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dancing_cactuar
03/13/24 1:29:21 PM
#301:


Enclave posted...
If that idiot employee didn't themselves start trying to harass the list creator and wasn't always shit posting on twitter then the list would probably have like 100 morons on it and nobody would have even known it existed.
From 5k people to over 270k people as of now following the curator because the employee that also had a spicy take on Toriyama decided to open his maw and try to get the curator creator banned off steam. This literally would have been some random obscure list lost among all the steam curators if that dope didn't make a huge thing about it.

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SpiritSephiroth
03/13/24 1:37:36 PM
#302:


dancing_cactuar posted...
From 5k people to over 270k people as of now following the curator because the employee that also had a spicy take on Toriyama decided to open his maw and try to get the curator creator banned off steam. This literally would have been some random obscure list lost among all the steam curators if that dope didn't make a huge thing about it.

Yeah I personally started looking into it more when he dissed Toriyama. Some of his friends also started taking digs at Toriyama. I'm pretty sure when he did that, he attracted the attention of people outside the gaming sphere, further escalating the issue.

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evilpresident
03/13/24 1:38:28 PM
#303:


Gamers having a normal one again.

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NoxObscuras
03/13/24 1:38:59 PM
#304:


Enclave posted...
I mean, yeah, it is just a list. It's a really fucking stupid reason to make the list but it is just a list rather than a targeted harassment campaign.

If that idiot employee didn't themselves start trying to harass the list creator and wasn't always shit posting on twitter then the list would probably have like 100 morons on it and nobody would have even known it existed.
Sure, that employee made it 100% worse by bringing more attention to it. That still doesn't change the fact that the creation of the list has a very clear intent. Now it's a dog whistle

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Revelation34
03/13/24 1:40:40 PM
#305:


NoxObscuras posted...


"It'S jUsT a LiSt"

The Creator of that list:

Just a list though right? No agenda there... Nope.


That's not what the curator page says. "A tracker for games involved with Sweet Baby Inc."

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Solo_Wing
03/13/24 2:12:26 PM
#306:


Another list to comb through when buying a new game, for those who are not fan of wokified games

https://store.steampowered.com/curator/44913915-ESG-consultants-Detected/

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Revelation34
03/13/24 2:14:37 PM
#307:


Solo_Wing posted...
Another list to comb through when buying a new game, for those who are not fan of wokified games

https://store.steampowered.com/curator/44913915-ESG-consultants-Detected/


Why is an indie developer who used Kickstarter wasting money hiring somebody else?

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McMarbles
03/13/24 2:19:03 PM
#308:


Solo_Wing posted...
Another list to comb through when buying a new game, for those who are not fan of wokified games

https://store.steampowered.com/curator/44913915-ESG-consultants-Detected/
Unironically using the word "wokified." Wow.

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Murphiroth
03/13/24 2:23:40 PM
#309:


Solo_Wing posted...
Another list to comb through when buying a new game, for those who are not fan of wokified games

https://store.steampowered.com/curator/44913915-ESG-consultants-Detected/

Define wokified.
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Skyscraper101
03/13/24 2:23:43 PM
#310:


Solo_Wing posted...
Another list to comb through when buying a new game, for those who are not fan of wokified games

https://store.steampowered.com/curator/44913915-ESG-consultants-Detected/

Man you guys shit on these but at the end of the day that list is composed of like 99% shitty games so there is obv something there
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hockeybabe89
03/13/24 2:26:32 PM
#311:


Samus0075 posted...
They are basically a company that messes up games . Look at sales anything that the company is involved wih does not do well .
Alan Wake II is better than your favorite game

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Revelation34
03/13/24 2:29:35 PM
#312:


Skyscraper101 posted...


Man you guys shit on these but at the end of the day that list is composed of like 99% shitty games so there is obv something there


Most of the games on that list are good.

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Murphiroth
03/13/24 2:30:08 PM
#313:


Skyscraper101 posted...
Man you guys shit on these but at the end of the day that list is composed of like 99% shitty games so there is obv something there

No it isn't, at least half the games on the list are good to great.
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Enclave
03/13/24 2:33:18 PM
#314:


Skyscraper101 posted...
Man you guys shit on these but at the end of the day that list is composed of like 99% shitty games so there is obv something there

Plague Tale games, Firewatch, Psychonauts 2, Timespinner and Crypt of the NecroDancer are all good games. The rest of the list I can't really comment on as I haven't actually heard of or played but those games? Good.

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Phantom_Nook
03/13/24 2:34:31 PM
#315:


imagine saying shit like "wokified" and expecting other people to not laugh and dismiss you immediately.

