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Jen0125 02/26/24 1:10:58 PM #51:	adjl posted... "I feel bad about the Holocaust, so I should probably stand up for the Jews here." This sentiment makes me insane. WWII and the Holocaust were my special interest history topics to learn about as a teen. Everything I read shapes my opinion on what is happening now. Zionists are completely in the wrong. Anyone with a cursory understanding of the Holocaust can see that. <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:979053796] in god they'r... [t:80705526]...</cite> <quote>adjl posted... </cite><quote>"I feel bad about the Holocaust, so I should probably stand up for the Jews here."</quote>This sentiment makes me insane. WWII and the Holocaust were my special interest history topics to learn about as a teen. Everything I read shapes my opinion on what is happening now. Zionists are completely in the wrong. Anyone with a cursory understanding of the Holocaust can see that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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adjl 02/26/24 1:41:54 PM #54:	Jen0125 posted... This sentiment makes me insane. WWII and the Holocaust were my special interest history topics to learn about as a teen. Everything I read shapes my opinion on what is happening now. Zionists are completely in the wrong. Anyone with a cursory understanding of the Holocaust can see that. What's really annoying is that I get it: A huge factor in the "success" of the Holocaust and the other ways in which the Nazis oppressed Jews was a strong undercurrent of casual antisemitism throughout all of Europe. Hitler didn't show up as some antisemitic asshole out of nowhere, he just represented the extreme of the the antisemitism most people felt. It wasn't until the extent of the Nazis atrocities came to light that the rest of the world realized just how bad the antisemitism they thought nothing of had gotten, and to that end I fully understand why people are hesitant to disapprove of Israel: Even if it seems reasonable to them, they've seen what can happen with the free pass that's afforded by reasonably (in their eyes) thinking ill of Jews, and they don't want that to happen again. The reality, of course, is that such matters are significantly more complex than just "don't be mean to Jews," but I do believe that most pro-Israel people at least mean well. It's just really frustrating to see intelligent, well-meaning people just drop the issue at "I don't want to be antisemitic" or "Hamas is a terrorist organization" when there's so much more to it than that and arming Israel is so blatantly complicit in a horrific genocide. Avoiding antisemitism is good, but not when that anti-antisemitism prevents you from recognizing and responding appropriately to cases when somebody who happens to be Jewish is doing something wrong. BoomerKuwanger posted... That's fair, but there are like ten people who read this board and I think we're already like 66-80% pro-Palestine All true, but I still think it's worth taking the time to form arguments. If nothing else, doing so helps me understand the issue better. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:979054416] in god they'r... [t:80705526]...</cite> <quote>Jen0125 posted... </cite><quote>This sentiment makes me insane. WWII and the Holocaust were my special interest history topics to learn about as a teen. Everything I read shapes my opinion on what is happening now. Zionists are completely in the wrong. Anyone with a cursory understanding of the Holocaust can see that.</quote>What's really annoying is that I get it: A huge factor in the "success" of the Holocaust and the other ways in which the Nazis oppressed Jews was a strong undercurrent of casual antisemitism throughout all of Europe. Hitler didn't show up as some antisemitic asshole out of nowhere, he just represented the extreme of the the antisemitism most people felt. It wasn't until the extent of the Nazis atrocities came to light that the rest of the world realized just how bad the antisemitism they thought nothing of had gotten, and to that end I fully understand why people are hesitant to disapprove of Israel: Even if it seems reasonable to them, they've seen what can happen with the free pass that's afforded by reasonably (in their eyes) thinking ill of Jews, and they don't want that to happen again.The reality, of course, is that such matters are significantly more complex than just "don't be mean to Jews," but I do believe that most pro-Israel people at least mean well. It's just really frustrating to see intelligent, well-meaning people just drop the issue at "I don't want to be antisemitic" or "Hamas is a terrorist organization" when there's so much more to it than that and arming Israel is so blatantly complicit in a horrific genocide. Avoiding antisemitism is good, but not when that anti-antisemitism prevents you from recognizing and responding appropriately to cases when somebody who happens to be Jewish is doing something wrong.BoomerKuwanger posted... </cite><quote>That's fair, but there are like ten people who read this board and I think we're already like 66-80% pro-Palestine</quote>All true, but I still think it's worth taking the time to form arguments. If nothing else, doing so helps me understand the issue better. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 02/26/24 1:42:57 PM #55:	adjl posted... What's really annoying is that I get it: A huge factor in the "success" of the Holocaust and the other ways in which the Nazis oppressed Jews was a strong undercurrent of casual antisemitism throughout all of Europe. Hitler didn't show up as some antisemitic asshole out of nowhere, he just represented the extreme of the the antisemitism most people felt. It wasn't until the extent of the Nazis atrocities came to light that the rest of the world realized just how bad the antisemitism they thought nothing of had gotten, and to that end I fully understand why people are hesitant to disapprove of Israel: Even if it seems reasonable to them, they've seen what can happen with the free pass that's afforded by reasonably (in their eyes) thinking ill of Jews, and they don't want that to happen again. The reality, of course, is that such matters are significantly more complex than just "don't be mean to Jews," but I do believe that most pro-Israel people at least mean well. It's just really frustrating to see intelligent, well-meaning people just drop the issue at "I don't want to be antisemitic" or "Hamas is a terrorist organization" when there's so much more to it than that and arming Israel is so blatantly complicit in a horrific genocide. Avoiding antisemitism is good, but not when that anti-antisemitism prevents you from recognizing and responding appropriately to cases when somebody who happens to be Jewish is doing something wrong. Yeah my beef is with Zionists, not Jewish people as a whole. People that ignore the distinction are either ignorant or acting in bad faith. <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:979054433] in god they'r... [t:80705526]...