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IqarP15 03/13/24 11:55:17 AM #52:	Good, social media is a disease. --- "SPOILERS"... If ppl call me a douche bag I reply "Well at least I'm scoring!" <cite>IqarP15 posted [p:979345669] in Bye bye, T... [t:80720457]...</cite> <quote>Good, social media is a disease. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ejolson 03/13/24 11:55:39 AM #53:	FLAMING_EVIL_HOMER posted... Wait this thing isnt just a ban on us government company phones or whatever? No, it gives TikTok parent ByteDance 5 months to sell to a US company or face being banned from American use. --- Get up, Stand up, Stand up for your rights! <cite>ejolson posted [p:979345674] in Bye bye, T... [t:80720457]...</cite> <quote>FLAMING_EVIL_HOMER posted... </cite><quote>Wait this thing isnt just a ban on us government company phones or whatever?</quote>No, it gives TikTok parent ByteDance 5 months to sell to a US company or face being banned from American use. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ejolson 03/13/24 11:56:54 AM #54:	IqarP15 posted... Good, social media is a disease. Spoken like some incel neck beard that does not know the power or wants to see the power of grassroots movements destroyed and the power of the state control everything. --- Get up, Stand up, Stand up for your rights! <cite>ejolson posted [p:979345697] in Bye bye, T... [t:80720457]...</cite> <quote>IqarP15 posted... </cite><quote>Good, social media is a disease.</quote>Spoken like some incel neck beard that does not know the power or wants to see the power of grassroots movements destroyed and the power of the state control everything. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rosstin316 03/13/24 11:56:59 AM #55:	Full_Pokedex posted... So you want to restrict free speech? I want to restrict the cancerous poison of absolute lies and evil propaganda presented as news that bots/trolls intentionally spread to cause anger, brainwashing and arguments that have infected this planet and destroyed society, yes. --- [This signature is viewable with an active GameFAQs Gold subscription.] <cite>Rosstin316 posted [p:979345700] in Bye bye, T... [t:80720457]...</cite> <quote>Full_Pokedex posted... </cite><quote>So you want to restrict free speech?</quote>I want to restrict the cancerous poison of absolute lies and evil propaganda presented as news that bots/trolls intentionally spread to cause anger, brainwashing and arguments that have infected this planet and destroyed society, yes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WesternMedia 03/13/24 11:57:55 AM #56:	Communist China is Americas largest geopolitical foe and is using technology to actively undermine Americas economy and security," Speaker Mike Johnson, R-La., said in a statement after the vote, warning that TikTok could be used to access American data and spread "harmful" information. "Todays bipartisan vote demonstrates Congress opposition to Communist Chinas attempts to spy on and manipulate Americans, and signals our resolve to deter our enemies." Fifty Democrats and 15 Republicans voted against the bill. Among them were progressives like Reps. Pramila Jayapal, D-Wash., Ro Khanna, D-Calif., and Ruben Gallego, D-Ariz., a Senate candidate, as well as conservatives like Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Ga., who lamented that she had previously been banned from social media. The top Democrat on the Intelligence Committee, Rep. Jim Himes, D-Conn., was a surprising no vote. He also cited free speech issues with the bill. Adversaries like China "shut down newspapers, broadcast stations, and social media platforms. We do not," Himes said in a statement. "We trust our citizens to be worthy of their democracy. We do not trust our government to decide what information they may or may not see." TikTok, owned by China-based parent company ByteDance, has mounted an aggressive lobbying campaign to kill the legislation, arguing that it would violate the First Amendment rights of its 170 million U.S. users and harm thousands of small businesses that rely on it. "This process was secret and the bill was jammed through for one reason: its a ban," the company said on X. Paul Tran, who, with his wife, has a skin care company called Love and Pebble, protested at a pro-TikTok rally outside the Capitol on Tuesday, with a message for members: You will be destroying small businesses like us; this is our livelihood. Weve created success." He said their business nearly shut down last year until TikTok Shop came along and totally exploded our business. Now 90% of their business comes from the app, he said. If you pass this bill, Tran said, you will be destroying the American Dream that we really believe in. Despite that push, the bill sailed through the House, raising pressure on the Democratic-led Senate to act. President Joe Biden, whose 2024 campaign joined TikTok last month, has said that if the bill reaches his desk, he will sign it into law. Its backers say its wrong to call the legislation an outright ban. Dubbed the Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act, the bill would create a process for the president through the FBI and intelligence agencies to designate certain social media applications under the control of foreign adversaries, like China, Russia, Iran and North Korea, as national security threats. Once an app was deemed a risk, it would be banned from online app stores and web-hosting services unless it