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NoxObscuras
03/13/24 3:01:03 PM
#316:


Revelation34 posted...
That's not what the curator page says. "A tracker for games involved with Sweet Baby Inc."
Well yeah. If they actively spelled out the intent on the curator page, then Steam would actually have justification for shutting it down. Plausible deniability is always the game they play.

But the Creator of the list has been interviewed a few times and has been more open about his intentions there. That's where those quotes came from.

Here's the interview I quoted from:

https://www.geeksandgamers.com/an-interview-with-sweet-baby-inc-detected-creator-kabrutus/

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Punished_Blinx
03/13/24 3:25:36 PM
#317:


dancing_cactuar posted...
I mean the devs had to spend money to hire them as script doctors, so if they truly offer a service with no value then the devs are literally wasting money. So when Remedy says that they had to go pan handle to Epic because they got no money, and then they immediately spend money on an allegedly worthless service, I'm just thinking of that dril tweet about spending $3.6k on candles.

How much of their $75 million budget do you think they used on Sweet Baby Inc.

Remedy clearly didn't think it was a worthless service considering they are one of the developers who specifically mentioned Sweet Baby Inc in their blog when talking about how they created Saga Anderson.

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CM_Ponch
03/13/24 4:17:13 PM
#318:


Was SB the one that wrote John Stewart was "one of the good ones"

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SpiritSephiroth
03/13/24 4:18:48 PM
#319:


CM_Ponch posted...
Was SB the one that wrote John Stewart was "one of the good ones"

lmao I remember that. That was some racist ass shit. Whoever wrote that had to be trolling.

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Vyrulisse
03/13/24 4:21:12 PM
#320:


It's still going strong because these Journos and their sycophants just can't help themselves with their gaslighting, lies and misdirection. It's incredible that they are trying the same playbook as years ago except now nobody is falling for it.

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dancing_cactuar
03/13/24 5:35:59 PM
#321:


CM_Ponch posted...
Was SB the one that wrote John Stewart was "one of the good ones"

Given how Sweet Baby Inc has declared on their website to have written/helped write the logs and the banter for the Suicide Squad game, we can now say that they gave the thumbs up to:

Architect and Marine, probably was an honor student, wholesome all-American white picket fence type of stuff. Kind of guy that makes you think "one of the good ones" before gettin' some alien jewelry and becoming a Space Cop.

Remember that episode of Justice League Unlimited when a member of the Justice Guild called John "a credit to his people".

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HeroFlyChao
03/15/24 9:58:48 AM
#322:


Soooo a lot of folks in the industry are calling this Gamergate 2.0.

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Trelve
03/15/24 10:05:35 AM
#323:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/8b1061b4.jpg
Wikipedia has a list of Sweet Baby games, what will they do about this?
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Phantom_Nook
03/15/24 10:16:44 AM
#324:


HeroFlyChao posted...
Soooo a lot of folks in the industry are calling this Gamergate 2.0.
That's how smart people know to laugh this off as incel shit.

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PaperSplash
03/15/24 10:20:03 AM
#325:


HeroFlyChao posted...
Soooo a lot of folks in the industry are calling this Gamergate 2.0.
I mean, it kind of is. A whole lot of reactionary gamers being smug and dumb (and many also openly bigoted) in response to a small handful of journalists and industry people being smug and dumb.

Trelve posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/8b1061b4.jpg
Wikipedia has a list of Sweet Baby games, what will they do about this?
Nothing. The whole reason that one Sweet Baby employee wanted that curator list taken down was because they believe it was created with malicious intent.
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hockeybabe89
03/15/24 10:51:40 AM
#326:


Can gamers just shut the fuck up?

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03/15/24 3:04:28 PM
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Bass_X0
03/15/24 9:48:53 PM
#328:


hockeybabe89 posted...
Can gamers just shut the fuck up?

if gaming is treated with dignity and respect by developers and journalists, they would

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rwbonesy
03/15/24 9:55:35 PM
#329:


Bass_X0 posted...
if gaming is treated with dignity and respect by developers and journalists, they would
booboo you dropped your clown nose

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Bass_X0
03/15/24 10:34:39 PM
#330:


rwbonesy posted...
booboo you dropped your clown nose

Please point out the lie in my statement.

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DarthAragorn
03/15/24 10:36:52 PM
#331:


Bass_X0 posted...
Please point out the lie in my statement.
Gamers are the reason gaming isn't treated with dignity and respect

And I say that as someone with the fucking PC in my sig

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dave_is_slick
03/15/24 10:48:10 PM
#332:


Punished_Blinx posted...
https://kotaku.com/sweet-baby-inc-consulting-games-alan-wake-2-dei-1851312428

Hilarious that Kotaku has provided a better summary than anyone else in this topic has managed.
You trust Kotaku?