</cite> <quote>adjl posted... </cite><quote>What's really annoying is that I get it: A huge factor in the "success" of the Holocaust and the other ways in which the Nazis oppressed Jews was a strong undercurrent of casual antisemitism throughout all of Europe. Hitler didn't show up as some antisemitic asshole out of nowhere, he just represented the extreme of the the antisemitism most people felt. It wasn't until the extent of the Nazis atrocities came to light that the rest of the world realized just how bad the antisemitism they thought nothing of had gotten, and to that end I fully understand why people are hesitant to disapprove of Israel: Even if it seems reasonable to them, they've seen what can happen with the free pass that's afforded by reasonably (in their eyes) thinking ill of Jews, and they don't want that to happen again.The reality, of course, is that such matters are significantly more complex than just "don't be mean to Jews," but I do believe that most pro-Israel people at least mean well. It's just really frustrating to see intelligent, well-meaning people just drop the issue at "I don't want to be antisemitic" or "Hamas is a terrorist organization" when there's so much more to it than that and arming Israel is so blatantly complicit in a horrific genocide. Avoiding antisemitism is good, but not when that anti-antisemitism prevents you from recognizing and responding appropriately to cases when somebody who happens to be Jewish is doing something wrong.</quote>Yeah my beef is with Zionists, not Jewish people as a whole. People that ignore the distinction are either ignorant or acting in bad faith. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 02/26/24 1:49:05 PM #56:	https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68405119 <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:979054517] in god they'r... [t:80705526]...</cite> <quote>https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68405119</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 02/26/24 2:27:05 PM #57:	Jen0125 posted... https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68405119 "In an interview with CBS News on Sunday, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu defended the offensive in the face of international criticism, saying America would be "doing a hell of a lot more" if it had suffered such an attack." Interesting defense. Not only is there zero substance to it beyond "everyone else is doing it!" (and even then, it's not actually "everyone else," it's "one country that already supports us"), it's also demonstrably untrue. 9/11 killed more than double the number of Americans than Hamas' October attack killed Israelis, and in the 20 years that followed, a combined ~70,400 civilians were killed in Afghanistan and Pakistan, alongside ~85,600 combatants (https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/figures/2021/WarDeathToll). Israel's killed 30k civilians in four months and has maybe 100 combatant kills to show for it (admittedly, I haven't seen any more recent figures than the 13 they had when civilian deaths were only at 8k, so that may need correction). That's not to say there isn't also plenty of room to criticize the US for the amount of collateral damage they inflicted during the War of Terror and other American offensives in the Middle East (holy hecknuggets there's room to criticize the US for that), but Israel is quite unquestionably killing citizens at a much higher rate and with much lower success eliminating their actual targets (and probably with greater damage to critical infrastructure that will lead to more indirect deaths, though that's hard to quantify). Netenyahu doesn't have to lean on "The US would do the same thing," because the US has already faced a worse attack and not responded the way Israel has. Jen0125 posted... Yeah my beef is with Zionists, not Jewish people as a whole. People that ignore the distinction are either ignorant or acting in bad faith. In many cases, it is just ignorance. The fact that Israel as it exists today didn't exist before 1948 isn't nearly as common knowledge as one would expect such a major piece of geopolitical information to be, and for people that don't readily know that, it's pretty easy to think of ethnic Jews elsewhere in the world as just being Israeli immigrants within a few generations, rather than a historical diaspora going back thousands of years. It's certainly not helped by people taking the Bible as... well, gospel, ignoring the historical reality of the region and everything that happened between 1 and 1948. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:979055240] in god they'r... [t:80705526]...</cite> <quote>Jen0125 posted... </cite><quote>https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68405119</quote>"In an interview with CBS News on Sunday, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu defended the offensive in the face of international criticism, saying America would be "doing a hell of a lot more" if it had suffered such an attack."Interesting defense. Not only is there zero substance to it beyond "everyone else is doing it!" (and even then, it's not actually "everyone else," it's "one country that already supports us"), it's also demonstrably untrue. 9/11 killed more than double the number of Americans than Hamas' October attack killed Israelis, and in the 20 years that followed, a combined ~70,400 civilians were killed in Afghanistan and Pakistan, alongside ~85,600 combatants (https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/figures/2021/WarDeathToll). Israel's killed 30k civilians in four months and has maybe 100 combatant kills to show for it (admittedly, I haven't seen any more recent figures than the 13 they had when civilian deaths were only at 8k, so that may need correction). That's not to say there isn't also plenty of room to criticize the US for the amount of collateral damage they inflicted during the War of Terror and other American offensives in the Middle East (holy hecknuggets there's room to criticize the US for that), but Israel is quite unquestionably killing citizens at a much higher rate and with much lower success eliminating their actual targets (and probably with greater damage to critical infrastructure that will lead to more indirect deaths, though that's hard to quantify). Netenyahu doesn't have to lean on "The US would do the same thing," because the US has already faced a worse attack and not responded the way Israel has.Jen0125 posted... </cite><quote>Yeah my beef is with Zionists, not Jewish people as a whole. People that ignore the distinction are either ignorant or acting in bad faith.