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Jagr_68 03/13/24 6:02:48 PM #51:	The moment the youth group leaders said Pokemon was satanic lol. --- New York Rangers [2004-2008] https://media.giphy.com/media/WvQHBYW0q4TuxdAg61/giphy.gif https://psnprofiles.com/Jaromiroquai68 <cite>Jagr_68 posted [p:979351917] in At what ag... [t:80719596]...</cite> <quote>The moment the youth group leaders said Pokemon was satanic lol. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kradek 03/13/24 6:06:48 PM #52:	When I was a kid my family was lazy-theist (church on Sunday and Catholic holidays, but no greater worship or praying outside of that in the household) and in my own personal life I never felt like there was some deity who loved me/gave them a reason to revere/worship them. As I got older and started to learn the logical arguments against it, it just solidified my non-belief. I guess I'll say that in my mid teenage years I was desperately pleading in prayer, hoping that I was wrong, for some sort of relief of this pain I've had on a daily basis since middle school, obviously no answer was given and no pain was relieved. The one thing I thank it for as is a 5 & 6 year old "gay lord" was my go-to insult (it was the 90s, calling people gay was a common insult, especially among stupid kids) and I learned that it might violate the commandment of "taking the lord's name in vain", which seemed like an easy commandment to correct myself on. I actually so committed to it that I don't use any common phrases based off religion that many other atheists/anti-theists use "oh my god", "Jesus Christ/Christ" (as an expression of exasperation) "holy shit", "god damnit", etc. My vocabulary naturally evolved without ever incorporating that into my typical vernacular. Now it's weird to me as an anti-theist when I see atheists/anti-theists use those phrases seemingly without thinking about it as they're products of their environment and seem to just accept it. It's especially ironic that I follow that commandment as an anti-theist more ardently than most theists. --- My metal band, Ivory King, has 2 songs out now - allmylinks.com/ivorykingtx (all of our links there so you can choose which one you'd prefer to use) <cite>Kradek posted [p:979351975] in At what ag... [t:80719596]...</cite> <quote>When I was a kid my family was lazy-theist (church on Sunday and Catholic holidays, but no greater worship or praying outside of that in the household) and in my own personal life I never felt like there was some deity who loved me/gave them a reason to revere/worship them. As I got older and started to learn the logical arguments against it, it just solidified my non-belief. I guess I'll say that in my mid teenage years I was desperately pleading in prayer, hoping that I was wrong, for some sort of relief of this pain I've had on a daily basis since middle school, obviously no answer was given and no pain was relieved. The one thing I thank it for as is a 5 & 6 year old "gay lord" was my go-to insult (it was the 90s, calling people gay was a common insult, especially among stupid kids) and I learned that it might violate the commandment of "taking the lord's name in vain", which seemed like an easy commandment to correct myself on. I actually so committed to it that I don't use any common phrases based off religion that many other atheists/anti-theists use "oh my god", "Jesus Christ/Christ" (as an expression of exasperation) "holy shit", "god damnit", etc. My vocabulary naturally evolved without ever incorporating that into my typical vernacular. Now it's weird to me as an anti-theist when I see atheists/anti-theists use those phrases seemingly without thinking about it as they're products of their environment and seem to just accept it.It's especially ironic that I follow that commandment as an anti-theist more ardently than most theists. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkDoc 03/13/24 6:08:52 PM #53:	Solar_Crimson posted... Still pretend that I follow it to keep the peace. You really need to stop this. Incurso91 posted... Can't say I was ever religious, even though mom forced me up through Confirmation during elementary and middle school. I'm sorry you were abused in this way. Sub_Tank posted... I'm still somewhat skeptical when it comes to the institution of religion, but I think personal belief in a higher power is a net positive for a lot of people. And a net negative for billions of others. wackyteen posted... Then sprinkle in those who use religion to wield power, and it becomes obvious why said God(s) haven't disappeared. They will do. Just like Mars and Jupiter. <cite>DarkDoc posted [p:979351998] in At what ag... [t:80719596]...</cite> <quote>Solar_Crimson posted...</cite><quote>Still pretend that I follow it to keep the peace.</quote>You really need to stop this.Incurso91 posted...</cite><quote>Can't say I was ever religious, even though mom forced me up through Confirmation during elementary and middle school.</quote>I'm sorry you were abused in this way.Sub_Tank posted...</cite><quote>I'm still somewhat skeptical when it comes to the institution of religion, but I think personal belief in a higher power is a net positive for a lot of people.</quote>And a net negative for billions of others.wackyteen posted...</cite><quote> Then sprinkle in those who use religion to wield power, and it becomes obvious why said God(s) haven't disappeared.</quote>They will do. Just like Mars and Jupiter.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
projectpat72988 03/13/24 6:17:10 PM #54:	Not sure. Too many weird coincidences seem to happen in my life. I wouldn't be surprised if some jerkoff controls everything somewhere. I mean, most people seem conditioned to not even "think" about how absolutely weird the concept of our existence and outer space actually is. I come to the realization there isn't a single thing that would surprise me at this point. Oh gods real? Ok He's real but totally indifferent and we can TOTALLY trust those texts haven't been completely turned useless by super honest humans. We are in an alien simulation to see if we can fix some weird problem they're facing? ok. Or an answer that a human brain simply could not even process. I tend to lean towards that one. <cite>projectpat72988 posted [p:979352129] in At what ag... [t:80719596]...</cite> <quote>Not sure. Too many weird coincidences seem to happen in my life. I wouldn't be surprised if some jerkoff controls everything somewhere. I mean, most people seem conditioned to not even "think" about how absolutely weird the concept of our existence and outer space actually is. I come to the realization there isn't a single thing that would surprise me at this point. Oh gods real? OkHe's real but totally indifferent and we can TOTALLY trust those texts haven't been completely turned useless by super honest humans.We are in an alien simulation to see if we can fix some weird problem they're facing? ok.Or an answer that a human brain simply could not even process. I tend to lean towards that one.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 03/13/24 6:25:51 PM #55:	Never was religious <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:979352256] in At what ag... [t:80719596]...</cite> <quote>Never was religious</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kurdt032 03/13/24 6:28:52 PM #56:	I was forsaken by Jesus and turned against him. --- Darren Lacey is granny bashing scum <cite>kurdt032 posted [p:979352303] in At what ag... [t:80719596]...</cite> <quote>I was forsaken by Jesus and turned against him. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
vycebrand2 03/13/24 11:25:53 PM #57:	projectpat72988 posted... Not sure. Too many weird coincidences seem to happen in my life. I wouldn't be surprised if some jerkoff controls everything somewhere. My experience with my friend this was discussed. Her life was missed meetings with my partner. Early in her life she was arrested by his uncle who was where it where she lived for while. Her sister was a neighbor of mine when I was very little. I have tried to pinpoint if my family knew them even as far back as the early 70's. She then lived a road over from my partner when he had his first farm. He had sold and moved when had she moved in. They both had a mutural friend when they both lived there. Sometime in the 80's they both moved to the same town. Then I came along. We started a business and the intital investers she worked for one of them. That investor was a good friend of both but they never actually met. This is where it gets weird I remember her vaugly. Just wasn't sure when. Years later we all meet finally. She was a true friend to both of us. Anyway she said that all this was God moving the pieces for you(me) to be here now to help me. I said all that is cool but it's mostly conendience. Post note: the arrest from his uncle is hilariously funny. She was dating this dude. Another girl also wanted to date him. The other girl picked a fight with my friend(because reasons). My friend beat her bloody. In front of the Judge the Judge asks her did you do this? She says dam right I did. He looks at the pictures then at her (she's no bigger than a minute). He says Good job. He then says you are free to go. That always makes me smile --- I was born when she kissed me. I died when she left me. I lived a few weeks while she loved me- <cite>vycebrand2 posted [p:979357325] in At what ag... [t:80719596]...