severed ties with entities under control of the foreign adversary within 180 days of the designation. That means TikTok, which FBI Director Christopher Wray has testified poses a risk to national security, could face a ban unless ByteDance acted quickly to divest it. What were after is a separation from TikTok from its parent company, ByteDance, and by extension CCP, the bills author, Rep. Mike Gallagher, R-Wis., chairman of the select committee investigating the Chinese Communist Party, said Tuesday as he left a classified all-House briefing about the dangers of TikTok. And in that world, TikTok users can continue to use the platform. In fact, I think it would allow for a better user experience. U.S. lawmakers and intelligence officials worry the Chinese government could use TikTok to access personal data from its millions of users and use algorithms to show them videos that could influence their views, including in the coming presidential election. Testifying before Congress a year ago, TikTok CEO Shou Zi Chew denied that the Chinese government controls the app and pushed back against suggestions that China accesses U.S. user data. Asked about the bill before Wednesday's vote, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Wang Wenbin said that "despite the lack of evidence proving TikTok poses a threat to US national security, the U.S. has continued to suppress TikTok." "This practice of resorting to bullying tactics when unable to win in fair competition disrupts normal business operations, damages international investors' confidence in the investment environment, and undermines the normal international economic and trade order, ultimately harming the U.S. itself," he continued. In writing the bill, Gallagher teamed up with the top Democrat on the China panel, Rep. Raja Krishnamoorthi of Illinois, who consulted with former Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., an outspoken critic of China's human rights violations throughout her long career. My concern is about what TikTok has done in Taiwan, saying that the Uyghurs love their genocide and the people of Hong Kong love their voter suppression, Pelosi told reporters. But she added: "We want TikTok to exist; were not here to ban it. Ive said we want to make it Tik-Tok-Toe. We want to make it something that is not a fearful social media platform but one that is very positive. And in order to do that, we have to see the divesting of it from the Chinese government having custodial possession of the data. ... Who controls the algorithm controls all of it. ... It is a national security issue. And its a personal security issue. The multibillion-dollar social media behemoth's presence was everywhere on Capitol Hill ahead of the House vote. TikTok users got pop-ups on the app urging them to call their local representatives, as well as push notifications saying: "Help stop the TikTok shutdown." Outside the Capitol, a handful of young House Democrats Robert Garcia and Sarah Jacobs of California, Maxwell Frost of Florida and Delia Ramirez of Illinois rallied alongside TikTok creators to express their opposition to the bill. Frost, 27, called himself a hell no on the bill and predicted that if the vote had been delayed by a week, opposition would have grown. JT Laybourne, one of the creators, said he is disgusted to hear lawmakers mocking TikTok and the creators on it because millions of small businesses rely on it. My voice is on TikTok. My purpose is on TikTok. Thats it. We cant let this happen, Laybourne pleaded. --- Cherish me <cite>WesternMedia posted [p:979345717] in Bye bye, T... [t:80720457]...</cite> <quote>Communist China is Americas largest geopolitical foe and is using technology to actively undermine Americas economy and security," Speaker Mike Johnson, R-La., said in a statement after the vote, warning that TikTok could be used to access American data and spread "harmful" information."Todays bipartisan vote demonstrates Congress opposition to Communist Chinas attempts to spy on and manipulate Americans, and signals our resolve to deter our enemies."Fifty Democrats and 15 Republicans voted against the bill. Among them were progressives like Reps. Pramila Jayapal, D-Wash., Ro Khanna, D-Calif., and Ruben Gallego, D-Ariz., a Senate candidate, as well as conservatives like Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Ga., who lamented that she had previously been banned from social media.The top Democrat on the Intelligence Committee, Rep. Jim Himes, D-Conn., was a surprising no vote. He also cited free speech issues with the bill.Adversaries like China "shut down newspapers, broadcast stations, and social media platforms. We do not," Himes said in a statement. "We trust our citizens to be worthy of their democracy. We do not trust our government to decide what information they may or may not see."TikTok, owned by China-based parent company ByteDance, has mounted an aggressive lobbying campaign to kill the legislation, arguing that it would violate the First Amendment rights of its 170 million U.S. users and harm thousands of small businesses that rely on it. "This process was secret and the bill was jammed through for one reason: its a ban," the company said on X.Paul Tran, who, with his wife, has a skin care company called Love and Pebble, protested at a pro-TikTok rally outside the Capitol on Tuesday, with a message for members: You will be destroying small businesses like us; this is our livelihood. Weve created