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NeonOPPAl 02/23/24 2:42:26 PM #1: |
It's supposed to learn Fire Blast at level 51, but a programmer made an error and accidentally had it learn Leer because their index numbers or whatever are right next to each other
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PraxagoraKassan 02/23/24 2:44:31 PM #2: |
Fire chicken...
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PowerOats 02/23/24 2:45:19 PM #3: |
dont know why but I appreciate the pokemon lore from neon ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Irony 02/23/24 2:46:57 PM #4: |
Hopefully that programmer was fired and never got a job again
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C_Pain 02/23/24 2:47:22 PM #6: |
Feel like all of gen 1 is a programming oversight
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kage_53 02/23/24 2:48:09 PM #7: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] It was a tm that could only be gotten after beating Blaine. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 02/23/24 2:48:25 PM #8: |
C_Pain posted...
Feel like all of gen 1 is a programming oversightBadge Boost Glitch --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AngelsNAirwav3s 02/23/24 2:48:43 PM #9: |
Makes sense, Zapdos got Thunder at 51 and Articuno gets Blizzard at 51, but Moltres gets fucking Leer at 51 lol
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Dakimakura 02/23/24 2:49:13 PM #10: |
God makes mistakes
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Kaldrenthebold 02/23/24 2:49:53 PM #11: |
ArticUNO, ZapDOS, MolTRES
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pojr 02/23/24 2:50:19 PM #12: |
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It was a one-time only TM. Once you taught it to a pokmon, you no longer had access to it. --- pojr I summon it. You spell it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ViewtifulJoe 02/23/24 2:50:38 PM #13: |
On the bright side I heard people eventually started using Moltres in old gens' OU.
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Agent_Stroud 02/23/24 2:51:47 PM #15: |
It feels like Gen 1 was held together with twine and chewing gum the more we learn about how al dente the spaghetti code actually was. Glad Game Freak has learned how to properly program since then.
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b_nolan 02/23/24 2:52:13 PM #16: |
I want to know why Aerodactyl doesn't get rock slide in gen 1
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Agent_Stroud 02/23/24 2:53:02 PM #17: |
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It is in Gen 2. --- "We're going to shake things up, Morgan. Like old times." -- Alex Yu, Prey (2017) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HylianFox 02/23/24 2:53:56 PM #18: |
Gen 1 was so buggy it's amazing these game ever got popular
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Philip027 02/23/24 2:55:55 PM #19: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Only the one Fire Blast TM (from Blaine) was available. In fact, this was the only Fire-type TM move in gen 1. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Srk700 02/23/24 3:01:34 PM #20: |
It's wild how Pokemon became such a massive success when the 1st game was such a mess of programming lol. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ellis123 02/23/24 3:02:59 PM #21: |
Srk700 posted...
It's wild how Pokemon became such a massive success when the 1st game was such a mess of programming lol.It was back during the time when no one gave a crap about glitches, so it makes sense. --- "A shouted order to do something of dubious morality with an unpredictable outcome? Thweeet!" My FC is in my profile. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SuperSaiyanTien 02/23/24 3:07:08 PM #22: |
NeonOPPAl posted...
It's supposed to learn Fire Blast at level 51, but a programmer made an error and accidentally had it learn Leer because their index numbers or whatever are right next to each other Interestingly enough, despite them fixing some movesets from R/B/G to Yellow, they didn't fix Moltres in Yellow. --- "Well, maybe the Dirt Dragon should have thought about that before taking over the opera house." - Lord_Bob_Bree ... Copied to Clipboard!
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inTaCtfuL 02/23/24 3:07:11 PM #23: |
Moltres moveset got better because of that oversight though. It could learn Fire Blast through TM. It would never have learned Leer otherwise. Getting an additional move is better than not getting that additional move tbh
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FL81 02/23/24 3:07:28 PM #24: |
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Fire Blast, yes. Flamethrower on the other hand, could only be put onto Moltres by trading back from Gen 2. --- https://i.imgur.com/TGkNCva.gif https://i.imgur.com/8mWCvA4.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IceCreamOnStero 02/23/24 3:07:35 PM #25: |
ViewtifulJoe posted...
On the bright side I heard people eventually started using Moltres in old gens' OU.In Gen 1 Fire Spin is also involved since Burn + trapping moves are surprisingly good. In Gen 3 it's bread and butter is Fire Blast but its only so good because Fire is a pretty good offensive typing against some of the nastier mons in the tier, and it has Will-o-Wisp to back it up --- Dokkan ID: 2365415872 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doe 02/23/24 3:10:49 PM #26: |
Moltres, Zapdos, Articuno
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TheGoldenEel 02/23/24 3:11:48 PM #27: |
Irony posted...
Hopefully that programmer was fired and never got a job againThats a QA issue tbh --- BLACK LIVES MATTER Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NeonOPPAl 02/23/24 3:12:30 PM #28: |
PowerOats posted...
dont know why but I appreciate the pokemon lore from neonhttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/7/7e4905db.jpg I just love Gen 1 Pokemon for all its quirks --- https://imgur.com/aMaI3hj https://imgur.com/7PsdJNc https://imgur.com/eK8vZVn https://imgur.com/u2HR4nG https://imgur.com/nQGM5cZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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YugiNoob 02/23/24 3:15:32 PM #29: |
Get fucked fire chicken
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Trumble 02/23/24 3:17:16 PM #30: |
Agent_Stroud posted...