</cite> <quote>projectpat72988 posted... </cite><quote>Not sure. Too many weird coincidences seem to happen in my life. I wouldn't be surprised if some jerkoff controls everything somewhere. </quote>My experience with my friend this was discussed. Her life was missed meetings with my partner. Early in her life she was arrested by his uncle who was where it where she lived for while. Her sister was a neighbor of mine when I was very little. I have tried to pinpoint if my family knew them even as far back as the early 70's. She then lived a road over from my partner when he had his first farm. He had sold and moved when had she moved in. They both had a mutural friend when they both lived there. Sometime in the 80's they both moved to the same town. Then I came along. We started a business and the intital investers she worked for one of them. That investor was a good friend of both but they never actually met. This is where it gets weird I remember her vaugly. Just wasn't sure when. Years later we all meet finally. She was a true friend to both of us. Anyway she said that all this was God moving the pieces for you(me) to be here now to help me. I said all that is cool but it's mostly conendience. Post note: the arrest from his uncle is hilariously funny. She was dating this dude. Another girl also wanted to date him. The other girl picked a fight with my friend(because reasons). My friend beat her bloody. In front of the Judge the Judge asks her did you do this? She says dam right I did. He looks at the pictures then at her (she's no bigger than a minute). He says Good job. He then says you are free to go. That always makes me smile </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssjevot 03/13/24 11:35:42 PM #58:	My parents sent us to this after school Catholic thing. That made me stop believing pretty fast. I was definitely atheist by the time middle school hit. I found the more they taught us stuff the less sense it made. --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss <cite>ssjevot posted [p:979357448] in At what ag... [t:80719596]...</cite> <quote>My parents sent us to this after school Catholic thing. That made me stop believing pretty fast. I was definitely atheist by the time middle school hit. I found the more they taught us stuff the less sense it made. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IMNOTRAGED 03/13/24 11:47:52 PM #59:	I was never religious but kinda halfway accepted the cultural belief in god if that makes any sense. The two main things that started me on the path to atheism were reading a children's bible when I was like, 10, and it being obvious BS and becoming aware of the existence of other religions over the next couple of years; basically I formed a reverse Pascal's wager --- DEBO ERA "Be ruthless with systems; be kind to people." <cite>IMNOTRAGED posted [p:979357590] in At what ag... [t:80719596]...</cite> <quote>I was never religious but kinda halfway accepted the cultural belief in god if that makes any sense. The two main things that started me on the path to atheism were reading a children's bible when I was like, 10, and it being obvious BS and becoming aware of the existence of other religions over the next couple of years; basically I formed a reverse Pascal's wager </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Villain_S_Fiend 03/13/24 11:49:44 PM #60:	I gave it an honest go early on, probably out of a feeling of obligation to my family, but I just couldn't buy into it. --- The food here is terrible. My steak was so tough it attacked my coffee and the coffee was too weak to defend itself. <cite>Villain_S_Fiend posted [p:979357627] in At what ag... [t:80719596]...</cite> <quote>I gave it an honest go early on, probably out of a feeling of obligation to my family, but I just couldn't buy into it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
haloiscoolisbak 03/13/24 11:58:10 PM #61:	Age 9 The class clown was demonstrating the silliness of god to me, he said something like "if God is everywhere then can he see this?" And like waved to an empty corner of the room saying "hi God how are you?" And everyone in the class laughed and despite it hardly being overwhelming evidence I was basically atheist ever since. --- Started from the bottom now we here <cite>haloiscoolisbak posted [p:979357730] in At what ag... [t:80719596]...</cite> <quote>Age 9The class clown was demonstrating the silliness of god to me, he said something like "if God is everywhere then can he see this?" And like waved to an empty corner of the room saying "hi God how are you?" And everyone in the class laughed and despite it hardly being overwhelming evidence I was basically atheist ever since. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Toonstrack 03/14/24 1:19:24 AM #62:	wackyteen posted... If death wasn't inevitable, we'd still suffer from it as it's in our nature. If it wasn't inevitable it wouldn't be in our nature. --- This post didn't exist to you until you read it. You willed it into existence in your psyche by choosing to observe it. Thats the power you have. Use it well. <cite>Toonstrack posted [p:979358570] in At what ag... [t:80719596]...</cite> <quote>wackyteen posted... </cite><quote>If death wasn't inevitable, we'd still suffer from it as it's in our nature.</quote>If it wasn't inevitable it wouldn't be in our nature. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
projectpat72988 03/14/24 1:50:58 AM #63:	vycebrand2 posted... My experience with my friend this was discussed. Her life was missed meetings with my partner. Early in her life she was arrested by his uncle who was where it where she lived for while. Her sister was a neighbor of mine when I was very little. I have tried to pinpoint if my family knew them even as far back as the early 70's. She then lived a road over from my partner when he had his first farm. He had sold and moved when had she moved in. They both had a mutural friend when they both lived there. Sometime in the 80's they both moved to the same town. Then I came along. We started a business and the intital investers she worked for one of them. That investor was a good friend of both but they never actually met. This is where it gets weird I remember her vaugly. Just wasn't sure when. Years later we all meet finally. She was a true friend to both of us. Anyway she said that all this was God moving the pieces for you(me) to be here now to help me. I said all that is cool but it's mostly conendience. Post note: the arrest from his uncle is hilariously funny. She was dating this dude. Another girl also wanted to date him. The other girl picked a fight with my friend(because reasons). My friend beat her bloody. In front of the Judge the Judge asks her did you do this? She says dam right I did. He looks at the pictures then at her (she's no bigger than a minute). He says Good job. He then says you are free to go. That always makes me smile I see it like the universe itself mocking me. It happens a lot too. I will be talking about it and then SOMETHING will happen that makes me say...see, again. Very dumb little coincidences. It's just weird how often something you've discussed or thought of recently ends up appearing in the very near future. I've had a few things feel like the story mentioned. But never positive always negative. I realized a whole bunch of stuff. <cite>projectpat72988 posted [p:979358865] in At what ag... [t:80719596]...</cite> <quote>vycebrand2 posted... </cite><quote>My experience with my friend this was discussed. Her life was missed meetings with my partner. Early in her life she was arrested by his uncle who was where it where she lived for while. Her sister was a neighbor of mine when I was very little. I have tried to pinpoint if my family knew them even as far back as the early 70's. She then lived a road over from my partner when he had his first farm. He had sold and moved when had she moved in. They both had a mutural friend when they both lived there. Sometime in the 80's they both moved to the same town. Then I came along. We started a business and the intital investers she worked for one of them. That investor was a good friend of both but they never actually met. This is where it gets weird I remember her vaugly. Just wasn't sure when. Years later we all meet finally. She was a true friend to both of us. Anyway she said that all this was God moving the pieces for you(me) to be here now to help me. I said all that is cool but it's mostly conendience. Post note: the arrest from his uncle is hilariously funny. She was dating this dude. Another girl also wanted to date him. The other girl picked a fight with my friend(because reasons). My friend beat her bloody. In front of the Judge the Judge asks her did you do this? She says dam right I did. He looks at the pictures then at her (she's no bigger than a minute). He says Good job. He then says you are free to go. That always makes me smile</quote>I see it like the universe itself mocking me. It happens a lot too. I will be talking about it and then SOMETHING will happen that makes me say...see, again. Very dumb little coincidences. It's just weird how often something you've discussed or thought of recently ends up appearing in the very near future. I've had a few things feel like the story mentioned. But never positive always negative. I realized a whole bunch of stuff. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 03/14/24 1:54:47 AM #64:	Mid or late 30s. I was born catholic. Then in high school I got into neo paganism. Was with that for a while but eventually I found myself not really feeling it anymore. One day I suddenly realized, I'm pretty sure I'm kind of an athiest now. Or at least agnostic <cite>Zikten posted [p:979358889] in At what ag... [t:80719596]...</cite> <quote>Mid or late 30s. I was born catholic. Then in high school I got into neo paganism. Was with that for a while but eventually I found myself not really feeling it anymore. One day I suddenly realized, I'm pretty sure I'm kind of an athiest now. Or at least agnostic </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
vycebrand2 03/14/24 3:40:07 AM #65:	projectpat72988 posted... I see it like the universe itself mocking me. It happens a lot too. I will be talking about it and then SOMETHING will happen that makes me say...see, again. Very dumb little coincidences. It's just weird how often something you've discussed or thought of recently ends up appearing in the very near future. I've had a few things feel like the story mentioned. But never positive always negative. I realized a whole bunch of stuff. I understand. For me I wasn't very devout. I lead a good life though. My friends thought was you are a good person even though you have slipped away from him. He knows that. He put you here because that's where you were needed. There's these line of events that have stretched 48 years so when someone you might have never met otherwise would help you need? It kinda ballooned my head some. I understood a lot of its faith. God knew your whole life before you ever lived it? Was there ever free will for the both of us. The next thought was then He's pretty cruel Since then I've searched for some meaning. Closest I came explaining it was soul contracts. It's means for example you have a Group which at some point are connected. That person you meet that seems like you met them before but havent. Its because they are in your group. So for example I said I'll help people and pick a few out of the group. I know of one other excluding my friend. I met randomly some woman in the course of business. Years later down the road meet again. Became acquainted and went about our way. Almost a decade later we meet again this time its a partnership. We agree to work together. We do but I saw some cracks. Former Addict. My response? I Try to help. She almost has it, but the drugs hold her back. I sadly had to move on. I lost track. I think if its God directing it He's saying you are my tool. I'm telling him next time I'm retired. --- I was born when she kissed me. I died when she left me. I lived a few weeks while she loved me- <cite>vycebrand2 posted [p:979359627] in At what ag... [t:80719596]...</cite> <quote>projectpat72988 posted... </cite><quote>I see it like the universe itself mocking me. It happens a lot too. I will be talking about it and then SOMETHING will happen that makes me say...see, again. Very dumb little coincidences. It's just weird how often something you've discussed or thought of recently ends up appearing in the very near future. I've had a few things feel like the story mentioned. But never positive always negative. I realized a whole bunch of stuff.</quote>I understand. For me I wasn't very devout. I lead a good life though. My friends thought was you are a good person even though you have slipped away from him. He knows that. He put you here because that's where you were needed. There's these line of events that have stretched 48 years so when someone you might have never met otherwise would help you need? It kinda ballooned my head some. I understood a lot of its faith. God knew your whole life before you ever lived it? Was there ever free will for the both of us. The next thought was then He's pretty cruelSince then I've searched for some meaning. Closest I came explaining it was soul contracts. It's means for example you have a Group which at some point are connected. That person you meet that seems like you met them before but havent. Its because they are in your group. So for example I said I'll help people and pick a few out of the group. I know of one other excluding my friend. I met randomly some woman in the course of business. Years later down the road meet again. Became acquainted and went about our way. Almost a decade later we meet again this time its a partnership. We agree to work together. We do but I saw some cracks. Former Addict. My response? I Try to help. She almost has it, but the drugs hold her back. I sadly had to move on. I lost track. I think if its God directing it He's saying you are my tool. I'm telling him next time I'm retired. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rotterdammerung 03/14/24 3:48:18 AM #66:	Was never religious, but gave up that vague spiritualism hippy adjacent nonsense when my dad died --- Evil begins when you begin to treat people as things. GNU STP They/them <cite>Rotterdammerung posted [p:979359671] in At what ag... [t:80719596]...</cite> <quote>Was never religious, but gave up that vague spiritualism hippy adjacent nonsense when my dad died </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
projectpat72988 03/14/24 4:56:50 AM #67:	vycebrand2 posted... I understand. For me I wasn't very devout. I lead a good life though. My friends thought was you are a good person even though you have slipped away from him. He knows that. He put you here because that's where you were needed. There's these line of events that have stretched 48 years so when someone you might have never met otherwise would help you need? It kinda ballooned my head some. I understood a lot of its faith. God knew your whole life before you ever lived it? Was there ever free will for the both of us. The next thought was then He's pretty cruel Since then I've searched for some meaning. Closest I came explaining it was soul contracts. It's means for example you have a Group which at some point are connected. That person you meet that seems like you met them before but havent. Its because they are in your group. So for example I said I'll help people and pick a few out of the group. I know of one other excluding my friend. I met randomly some woman in the course of business. Years later down the road meet again. Became acquainted and went about our way. Almost a decade later we meet again this time its a partnership. We agree to work together. We do but I saw some cracks. Former Addict. My response? I Try to help. She almost has it, but the drugs hold her back. I sadly had to move on. I lost track. I think if its God directing it He's saying you are my tool. I'm telling him next time I'm retired. There is one of the huge glaring issues with god. How could there possibly be an all-knowing god while at the same time humans still possess free will? If some entity knew every single action we will ever take down to the tiniest of detail. If god knew 100,000 or 100 trillion years ago I would be typing this right now. Am I really deciding to? Or is he ya know...not all knowing. Or even there at all. Even the idea of heaven doesn't appeal to me really. I'd like to be myself in "paradise". Not some drone stuck in a strange date rapey thing that it comes across as where we are so happy regardless of whats happened. Example, how could you possibly be in paradise if someone you love isn't and you died under some crazy circumstances that put huge stress on them? That doesn't make sense. Only idea I ever came up with is that everyone technically enters at the same time. We die and its like 1 second went by for the people who died years earlier. I dunno. Yeah I've heard theories like yours. One I often wonder about is that we live multiple times and once you die you remember it all. Then for some reason we can't know while living a life we need to keep living other lives for some higher purpose. Makes no sense but at the same time makes more sense to me than the going theories. Your idea would make sense to me. But only for one person I've known. I've only had people enter my life out of completely random chance for negative reasons. Times where it would've been so incredibly easy for It to have never happened at all. The only time it was for a positive reason was so I could mess it up. Only to realize that later. FFS. Now I am trying to find them. Strange world. <cite>projectpat72988 posted [p:979359991] in At what ag... [t:80719596]...