Current Events > The Cry to Vote 'uncommitted'

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These peoples faces when trump's wins and his gaza strategy makes biden look like a kind and altruistic Saint

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Voting third party is practically the same as not voting at all, and from what Im told its known that low turnout benefits the GOP far more than the Dems, and vice versa.

Actual good people with actual sensible morals try to minimize damage, not flip everyone the bird because they find it unfair to the dead that others are alive. In the scenario I mention, it's a trolley problem. Do you choose the track with less people, or do you walk away and leave it up to fate because you don't care anymore?

I'm not withholding my vote out of spite.

You being condescending is making me want to vote for Biden less.

Voting 3rd party is also voting against Trump, and Biden.
But we don't want that, aren't we?

And why is that?
Why not enough people show up to vote?
Why the democrats are not encouraging the non voters to vote?

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And why is that?
Why not enough people show up to vote?
Why the democrats are not encouraging the non voters to vote?

Why do parties have to encourage people to exercise their rights? Why do parties have to convince you to do what's best for survival? It's pathetic that we don't have nearly 100% turnout every election.1

Seems you don't get it.

People are not showing up to vote because they see it's pointless.
No matter who they pick, the result still the same.
Biden or Trump, the massacre still happen.

Why do parties have to encourage people to exercise their rights?

If only there were more issues in America than Israel massacring Palestine...

Democracy is how the public holds politicians accountable.

And we don't want a say in that if those politicians don't convince us to vote? Do they also need to convince us to breathe?

Biden's fault that Trump won.

So i vote for Biden and the genocide still happening.

And if Biden is really that great, he won't need our vote.
It's a simple democracy, the candidates that promise me what i want will get my vote.

Maybe Biden should try to do something to make sure he wins this do-or-die election instead of actively doing things that, on top of being moral atrocities, are causing him to lose this do-or-die election

And we don't want a say in that if those politicians don't convince us to vote?

Then I guess you're ready to get killed by Trump with that logic. Okay. I'm glad you're okay with dying to stick it to the man. I'm not.

As much as these fucking morons want to believe it, no, it <u>WILL</u> be their fucking fault.

And they should <u>NEVER</u> be allowed to live it down if it turns out like this.

As much as these fucking morons want to believe it, no, it WILL be their fucking fault.

And they should NEVER be allowed to live it down if it turns out like this.

Look at this desperate straw grasping lol

Voting is a right, and every person has the right to use it as they like.

Why should we need anyone to do anything to convince us to vote for "not dying"?

We're gonna lay down and die and go "maybe the Democrats should have given us more than lesser evil"? Survival isn't just a human instinct anymore?

We are going to punish ourselves and tens of millions of innocent Americans far more than we will punish Democrat politicians. Where is the logic in that? What does that actually help? Who does it benefit?

And using it to brutally murder every LGBTQ person in the country can be criticized with another right: freedom of speech.

Israel is going to genocide Palestine no matter what. Why not prevent America from genociding Americans? Is it spite?

Maybe we should change the point of view.

We assumed that some people are allowing the genocide happened because they support Biden, maybe what's really happening is that they support Biden because they supported the Genocide.

That's why any argument about Palestine situation won't change their stance

What about the guy that is fanatically supporting a genocide and refuses to use any of the mountains of leverage he has to do anything about it and has everyone in the country shouting at the top of their lungs that this is going to lose him the election

Does Biden have any agency whatsoever

Israel is going to genocide Palestine no matter what.

You just want to give up and then go "Well Biden should have given me more!"

Amazing that these people really think it's a good argument.

How is it not a good argument? Damage mitigation. If you can't save all lives, you take the option that saves the most lives.

Enabling a Genocide is never an option.

And yet Americans have voted for 300 years

Biden does have agency. And we have agency to vote against Trump out of a sense of damage mitigation and self-preservation. I'm using Biden, not voting for him because I like him. You just want to give up and then go "Well Biden should have given me more!"

Shut the fuck up. Israel would not exist without unconditional American support. Biden could end the genocide overnight by witholding aid and weapons and he has chosen not to for almost 5 months. Not only has he chosen not to end the conflict, he has gone out of his way to give Israel even more weapons than Congress will give it. The blood of tens of thousands of Palestinians is on his hands.

And yet Americans have voted for 300 years

Does Obama also have the blood on his hands, and every President post-WW2? None of them have ever ended support of Israel.

And you guys are proud for enabling genocide.
Is this really the stance you want to take? Genocides are fine as long it didn't affect me (yet)?

Amazing that you can convince yourself as the good guys

Does Obama also have the blood on his hands, and every President post-WW2? None of them have ever ended support of Israel. And even if Biden did, that would absolutely not end the genocide. Israel would just find another way.

Does Obama also have the blood on his hands, and every President post-WW2?

And even if Biden did, that would absolutely not end the genocide. Israel would just find another way.

You're right. I should be a real good guy and go "If some people are dying, then fuck the world. All you assholes can burn!"

You're right. I should be a real good guy and go "If some people are dying, then fuck the world. All you assholes can burn!"

Yes, Obama's got a reputation as a Killer Drone master.

This attempt of whataboutism is pointless anyway.

Its not a whataboutism, its calling out a double standard. If you voted Obama and didnt complain about supporting genocide until now, thats hypocrisy.

Without question. All of them are culpable for the current situation.

Its not a whataboutism, its calling out a double standard. If you voted Obama and didnt complain about supporting genocide until now, thats hypocrisy.

It's not heart disease. Why do you feel the need to not call genocide genocide?

So this means we don't need to vote because it's their fault if a Christofascist party destroys America and dooms everyone to suffering?

The hypocrisy is on the ones that clearly sering a genocide happening but refuse to admit it as one.
And you think nobody complain about his drone bombings?

It's just as hypocritical to be against genocide and vote for Biden when it's at the worst it has been.

Making a point is more important than being alive?