It feels like Gen 1 was held together with twine and chewing gum the more we learn about how al dente the spaghetti code actually was. Glad Game Freak has learned how to properly program since then.Back then, a lot of the weird coding (not this particular case which was basically the code equivalent of a typo, but speaking generally) was simply being creative in order to work within the limits of the hardware. --- Chicken butt. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 02/23/24 3:19:39 PM #31: |
Srk700 posted... It's wild how Pokemon became such a massive success when the 1st game was such a mess of programming lol. Palworld truly is a spiritual successor ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Butterfiles 02/23/24 3:20:29 PM #32: |
Irony posted...
Hopefully that programmer was fired and never got a job againThere would be no programmers if this happened --- http://www.last.fm/user/PigBun CEO of Antifa ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Irony 02/23/24 3:21:19 PM #33: |
Butterfiles posted...
There would be no programmers if this happenedThe way God intended --- See profile pic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Returning_CEmen 02/23/24 3:24:38 PM #34: |
HylianFox posted...
Gen 1 was so buggy it's amazing these game ever got popularWe were all dumb kids that didnt know any better and it was still fun. --- Genius, Thousandaire, Playboy, Philanthropist ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 02/23/24 3:25:05 PM #35: |
leer is god-tier legendary move confirmed ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wanderingshade 02/23/24 3:35:29 PM #36: |
There's all sorts of shit like that in Gen 1. Like the Toxic move messing with leech seed. And speed affecting crit rate. Also Psychic is supposed to be weak to Ghost move, but they're actually completely immune.
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NeonOPPAl 02/23/24 3:36:42 PM #37: |
wanderingshade posted...
There's all sorts of shit like that in Gen 1. Like the Toxic move messing with leech seed. And speed affecting crit rate. Also Psychic is supposed to be weak to Ghost move, but they're actually completely immune.Even if the ghost immunity was corrected, literally the only damaging ghost move is Lick. Psychics are shaking in their boots over that >_> --- https://imgur.com/aMaI3hj https://imgur.com/7PsdJNc https://imgur.com/eK8vZVn https://imgur.com/u2HR4nG https://imgur.com/nQGM5cZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jshipp24 02/23/24 4:21:14 PM #38: |
I'm playing Pokemon Yellow currently and honestly unless you're really paying attention to them most glitches you probably wouldn't notice on a casual playthrough. Somethings are dumb/weird/broken in retrospect but they're still playable games.
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Kuuko 02/23/24 4:24:25 PM #39: |
Moltres has always been by far the worst of the three birds anyway.
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pokedude900 02/23/24 4:25:17 PM #40: |
In gen 1, if you level up a Pikachu or Eevee during battle and end that fight with your Growlithe on the field, they'll evolve. This is because Growlithe shares its index number with the Thunderstone.
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pokedude900 02/23/24 4:27:05 PM #41: |
Jshipp24 posted...
I'm playing Pokemon Yellow currently and honestly unless you're really paying attention to them most glitches you probably wouldn't notice on a casual playthrough. Somethings are dumb/weird/broken in retrospect but they're still playable games. Here's a fun one. Try going to the Pewter City Pokemon Center and talking to the Jigglypuff. Then, without talking to Pikachu, go over by the Cable Club and walk up and down for a few minutes. The game will corrupt itself because it REALLY doesn't like Pikachu being offscreen. --- https://i.imgur.com/lfI7zGE.jpg https://i.imgur.com/tgLNUuX.jpg Come to the (un)official GameFAQs Touhou board. http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1110- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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rexcrk 02/23/24 4:31:19 PM #42: |
100% accuracy though --- I'll trade with anyone that has a jacuuuuzziiiii ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dameon_reaper 02/23/24 4:41:03 PM #43: |
HylianFox posted... Gen 1 was so buggy it's amazing these game ever got popular games are still really good fun and the pokemon anime really helped. It was around the time that there were neopets and all kinds of other collectible monsters too. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Phantom_Nook 02/23/24 4:50:33 PM #45: |
Body Slam can't paralyze Normal Pokemon.
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Doe 02/23/24 5:02:39 PM #46: |
Phantom_Nook posted...
Body Slam can't paralyze Normal Pokemon.Is that intentionally hard coded in or an accident? --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DrizztLink 02/23/24 5:04:25 PM #47: |
Doe posted...
Is that intentionally hard coded in or an accident?Are there other Normal moves that cause paralysis in that gen? It could just be they somehow spread the "you can't paralyze an Electric type with TW" and accidentally spread it to other types/attacks. No idea how they would do that but this is Gen One, literally anything is on the table. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doe 02/23/24 5:07:22 PM #48: |
So this thread covers it in addition to being an interesting read of people realizing in real time the simulation of a 20 years old metagame had been wrong thus redefining meta strategies.
https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/normal-types-cannot-be-paralyzed-by-body-slam.3525371/ The game is coded so an X type move cannot cause a secondary status condition to an X type Pokmon. --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mystereave 02/23/24 5:08:21 PM #49: |
Doe posted... Is that intentionally hard coded in or an accident? Moves in Gen 1 are coded to not be able to inflict status on Pokemon of the same type. Ostensibly, this is so that Electric types can't be paralyzed with Thunder Wave and the like. Body Slam just happens to be the only move in Gen 1 that can inflict a status not normally tied to its type (edit: and Twinneedle). ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DrizztLink 02/23/24 5:08:22 PM #50: |
I fucking called it
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