success."He said their business nearly shut down last year until TikTok Shop came along and totally exploded our business. Now 90% of their business comes from the app, he said.If you pass this bill, Tran said, you will be destroying the American Dream that we really believe in.Despite that push, the bill sailed through the House, raising pressure on the Democratic-led Senate to act. President Joe Biden, whose 2024 campaign joined TikTok last month, has said that if the bill reaches his desk, he will sign it into law.Its backers say its wrong to call the legislation an outright ban. Dubbed the Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act, the bill would create a process for the president through the FBI and intelligence agencies to designate certain social media applications under the control of foreign adversaries, like China, Russia, Iran and North Korea, as national security threats.Once an app was deemed a risk, it would be banned from online app stores and web-hosting services unless it severed ties with entities under control of the foreign adversary within 180 days of the designation. That means TikTok, which FBI Director Christopher Wray has testified poses a risk to national security, could face a ban unless ByteDance acted quickly to divest it.What were after is a separation from TikTok from its parent company, ByteDance, and by extension CCP, the bills author, Rep. Mike Gallagher, R-Wis., chairman of the select committee investigating the Chinese Communist Party, said Tuesday as he left a classified all-House briefing about the dangers of TikTok. And in that world, TikTok users can continue to use the platform. In fact, I think it would allow for a better user experience.U.S. lawmakers and intelligence officials worry the Chinese government could use TikTok to access personal data from its millions of users and use algorithms to show them videos that could influence their views, including in the coming presidential election. Testifying before Congress a year ago, TikTok CEO Shou Zi Chew denied that the Chinese government controls the app and pushed back against suggestions that China accesses U.S. user data.Asked about the bill before Wednesday's vote, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Wang Wenbin said that "despite the lack of evidence proving TikTok poses a threat to US national security, the U.S. has continued to suppress TikTok.""This practice of resorting to bullying tactics when unable to win in fair competition disrupts normal business operations, damages international investors' confidence in the investment environment, and undermines the normal international economic and trade order, ultimately harming the U.S. itself," he continued.In writing the bill, Gallagher teamed up with the top Democrat on the China panel, Rep. Raja Krishnamoorthi of Illinois, who consulted with former Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., an outspoken critic of China's human rights violations throughout her long career.My concern is about what TikTok has done in Taiwan, saying that the Uyghurs love their genocide and the people of Hong Kong love their voter suppression, Pelosi told reporters.But she added: "We want TikTok to exist; were not here to ban it. Ive said we want to make it Tik-Tok-Toe. We want to make it something that is not a fearful social media platform but one that is very positive. And in order to do that, we have to see the divesting of it from the Chinese government having custodial possession of the data. ... Who controls the algorithm controls all of it. ... It is a national security issue. And its a personal security issue.The multibillion-dollar social media behemoth's presence was everywhere on Capitol Hill ahead of the House vote. TikTok users got pop-ups on the app urging them to call their local representatives, as well as push notifications saying: "Help stop the TikTok shutdown."Outside the Capitol, a handful of young House Democrats Robert Garcia and Sarah Jacobs of California, Maxwell Frost of Florida and Delia Ramirez of Illinois rallied alongside TikTok creators to express their opposition to the bill.Frost, 27, called himself a hell no on the bill and predicted that if the vote had been delayed by a week, opposition would have grown.JT Laybourne, one of the creators, said he is disgusted to hear lawmakers mocking TikTok and the creators on it because millions of small businesses rely on it.My voice is on TikTok. My purpose is on TikTok. Thats it. We cant let this happen, Laybourne pleaded. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ejolson 03/13/24 11:59:40 AM #57:	Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; *or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances*. --- Get up, Stand up, Stand up for your rights! <cite>ejolson posted [p:979345743] in Bye bye, T... [t:80720457]...</cite> <quote>Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corbenik 03/13/24 12:01:29 PM #58:	how does this go against the 1st amendment? just use YouTube its also american --- The power it holds can bring either salvation or destruction at the whim of the user - Aura <cite>Corbenik posted [p:979345777] in Bye bye, T... [t:80720457]...