Current Events > At least 100 killed when Israel opened fire on people waiting for food.

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I was told on good authority they were one of the most strictly trained & regulated militaries in the world. With a high focus on maintaining order & minimizing civilian casualties

They arent going to accomplish anything with this war. They are only hurting themselves at this point. They are creating millions of people that hate them more than they ever did before, unless they just kill everyone, which seems to be their MO

They are literally starving those people to death, what do they expect?

When was this?
Because they have always targeted children, medics and journalists.

there have definitely been pushes before this to cut off funding to Israel. you're right that the majority of politicians vote in favor of it but things like BDS were around way before this. either way, the only thing to do is keep pushing in whatever way possible.

please dont comment on politics anymore after that shit show of a topic last night.

Yeah. This is creating a generation of global animosity. The zionists are in power today but they'll exist in much smaller Numbers in the future and it's only a matter of time before US cuts off Israel funding for good.

Religion of peace.

Fuck that, you don't get to ruin a civil topic by flinging bullshit and then act anyone else needs to shut the fuck up.

The thing is, you have an occupier and an apartheid state.

It would be like calling an uprising of Black Americans during the Jim Crow era an engagement of two sides... when in really you have an absolutely uneven power dynamic. Or probably a better example would be our own Native American genocides in the United States.

I guess a literal genocide of the entire Palestinian people and a bulldozing of their land and the very memory of their existence - is a fair response to the Hamas attacks of October 7 following decades of institutionalized apartheid...

Can anyone still defend Israel?

It seems things are very murky right now about what actually happened. When the dust clears well hopefully find out what really happened.

No it's not the IDF killed people. And thisbwhat they do. They lie about what happened. 3 weeks go by and truth comes put but no one cares. The IDF killed an American reporter the attacked her funeral. What other group can do that and get the benefit of the doubt .

How long is it gonna take for anyone to do something? Whole world is actively watching a genocide and the only people with the balls to act are the fucking Houthis.

So theres no need for additional details or facts, this just applies in every case and theres zero nuance. We are just going on the initial chaotic reports.

This is a huge problem on this board and why its dumb to discuss anything remotely serious here.

What astounds me is how so many supposed bleeding heart people only care about the atrocities the U.S. directly or indirectly supports when the media decides it's newsworthy. There is so much suffering in the world beyond our comprehension in first world countries, and it will only get worse if we lose our focus on the bigger picture.

Is Biden responsible for clearing up the messes in Afghanistan, Ukraine, and Israel to the satisfaction of both the left and the right? I'm sure he'd like to do something constructive, but the political pressures from all over would leave him in a perpetual stalemate.

So theres no need for additional details or facts, this just applies in every case and theres zero nuance. We are just going on the initial chaotic reports.

This is a huge problem on this board and why its dumb to discuss anything remotely serious here.

Because it has consistently come out that the initial reports are true and Israel's claims are lies. You don't believe or give benefit of the doubt to a chronic liar when up against a source that's been pretty damn reliable. The only reason anyone would do so is if they have a vested interest in the liar's side.

Even more so when their MO has literally been to lie and bury it, and ensure there's a new horrific event for everyone to focus on by the time the truth is absolutely confirmed (which again, almost always turns out to be the initial claim was true and Israel's denials were lies).

What astounds me is how so many supposed bleeding heart people only care about the atrocities the U.S. directly or indirectly supports when the media decides it's newsworthy. There is so much suffering in the world beyond our comprehension in first world countries, and it will only get worse if we lose our focus on the bigger picture.

Ideally yes, but there's also a HUGE difference between supporting an active genocide vs simply not cleaning up a mess you've made. The latter is bad. The former is outright despicable.

Do you want us to invade? This post is just dumb hand wringing because we can't do anything to stop the genocides happening in Africa or the genocide in China other than invade. Meanwhile this war, we can just cut funding, stop sending weapons and remove war ships protecting the offending nation. There far more control over this, and what we see is that America is too immoral to do any good.

Hamas should release the hostages.

Even if we're using the term genocide only now, it's not like the situation in Israel was much better before the events late last year, when you take into account the aggregate losses over the years.

I think there is a definite need for activism on this issue because without it we live in the same state of ignorance and the situation has definitely gotten worse in a short amount of time, but be aware of what is realistically achievable by our leaders when we're coming up on election season. Focus on the real enemy and not your own political allies.

They had homes back then lmao. Most of their homes been destroyed in this conflict. Universities are gone. Food production is gone. Hospitals are gone. Schools are gone. The whole population have PTSD. Entire societal disruption is extremely differen from "aggreagate" loses. This is a political number game to frame it in this way. I do not think you comprehend the level of destruction that comes with the term TOTAL war.

Israel cannot survive without global support. A boycott alone can cripple the nation, hence why it illegal to do so. All they have to do is stop the current support. Do not even need active interference

Just straight up cold-blooded murder.

Why can't we be emphasizing such escalation to centrist voters in swing states rather than try to pressure Biden directly to go against the collective desire of critical voters?

And sorry but politics is a numbers game when it comes down to it. Elections by their nature are numbers games.

Oh yeah, Biden should totally let the gazans just die off and I'm sure he'd win the next election in a landslide.

So theres no need for additional details or facts, this just applies in every case and theres zero nuance. We are just going on the initial chaotic reports.

This is a huge problem on this board and why its dumb to discuss anything remotely serious here.

Critical voters? Like the ones that overwhelmingly desire a ceasefire and more pressure on Israel.

Given enough time, every dog stop walking on their hind legs, and walk on all fours. I guess this is that moment for you.

Israel cannot survive without global support. A boycott alone can cripple the nation, hence why it illegal to do so. All they have to do is stop the current support. Do not even need active interference

otal support must be given to our heroic fighters operating in Gaza, who acted excellently against a Gazan mob that tried to harm them. Today it was proven that the transfer of humanitarian aid to Gaza is not only madness while our abductees are being held in the Strip under substandard conditions, but also endangers the IDF soldiers. This is another clear reason why we must stop transferring this aid, which is in fact aid to harm the IDF soldiers and oxygen to Hamas.

Their National Security just posted this.

https://twitter.com/itamarbengvir/status/1763196768458604583

Their National Security just posted this.

https://twitter.com/itamarbengvir/status/1763196768458604583

Talking points some other dude made