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adjl posted...

What's really annoying is that I get it: A huge factor in the "success" of the Holocaust and the other ways in which the Nazis oppressed Jews was a strong undercurrent of casual antisemitism throughout all of Europe. Hitler didn't show up as some antisemitic asshole out of nowhere, he just represented the extreme of the the antisemitism most people felt. It wasn't until the extent of the Nazis atrocities came to light that the rest of the world realized just how bad the antisemitism they thought nothing of had gotten, and to that end I fully understand why people are hesitant to disapprove of Israel: Even if it seems reasonable to them, they've seen what can happen with the free pass that's afforded by reasonably (in their eyes) thinking ill of Jews, and they don't want that to happen again.

The reality, of course, is that such matters are significantly more complex than just "don't be mean to Jews," but I do believe that most pro-Israel people at least mean well. It's just really frustrating to see intelligent, well-meaning people just drop the issue at "I don't want to be antisemitic" or "Hamas is a terrorist organization" when there's so much more to it than that and arming Israel is so blatantly complicit in a horrific genocide. Avoiding antisemitism is good, but not when that anti-antisemitism prevents you from recognizing and responding appropriately to cases when somebody who happens to be Jewish is doing something wrong.

Yeah my beef is with Zionists, not Jewish people as a whole. People that ignore the distinction are either ignorant or acting in bad faith.