</cite> <quote>how does this go against the 1st amendment?just use YouTubeits also american </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Full_Pokedex 03/13/24 12:02:11 PM #59:	Rosstin316 posted... I want to restrict the cancerous poison of absolute lies and evil propaganda presented as news that bots/trolls intentionally spread to cause anger, brainwashing and arguments that have infected this planet and destroyed society, yes. So your solution is to restrict speech for everyone? This is why we can't have nice things. --- Donkey Kong is our friend! Please call often DK, don't be a stranger! From Toadsworth, Mario Party 7 Vote Larry Hogan for 2024. <cite>Full_Pokedex posted [p:979345793] in Bye bye, T... [t:80720457]...</cite> <quote>Rosstin316 posted... </cite><quote>I want to restrict the cancerous poison of absolute lies and evil propaganda presented as news that bots/trolls intentionally spread to cause anger, brainwashing and arguments that have infected this planet and destroyed society, yes.</quote>So your solution is to restrict speech for everyone? This is why we can't have nice things. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zwijn 03/13/24 12:03:50 PM #61:	Ill be honest, this issue is way too complicated for me and I cannot form an opinion on this because for all the bad shit social media has caused a lot of good comes with it as well. I dont think regulation is that great of an idea either. I dont know what to think. My gut feeling says let social media be. <cite>Zwijn posted [p:979345814] in Bye bye, T... [t:80720457]...</cite> <quote>Ill be honest, this issue is way too complicated for me and I cannot form an opinion on this because for all the bad shit social media has caused a lot of good comes with it as well. I dont think regulation is that great of an idea either. I dont know what to think. My gut feeling says let social media be.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ejolson 03/13/24 12:04:01 PM #62:	Corbenik posted... how does this go against the 1st amendment? just use YouTube its also american I posted the highlighted version since you need direction. It will also impact people's ability to market their businesses therefore going against people's pursuit of life (used in the all encompassing). --- Get up, Stand up, Stand up for your rights! <cite>ejolson posted [p:979345817] in Bye bye, T... [t:80720457]...</cite> <quote>Corbenik posted... </cite><quote>how does this go against the 1st amendment?just use YouTubeits also american</quote>I posted the highlighted version since you need direction. It will also impact people's ability to market their businesses therefore going against people's pursuit of life (used in the all encompassing). </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 03/13/24 12:04:40 PM #63:	DuuuDe14 posted... Just ban all social media. id prefer not to return to the times where everyone had their head in the sand because all you could easily get was local news --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:979345826] in Bye bye, T... [t:80720457]...</cite> <quote>DuuuDe14 posted... </cite><quote>Just ban all social media.</quote>id prefer not to return to the times where everyone had their head in the sand because all you could easily get was local news </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rosstin316 03/13/24 12:04:43 PM #64:	Full_Pokedex posted... So your solution is to restrict speech for everyone? This is why we can't have nice things. Yes because free speech didnt exist before social media. --- [This signature is viewable with an active GameFAQs Gold subscription.] <cite>Rosstin316 posted [p:979345828] in Bye bye, T... [t:80720457]...</cite> <quote>Full_Pokedex posted... </cite><quote>So your solution is to restrict speech for everyone? This is why we can't have nice things.</quote>Yes because free speech didnt exist before social media. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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rexcrk 03/13/24 12:06:18 PM #66:	Odd that they targeted TikTok specifically. Why not any other ones? --- Shplendid! <cite>rexcrk posted [p:979345844] in Bye bye, T... [t:80720457]...</cite> <quote>Odd that they targeted TikTok specifically. Why not any other ones? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 03/13/24 12:06:29 PM #67:	Am I the only person who would rather the Chinese government know my video browsing history than the US government? I mean like what is China gonna do with it? Im literally not a citizen, Im on the other side of the world. --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY <cite>Doe posted [p:979345847] in Bye bye, T... [t:80720457]...</cite> <quote>Am I the only person who would rather the Chinese government know my video browsing history than the US government?I mean like what is China gonna do with it? Im literally not a citizen, Im on the other side of the world. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rosstin316 03/13/24 12:07:15 PM #68:	Zeeak4444 posted... id prefer not to return to the times where everyone had their head in the sand because all you could easily get was local news Local news can be sued and/or have to publish a retraction if theyre proven factually incorrect. People can say whatever the fuck lies they want on social media as news consequence free. --- [This signature is viewable with an active GameFAQs Gold subscription.] <cite>Rosstin316 posted [p:979345860] in Bye bye, T... [t:80720457]...</cite> <quote>Zeeak4444 posted... </cite><quote>id prefer not to return to the times where everyone had their head in the sand because all you could easily get was local news</quote>Local news can be sued and/or have to publish a retraction if theyre proven factually incorrect. People can say whatever the fuck lies they want on social media as news consequence free. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corbenik 03/13/24 12:08:00 PM #69:	ejolson posted... I posted the highlighted version since you need direction. It will also impact people's ability to market their businesses therefore going against people's pursuit of life (used in the all encompassing). wont ppl just start using something else? --- The power it holds can bring either salvation or destruction at the whim of the user - Aura <cite>Corbenik posted [p:979345871] in Bye bye, T... [t:80720457]...</cite> <quote>ejolson posted... </cite><quote>I posted the highlighted version since you need direction. It will also impact people's ability to market their businesses therefore going against people's pursuit of life (used in the all encompassing).</quote>wont ppl just start using something else? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scorsese2002 03/13/24 12:08:04 PM #70:	Gen Z currently like https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/d/da79097a.jpg --- https://www.twitch.tv/dtake86 <cite>Scorsese2002 posted [p:979345872] in Bye bye, T... [t:80720457]...</cite> <quote>Gen Z currently likehttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/d/da79097a.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sry4PartyRockin 03/13/24 12:08:12 PM #71:	Full_Pokedex posted... So your solution is to restrict speech for everyone? This is why we can't have nice things. ByteDance, a foreign company based in Beijing and the Cayman Islands, does not enjoy the First Amendment as they are not based in the US. Class dismissed. <cite>Sry4PartyRockin posted [p:979345876] in Bye bye, T... [t:80720457]...</cite> <quote>Full_Pokedex posted... </cite><quote>So your solution is to restrict speech for everyone? This is why we can't have nice things.</quote>ByteDance, a foreign company based in Beijing and the Cayman Islands, does not enjoy the First Amendment as they are not based in the US.Class dismissed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GiftedACIII 03/13/24 12:08:39 PM #72:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] The subject here is TikTok. This would be a government ban on Tiktok so Tiktok is the one that would have their freedom of speech affected because of the country their company is located in. --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:979345885] in Bye bye, T... [t:80720457]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> The subject here is TikTok. This would be a government ban on Tiktok so Tiktok is the one that would have their freedom of speech affected because of the country their company is located in. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ejolson 03/13/24 12:09:31 PM #73:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Yes, in fact, it does, any law, the passage of this bill would constitute a law, it would abridge the free exercise of use of a communication tool, therefore falling under the context of speech... --- Get up, Stand up, Stand up for your rights! <cite>ejolson posted [p:979345900] in Bye bye, T... [t:80720457]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Yes, in fact, it does, any law, the passage of this bill would constitute a law, it would abridge the free exercise of use of a communication tool, therefore falling under the context of speech... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gu-gohan 03/13/24 12:09:46 PM #74:	Rosstin316 posted... I want to restrict the cancerous poison of absolute lies and evil propaganda presented as news that bots/trolls intentionally spread to cause anger, brainwashing and arguments that have infected this planet and destroyed society, yes. This. --- Like: great videogames, peaceful discussions, open-minded people Dislike: console wars, trolls, haters, review-bombing, negativity <cite>gu-gohan posted [p:979345901] in Bye bye, T... [t:80720457]...</cite> <quote>Rosstin316 posted... </cite><quote>I want to restrict the cancerous poison of absolute lies and evil propaganda presented as news that bots/trolls intentionally spread to cause anger, brainwashing and arguments that have infected this planet and destroyed society, yes.</quote>This. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Full_Pokedex 03/13/24 12:11:15 PM #75:	Sry4PartyRockin posted... ByteDance, a foreign company based in Beijing and the Cayman Islands, does not enjoy the First Amendment as they are not based in the US. Class dismissed. The guy I responded to wants all social media banned. It's a direct attack on free speech and freedom of expression. But I guess if it hurts Republicans people here are all for it. --- Donkey Kong is our friend! Please call often DK, don't be a stranger! From Toadsworth, Mario Party 7 Vote Larry Hogan for 2024. <cite>Full_Pokedex posted [p:979345927] in Bye bye, T... [t:80720457]...</cite> <quote>Sry4PartyRockin posted... </cite><quote>ByteDance, a foreign company based in Beijing and the Cayman Islands, does not enjoy the First Amendment as they are not based in the US.Class dismissed.</quote>The guy I responded to wants all social media banned. It's a direct attack on free speech and freedom of expression. But I guess if it hurts Republicans people here are all for it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FunWithAFryPan 03/13/24 12:12:30 PM #76:	Full_Pokedex posted... So you want to restrict free speech? Did free speech not exist before TikTok? --- He who strikes with meaning is killed by meaning. <cite>FunWithAFryPan posted [p:979345938] in Bye bye, T... [t:80720457]...