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BlackOmnimon
03/04/24 2:43:39 PM
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https://twitter.com/yuzuemu/status/1764733659444064671?s=20

Nintendo have won this round.

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Unknown5uspect
03/04/24 2:44:56 PM
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Well fuck

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Doe
03/04/24 2:45:06 PM
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Never quite understood why a bunch of people paid money to the Yuzu developers on Patreon when Ryujinx exists and sometimes ran games better.

Edit: apparently Ryujinx has a Patreon too? I couldve swore it did not lol.

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Hayame_Zero
03/04/24 2:47:18 PM
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Emulators are supposed to keep a low profile and not inform its users how and where to get ROMs. Yuzo did the exact opposite. It was also paywalled.

Just the dumbest way to go about having emulation on their part.

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NeonOPPAl
03/04/24 2:48:44 PM
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I thought it was just Yuzu. Citra is also going down?

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Foppe
03/04/24 2:49:32 PM
#6:


NeonOPPAl posted...
I thought it was just Yuzu. Citra is also going down?
Same creators.

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Vyrulisse
03/04/24 2:50:22 PM
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That message is so full of shit it might as well be a septic tank.
Putting the blame on their users for shit they knew was gonna happen when they started the project.

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DarthAragorn
03/04/24 2:51:07 PM
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There's not an alternative 3DS emulator as far as I know, and 3DSes are no longer sold nor is it possible to buy games for it.

Fuck Nintendo.

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LightHawKnight
03/04/24 2:51:38 PM
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Damn didnt care much for yuzu, but citra... damn.

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NeonOPPAl
03/04/24 2:51:47 PM
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Yuzu is off of github but Citra is still there

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PowerOats
03/04/24 2:52:16 PM
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'Yuzu and it's team has always been against piracy'

Nintendo shoulda doubled the settlement for that
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Prestoff
03/04/24 2:54:42 PM
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Citra as well? Damn, I don't even know if there's another 3DS emulator out there. I wonder if they decided to shut down Citra themselves or if Nintendo told them.

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lucariopikmin
03/04/24 2:57:36 PM
#15:


Prestoff posted...
I wonder if they decided to shut down Citra themselves or if Nintendo told them.
Sounds like it was part of the settlement that they wouldn't infringe on their copyright anymore and might just be playing it safe.

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CRON
03/04/24 2:58:40 PM
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Hayame_Zero posted...
Emulators are supposed to keep a low profile and not inform its users how and where to get ROMs. Yuzo did the exact opposite. It was also paywalled.

Just the dumbest way to go about having emulation on their part.
You can unironically blame Zoomers for this

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ChrisTaka
03/04/24 3:00:11 PM
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That response reads like someone that had a gun towards the back of their head as they typed it lmao

Anyway, fuck Nintendo

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yusiko
03/04/24 3:03:01 PM
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This is why you shouldn't make emulators for systems currently still making money for the company
Shame Citra got killed on the cross fire

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NeonOPPAl
03/04/24 3:05:07 PM
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Some rando uploaded the latest early Access build to Github >_>

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Punished_Blinx
03/04/24 3:08:07 PM
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Vyrulisse posted...
That message is so full of shit it might as well be a septic tank.
Putting the blame on their users for shit they knew was gonna happen when they started the project.

Isn't it kinda obvious this is part of their settlement?

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Foppe
03/04/24 3:09:31 PM
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NeonOPPAl posted...
Some rando uploaded the latest early Access build to Github >_>
Of Yuzu?
Somebody have released every EA build on github the same day Yuzu did.

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hereforemnant
03/04/24 3:10:38 PM
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ChrisTaka posted...
That response reads like someone that had a gun towards the back of their head as they typed it lmao

Anyway, fuck Nintendo
Definitely read like that yeah
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bnui_ransder
03/04/24 3:13:07 PM
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We cut a door into a gold vault, we didn't expect people to steal

No matter the intentions, people will do the worse with what you provide

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Zikten
03/04/24 3:15:09 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
There's not an alternative 3DS emulator as far as I know, and 3DSes are no longer sold nor is it possible to buy games for it.

Fuck Nintendo.
Nintendo doesn't care. They want you to wait like 15 years when they finally decide to do a remake of an old 3ds game and buy it from them
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Killmonger
03/04/24 3:15:37 PM
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Not surprised. We still have Dolphin though right?

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Killmonger
03/04/24 3:16:30 PM
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At least theyre both open source.


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weeb98
03/04/24 3:37:54 PM
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we can still play our old games that work on citra right?
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CM_Ponch
03/04/24 3:40:03 PM
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What sucks is that 3DS is hard to stream/record otherwise

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BowflexPeloton
03/04/24 3:56:50 PM
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Who would have thought that charging for an emulator would have got them heat
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GhostFaceLeaks
03/04/24 3:59:31 PM
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This is going to set a precedent. Say goodbye to all of your emulators now and not just Yuzu and Citra.

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Northlane
03/04/24 4:01:48 PM
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I didn't pay Nintendo a single $1 for either the 3DS (Amazon warehouse) or the games (hShop)

Suck it!