</quote>In many cases, it is just ignorance. The fact that Israel as it exists today didn't exist before 1948 isn't nearly as common knowledge as one would expect such a major piece of geopolitical information to be, and for people that don't readily know that, it's pretty easy to think of ethnic Jews elsewhere in the world as just being Israeli immigrants within a few generations, rather than a historical diaspora going back thousands of years. It's certainly not helped by people taking the Bible as... well, gospel, ignoring the historical reality of the region and everything that happened between 1 and 1948. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MeatiestMeatus 02/26/24 3:04:34 PM #58:	To add to what adjl said with regards to civilian casualties and the comparison US operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, Biden advised Israel very early in the Gaza conflict to take whatever measures they could to avoid making the same mistakes the US made after 9/11: https://www.businessinsider.com/biden-warns-israel-dont-make-same-mistakes-sept-11-hamas-2023-10 Straight up admitted the US could've done better. And this was very early in the Gaza conflict, way before much of the carnage unfolded and with ample time for Israel to shift gears and try to do something, yet they ignored Biden's plea and went on to claim countless innocent lives in pursuit of their reckless goals --- If you rise up to heaven I'll turn the sun to blind you If you sleep deep in hell I have chains to bind you <cite>MeatiestMeatus posted [p:979055928] in god they'r... [t:80705526]...</cite> <quote>To add to what adjl said with regards to civilian casualties and the comparison US operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, Biden advised Israel very early in the Gaza conflict to take whatever measures they could to avoid making the same mistakes the US made after 9/11:https://www.businessinsider.com/biden-warns-israel-dont-make-same-mistakes-sept-11-hamas-2023-10Straight up admitted the US could've done better. And this was very early in the Gaza conflict, way before much of the carnage unfolded and with ample time for Israel to shift gears and try to do something, yet they ignored Biden's plea and went on to claim countless innocent lives in pursuit of their reckless goals </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Devil_May_Cry 02/27/24 12:16:10 AM #59:	Jen0125 posted... So you think Palestinians deserve death because they have a government that hasn't allowed free elections since like 2006? Make that make sense please. The vast majority of Israelis want peace and prosperity for Palestinians and everyone but go ahead and hate a whole country and jump intellectual loops around me trying to libel Israel. Israel drops notes warning innocent civilians but Hamas will throw notes away and hold civilians hostage while lobbing bombs / rockets <cite>Devil_May_Cry posted [p:979064836] in god they'r... [t:80705526]...</cite> <quote>Jen0125 posted... </cite><quote>So you think Palestinians deserve death because they have a government that hasn't allowed free elections since like 2006? Make that make sense please.</quote>The vast majority of Israelis want peace and prosperity for Palestinians and everyone but go ahead and hate a whole country and jump intellectual loops around me trying to libel Israel. Israel drops notes warning innocent civilians but Hamas will throw notes away and hold civilians hostage while lobbing bombs / rockets</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lokarin 02/27/24 1:40:55 AM #62:	Youth Party... or New Yevon? --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:979065704] in god they'r... [t:80705526]...</cite> <quote>Youth Party... or New Yevon? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Devil_May_Cry 02/27/24 8:01:02 AM #63:	BoomerKuwanger posted... Did Hamas really do that or is that another IDF propaganda lie? Not to defend Hamas but Israel has lied about countless things in this conflict and said "but Hamas tho". As if blowing up people's homes is no big deal because they were given a half-assed performative warning about escaping, creating a massive refugee crisis at best. Ah, but the citizens want peace! I guess anything goes because they want peace, surely there's no way that mass bombings and civilian casualties won't escalate any future conflicts. Apparently only Israel gets to dictate what peace entails though, and Palestinians should just shut up and be happy that their children got blown up cause they're being "freed" from Hamas BTW international courts have recognized this as genocide and war crimes. You are absolute scum to continue to defend this. Go fuck yourself loser Hamas hides under and around civilian infrastructure. If you hate America and Israel so much Why not go to another country to espouse your unbridled disdain for the people of Israel and the USA. For that last bit, I want you to know I reported you to our moderators who will most likely choose inaction because they do a terrible job. BoomerKuwanger posted... Maybe that's harsh but dude literally just posts nothing but Zionist shilling and don't care if I get modded lol You wont get modded for bullying because the mods themselves are bullies <cite>Devil_May_Cry posted [p:979068043] in god they'r... [t:80705526]...</cite> <quote>BoomerKuwanger posted... </cite><quote>Did Hamas really do that or is that another IDF propaganda lie? Not to defend Hamas but Israel has lied about countless things in this conflict and said "but Hamas tho". As if blowing up people's homes is no big deal because they were given a half-assed performative warning about escaping, creating a massive refugee crisis at best. Ah, but the citizens want peace! I guess anything goes because they want peace, surely there's no way that mass bombings and civilian casualties won't escalate any future conflicts. Apparently only Israel gets to dictate what peace entails though, and Palestinians should just shut up and be happy that their children got blown up cause they're being "freed" from HamasBTW international courts have recognized this as genocide and war crimes. You are absolute scum to continue to defend this. Go fuck yourself loser</quote>Hamas hides under and around civilian infrastructure. If you hate America and Israel so much Why not go to another country to espouse your unbridled disdain for the people of Israel and the USA.For that last bit, I want you to know I reported you to our moderators who will most likely choose inaction because they do a terrible job.BoomerKuwanger posted... </cite><quote>Maybe that's harsh but dude literally just posts nothing but Zionist shilling and don't care if I get modded lol</quote>You wont get modded for bullying because the mods themselves are bullies</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