</cite> <quote>Full_Pokedex posted... </cite><quote>So you want to restrict free speech?</quote>Did free speech not exist before TikTok? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GiftedACIII 03/13/24 12:13:27 PM #77:	Sry4PartyRockin posted... ByteDance, a foreign company based in Beijing and the Cayman Islands, does not enjoy the First Amendment as they are not based in the US. Class dismissed. The Constitution applies to everyone in the US including foreigners and "aliens". https://firstamendment.mtsu.edu/article/aliens. Any company operating in the US has those operations being based in US laws as it is with every country. --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:979345955] in Bye bye, T... [t:80720457]...</cite> <quote>Sry4PartyRockin posted... </cite><quote>ByteDance, a foreign company based in Beijing and the Cayman Islands, does not enjoy the First Amendment as they are not based in the US.Class dismissed.</quote>The Constitution applies to everyone in the US including foreigners and "aliens". https://firstamendment.mtsu.edu/article/aliens. Any company operating in the US has those operations being based in US laws as it is with every country. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gwynevere 03/13/24 12:14:51 PM #78:	Who would win? Legislation passed by a bunch of out of touch fossils, or a single VPN? Place your bets --- A hunter is a hunter...even in a dream [She/they] <cite>Gwynevere posted [p:979345990] in Bye bye, T... [t:80720457]...</cite> <quote>Who would win? Legislation passed by a bunch of out of touch fossils, or a single VPN?Place your bets </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Full_Pokedex 03/13/24 12:15:02 PM #79:	FunWithAFryPan posted... Did free speech not exist before TikTok? Life was possible without electricity too, but it sure makes it a lot easier. --- Donkey Kong is our friend! Please call often DK, don't be a stranger! From Toadsworth, Mario Party 7 Vote Larry Hogan for 2024. <cite>Full_Pokedex posted [p:979345995] in Bye bye, T... [t:80720457]...</cite> <quote>FunWithAFryPan posted... </cite><quote>Did free speech not exist before TikTok?</quote>Life was possible without electricity too, but it sure makes it a lot easier. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Voidgolem 03/13/24 12:17:47 PM #81:	Weirdly, the usual "censorship!" people are silent here. Anyhoo if "muh data" were a concern people wouldn't use smartphones period but nobody wants to have that conversation because they're so convenient --- Variable General Veeg, at your service <cite>Voidgolem posted [p:979346024] in Bye bye, T... [t:80720457]...</cite> <quote>Weirdly, the usual "censorship!" people are silent here.Anyhoo if "muh data" were a concern people wouldn't use smartphones period but nobody wants to have that conversation because they're so convenient </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FunWithAFryPan 03/13/24 12:18:28 PM #83:	Full_Pokedex posted... Life was possible without electricity too, but it sure makes it a lot easier. I dont know what that has to do with what i said. --- He who strikes with meaning is killed by meaning. <cite>FunWithAFryPan posted [p:979346033] in Bye bye, T... [t:80720457]...</cite> <quote>Full_Pokedex posted... </cite><quote>Life was possible without electricity too, but it sure makes it a lot easier.</quote>I dont know what that has to do with what i said. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pretzelcoatl 03/13/24 12:19:50 PM #85:	GiftedACIII posted... RIP any app created by people from foreign countries if the president is Republican. The president is Democratic and is vowing to sign the bill. It's both sides, hope this helps. <cite>pretzelcoatl posted [p:979346056] in Bye bye, T... [t:80720457]...</cite> <quote>GiftedACIII posted... </cite><quote>RIP any app created by people from foreign countries if the president is Republican.</quote>The president is Democratic and is vowing to sign the bill. It's both sides, hope this helps.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
emblem-man 03/13/24 12:20:08 PM #87:	This is forcing the sale of tik tok right? Not outright banning it --- http://avatar.xboxlive.com/avatar/emblem%20boy/avatar-body.png haters gonna hate <cite>emblem-man posted [p:979346061] in Bye bye, T... [t:80720457]...</cite> <quote>This is forcing the sale of tik tok right? Not outright banning it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Firudawg 03/13/24 12:20:08 PM #86:	Gwynevere posted... Who would win? Legislation passed by a bunch of out of touch fossils, or a single VPN? Place your bets Implying zoomers know how to use technology <cite>Firudawg posted [p:979346060] in Bye bye, T... [t:80720457]...</cite> <quote>Gwynevere posted... </cite><quote>Who would win? Legislation passed by a bunch of out of touch fossils, or a single VPN?Place your bets</quote>Implying zoomers know how to use technology </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