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Charged151
03/04/24 4:20:43 PM
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Dang... Citra is gone too! Damn it. That's really sad. I don't know if there is even an alternative as the 3DS is a dead system with the eStore shutdown.

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Charged151
03/04/24 4:27:55 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Good to know. Thankfully it is open source which makes that possible. Also need to check on melon3DS.

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Gwynevere
03/04/24 4:41:54 PM
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There's already reuploads of the latest Citra nightly. Pandora's box is open, and it's literally impossible to shut it

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xlr_big-coop
03/04/24 5:32:45 PM
#36:


Unknown5uspect posted...
Well fuck
My exact words. I have everything backed up but I didn't expect citra to croak as well.

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Cobra1010
03/04/24 5:37:53 PM
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They fucked themselves for taking money on patreon.

Its a good thing im not a nintendo fan. The last game i enjoyed was Smash Bros Melee and i still have my gamecube and Smash bros mini disc.

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luigi33
03/04/24 5:38:35 PM
#38:


Zikten posted...
Nintendo doesn't care. They want you to wait like 15 years when they finally decide to do a remake of an old 3ds game and buy it from them
They can suck fat one. Not gonna happen and I will continue use of Yuzu and Citra as well as most other emulator users.

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Starks
03/04/24 5:39:07 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Might be better to just do a clean room implementation and avoid Yuzu/Citra code.

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PraetorXyn
03/04/24 5:40:57 PM
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Good luck trying to remove an open source project from the internet. Fuck Nintendo.

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luigi33
03/04/24 5:41:04 PM
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Starks posted...
Might be better to just do a clean room implementation and avoid Yuzu/Citra code.
Depends. Many open source devs are based in countries that would laugh in Nintendo's face if they try a lawsuit.

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Prestoff
03/04/24 5:42:39 PM
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PraetorXyn posted...
Good luck trying to remove an open source project from the internet. Fuck Nintendo.

It wasn't about getting rid of Yuzu and Citra, it was about sending a message...unfortunately.

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PraetorXyn
03/04/24 5:46:36 PM
#43:


Prestoff posted...
It wasn't about getting rid of Yuzu and Citra, it was about sending a message...unfortunately.
What message, that if youre going to creat an emulator dont do stupid shit like paywalls? They dont have a leg to stand on legally.

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Charged151
03/04/24 5:47:00 PM
#44:


Gwynevere posted...
There's already reuploads of the latest Citra nightly. Pandora's box is open, and it's literally impossible to shut it
Glad Citra will still be around in some form or another. Being open source code, it can easily be forked.

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luigi33
03/04/24 5:52:12 PM
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There is no way to stop emulation. Not only is it tough to break legally, but since it's open source if you tear down 1 head 2 more heads pop up. I guarantee you this won't stop a Switch 2 emulator if the hardware is shit and weak sauce

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PraetorXyn
03/04/24 5:54:16 PM
#46:


luigi33 posted...
There is no way to stop emulation. Not only is it tough to break legally, but since it's open source if you tear down 1 head 2 more heads pop up. I guarantee you this won't stop a Switch 2 emulator if the hardware is shit and weak sauce
The funny thing is the Switch 2 will probably be so similar from an architectural / chip standpoint that the Yuzu code will probably mostly just work for it.

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Prestoff
03/04/24 5:54:54 PM
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PraetorXyn posted...
What message, that if youre going to creat an emulator dont do stupid shit like paywalls? They dont have a leg to stand on legally.

I just think Nintendo doesn't want emulators on their current consoles because the lawsuit was primarily on TotK being played weeks early before its release date, with many of the offenders using Yuzu for that. Nintendo hasn't hit older emulators like the dolphin for instance. Yuzu is open source, so it's only a matter of time someone rereleases it on the web.

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PraetorXyn
03/04/24 5:57:27 PM
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Prestoff posted...
I just think Nintendo doesn't want emulators on their current consoles because the lawsuit was primarily on TotK being played weeks early before its release date, with many of the offenders using Yuzu for that. Nintendo hasn't hit older emulators like the dolphin for instance. Yuzu is open source, so it's only a matter of time someone rereleases it on the web.
Nintendo doesnt want emulators period. They went after Yuzu because the stupid paywall shit gave them enough ammo they felt they could bully the devs into knuckling under. That and our fucked up legal system meaning they can just drag the proceedings out til whoever theyre suing runs out of money.

Legally, theyve got absolutely nothing.

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Philip027
03/04/24 6:02:51 PM
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NeonOPPAl posted...
Yuzu is off of github but Citra is still there

An installation file is there still, but it no longer works.
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Prestoff
03/04/24 6:04:46 PM
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PraetorXyn posted...
Nintendo doesnt want emulators period. They went after Yuzu because the stupid paywall shit gave them enough ammo they felt they could bully the devs into knuckling under. That and our fucked up legal system meaning they can just drag the proceedings out til whoever theyre suing runs out of money.

Legally, theyve got absolutely nothing.

You're not going to find me disagreeing with you. Even two of my friends, who are lawyers, also say there's enough "technicality's" for Yuzu to win the lawsuit...but of course like you said Nintendo would've just dragged it out until they ran out of money. At least I still got Yuzu on my steam deck while my switch continues to catch dust.

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