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dave_is_slick
03/15/24 11:09:12 PM
#333:


Solo_Wing posted...
wokified
I don't think I ever did to begin with, but now I know to never listen to a word you say.

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Revelation34
03/16/24 12:13:52 AM
#334:


NoxObscuras posted...

Well yeah. If they actively spelled out the intent on the curator page, then Steam would actually have justification for shutting it down. Plausible deniability is always the game they play.

But the Creator of the list has been interviewed a few times and has been more open about his intentions there. That's where those quotes came from.

Here's the interview I quoted from:

https://www.geeksandgamers.com/an-interview-with-sweet-baby-inc-detected-creator-kabrutus/


Ok then explain how the page itself is harassment.

DarthAragorn posted...

Gamers are the reason gaming isn't treated with dignity and respect

And I say that as someone with the fucking PC in my sig


With a Dell monitor?

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sevihaimerej
03/16/24 1:52:27 PM
#335:


Trelve posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/8b1061b4.jpg
Wikipedia has a list of Sweet Baby games, what will they do about this?
According to this list their influence on GOW Ragnarok, Spider Man 2, and Alan Wake 2 was just sensitivity reading and consultation, the writing in the games with their writing credit attributed is unknown to me besides Suicide Squad which was all around just terrible in every conceivable way. I'd much rather know whoever worked on Forspoken or Saints Row Reboot.

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Revelation34
03/17/24 5:57:40 AM
#336:


Wait scriptwriting? Anybody that pays somebody else to write an entire script when they have their own writers is a piece of shit.

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falayyou01
03/17/24 6:00:46 AM
#337:


Revelation34 posted...
Wait scriptwriting? Anybody that pays somebody else to write an entire script when they have their own writers is a piece of shit.
This.

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CrimsonGear80
03/17/24 6:07:19 AM
#338:


So summary: a bunch of whiners whining about games beingwoke.

what would an anti-woke game be like? if one of these whiners could answer that.


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AceVanquish
03/17/24 6:08:34 AM
#339:


CrimsonGear80 posted...
So summary: a bunch of whiners whining about games beingwoke.

what would an anti-woke game be like? if one of these whiners could answer that.
Probably the other 90% of games that they like

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Zwijn
03/17/24 6:11:06 AM
#340:


AceVanquish posted...
Probably the other 90% of games that they like
More like the games they like because of cognitive dissonance. No right winger could ever like JRPGs or anime as much as they say they do.
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CrimsonGear80
03/17/24 6:14:19 AM
#341:


AceVanquish posted...
Probably the other 90% of games that they like

which are? I need examples from the anti-woke brigade.

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AceVanquish
03/17/24 6:16:29 AM
#342:


Zwijn posted...
More like the games they like because of cognitive dissonance. No right winger could ever like JRPGs or anime as much as they say they do.
Some people on this website literally celebrated the Abe assassination bc they hate conservatives that much so idk man

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CrimsonGear80
03/17/24 6:17:43 AM
#343:


Revelation34 posted...
Wait scriptwriting? Anybody that pays somebody else to write an entire script when they have their own writers is a piece of shit.

people are "awful" if they want to hire scriptwriters who specialize in scripwriting?

hey everyone, never call a pizza place for a pizza, make it yourself or you are a terrible person!

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falayyou01
03/17/24 6:18:02 AM
#344:


CrimsonGear80 posted...
So summary: a bunch of whiners whining about games beingwoke.

what would an anti-woke game be like? if one of these whiners could answer that.
Stellar Blade.

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CrimsonGear80
03/17/24 6:18:52 AM
#345:


falayyou01 posted...
Stellar Blade.

any game any of them have actually played?

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Kai_Laguna
03/17/24 6:19:16 AM
#346:


CrimsonGear80 posted...
which are? I need examples from the anti-woke brigade.
Probably a bunch of porn games. As you can by reading the previous replies to this thread, they are more then willing to whip out the old cognitive dissonance for when they actually like a game Sweet Baby did work for, like Alan Wake 2.
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falayyou01
03/17/24 6:20:45 AM
#347:


CrimsonGear80 posted...
any game any of them have actually played?
Nier Automata, any Souls game, Metal Gear Solid games.

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Zwijn
03/17/24 6:22:47 AM
#348:


falayyou01 posted...
Stellar Blade.
I can promise you there is a subset of chuds who take issues with said game for having a strong female minority lead.
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falayyou01
03/17/24 6:23:32 AM
#349:


Zwijn posted...
I can promise you there is a subset of chuds who take issues with said game for having a strong female minority lead.
Then fuck them.

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CrimsonGear80
03/17/24 6:33:52 AM
#350:


falayyou01 posted...
Nier Automata, any Souls game, Metal Gear Solid games.

Metal Gear solid? really?

those games are literally made up of everything those people call "woke" nowadays...

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