josiskrazy 03/13/24 12:20:35 PM #88:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] They want to be able to sell our info to China, not just have China take it for free!! FREE!! Not in our dystopian authoritarian capitalist society! --- 09/18/2023 - Wife is in remission!! F Cancer!! https://www.goteamdani.com <cite>josiskrazy posted [p:979346069] in Bye bye, T... [t:80720457]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> They want to be able to sell our info to China, not just have China take it for free!! FREE!! Not in our dystopian authoritarian capitalist society! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 03/13/24 12:21:01 PM #89:	China will complain but TikTok is also banned in their country. They have an internal variant citizens use but the international app is banned entirely. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:979346074] in Bye bye, T... [t:80720457]...</cite> <quote>China will complain but TikTok is also banned in their country. They have an internal variant citizens use but the international app is banned entirely. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Full_Pokedex 03/13/24 12:21:22 PM #90:	FunWithAFryPan posted... I dont know what that has to do with what i said. Yes freedom of speech existed before social media but its existence makes the spread of positive speech much easier. The fact negative speech can be spread too is just an unfortunate side effect. As a whole social media is a net positive for society. --- Donkey Kong is our friend! Please call often DK, don't be a stranger! From Toadsworth, Mario Party 7 Vote Larry Hogan for 2024. <cite>Full_Pokedex posted [p:979346080] in Bye bye, T... [t:80720457]...</cite> <quote>FunWithAFryPan posted... </cite><quote>I dont know what that has to do with what i said.</quote>Yes freedom of speech existed before social media but its existence makes the spread of positive speech much easier. The fact negative speech can be spread too is just an unfortunate side effect. As a whole social media is a net positive for society. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smackems 03/13/24 12:21:50 PM #91:	DuuuDe14 posted... Just ban all social media. --- Common sense says it may not taste good, but it'll make a turd. <cite>Smackems posted [p:979346089] in Bye bye, T... [t:80720457]...</cite> <quote>DuuuDe14 posted... </cite><quote>Just ban all social media.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GiftedACIII 03/13/24 12:22:39 PM #92:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] It got pretty weird since Duncan was taking Duude's post seriously even though I'm pretty sure Duude was being facetious to show how biased the bill was but if we're taking those posts at face value a ban on all social media would certainly restrict free speech a lot too. --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:979346100] in Bye bye, T... [t:80720457]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> It got pretty weird since Duncan was taking Duude's post seriously even though I'm pretty sure Duude was being facetious to show how biased the bill was but if we're taking those posts at face value a ban on all social media would certainly restrict free speech a lot too. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14 03/13/24 12:22:46 PM #93:	Rosstin316 posted... I want to restrict the cancerous poison of absolute lies and evil propaganda presented as news that bots/trolls intentionally spread to cause anger, brainwashing and arguments that have infected this planet and destroyed society, yes. Instead you are removing people's ability to present news and information that could otherwise be squashed. You are instead now funneling everyone's news to narrow avenues that don't always have the best interest in mind. Do you think something like George Floyd would have flown if there was no social media around and we only had to rely on news organizations? "Just ban Fox News/conservative news too!" I hear you already screaming. --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:979346105] in Bye bye, T... [t:80720457]...</cite> <quote>Rosstin316 posted... </cite><quote>I want to restrict the cancerous poison of absolute lies and evil propaganda presented as news that bots/trolls intentionally spread to cause anger, brainwashing and arguments that have infected this planet and destroyed society, yes.</quote>Instead you are removing people's ability to present news and information that could otherwise be squashed. You are instead now funneling everyone's news to narrow avenues that don't always have the best interest in mind. Do you think something like George Floyd would have flown if there was no social media around and we only had to rely on news organizations? "Just ban Fox News/conservative news too!" I hear you already screaming. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeonOPPAl 03/13/24 12:23:11 PM #94:	Gwynevere posted... Who would win? Legislation passed by a bunch of out of touch fossils, or a single VPN? Place your bets Gen Z is too tech illiterate to know how to use that LOL --- https://imgur.com/aMaI3hj https://imgur.com/7PsdJNc https://imgur.com/eK8vZVn https://imgur.com/u2HR4nG https://imgur.com/nQGM5cZ <cite>NeonOPPAl posted [p:979346113] in Bye bye, T... [t:80720457]...</cite> <quote>Gwynevere posted... </cite><quote>Who would win? Legislation passed by a bunch of out of touch fossils, or a single VPN?Place your bets</quote>Gen Z is too tech illiterate to know how to use that LOL </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Full_Pokedex 03/13/24 12:23:33 PM #95:	The people who want to ban social media as a whole are why we can't have nice things in this society. They don't like it so it should be taken from everyone. --- Donkey Kong is our friend! Please call often DK, don't be a stranger! From Toadsworth, Mario Party 7 Vote Larry Hogan for 2024. <cite>Full_Pokedex posted [p:979346118] in Bye bye, T... [t:80720457]...