</cite> <quote>vycebrand2 posted... </cite><quote>I understand. For me I wasn't very devout. I lead a good life though. My friends thought was you are a good person even though you have slipped away from him. He knows that. He put you here because that's where you were needed. There's these line of events that have stretched 48 years so when someone you might have never met otherwise would help you need? It kinda ballooned my head some. I understood a lot of its faith. God knew your whole life before you ever lived it? Was there ever free will for the both of us. The next thought was then He's pretty cruelSince then I've searched for some meaning. Closest I came explaining it was soul contracts. It's means for example you have a Group which at some point are connected. That person you meet that seems like you met them before but havent. Its because they are in your group. So for example I said I'll help people and pick a few out of the group. I know of one other excluding my friend. I met randomly some woman in the course of business. Years later down the road meet again. Became acquainted and went about our way. Almost a decade later we meet again this time its a partnership. We agree to work together. We do but I saw some cracks. Former Addict. My response? I Try to help. She almost has it, but the drugs hold her back. I sadly had to move on. I lost track. I think if its God directing it He's saying you are my tool. I'm telling him next time I'm retired.</quote>There is one of the huge glaring issues with god. How could there possibly be an all-knowing god while at the same time humans still possess free will? If some entity knew every single action we will ever take down to the tiniest of detail. If god knew 100,000 or 100 trillion years ago I would be typing this right now. Am I really deciding to? Or is he ya know...not all knowing. Or even there at all.Even the idea of heaven doesn't appeal to me really. I'd like to be myself in "paradise". Not some drone stuck in a strange date rapey thing that it comes across as where we are so happy regardless of whats happened. Example, how could you possibly be in paradise if someone you love isn't and you died under some crazy circumstances that put huge stress on them? That doesn't make sense. Only idea I ever came up with is that everyone technically enters at the same time. We die and its like 1 second went by for the people who died years earlier. I dunno.Yeah I've heard theories like yours. One I often wonder about is that we live multiple times and once you die you remember it all. Then for some reason we can't know while living a life we need to keep living other lives for some higher purpose. Makes no sense but at the same time makes more sense to me than the going theories. Your idea would make sense to me. But only for one person I've known. I've only had people enter my life out of completely random chance for negative reasons. Times where it would've been so incredibly easy for It to have never happened at all. The only time it was for a positive reason was so I could mess it up. Only to realize that later. FFS. Now I am trying to find them. Strange world.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TinyTim01 03/14/24 4:58:13 AM #68:	14 I was the only atheist/agnostic in my religious family. 7 kids and 2 parents. It was a big deal cause we were a family that went to church alot back in the day. Even changed to 7th day Adventist for a while to baptist for awhile, then to Non-denominational. <cite>TinyTim01 posted [p:979359998] in At what ag... [t:80719596]...</cite> <quote>14I was the only atheist/agnostic in my religious family. 7 kids and 2 parents.It was a big deal cause we were a family that went to church alot back in the day. Even changed to 7th day Adventist for a while to baptist for awhile, then to Non-denominational.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZevLoveDOOM 03/14/24 4:59:06 AM #69:	i dont think i ever gave up: i just didnt care for it at all... lol gladly i didnt live in one of those households where you have your parents's beliefs shoved down your throat. <cite>ZevLoveDOOM posted [p:979360001] in At what ag... [t:80719596]...</cite> <quote>i dont think i ever gave up: i just didnt care for it at all... lolgladly i didnt live in one of those households where you have your parents's beliefs shoved down your throat.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YugiNoob 03/14/24 5:33:38 AM #70:	My mom said that when I was 18 I could decide for myself whether or not I wanted to keep going to church on Sundays, and that's when I stopped. Church wasn't a bad experience for me, but I'm just not a morning person and one extra day a week to sleep in was nice :3 But now that I have a hyper-religious Trumper of a coworker, I'm glad my parents took me to a normal church. She thinks stuff like being gay is a choice and evil, Israel can do no wrong because they're God's people, and stuff like fortune tellers, psychics, and magicians (including birthday party "is this your card?" magicians) are Satanic and sold their soul for their "powers". I tried explaining how magic tricks and shit work, but she's incredibly stupid... I never really knew anyone who was so twisted up by religion before, and assumed it was just standard media hype. But seeing it first hand is heartbreaking, because she's under a lot of stress, and it's mostly due to her believing ridiculous stuff from the Bible, Rumble, or Fox. She'll believe use some crazy mental gymnastics to line up the Bible with whatever conspiracy theories they feed her and that makes her overly paranoid --- ( ^_^)/\(^_^ ) Maya High-Five! <cite>YugiNoob posted [p:979360200] in At what ag... [t:80719596]...</cite> <quote>My mom said that when I was 18 I could decide for myself whether or not I wanted to keep going to church on Sundays, and that's when I stopped. Church wasn't a bad experience for me, but I'm just not a morning person and one extra day a week to sleep in was nice :3 But now that I have a hyper-religious Trumper of a coworker, I'm glad my parents took me to a normal church. She thinks stuff like being gay is a choice and evil, Israel can do no wrong because they're God's people, and stuff like fortune tellers, psychics, and magicians (including birthday party "is this your card?" magicians) are Satanic and sold their soul for their "powers". I tried explaining how magic tricks and shit work, but she's incredibly stupid...I never really knew anyone who was so twisted up by religion before, and assumed it was just standard media hype. But seeing it first hand is heartbreaking, because she's under a lot of stress, and it's mostly due to her believing ridiculous stuff from the Bible, Rumble, or Fox. She'll believe use some crazy mental gymnastics to line up the Bible with whatever conspiracy theories they feed her and that makes her overly paranoid </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TyVulpine 03/14/24 5:43:04 AM #71:	In my teens, after the Washington Post ran an article about whether any god exists and directly helps, exists and indirectly helps, exists but doesn't bother to help, or doesn't exist at all. That and thinking about how, out of 4,000+ religions, not one has ever been proven beyond a reasonable doubt to be the "right" one or that any god/goddess has ever been proven to even exist. --- Insert some witty line here <cite>TyVulpine posted [p:979360259] in At what ag... [t:80719596]...</cite> <quote>In my teens, after the Washington Post ran an article about whether any god exists and directly helps, exists and indirectly helps, exists but doesn't bother to help, or doesn't exist at all. That and thinking about how, out of 4,000+ religions, not one has ever been proven beyond a reasonable doubt to be the "right" one or that any god/goddess has ever been proven to even exist. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TyVulpine 03/14/24 5:47:41 AM #72:	projectpat72988 posted... There is one of the huge glaring issues with god. How could there possibly be an all-knowing god while at the same time humans still possess free will? If some entity knew every single action we will ever take down to the tiniest of detail. If god knew 100,000 or 100 trillion years ago I would be typing this right now. Am I really deciding to? Or is he ya know...not all knowing. Or even there at all. Now this is also something that bugs me. Christians say "he gave us free will!" at the same time they say "obey him or else!" as well as saying "God has a plan for everyone!". Well, that gives the obvious contradictions. If we have free will, we cannot be punished for being skeptical with lack of evidence that any god exists. If a god does exist and has a plan for everyone, then we are just robots marching along to that plan and thus free will doesn't exist. If there is a god that is claimed to love everyone, why does the god allow miscarriages, children to have cancer, leukemia or other awful diseases, children to be molested/murdered, children to be homeless, families to starve, or anyone for that matter. Why does the god allow women to be raped/assaulted? And so on. --- Insert some witty line here <cite>TyVulpine posted [p:979360281] in At what ag... [t:80719596]...