captpackrat 02/27/24 8:13:41 AM #64:	Devil_May_Cry posted... Hamas hides under and around civilian infrastructure. The Germans made the same claim about Britain during WWII. The Germans were bombing London, but claiming they only attacked "military" targets. --- Minutus cantorum, minutus balorum, Minutus carborata descendum pantorum. <cite>captpackrat posted [p:979068153] in god they'r... [t:80705526]...</cite> <quote>Devil_May_Cry posted... </cite><quote>Hamas hides under and around civilian infrastructure.</quote>The Germans made the same claim about Britain during WWII. The Germans were bombing London, but claiming they only attacked "military" targets. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 02/27/24 8:47:51 AM #65:	Devil_May_Cry posted... The vast majority of Israelis want peace and prosperity for Palestinian LMAO Devil_May_Cry posted... Israel drops notes warning innocent civilians but Hamas will throw notes away and hold civilians hostage while lobbing bombs / rockets They drop notes?? How about just don't drop bombs at all?? They're ALL civilians. Have the notes stopped Israel from killing tens of thousands of children and babies?? What is the success rate of the notes you keep claiming are so beneficial and angelic of Israel to toss and litter? How do the notes help when they block EVERY exit corridor, bomb every hospital and attack civilian ambulances and food aid?? Your rhetoric is actually evil. Not Jon Stewart. If there is a god, you aren't going to be by their side when you're gone. <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:979068584] in god they'r... [t:80705526]...</cite> <quote>Devil_May_Cry posted... </cite><quote>The vast majority of Israelis want peace and prosperity for Palestinian</quote>LMAODevil_May_Cry posted... </cite><quote>Israel drops notes warning innocent civilians but Hamas will throw notes away and hold civilians hostage while lobbing bombs / rockets</quote>They drop notes?? How about just don't drop bombs at all?? They're ALL civilians. Have the notes stopped Israel from killing tens of thousands of children and babies?? What is the success rate of the notes you keep claiming are so beneficial and angelic of Israel to toss and litter? How do the notes help when they block EVERY exit corridor, bomb every hospital and attack civilian ambulances and food aid?? Your rhetoric is actually evil. Not Jon Stewart. If there is a god, you aren't going to be by their side when you're gone. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jen0125 02/27/24 11:45:50 AM #67:	BoomerKuwanger posted... Also, if he really is Jewish, his beloved MAGA will come after him eventually if they get their way. I mean many Trump supporters already take the streets with literal Nazi flags, but I'm sure he thinks it's just an antifa false flag or something Yeah, no clue how a Jewish person can support MAGA with the open Neo Nazi marches going on. <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:979072038] in god they'r... [t:80705526]...</cite> <quote>BoomerKuwanger posted... </cite><quote>Also, if he really is Jewish, his beloved MAGA will come after him eventually if they get their way. I mean many Trump supporters already take the streets with literal Nazi flags, but I'm sure he thinks it's just an antifa false flag or something</quote>Yeah, no clue how a Jewish person can support MAGA with the open Neo Nazi marches going on. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muscles 02/27/24 12:07:31 PM #68:	You could always vote 3rd party if you don't like Biden --- Muscles Chicago Bears \| Chicago Blackhawks \| Chicago Bulls \| Chicago Cubs \| NIU Huskies <cite>Muscles posted [p:979072436] in god they'r... [t:80705526]...</cite> <quote>You could always vote 3rd party if you don't like Biden </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 02/27/24 12:21:44 PM #69:	Muscles posted... You could always vote 3rd party if you don't like Biden That's a wasted vote in my state. We don't have ranked choice. Definitely everyone should vote how they want but when you only have two parties with a real chance at winning it's a waste. <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:979072716] in god they'r... [t:80705526]...</cite> <quote>Muscles posted... </cite><quote>You could always vote 3rd party if you don't like Biden</quote>That's a wasted vote in my state. We don't have ranked choice. Definitely everyone should vote how they want but when you only have two parties with a real chance at winning it's a waste. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Devil_May_Cry 02/27/24 12:47:47 PM #70:	BoomerKuwanger posted... Also, if he really is Jewish, his beloved MAGA will come after him eventually if they get their way. I mean many Trump supporters already take the streets with literal Nazi flags, but I'm sure he thinks it's just an antifa false flag or something Im not Jewish. But anyone who doesnt toe the ideological far left line is a goose stepping Nazi amirite? Trump has numerous times condemned white supremacists. He puts his foot in his mouth sometimes but so does Biden. Nazis are the ultimate evil and must be taken serious. Trump has Jewish grandchildren and even though he stereotypes Jews and is bigoted. It is disingenuous to claim he wants to eradicate Jews. <cite>Devil_May_Cry posted [p:979073264] in god they'r... [t:80705526]...</cite> <quote>BoomerKuwanger posted... </cite><quote>Also, if he really is Jewish, his beloved MAGA will come after him eventually if they get their way. I mean many Trump supporters already take the streets with literal Nazi flags, but I'm sure he thinks it's just an antifa false flag or something</quote>Im not Jewish. But anyone who doesnt toe the ideological far left line is a goose stepping Nazi amirite?Trump has numerous times condemned white supremacists. He puts his foot in his mouth sometimes but so does Biden.Nazis are the ultimate evil and must be taken serious. Trump has Jewish grandchildren and even though he stereotypes Jews and is bigoted. It is disingenuous to claim he wants to eradicate Jews.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 02/27/24 12:55:48 PM #71:	Muscles posted... You could always vote 3rd party if you don't like Biden all 3rd party candidates are objectively even worse than Biden --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:979073434] in god they'r... [t:80705526]...