if there isn't a real reason for it, and not before I know about the facts, the person and the circumstances. You, on the other hand, just insult people and randomly label them how you see fit, just because you disagree with them on a single topic. How is that kind of behaviour progressive or mature?

I'm not sure if my message affects you in any way, meaning, if you self-reflect about what I wrote or not. Your decision. I decide to stop at this point and don't engage in any further discussions with you, since I know who I am and I'm at peace with myself.

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