</cite> <quote>projectpat72988 posted... </cite>There is one of the huge glaring issues with god. How could there possibly be an all-knowing god while at the same time humans still possess free will? If some entity knew every single action we will ever take down to the tiniest of detail. If god knew 100,000 or 100 trillion years ago I would be typing this right now. Am I really deciding to? Or is he ya know...not all knowing. Or even there at all.Now this is also something that bugs me. Christians say "he gave us free will!" at the same time they say "obey him or else!" as well as saying "God has a plan for everyone!".Well, that gives the obvious contradictions.If we have free will, we cannot be punished for being skeptical with lack of evidence that any god exists.If a god does exist and has a plan for everyone, then we are just robots marching along to that plan and thus free will doesn't exist.If there is a god that is claimed to love everyone, why does the god allow miscarriages, children to have cancer, leukemia or other awful diseases, children to be molested/murdered, children to be homeless, families to starve, or anyone for that matter. Why does the god allow women to be raped/assaulted? And so on. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YugiNoob 03/14/24 5:58:57 AM #73:	https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/2/2b07861d.jpg --- ( ^_^)/\(^_^ ) Maya High-Five! <cite>YugiNoob posted [p:979360329] in At what ag... [t:80719596]...</cite> <quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/2/2b07861d.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prestoff 03/14/24 11:22:22 AM #74:	YugiNoob posted... https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/2/2b07861d.jpg Lol --- DI MOLTO! <cite>Prestoff posted [p:979363707] in At what ag... [t:80719596]...</cite> <quote>YugiNoob posted... </cite><quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/2/2b07861d.jpg</quote>Lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IMNOTRAGED 03/14/24 11:51:13 AM #75:	YugiNoob posted... https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/2/2b07861d.jpg The entire system that they came up with makes him the most evil asshole conceivable by default. Basically this god created 90% of the humans who ever existed for the sole purpose of torturing them for eternity seeing as they were born in the wrong place or before Christianity even existed. --- DEBO ERA "Be ruthless with systems; be kind to people." <cite>IMNOTRAGED posted [p:979364171] in At what ag... [t:80719596]...</cite> <quote>YugiNoob posted... </cite><quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/2/2b07861d.jpg</quote>The entire system that they came up with makes him the most evil asshole conceivable by default. Basically this god created 90% of the humans who ever existed for the sole purpose of torturing them for eternity seeing as they were born in the wrong place or before Christianity even existed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prototypic 03/14/24 11:57:32 AM #76:	IMNOTRAGED posted... The entire system that they came up with makes him the most evil asshole conceivable by default. Basically this god created 90% of the humans who ever existed for the sole purpose of torturing them for eternity seeing as they were born in the wrong place or before Christianity even existed. Or he's just wildly incompetent. Keeps sending prophets to the same 10,000 square miles of desert, because apparently everyone in Asia, Africa, the Americas, Australia, etc., can get fucked. I think the Quran even claims that he totally did send prophets to every place on earth, but I guess he just picked a lot of really incompetent people to spread his message. --- Thus I became a madman. <cite>Prototypic posted [p:979364257] in At what ag... [t:80719596]...</cite> <quote>IMNOTRAGED posted... </cite><quote>The entire system that they came up with makes him the most evil asshole conceivable by default. Basically this god created 90% of the humans who ever existed for the sole purpose of torturing them for eternity seeing as they were born in the wrong place or before Christianity even existed.</quote>Or he's just wildly incompetent. Keeps sending prophets to the same 10,000 square miles of desert, because apparently everyone in Asia, Africa, the Americas, Australia, etc., can get fucked. I think the Quran even claims that he totally did send prophets to every place on earth, but I guess he just picked a lot of really incompetent people to spread his message. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Toonstrack 03/14/24 5:19:46 PM #77:	YugiNoob posted... https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/2/2b07861d.jpg Is this meme suggesting that it would be loving, alternatively, for God to let evil people get away with whatever they want? Thats an interesting approach. --- This post didn't exist to you until you read it. You willed it into existence in your psyche by choosing to observe it. Thats the power you have. Use it well. <cite>Toonstrack posted [p:979369413] in At what ag... [t:80719596]...</cite> <quote>YugiNoob posted... </cite><quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/2/2b07861d.jpg</quote>Is this meme suggesting that it would be loving, alternatively, for God to let evil people get away with whatever they want?Thats an interesting approach. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IMNOTRAGED 03/14/24 5:50:04 PM #78:	Don't know what all those evil babies did but I'm sure it was worthy of being drowned! --- DEBO ERA "Be ruthless with systems; be kind to people." <cite>IMNOTRAGED posted [p:979369982] in At what ag... [t:80719596]...</cite> <quote>Don't know what all those evil babies did but I'm sure it was worthy of being drowned! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YugiNoob 03/14/24 5:55:10 PM #79:	IMNOTRAGED posted... Don't know what all those evil babies did but I'm sure it was worthy of being drowned! They didnt accept Christ into their heart as they exited the womb :( --- ( ^_^)/\(^_^ ) Maya High-Five! <cite>YugiNoob posted [p:979370067] in At what ag... [t:80719596]...</cite> <quote>IMNOTRAGED posted... </cite><quote>Don't know what all those evil babies did but I'm sure it was worthy of being drowned!</quote>They didnt accept Christ into their heart as they exited the womb :( </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightningThief 03/14/24 6:04:28 PM #80:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] I'd argue what you are saying easily goes back to KanWans post as well. Death in a lot of circles is mysterious, still is. Moreso in the past when humans couldn't explain causes of death which only added fuel to the fire in some circles. Some supernatural force was pissed off, or wasnt happy which caused your death andor illness. Customs that had nothing to do with science to save humans or promote a prosperous life. Then the question of where you go after death is a concept the humans to this day still want to find answers to. Hence so many supernatural places, beings and explanations attested to life after death like spirits, heaven, hell, underworlds, spirit realms, Valhalla, reapers, shikigami, etc, etc. Even to this day, so many humans assert supernatural explanations to explain away phenomenon they can't explain. Or supernatural explanations to provide comfort explanations to things they hope is real like helping a loved one find peace or dreaming about a loved one, or thinking they saw some supernatural force involving death, or safe travel through a ritual of some sort that varies from culture to culture. <cite>LightningThief posted [p:979370195] in At what ag... [t:80719596]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> I'd argue what you are saying easily goes back to KanWans post as well.Death in a lot of circles is mysterious, still is. Moreso in the past when humans couldn't explain causes of death which only added fuel to the fire in some circles. Some supernatural force was pissed off, or wasnt happy which caused your death andor illness. Customs that had nothing to do with science to save humans or promote a prosperous life. Then the question of where you go after death is a concept the humans to this day still want to find answers to.Hence so many supernatural places, beings and explanations attested to life after death like spirits, heaven, hell, underworlds, spirit realms, Valhalla, reapers, shikigami, etc, etc.Even to this day, so many humans assert supernatural explanations to explain away phenomenon they can't explain. Or supernatural explanations to provide comfort explanations to things they hope is real like helping a loved one find peace or dreaming about a loved one, or thinking they saw some supernatural force involving death, or safe travel through a ritual of some sort that varies from culture to culture.