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masterbarf
02/22/24 6:53:35 PM
#51:


hitokoriX posted...
Man I swear lol. There is nothing wrong with engaging in conversation with people in public. If she don't wanna talk, move on. If the situation above actually happened, there has to be more to it.


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Glob
02/22/24 6:55:53 PM
#52:


bigblu89 posted...
The tweet literally says that she was OK with the interaction.

Fair enough. I stand corrected. I only read what was visible in the first post. I dont ever click on Twitter links.

However, I do feel that my point in general terms still stands. Its not that men cant approach women. The problem is that so many of them do it wrong and then blame other people for their failings.
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xGhostchantx
02/22/24 6:57:37 PM
#53:


Glob posted...
I only read what was visible in the first post

You and everyone else, lol. That's not an indictment of you, specifically, just that generally people don't bother to read whole articles much of the time these days. Bit sad.

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Cruciferous
02/22/24 6:58:09 PM
#54:


Hinakuluiau posted...
People should be allowed to exist in public spaces without having to indulge in strangers desires to interact. The last thing I want to do while grocery shopping is discuss my favorite brand of chips
people say this but studies show most people appreciate small convo during commutes and such

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Glob
02/22/24 6:58:28 PM
#55:


xGhostchantx posted...
You and everyone else, lol. That's not an indictment of you, specifically, just that generally people don't bother to read whole articles much of the time these days. Bit sad.

In fairness, if it wasnt a twitter link, I probably would have.
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action52
02/22/24 7:00:35 PM
#56:


Tenlaar posted...
They were wrong.
The tweet very strongly implies they weren't wrong, and that the daughter was very grateful to the staff.

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02/22/24 7:01:57 PM
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luigi33
02/22/24 7:03:27 PM
#57:


bigblu89 posted...
Topics like this make me thank god that Im married.
For sure. Jesus I'm happy I don't have to deal with the terrible nightmare that is modern dating.

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Glob
02/22/24 7:07:21 PM
#58:


luigi33 posted...
For sure. Jesus I'm happy I don't have to deal with the terrible nightmare that is modern dating.

I thought that and then was thrust into it again a couple of years ago. It really wasnt bad at all. I think the big difference is that all the people who would have previously sucked at it now have online soapboxes on which to blame everybody but themselves for their lack of success, so they suck the same amount as before but are louder about it.
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Tenlaar
02/22/24 7:08:46 PM
#59:


action52 posted...
The tweet very strongly implies they weren't wrong, and that the daughter was very grateful to the staff.
The tweet flat out states that they were wrong, no implications about it.
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
02/22/24 7:11:55 PM
#60:


Men really do need to stop approaching women, the average guy is just seen as a creep and the hassle of having the cops called on you or being publicly kicked out just for talking to a woman is not worth the trouble.

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Glob
02/22/24 7:15:12 PM
#61:


RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...
Men really do need to stop approaching women, the average guy is just seen as a creep and the hassle of having the cops called on you or being publicly kicked out just for talking to a woman is not worth the trouble.

If people are calling the cops because you tried to initiate a conversation with a woman, you did something wrong.
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Cruciferous
02/22/24 7:18:39 PM
#63:


Glob posted...
I thought that and then was thrust into it again a couple of years ago. It really wasnt bad at all. I think the big difference is that all the people who would have previously sucked at it now have online soapboxes on which to blame everybody but themselves for their lack of success, so they suck the same amount as before but are louder about it.
lol too on the nose. nobody will accept this.

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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
02/22/24 7:20:26 PM
#64:


No has not happened to me but I have heard a few news reports of it happening.

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Glob
02/22/24 7:22:05 PM
#65:


Cruciferous posted...
lol too on the nose. nobody will accept this.

They dont need to. Doesnt change its validity.
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Cruciferous
02/22/24 7:23:10 PM
#66:


Glob posted...
They dont need to. Doesnt change its validity.
Sure, but it's a little sad.
I wish I could personally befriend some CEmen to show them the error of their ways.