</cite> <quote>The people who want to ban social media as a whole are why we can't have nice things in this society. They don't like it so it should be taken from everyone. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FunWithAFryPan 03/13/24 12:24:37 PM #97:	Full_Pokedex posted... Yes freedom of speech existed before social media but its existence makes the spread of positive speech much easier. The fact negative speech can be spread too is just an unfortunate side effect. As a whole social media is a net positive for society. Thatsdebatable, but it also has nothing to do with my point. The communication platform DikDok doesnt exist, so is my freedom of speech abridged because I cant express myself on DikDok? --- He who strikes with meaning is killed by meaning. <cite>FunWithAFryPan posted [p:979346134] in Bye bye, T... [t:80720457]...</cite> <quote>Full_Pokedex posted... </cite><quote>Yes freedom of speech existed before social media but its existence makes the spread of positive speech much easier. The fact negative speech can be spread too is just an unfortunate side effect. As a whole social media is a net positive for society.</quote>Thatsdebatable, but it also has nothing to do with my point. The communication platform DikDok doesnt exist, so is my freedom of speech abridged because I cant express myself on DikDok? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GiftedACIII 03/13/24 12:25:12 PM #98:	pretzelcoatl posted... The president is Democratic and is vowing to sign the bill. It's both sides, hope this helps. He's vowing to sign the bill, not that he'll order TikTok to be banned. And he can always renege on it the way Republican politicians do. That said, my post was more about how Republican presidents are a lot more likely to consider a wider variety of countries their "adversaries". --- </topic> <cite>GiftedACIII posted [p:979346146] in Bye bye, T... [t:80720457]...</cite> <quote>pretzelcoatl posted... </cite><quote>The president is Democratic and is vowing to sign the bill. It's both sides, hope this helps.</quote>He's vowing to sign the bill, not that he'll order TikTok to be banned. And he can always renege on it the way Republican politicians do. That said, my post was more about how Republican presidents are a lot more likely to consider a wider variety of countries their "adversaries". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zwijn 03/13/24 12:25:25 PM #99:	Whats with the shitting on gen z? Theyre really not that different from millennials and its not like millennials were tech gods, this online bubble gives a false image. Most of our generation dont know much about computers either and they sure as hell dont know what the fuck a VPN is. <cite>Zwijn posted [p:979346153] in Bye bye, T... [t:80720457]...</cite> <quote>Whats with the shitting on gen z? Theyre really not that different from millennials and its not like millennials were tech gods, this online bubble gives a false image. Most of our generation dont know much about computers either and they sure as hell dont know what the fuck a VPN is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CruelBuffalo 03/13/24 12:26:05 PM #100:	Horith posted... Something to keep in mind is that, from my understanding at least, this would ban the app if the company operations in the US wasnt sold to a US buyer. So TikTok could still be a thing if someone were willing to buy it up (and the owner wanted to sell it), which seems likely given that its still a powerful social media tool. But make no mistake, none of this actually gives a shit about our privacy. If Congress cared about that TikTok would be a drop in the bucket compared to the privacy violations businesses make every single day in this country. This is just xenophobia and racism wrapped up to look like privacy protection. This along with idiots being like LOL HAHA DANCERS AND INFLUENCERS. If they moved to ban a site like Reddit you would have neckbeards screaching. If I understand correctly this would give the government to ban any website or app they dont like. Real way to stick it to china. Become just like them with the great firewall. <cite>CruelBuffalo posted [p:979346164] in Bye bye, T... [t:80720457]...</cite> <quote>Horith posted...</cite><quote>Something to keep in mind is that, from my understanding at least, this would ban the app if the company operations in the US wasnt sold to a US buyer. So TikTok could still be a thing if someone were willing to buy it up (and the owner wanted to sell it), which seems likely given that its still a powerful social media tool. But make no mistake, none of this actually gives a shit about our privacy. If Congress cared about that TikTok would be a drop in the bucket compared to the privacy violations businesses make every single day in this country. This is just xenophobia and racism wrapped up to look like privacy protection. </quote>This along with idiots being like LOL HAHA DANCERS AND INFLUENCERS. If they moved to ban a site like Reddit you would have neckbeards screaching. If I understand correctly this would give the government to ban any website or app they dont like. Real way to stick it to china. Become just like them with the great firewall.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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