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thronedfire2 03/14/24 7:03:30 PM #82:	YugiNoob posted... They didnt accept Christ into their heart as they exited the womb :( it wouldn't matter if they had, God fucked the world up on the first try and had to hit the reset button lazy asshole shouldn't have taken the 7th day off --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:979371117] in At what ag... [t:80719596]...</cite> <quote>YugiNoob posted... </cite><quote>They didnt accept Christ into their heart as they exited the womb :(</quote>it wouldn't matter if they had, God fucked the world up on the first try and had to hit the reset buttonlazy asshole shouldn't have taken the 7th day off </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Toonstrack 03/14/24 7:18:03 PM #83:	IMNOTRAGED posted... Don't know what all those evil babies did but I'm sure it was worthy of being drowned! I dont see babies in that picture lmao --- This post didn't exist to you until you read it. You willed it into existence in your psyche by choosing to observe it. Thats the power you have. Use it well. <cite>Toonstrack posted [p:979371353] in At what ag... [t:80719596]...</cite> <quote>IMNOTRAGED posted... </cite><quote>Don't know what all those evil babies did but I'm sure it was worthy of being drowned!</quote>I dont see babies in that picture lmao </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Toonstrack 03/14/24 7:22:08 PM #84:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Is it cool to allow them to terrorize the not evil people? There is nothing loving about that in the slightest. And these are people this god supposedly made. As the story goes he gave them a chance to survive. He gave them ample chance to survive, and ample warning. He told them a deluge was coming and they would not survive if they weren't on that boat. They scoffed, and kept along with their day. What more is he supposed to do? No thank you. That dude is fucking evil. Like I said, "its evil to punish evil" is certainly a take. Theres plenty of characters fictional and otherwise that have done worse to more, but are viewed as heroic. Its always interesting to see how morally particular people become when you attach the big G word to things. --- This post didn't exist to you until you read it. You willed it into existence in your psyche by choosing to observe it. Thats the power you have. Use it well. <cite>Toonstrack posted [p:979371422] in At what ag... [t:80719596]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Is it cool to allow them to terrorize the not evil people?<quote>There is nothing loving about that in the slightest. And these are people this god supposedly made.</quote>As the story goes he gave them a chance to survive. He gave them ample chance to survive, and ample warning. He told them a deluge was coming and they would not survive if they weren't on that boat. They scoffed, and kept along with their day. What more is he supposed to do?<quote>No thank you. That dude is fucking evil.</quote>Like I said, "its evil to punish evil" is certainly a take. Theres plenty of characters fictional and otherwise that have done worse to more, but are viewed as heroic. Its always interesting to see how morally particular people become when you attach the big G word to things. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prestoff 03/14/24 7:26:46 PM #85:	Toonstrack posted... I dont see babies in that picture lmao Surely God made all the innocent babies float on the water when he flooded the world... --- DI MOLTO! <cite>Prestoff posted [p:979371506] in At what ag... [t:80719596]...</cite> <quote>Toonstrack posted... </cite><quote>I dont see babies in that picture lmao</quote>Surely God made all the innocent babies float on the water when he flooded the world... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssjevot 03/14/24 7:28:27 PM #86:	LightningThief posted... Then the question of where you go after death is a concept the humans to this day still want to find answers to. I think you see this go away in post-religious societies: https://www.gallup-international.com/survey-results-and-news/survey-result/ more-prone-to-believe-in-god-than-identify-as-religious-more-likely-to- believe-in-heaven-than-in-hell (Remove the linebreaks for the link) So Japan basically leads the world in not being religious in the practical sense (42% don't believe in God versus 20% who do). And what you see when asked if an afterlife exists is 44% say it doesn't versus only 18% who say it does. This means even among those who believe in a God, some don't believe in an afterlife. Partly this could be attributed to the types of Buddhism that are popular here which are effectively atheist or at least place emphasis on your current life rather than anything that happens after you die. I think you will see more and more counties move towards these types of beliefs as religion gets less popular. And my anecdotal experience just living in Japan is that talking about believing in an afterlife gets you viewed as no different than if someone told you they believed in ghosts, demons, bigfoot, or whatever other supernatural thing. --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss <cite>ssjevot posted [p:979371538] in At what ag... [t:80719596]...</cite> <quote>LightningThief posted... </cite><quote>Then the question of where you go after death is a concept the humans to this day still want to find answers to.</quote>I think you see this go away in post-religious societies:https://www.gallup-international.com/survey-results-and-news/survey-result/more-prone-to-believe-in-god-than-identify-as-religious-more-likely-to-believe-in-heaven-than-in-hell(Remove the linebreaks for the link)So Japan basically leads the world in not being religious in the practical sense (42% don't believe in God versus 20% who do). And what you see when asked if an afterlife exists is 44% say it doesn't versus only 18% who say it does. This means even among those who believe in a God, some don't believe in an afterlife. Partly this could be attributed to the types of Buddhism that are popular here which are effectively atheist or at least place emphasis on your current life rather than anything that happens after you die.I think you will see more and more counties move towards these types of beliefs as religion gets less popular. And my anecdotal experience just living in Japan is that talking about believing in an afterlife gets you viewed as no different than if someone told you they believed in ghosts, demons, bigfoot, or whatever other supernatural thing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 03/14/24 7:28:59 PM #87:	I was brought up in a religious household, but I dropped that stuff in my teenage years. Too many things didn't make sense. Why does black church service last for 4 to 6 hours? Why did so many churches I went to in Texas have no AC in the summer? Those little fans don't help. And why did the pastors at those churches always have such nice cars and houses? They could afford to pay for AC for the church. Why does god need money? Why does the church ask for 10% of everyone's income? Why did the pastor of a church my mom stopped going to get visibly angry when she wouldn't commit to going back? And that's not even starting on the stuff that doesn't make sense in the bible or the hypocrisy I've seen from religious people. --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg <cite>CableZL posted [p:979371544] in At what ag... [t:80719596]...</cite> <quote>I was brought up in a religious household, but I dropped that stuff in my teenage years. Too many things didn't make sense. Why does black church service last for 4 to 6 hours?Why did so many churches I went to in Texas have no AC in the summer? Those little fans don't help.And why did the pastors at those churches always have such nice cars and houses? They could afford to pay for AC for the church.Why does god need money?Why does the church ask for 10% of everyone's income?Why did the pastor of a church my mom stopped going to get visibly angry when she wouldn't commit to going back? And that's not even starting on the stuff that doesn't make sense in the bible or the hypocrisy I've seen from religious people. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FL81 03/14/24 7:31:12 PM #88:	thank God my parents were never religious --- https://i.imgur.com/TGkNCva.gif https://i.imgur.com/8mWCvA4.gif <cite>FL81 posted [p:979371581] in At what ag... [t:80719596]...</cite> <quote>thank God my parents were never religious </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Toonstrack 03/14/24 7:47:09 PM #89:	Prestoff posted... Surely God made all the innocent babies float on the water when he flooded the world... As I said above: Theres plenty of characters fictional and otherwise that have done worse to more, but are viewed as heroic. Its always interesting to see how morally particular people become when you attach the big G word to things. Tony Stark, of the avengers, killed plenty of babies with his weapons manufacturing while fighting terrorists, Is he evil? --- This post didn't exist to you until you read it. You willed it into existence in your psyche by choosing to observe it. Thats the power you have. Use it well. <cite>Toonstrack posted [p:979371812] in At what ag... [t:80719596]...