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Dark_Arbron
02/22/24 7:49:23 PM
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Heck, just once even.

Glob posted...
If people are calling the cops because you tried to initiate a conversation with a woman, you did something wrong.

This.

Also lets not forget who TC is. I dont even need to read the link to know theres likely some bullshit going on here.

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Glob
02/22/24 7:53:29 PM
#70:


Cruciferous posted...
Sure, but it's a little sad.
I wish I could personally befriend some CEmen to show them the error of their ways.

When it comes to stuff like this, you can only help people who are open to it. Many arent because it means accepting that their problems come from them and its easier to blame an external force, such as societal expectations, chads or literally everybody with a vagina.
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pojr
02/22/24 7:55:24 PM
#71:


hitokoriX posted...
Man I swear lol. There is nothing wrong with engaging in conversation with people in public. If she don't wanna talk, move on. If the situation above actually happened, there has to be more to it.
I think the problem is poor social queues

The girl doesn't want to say no because it seems rude to her, and the guy is missing all the signals that she's not interested

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bigblu89
02/22/24 7:55:28 PM
#72:


action52 posted...
The tweet very strongly implies they weren't wrong, and that the daughter was very grateful to the staff.

The tweet literally states the opposite.

Side note: She felt safe and did not remove the lid, but let them know.

So the guy wasnt creeping her out and she didnt need saving.

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action52
02/22/24 7:57:43 PM
#73:


Tenlaar posted...
The tweet flat out states that they were wrong, no implications about it.
If the girl or her mother thought the staff was out of line, the tweet would have said so. This guy didn't put her in danger, but the tweet was praising the staff for looking out for her rather than complaining they should mind their own business. This implies that the girl was at the very least uncomfortable and grateful that the staff had her back in case he tried to escalate things. And maybe them giving her an extra extra drink to pretend she was waiting for someone is what made this (unwelcome) guy back off.

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Tenlaar
02/22/24 7:59:29 PM
#75:


action52 posted...
This implies that the girl was at the very least uncomfortable
It does not remotely imply that.
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pojr
02/22/24 8:00:15 PM
#76:


To answer the question of the topic, I don't think coffee shops are an appropriate place to approach women. People are not there to socialize, they're there to meet with existing friends or to use their Wi-Fi.

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action52
02/22/24 8:05:50 PM
#78:


Tenlaar posted...
It does not remotely imply that.
If she wasn't glad that the staff did that for her, why was the tweet lavishing praise on the staff and thanking them for it? How does that not imply she thought they were doing a good thing?

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VideoboysaysCube
02/22/24 8:19:55 PM
#83:


The tweet says the guy started "talking" to her. Is that the baseline for predatory behavior now? Well, better lock me up because I went beyond saying hello to the hostess when picking up my food the other day. I asked her how her day was going! I sure hope I didn't make her feel endangered in any way.

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action52
02/22/24 8:23:18 PM
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Even then, though, the staff still made the right call.

Tenlaar literally said the staff was wrong.

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Antiyonder
02/22/24 8:31:22 PM
#87:


I'd say a lot of the victim blaming or lack of sympathy for the proven victims in the 2010s makes such caution understandable.

Think about it. If a woman is cautious you tell her to lighten up, but if she is assaulted the you suddenly tell her not to be so sexy or easy.

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_____Cait
02/22/24 8:33:39 PM
#88:


Dont take dating advice from CE.

A lot the people on here post creepy stories about their stalking, about how they abuse their gfs, or if they are wrong for doing all kinds of dumb things.

If it feels wrong, and the girl doesnt want to be approached, dont do it,

Not surprised by the board who wonders why girls dont like them, while also saying things that girls actively try to avoid,

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ClayGuida
02/22/24 8:35:58 PM
#90:


We don't know how the interaction went.