</cite> <quote>Muscles posted... </cite><quote>You could always vote 3rd party if you don't like Biden</quote>all 3rd party candidates are objectively even worse than Biden </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 02/27/24 12:56:53 PM #72:	Devil_May_Cry posted... Im not Jewish. But anyone who doesnt toe the ideological far left line is a goose stepping Nazi amirite? Trump has numerous times condemned white supremacists. He puts his foot in his mouth sometimes but so does Biden. Nazis are the ultimate evil and must be taken serious. Trump has Jewish grandchildren and even though he stereotypes Jews and is bigoted. It is disingenuous to claim he wants to eradicate Jews. No but anyone that supports a party full of Neo Nazis I would consider a goose stepper for sure. Honk honk <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:979073455] in god they'r... [t:80705526]...</cite> <quote>Devil_May_Cry posted... </cite><quote>Im not Jewish. But anyone who doesnt toe the ideological far left line is a goose stepping Nazi amirite?Trump has numerous times condemned white supremacists. He puts his foot in his mouth sometimes but so does Biden.Nazis are the ultimate evil and must be taken serious. Trump has Jewish grandchildren and even though he stereotypes Jews and is bigoted. It is disingenuous to claim he wants to eradicate Jews.</quote>No but anyone that supports a party full of Neo Nazis I would consider a goose stepper for sure. Honk honk</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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C0RNISHACID 02/27/24 1:49:07 PM #75:	Muscles posted... You could always vote 3rd party if you don't like Biden good one --- his name is duff mcwhalen <cite>C0RNISHACID posted [p:979074468] in god they'r... [t:80705526]...</cite> <quote>Muscles posted... </cite><quote>You could always vote 3rd party if you don't like Biden</quote>good one </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zareth 02/27/24 2:30:11 PM #76:	adjl posted... but Israel is quite unquestionably killing citizens at a much higher rate and with much lower success eliminating their actual targets The citizens ARE their actual targets, too. --- What would Bligh do? <cite>Zareth posted [p:979075248] in god they'r... [t:80705526]...</cite> <quote>adjl posted... </cite><quote>but Israel is quite unquestionably killing citizens at a much higher rate and with much lower success eliminating their actual targets</quote>The citizens ARE their actual targets, too. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 02/27/24 3:04:58 PM #77:	when you say 'genocide is bad' and people think you're being anti-semitic... ... something is wrong here --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:979075899] in god they'r... [t:80705526]...</cite> <quote>when you say 'genocide is bad' and people think you're being anti-semitic... ... something is wrong here </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Devil_May_Cry 02/27/24 10:49:24 PM #78:	BoomerKuwanger posted... If you aren't Jewish, why do you wear a star of David in that picture? I'm not Jewish myself so I can't speak to how offensive that is, but I gotta feel like that's at a very minimum very weird To show solidarity. Also Star of David is important to all the Abrahamic religions <cite>Devil_May_Cry posted [p:979084229] in god they'r... [t:80705526]...</cite> <quote>BoomerKuwanger posted... </cite><quote>If you aren't Jewish, why do you wear a star of David in that picture? I'm not Jewish myself so I can't speak to how offensive that is, but I gotta feel like that's at a very minimum very weird</quote>To show solidarity. Also Star of David is important to all the Abrahamic religions</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ConfusedTorchic 02/27/24 10:51:08 PM #79:	the star of david is just his butthole and i'm tired of pretending it's not --- see my gundams here https://imgur.com/a/F7xKM5r updated 2/18/24; mg freedom 2.0 <cite>ConfusedTorchic posted [p:979084262] in god they'r... [t:80705526]...</cite> <quote>the star of david is just his butthole and i'm tired of pretending it's not </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 02/28/24 11:26:28 AM #80:	Devil_May_Cry posted... Israel drops notes warning innocent civilians If I send you a letter telling you I'm going to burn your house down, I'm still an arsonist, and you're still homeless. I don't magically become a good guy and you don't magically stop being horribly victimized by my crimes just because I gave you a chance to not die in a fire. If we're really keeping with the analogy, though, I then also burned down the house of the friend you went to stay with and you still died. Whoopsie! But hey, at least I warned you about the first one, and that makes it okay. Devil_May_Cry posted... The vast majority of Israelis want peace and prosperity for Palestinians and everyone I (and pretty much everyone else speaking on the matter) have made it pretty clear that when I say "Israel" in this context, I'm speaking of the country in terms of its government and actions on a national scale. Most Israeli citizens do indeed not want to commit genocide, as can be said about most Jewish people worldwide. Israel as a country, however, is doing exactly that, and that's bad. Devil_May_Cry posted... For that last bit, I want you to know I reported you to our moderators who will most likely choose inaction because they do a terrible job. On the list of people that should be told to go fuck themselves, genocide supporters are pretty much right at the top of the list. If you've got a problem with that, consider not supporting genocide. Devil_May_Cry posted... anyone who doesnt toe the ideological far left line is a goose stepping Nazi amirite? No, but the people wearing swastikas are, and Trump's nationalistic and xenophobic rhetoric makes him exactly the sort of candidate they want to rally behind. Devil_May_Cry posted... Trump has numerous times condemned white supremacists. While continuing to court them and accept their support. Condemning them is largely a performative measure, given that I don't think even Trump could recover from publicly heiling Hitler (his cultists would stick with him, but he'd alienate too much of the general public to stand a chance). He doesn't necessarily agree with them, but they support him and he appreciates that because he appreciates anyone that strokes his massive, throbbing ego. Muscles posted... You could always vote 3rd party if you don't like Biden Voting third party is functionally identical to not voting, and thereby increases the chance of the person you want to vote against winning. Yes, if "everybody voted third party" that would change, but everybody isn't going to vote third party, not matter how much you want to cling to the idealistic fantasy that there's hope for a third party win. If you want electoral reform, you aren't going to make it happen at the ballot box. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:979091444] in god they'r... [t:80705526]...</cite> <quote>Devil_May_Cry posted... </cite><quote>Israel drops notes warning innocent civilians</quote>If I send you a letter telling you I'm going to burn your house down, I'm still an arsonist, and you're still homeless. I don't magically become a good guy and you don't magically stop being horribly victimized by my crimes just because I gave you a chance to not die in a fire.If we're really keeping with the analogy, though, I then also burned down the house of the friend you went to stay with and you still died. Whoopsie! But hey, at least I warned you about the first one, and that makes it okay.Devil_May_Cry posted... </cite><quote>The vast majority of Israelis want peace and prosperity for Palestinians and everyone</quote>I (and pretty much everyone else speaking on the matter) have made it pretty clear that when I say "Israel" in this context, I'm speaking of the country in terms of its government and actions on a national scale. Most Israeli citizens do indeed not want to commit genocide, as can be said about most Jewish people worldwide. Israel as a country, however, is doing exactly that, and that's bad.Devil_May_Cry posted... </cite><quote>For that last bit, I want you to know I reported you to our moderators who will most likely choose inaction because they do a terrible job.</quote>On the list of people that should be told to go fuck themselves, genocide supporters are pretty much right at the top of the list. If you've got a problem with that, consider not supporting genocide.Devil_May_Cry posted... </cite><quote>anyone who doesnt toe the ideological far left line is a goose stepping Nazi amirite?</quote>No, but the people wearing swastikas are, and Trump's nationalistic and xenophobic rhetoric makes him exactly the sort of candidate they want to rally behind.Devil_May_Cry posted... </cite><quote>Trump has numerous times condemned white supremacists.</quote>While continuing to court them and accept their support. Condemning them is largely a performative measure, given that I don't think even Trump could recover from publicly heiling Hitler (his cultists would stick with him, but he'd alienate too much of the general public to stand a chance). He doesn't necessarily agree with them, but they support him and he appreciates that because he appreciates anyone that strokes his massive, throbbing ego.Muscles posted... </cite><quote>You could always vote 3rd party if you don't like Biden</quote>Voting third party is functionally identical to not voting, and thereby increases the chance of the person you want to vote against winning. Yes, if "everybody voted third party" that would change, but everybody isn't going to vote third party, not matter how much you want to cling to the idealistic fantasy that there's hope for a third party win. If you want electoral reform, you aren't going to make it happen at the ballot box. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
OhhhJa 02/28/24 11:51:45 AM #81:	ConfusedTorchic posted... the star of david is just his butthole and i'm tired of pretending it's not Chocolate starfish of david <cite>OhhhJa posted [p:979091874] in god they'r... [t:80705526]...</cite> <quote>ConfusedTorchic posted... </cite><quote>the star of david is just his butthole and i'm tired of pretending it's not</quote>Chocolate starfish of david</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 02/29/24 8:31:21 PM #82:	@Devil_May_Cry https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/2/29/dozens-killed-injured-by-israeli-fire-in-gaza-while-collecting-food-aid How do you explain this? <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:979119871] in god they'r... [t:80705526]...</cite> <quote>@Devil_May_Cry https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/2/29/dozens-killed-injured-by-israeli-fire-in-gaza-while-collecting-food-aidHow do you explain this?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tarrun 02/29/24 10:12:46 PM #83:	https://www.reddit.com/r/TikTokCringe/comments/131d3zw/how_a_lot_of_people_feel_right_now/ Thank you for reminding me of this. <3 --- All good things must come to an end - preferably in a humongous explosion! <cite>Tarrun posted [p:979121366] in god they'r... [t:80705526]...</cite> <quote>https://www.reddit.com/r/TikTokCringe/comments/131d3zw/how_a_lot_of_people_feel_right_now/Thank you for reminding me of this. <3 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Devil_May_Cry 03/01/24 11:41:17 AM #84:	Jen0125 posted... @Devil_May_Cry https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/2/29/dozens-killed-injured-by-israeli-fire-in-gaza-while-collecting-food-aid How do you explain this? They were swarming and possibly scaring the military. Look at the clips. It wasnt organized at all there is chaos. It was wrong to fire on them but I understand passions were high in the moment so have compassion for the IDF please <cite>Devil_May_Cry posted [p:979129762] in god they'r... [t:80705526]...</cite> <quote>Jen0125 posted... </cite><quote>@Devil_May_Cry https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/2/29/dozens-killed-injured-by-israeli-fire-in-gaza-while-collecting-food-aidHow do you explain this?</quote>They were swarming and possibly scaring the military. Look at the clips. It wasnt organized at all there is chaos.It was wrong to fire on them but I understand passions were high in the moment so have compassion for the IDF please</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 03/01/24 11:41:57 AM #85:	Devil_May_Cry posted... They were swarming and possibly scaring the military. Look at the clips. It wasnt organized at all there is chaos. It was wrong to fire on them but I understand passions were high in the moment so have compassion for the IDF please LMAO The military was scared of unarmed starving people? You're a very weak person. <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:979129778] in god they'r... [t:80705526]...</cite> <quote>Devil_May_Cry posted... </cite><quote>They were swarming and possibly scaring the military. Look at the clips. It wasnt organized at all there is chaos.It was wrong to fire on them but I understand passions were high in the moment so have compassion for the IDF please</quote>LMAOThe military was scared of unarmed starving people? You're a very weak person. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 03/01/24 12:03:53 PM #86:	Man, I really hate when I get startled and accidentally drive tanks over a hundred dying unarmed civilians. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:979130160] in god they'r... [t:80705526]...</cite> <quote>Man, I really hate when I get startled and accidentally drive tanks over a hundred dying unarmed civilians. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 03/01/24 12:11:12 PM #87:	adjl posted... Man, I really hate when I get startled and accidentally drive tanks over a hundred dying unarmed civilians. I was waiting for you to read that absolute insanity lol <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:979130259] in god they'r... [t:80705526]...</cite> <quote>adjl posted... </cite><quote>Man, I really hate when I get startled and accidentally drive tanks over a hundred dying unarmed civilians.</quote>I was waiting for you to read that absolute insanity lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 03/01/24 3:26:13 PM #88:	Lmao he deleted his post or it got modded. <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:979133685] in god they'r... [t:80705526]...</cite> <quote>Lmao he deleted his post or it got modded. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 03/01/24 3:29:00 PM #89:	More like Tiananmen Scared, mirite? --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:979133729] in god they'r... [t:80705526]...</cite> <quote>More like Tiananmen Scared, mirite? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 03/01/24 3:32:01 PM #90:	I just can't believe he typed that and actually posted it. <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:979133773] in god they'r... [t:80705526]...</cite> <quote>I just can't believe he typed that and actually posted it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Devil_May_Cry 03/01/24 4:12:18 PM #91:	We all make mistakes is what I should have said. Should Americans be crucified for what bush did after 9-11? <cite>Devil_May_Cry posted [p:979134449] in god they'r... [t:80705526]...</cite> <quote>We all make mistakes is what I should have said. Should Americans be crucified for what bush did after 9-11? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 03/01/24 4:38:57 PM #92:	Devil_May_Cry posted... Should Americans be crucified for what bush did after 9-11? adjl posted... I (and pretty much everyone else speaking on the matter) have made it pretty clear that when I say "Israel" in this context, I'm speaking of the country in terms of its government and actions on a national scale. Again with the "not all Israelis" strawman. Being critical of the government and military does not mean "crucifying" Israeli citizens who are in no way responsible for the actions of the government and military. As outlined in a previous post, the comparison to America's actions post-9/11 also doesn't particularly favour Israel. America killed orders of magnitude fewer civilians per unit of time and had significantly more enemy combatant kills to show for it, following an attack that killed more American civilians in a matter of hours than Hamas has killed Israeli citizens since the country came into existence. And America has been thoroughly criticized for the amount of collateral damage they caused, and in recognition of that damage they put ample resources into providing humanitarian aid and helping to rebuild damaged infrastructure. That's a far cry from insisting that there's nothing wrong with massacring civilians by the tens of thousands in search of a handful of alleged terrorists and destroying critical infrastructure without a hint of remorse or accountability, then turning around and begging the rest of the world for their allowance so they can afford to keep doing so. Devil_May_Cry posted... We all make mistakes is what I should have said. Speak for yourself. I personally have never shot a thousand starving homeless people as they lined up to get food after I bombed their homes, jobs, fields, and medical facilities to ash, so I'm afraid I can't really sympathize with that particular brand of "mistake." Nor do I have any intention of doing so. Collateral damage in the heat of battle is bad, but understandable and potentially justifiable. Mass murder in a non-combat situation that just wasn't calm enough for your liking? That's just plain old mass murder. Heck, even if it were just collateral damage, if it's even possible to accidentally shoot a thousand innocent civilians that possibility alone is reason not to engage because whatever you might accomplish with the assault does not justify collateral damage on that scale. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:979134873] in god they'r... [t:80705526]...</cite> <quote>Devil_May_Cry posted... </cite><quote>Should Americans be crucified for what bush did after 9-11?</quote>adjl posted... </cite><quote>I (and pretty much everyone else speaking on the matter) have made it pretty clear that when I say "Israel" in this context, I'm speaking of the country in terms of its government and actions on a national scale.</quote>Again with the "not all Israelis" strawman. Being critical of the government and military does not mean "crucifying" Israeli citizens who are in no way responsible for the actions of the government and military.As outlined in a previous post, the comparison to America's actions post-9/11 also doesn't particularly favour Israel. America killed orders of magnitude fewer civilians per unit of time and had significantly more enemy combatant kills to show for it, following an attack that killed more American civilians in a matter of hours than Hamas has killed Israeli citizens since the country came into existence. And America has been thoroughly criticized for the amount of collateral damage they caused, and in recognition of that damage they put ample resources into providing humanitarian aid and helping to rebuild damaged infrastructure. That's a far cry from insisting that there's nothing wrong with massacring civilians by the tens of thousands in search of a handful of alleged terrorists and destroying critical infrastructure without a hint of remorse or accountability, then turning around and begging the rest of the world for their allowance so they can afford to keep doing so.Devil_May_Cry posted... </cite><quote>We all make mistakes is what I should have said.</quote>Speak for yourself. I personally have never shot a thousand starving homeless people as they lined up to get food after I bombed their homes, jobs, fields, and medical facilities to ash, so I'm afraid I can't really sympathize with that particular brand of "mistake." Nor do I have any intention of doing so.Collateral damage in the heat of battle is bad, but understandable and potentially justifiable. Mass murder in a non-combat situation that just wasn't calm enough for your liking? That's just plain old mass murder. Heck, even if it were just collateral damage, if it's even possible to accidentally shoot a thousand innocent civilians that possibility alone is reason not to engage because whatever you might accomplish with the assault does not justify collateral damage on that scale. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 03/01/24 5:00:04 PM #93:	Devil_May_Cry posted... We all make mistakes is what I should have said. Should Americans be crucified for what bush did after 9-11? Should Palestinians be gunned down for trying to get donated flour? <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:979135250] in god they'r... [t:80705526]...</cite> <quote>Devil_May_Cry posted... </cite><quote>We all make mistakes is what I should have said. Should Americans be crucified for what bush did after 9-11?</quote>Should Palestinians be gunned down for trying to get donated flour? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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adjl 03/01/24 9:28:28 PM #95:	BoomerKuwanger posted... Imagine being able to draw the parallel between Israel now and America after 9/11 and still missing the point entirely lmao Like does he not think there was anything wrong with America's post-9/11 response? --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:979139439] in god they'r... [t:80705526]...</cite> <quote>BoomerKuwanger posted... </cite><quote>Imagine being able to draw the parallel between Israel now and America after 9/11 and still missing the point entirely lmao</quote>Like does he not think there was anything wrong with America's post-9/11 response? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Devil_May_Cry 03/02/24 12:25:40 AM #96:	if your family was in danger of being blown up by rockets and you had the opportunity to kill the ones targeting your family but there are innocent people around them would you take them out still? If you say no to collateral damage than you dont care as much about your family or country as you thought <cite>Devil_May_Cry posted [p:979141652] in god they'r... [t:80705526]...</cite> <quote>if your family was in danger of being blown up by rockets and you had the opportunity to kill the ones targeting your family but there are innocent people around them would you take them out still?If you say no to collateral damage than you dont care as much about your family or country as you thought</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Devil_May_Cry 03/02/24 12:30:22 AM #97:	Jen0125 posted... Should Palestinians be gunned down for trying to get donated flour? Could you stop it with your gatcha framing of a tragedy to score political points I feel like I aim shaving my nuts with a machete talking to you people <cite>Devil_May_Cry posted [p:979141703] in god they'r... [t:80705526]...</cite> <quote>Jen0125 posted... </cite><quote>Should Palestinians be gunned down for trying to get donated flour?</quote>Could you stop it with your gatcha framing of a tragedy to score political pointsI feel like I aim shaving my nuts with a machete talking to you people</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 03/02/24 1:03:56 AM #98:	Devil_May_Cry posted... Could you stop it with your gatcha framing of a tragedy to score political points I feel like I aim shaving my nuts with a machete talking to you people I'm asking you direct questions based on your prior posts. So, you can ask if Americans should be hypothetically crucified but I can't ask you if you feel that Palestinians should be killed for trying to get their donated flour?? I'm asking you to morally justify these actions since you wholeheartedly back the IDF. You need to justify this. <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:979142026] in god they'r... [t:80705526]...</cite> <quote>Devil_May_Cry posted... </cite><quote>Could you stop it with your gatcha framing of a tragedy to score political pointsI feel like I aim shaving my nuts with a machete talking to you people</quote>I'm asking you direct questions based on your prior posts. So, you can ask if Americans should be hypothetically crucified but I can't ask you if you feel that Palestinians should be killed for trying to get their donated flour?? I'm asking you to morally justify these actions since you wholeheartedly back the IDF. You need to justify this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Devil_May_Cry 03/02/24 1:23:15 AM #99:	Jen0125 posted... I'm asking you direct questions based on your prior posts. So, you can ask if Americans should be hypothetically crucified but I can't ask you if you feel that Palestinians should be killed for trying to get their donated flour?? I'm asking you to morally justify these actions since you wholeheartedly back the IDF. You need to justify this. no but have you ever watched the movie Die Hard ~~the cop who sides with John mclane shot a kid with a toy gun in the past~~ seeing a threat can cause trigger fingers. These idf people firing on the swarm of Palestinians erratically demanding food need better training. The Palestinians should have been more orderly and peaceful though <cite>Devil_May_Cry posted [p:979142192] in god they'r... [t:80705526]...</cite> <quote>Jen0125 posted... </cite><quote>I'm asking you direct questions based on your prior posts. So, you can ask if Americans should be hypothetically crucified but I can't ask you if you feel that Palestinians should be killed for trying to get their donated flour?? I'm asking you to morally justify these actions since you wholeheartedly back the IDF. You need to justify this.</quote>no but have you ever watched the movie Die Hard the cop who sides with John mclane shot a kid with a toy gun in the pastseeing a threat can cause trigger fingers. These idf people firing on the swarm of Palestinians erratically demanding food need better training. The Palestinians should have been more orderly and peaceful though</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125 03/02/24 1:29:58 AM #100:	Devil_May_Cry posted... no but have you ever watched the movie Die Hard ~~the cop who sides with John mclane shot a kid with a toy gun in the past~~ seeing a threat can cause trigger fingers. These idf people firing on the swarm of Palestinians erratically demanding food need better training. The Palestinians should have been more orderly and peaceful though This isn't a movie. This is a real life genocide. Stop trolling. You're saying really disgusting things. <cite>Jen0125 posted [p:979142244] in god they'r... [t:80705526]...</cite> <quote>Devil_May_Cry posted... </cite><quote>no but have you ever watched the movie Die Hard the cop who sides with John mclane shot a kid with a toy gun in the pastseeing a threat can cause trigger fingers. These idf people firing on the swarm of Palestinians erratically demanding food need better training. The Palestinians should have been more orderly and peaceful though</quote>This isn't a movie. This is a real life genocide. Stop trolling. You're saying really disgusting things. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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