</cite> <quote>Prestoff posted... </cite><quote>Surely God made all the innocent babies float on the water when he flooded the world...</quote>As I said above:<quote>Theres plenty of characters fictional and otherwise that have done worse to more, but are viewed as heroic. Its always interesting to see how morally particular people become when you attach the big G word to things.</quote>Tony Stark, of the avengers, killed plenty of babies with his weapons manufacturing while fighting terrorists, Is he evil? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 03/14/24 7:49:42 PM #90:	CableZL posted... I was brought up in a religious household, but I dropped that stuff in my teenage years. Too many things didn't make sense. * Why does black church service last for 4 to 6 hours? * Why did so many churches I went to in Texas have no AC in the summer? Those little fans don't help. * And why did the pastors at those churches always have such nice cars and houses? They could afford to pay for AC for the church. * Why does god need money? * Why does the church ask for 10% of everyone's income? * Why did the pastor of a church my mom stopped going to get visibly angry when she wouldn't commit to going back? And that's not even starting on the stuff that doesn't make sense in the bible or the hypocrisy I've seen from religious people. it's like how I figured out Santa wasn't real "why does this toy Santa gave me say made in China instead of the north pole?? and why can't those fucking elves make two AA batteries if they can make this whole complicated electronic toy??" --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:979371849] in At what ag... [t:80719596]...</cite> <quote>CableZL posted... </cite><quote>I was brought up in a religious household, but I dropped that stuff in my teenage years. Too many things didn't make sense. * Why does black church service last for 4 to 6 hours?* Why did so many churches I went to in Texas have no AC in the summer? Those little fans don't help.* And why did the pastors at those churches always have such nice cars and houses? They could afford to pay for AC for the church.* Why does god need money?* Why does the church ask for 10% of everyone's income?* Why did the pastor of a church my mom stopped going to get visibly angry when she wouldn't commit to going back? And that's not even starting on the stuff that doesn't make sense in the bible or the hypocrisy I've seen from religious people.</quote>it's like how I figured out Santa wasn't real"why does this toy Santa gave me say made in China instead of the north pole?? and why can't those fucking elves make two AA batteries if they can make this whole complicated electronic toy??" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prestoff 03/14/24 9:21:06 PM #91:	Toonstrack posted... As I said above: Tony Stark, of the avengers, killed plenty of babies with his weapons manufacturing while fighting terrorists, Is he evil? Does Tony Stark claim to be all powerful, all knowing, all loving omnipotent being that commands to be worshipped or face doom to hell for all eternity? It's only a wonder why the Judeo Christian God from the holy text would be judged a lot harsher than almost most other fictional writing in existence, especially when people make claims that you have to accept the stories in the holy text as fact regardless. --- DI MOLTO! <cite>Prestoff posted [p:979373370] in At what ag... [t:80719596]...</cite> <quote>Toonstrack posted... </cite><quote>As I said above:Tony Stark, of the avengers, killed plenty of babies with his weapons manufacturing while fighting terrorists, Is he evil?</quote>Does Tony Stark claim to be all powerful, all knowing, all loving omnipotent being that commands to be worshipped or face doom to hell for all eternity? It's only a wonder why the Judeo Christian God from the holy text would be judged a lot harsher than almost most other fictional writing in existence, especially when people make claims that you have to accept the stories in the holy text as fact regardless. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
InTheEyesOfFire 03/14/24 9:23:44 PM #92:	Middle school. --- "Oh man would you just shut up already, how come all you sword guys have to talk about how cool your swords are?" <cite>InTheEyesOfFire posted [p:979373416] in At what ag... [t:80719596]...</cite> <quote>Middle school. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IMNOTRAGED 03/14/24 9:56:12 PM #93:	Toonstrack posted... I dont see babies in that picture lmao It's obviously referencing the flood story? --- DEBO ERA "Be ruthless with systems; be kind to people." <cite>IMNOTRAGED posted [p:979373935] in At what ag... [t:80719596]...</cite> <quote>Toonstrack posted... </cite><quote>I dont see babies in that picture lmao</quote>It's obviously referencing the flood story? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tripleh213 03/14/24 10:09:49 PM #95:	FolkenRawr posted... Some time in high school. --- Bucks World Champions 2021 PS4 looks great <cite>tripleh213 posted [p:979374124] in At what ag... [t:80719596]...</cite> <quote>FolkenRawr posted... </cite><quote>Some time in high school.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
vycebrand2 03/14/24 10:38:25 PM #96:	Prototypic posted... Or he's just wildly incompetent. Keeps sending prophets to the same 10,000 square miles of desert, because apparently everyone in Asia, Africa, the Americas, Australia, etc., can get fucked. I think the Quran even claims that he totally did send prophets to every place on earth, but I guess he just picked a lot of really incompetent people to spread his message. I brought this up before. So the flood happens right? Then they need to explain people in the Americas at the same time the flood supposed to happen. It would take generations to even populate enough people to migrate to the Americas. And not have issues. Lets not forget Cain. It says he leaves and marries in another area. How? Did God just start making other people? I've made the point that It's laser focused on 1 group of people. It's all from their perspective and doesn't factor anything else --- I was born when she kissed me. I died when she left me. I lived a few weeks while she loved me- <cite>vycebrand2 posted [p:979374574] in At what ag... [t:80719596]...</cite> <quote>Prototypic posted... </cite><quote>Or he's just wildly incompetent. Keeps sending prophets to the same 10,000 square miles of desert, because apparently everyone in Asia, Africa, the Americas, Australia, etc., can get fucked. I think the Quran even claims that he totally did send prophets to every place on earth, but I guess he just picked a lot of really incompetent people to spread his message.</quote>I brought this up before. So the flood happens right? Then they need to explain people in the Americas at the same time the flood supposed to happen. It would take generations to even populate enough people to migrate to the Americas. And not have issues. Lets not forget Cain. It says he leaves and marries in another area. How? Did God just start making other people? I've made the point that It's laser focused on 1 group of people. It's all from their perspective and doesn't factor anything else </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TyVulpine 03/15/24 12:09:59 AM #97:	vycebrand2 posted... I brought this up before. So the flood happens right? Then they need to explain people in the Americas at the same time the flood supposed to happen. It would take generations to even populate enough people to migrate to the Americas. And not have issues. Lets not forget Cain. It says he leaves and marries in another area. How? Did God just start making other people? I've made the point that It's laser focused on 1 group of people. It's all from their perspective and doesn't factor anything else Same reason why there's no kangaroo fossils between Mount Ararat and Australia. --- Insert some witty line here <cite>TyVulpine posted [p:979375800] in At what ag... [t:80719596]...</cite> <quote>vycebrand2 posted... </cite><quote>I brought this up before. So the flood happens right? Then they need to explain people in the Americas at the same time the flood supposed to happen. It would take generations to even populate enough people to migrate to the Americas. And not have issues. Lets not forget Cain. It says he leaves and marries in another area. How? Did God just start making other people? I've made the point that It's laser focused on 1 group of people. It's all from their perspective and doesn't factor anything else</quote>Same reason why there's no kangaroo fossils between Mount Ararat and Australia. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YugiNoob 03/15/24 12:45:11 AM #98:	vycebrand2 posted... I brought this up before. So the flood happens right? Then they need to explain people in the Americas at the same time the flood supposed to happen. It would take generations to even populate enough people to migrate to the Americas. And not have issues. Lets not forget Cain. It says he leaves and marries in another area. How? Did God just start making other people? I've made the point that It's laser focused on 1 group of people. It's all from their perspective and doesn't factor anything else This is one of the things that my coworker absolutely cannot handle. Some things she'll just say "read the Bible, it has the answers" or something (which translates to "I know it doesn't make sense but don't want to admit it"). But since the Bible itself says that Adam and Eve only had 3 kids, one of which was murdered, that means that Cain and/or Seth HAD to have had some... disturbing "relations" with their mom. Or hell, maybe Abel too before he died. Or maybe the Bible just conveniently left out a lot of stuff, like God repopulating the world, or making all kangaroos immortal on their trip to Australia. --- ( ^_^)/\(^_^ ) Maya High-Five! <cite>YugiNoob posted [p:979376183] in At what ag... [t:80719596]...</cite> <quote>vycebrand2 posted... </cite><quote>I brought this up before. So the flood happens right? Then they need to explain people in the Americas at the same time the flood supposed to happen. It would take generations to even populate enough people to migrate to the Americas. And not have issues. Lets not forget Cain. It says he leaves and marries in another area. How? Did God just start making other people? I've made the point that It's laser focused on 1 group of people. It's all from their perspective and doesn't factor anything else</quote>This is one of the things that my coworker absolutely cannot handle. Some things she'll just say "read the Bible, it has the answers" or something (which translates to "I know it doesn't make sense but don't want to admit it"). But since the Bible itself says that Adam and Eve only had 3 kids, one of which was murdered, that means that Cain and/or Seth HAD to have had some... disturbing "relations" with their mom. Or hell, maybe Abel too before he died. Or maybe the Bible just conveniently left out a lot of stuff, like God repopulating the world, or making all kangaroos immortal on their trip to Australia. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Toonstrack 03/15/24 3:10:58 AM #99:	Prestoff posted... Does Tony Stark claim to be all powerful, all knowing, all loving omnipotent being that commands to be worshipped or face doom to hell for all eternity? He claims to be a few of those things depending on the run. But he mostly claims to be a hero, and the good guy and a good person. And generally he's not threatening you with damnstion, but definitely death, for trying to stop him. It's only a wonder why the Judeo Christian God from the holy text would be judged a lot harsher, when it comes to morals, than almost most other fictional writing in existence, especially when people make claims that you have to accept the stories in the holy text as fact regardless. My guy, Tony Stark is level one of this kinds discussion. We could get to several other examples that would prove how two faced thos logic is, especially since we're the heinous act were discussing is... killing a bunch of evil people who were violent and abusive. But you speak to a certain truth of things... when you bring up "god" in this discussion you get an entirely different, far more scrutinize and holier than tho perspective unironically, with people trying to prove their morals are superior to Gods. The question is tho, that has more to do with the persons problem with religious PEOPLE, and indivdual dogmas made contact with, than the concept of God itself. --- This post didn't exist to you until you read it. You willed it into existence in your psyche by choosing to observe it. Thats the power you have. Use it well. <cite>Toonstrack posted [p:979377376] in At what ag... [t:80719596]...</cite> <quote>Prestoff posted... </cite><quote>Does Tony Stark claim to be all powerful, all knowing, all loving omnipotent being that commands to be worshipped or face doom to hell for all eternity?</quote>He claims to be a few of those things depending on the run. But he mostly claims to be a hero, and the good guy and a good person. And generally he's not threatening you with damnstion, but definitely death, for trying to stop him. <quote>It's only a wonder why the Judeo Christian God from the holy text would be judged a lot harsher, when it comes to morals, than almost most other fictional writing in existence, especially when people make claims that you have to accept the stories in the holy text as fact regardless.</quote>My guy, Tony Stark is level one of this kinds discussion. We could get to several other examples that would prove how two faced thos logic is, especially since we're the heinous act were discussing is... killing a bunch of evil people who were violent and abusive.But you speak to a certain truth of things... when you bring up "god" in this discussion you get an entirely different, far more scrutinize and holier than tho perspective unironically, with people trying to prove their morals are superior to Gods. The question is tho, that has more to do with the persons problem with religious PEOPLE, and indivdual dogmas made contact with, than the concept of God itself. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Toonstrack 03/15/24 3:20:08 AM #100:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Well, no we don't because the story doesn't say that. It doesn't even say that they had to remain evil. They chose to. And, if were going to be dogmatic like this, then the destruction of the 99% of evil 1% of good should mean God would be good should it not? Second, are you saying that all "sin" should receive the punishment of death? But their "sin" didn't HAVE to recieve the punishment of death. Thats kinda the point. Oh, how fucking gracious that an evil god gave his creations a chance before he smite'd the fuck out of them You're siding alot with the violent thieving murderous abusers here and attributing all blame onto God for his response to that being harsh. Thats certainly a take. It was the good people suffering, or the bad people suffering at the end of the day. That was the situation, warnings were given, opportunities had to avoid the consequences. Is the wolf evil for eating the boy who cried wolf, or were those just consequences of poor decision making? You cant have it both ways and say that God was evil for making them evil, but that he is also evil for removing the evil. If they're made evil, wouldn't it be good that he destroyed them, and if they're not made evil, when how is he evil for cresting them? You're right that this particular protagonist, if you will, is extremely flawed like protagonists in other stories about fictional characters. Not all of those characters are portrayed, nor viewed as flawed though. Many get called righteous and heroic. --- This post didn't exist to you until you read it. You willed it into existence in your psyche by choosing to observe it. Thats the power you have. Use it well. <cite>Toonstrack posted [p:979377436] in At what ag... [t:80719596]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Well, no we don't because the story doesn't say that. It doesn't even say that they had to remain evil. They chose to.And, if were going to be dogmatic like this, then the destruction of the 99% of evil 1% of good should mean God would be good should it not?<quote>Second, are you saying that all "sin" should receive the punishment of death?</quote>But their "sin" didn't HAVE to recieve the punishment of death. Thats kinda the point. <quote>Oh, how fucking gracious that an evil god gave his creations a chance before he smite'd the fuck out of them</quote>You're siding alot with the violent thieving murderous abusers here and attributing all blame onto God for his response to that being harsh. Thats certainly a take. It was the good people suffering, or the bad people suffering at the end of the day. That was the situation, warnings were given, opportunities had to avoid the consequences. Is the wolf evil for eating the boy who cried wolf, or were those just consequences of poor decision making?You cant have it both ways and say that God was evil for making them evil, but that he is also evil for removing the evil. If they're made evil, wouldn't it be good that he destroyed them, and if they're not made evil, when how is he evil for cresting them?<quote>You're right that this particular protagonist, if you will, is extremely flawed like protagonists in other stories about fictional characters.</quote>Not all of those characters are portrayed, nor viewed as flawed though. Many get called righteous and heroic. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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