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Antiyonder
02/22/24 8:37:50 PM
#91:


@_____Cait
A lot the people on here post creepy stories about their stalking, about how they abuse their gfs, or if they are wrong for doing all kinds of dumb things.

If it feels wrong, and the girl doesnt want to be approached, dont do it,

Not surprised by the board who wonders why girls dont like them, while also saying things that girls actively try to avoid,

This, but all too often it's like with any complaints people have with sensitivity. They seem to think it's enough not to be well in this case predatory, but seem fine sticking up for those who don't have such restraints.

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Noname13
02/22/24 8:44:39 PM
#92:


Tbh, you know if you have the rizz to pull off asking a girl out at a coffee shop

and you know if you don t

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Prototypic
02/22/24 8:49:15 PM
#93:


I don't think there's anything wrong with incidental conversations with people who happen to be around when you're going about your day, but some people take it too far, being pushy or failing to pick up on signs the other person isn't interested. I'm fairly introverted and not at all interested in talking to random strangers and so I get that it can be annoying being approached in public, but I also don't think a society where we forbid any kind of social interaction by strangers in public places is the right approach.

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Naysaspace
02/22/24 8:57:07 PM
#94:


Coming in cold like a creep is weird but if you catch a glance and use some judgement and do it above board, no problem.

I did that the other day. Didnt get a number but we chatted about Ontario for 15 mins before i left. That being said, it was my exs sisters friend, we'd met once before and recognised one another

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rexcrk
02/22/24 9:02:57 PM
#95:




As long as youre hot! Tee hee

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LightningThief
02/22/24 9:24:32 PM
#96:


I didn't read the tweet or OP.

I'm just answering the initial question. Yes. Nothing wrong with approaching a fully grown, legal, adult woman at a coffee shop

Just be respectful, and understand to back off if she voices she is not interested.
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mehmeh1
02/22/24 9:31:30 PM
#97:


TheShadowViper posted...
A lot of people not only go to coffee shops to people watch, but to engage with others.
tbh I genuinely don't understand this. Maybe because when something is food related I like to focus on, well, the food, so to me going to a coffee shop or a caf on your own is just to eat/drink, nothing more (and this goes for both men and women)

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luigi33
02/22/24 9:37:58 PM
#98:


Glob posted...
I thought that and then was thrust into it again a couple of years ago. It really wasnt bad at all. I think the big difference is that all the people who would have previously sucked at it now have online soapboxes on which to blame everybody but themselves for their lack of success, so they suck the same amount as before but are louder about it.
I don't think thats all of it though. Something systemic is going on and it isn't just "bootstraps".

Like I'm not saying the people you mention don't exist. They've existed before too. But its just a -LOT- more of them at a much greater rat nowadays compared to even mid-late Millennial generation let alone Boomers/GenX.

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Glob
02/22/24 9:49:09 PM
#99:


luigi33 posted...
I don't think thats all of it though. Something systemic is going on and it isn't just "bootstraps".

Like I'm not saying the people you mention don't exist. They've existed before too. But its just a -LOT- more of them at a much greater rat nowadays compared to even mid-late Millennial generation let alone Boomers/GenX.

Yes, peoples social skills and situational awareness seem to be decreasing, but thats down to individuals to address. If people avoid social interaction then its not surprising that they dont pick up those skills.

Thats not really the dating game changing though, so much as people lacking in social skills in greater numbers.
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Glob
02/22/24 9:50:13 PM
#100:


BoomerKuwanger posted...
Yeah but it's kinda different cause this post implies you had prior dating experience. That doesn't change the dating pool at all for you, but definitely affects your confidence and approach.

Being a grown adult who knows little or nothing about dating makes it a pretty humiliating experience. I can definitely relate to wanting it to be easier, and it would be naive not to act like dating dynamics have changed, but agree that looking for external factors to blame won't ever get you anywhere

Of course I had prior experience; I was 35 at the time.
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