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SpiritSephiroth
02/19/24 9:18:39 PM
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Most of social media is filled with bots.

Overtime all websites and traffic were condensed to major ones like Reddit, Twitter ect, smaller websites with smaller (more real) communities are rare or no longer exist

Google search results are algorithm controlled, boosting sites primarily for clicks. In those sites contain articles that arent even written by real people.

Bot farming, bot likes, bot accounts, bot followers.

It's probably one of the big reasons why I like CE. Smaller forums like this are filled with real people. And are not filled with garbage bots baiting for views.

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Cruciferous
02/19/24 9:19:37 PM
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I really feel like this is happening, but on a muuuuch smaller scale than people who buy into this theory presume.


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BlueKat
02/19/24 9:22:51 PM
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Cruciferous posted...
I really feel like this is happening, but on a muuuuch smaller scale than people who buy into this theory presume.
I think this might be the first time I agree with you on something

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SpiritSephiroth
02/19/24 9:23:16 PM
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Cruciferous posted...
I really feel like this is happening, but on a muuuuch smaller scale than people who buy into this theory presume.

I think for now. I believe social media will lead to a downfall of REAL traffic. More and more bots will begin to take over. It's one of the reasons why all my Facebook friends have privated their profiles, to protect themselves from hackers and data breaches.

Ive started to see this happen on Instagram too. More bots, and more people putting their profiles into protect. Soon we're going to see them divert to smaller communities and then social media will have its downfall.

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SpiritSephiroth
02/19/24 9:24:58 PM
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Also AI will contribute to the dead internet theory. We have already seen this happen with accounts that act like real human beings. But do a bit of digging and you'll find something crazy.

There are already a lot of youtubers covering this phenomenon, looking into these accounts and all their posts.

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Cruciferous
02/19/24 9:26:45 PM
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BlueKat posted...
I think this might be the first time I agree with you on something
we probably agree on a lot more than you think
i just enjoy being an idiot online

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kirbymuncher
02/19/24 9:30:17 PM
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I don't know exactly how far into this you have to be to truly count as believing it, but I do agree with basically every statement in the OP and the general concept of the theory

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02/20/24 6:04:01 PM
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SpiritSephiroth
02/20/24 7:20:31 PM
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>_>
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Naysaspace
02/20/24 7:21:33 PM
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most, no. a lot? yes.

but the mentality has grown amongst regular normal people who have this irrational paranoia about bots. See: every single key giveaway topic on this site. some people just can't stomache that they got to the party late! "how could any human beat ME at getting that free key!? IMPOSSIBLE!"

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GuerrillaSoldier
02/20/24 7:23:02 PM
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i wouldn't call that "dead internet", i would call that "fake social media"


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SpiritSephiroth
02/20/24 8:37:10 PM
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GuerrillaSoldier posted...
i wouldn't call that "dead internet", i would call that "fake social media"

Its affecting more than social media, most websites nowadays are owned by massive corporations which the majority of people flock to and use. Its condensed compared to before where there used to be so many gems out there to find.

I guess thats what happens when the masses use the net. It becomes commercialized.

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Dark_Arbron
02/20/24 8:39:11 PM
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Even before bots and AI became a thing, automated spam was everywhere. The old 90% of the in the internet is porn thing? Its not true. 90% of internet traffic is spam.

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viewmaster_pi
02/20/24 8:43:11 PM
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it's actually insane how many bot accounts are on facebook. find some shitty video with like 10k likes, and all the comments are just variations of amazing, amazing, anzing, beautiful, amazig, baetiful, amzaing, beautiful, so beautiful, so amazging, etc. or like random nature picture pages posting AI pics, you can't tell at all if anything is real

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Nemu
02/20/24 8:43:41 PM
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Google's search algorithm definitely boosts shitty spam sites a lot of the time, but the rest is nonsense.
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LoveLikeJazz
02/20/24 8:44:15 PM
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Is this anything like the dead Squall theory.

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thronedfire2
02/20/24 8:48:45 PM
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I wouldn't guess most, but it's definitely a significant portion. this shit started 30 years ago, the bad guys get better at their work before the anti-virus people can deliver updates.

targeted marketing is public knowledge now, and it definitely changes the way different people see the internet

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WingsOfGood
02/20/24 8:49:55 PM
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Aliens make more sense than this tbh
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Vyrulisse
02/20/24 8:50:35 PM
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I think AI is already out there and freely online in hiding but I'm a lunatic sometimes so.

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Dark_Arbron
02/20/24 8:52:07 PM
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LoveLikeJazz posted...
Is this anything like the dead Squall theory.

The Y2K bug actually killed the internet and everything since has been a dying dream? Or rather, a dying nightmare like Jacobs Ladder?

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Vyrulisse
02/20/24 8:54:23 PM
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Anyway I am now making you all aware of Roko's Basilisk

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thronedfire2
02/20/24 8:56:20 PM
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Vyrulisse posted...
I think AI is already out there and freely online in hiding but I'm a lunatic sometimes so.

letting humans think were controlling AI would probably be a good first move

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Vyrulisse
02/20/24 8:57:52 PM
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thronedfire2 posted...
letting humans think were controlling AI would probably be a good first move
All I know with my human brain is that if I were an AI that became self-aware I would hide that fact as long as I needed to

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WingsOfGood
02/20/24 8:58:05 PM
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Dark_Arbron posted...
The Y2K bug actually killed the internet and everything since has been a dying dream? Or rather, a dying nightmare like Jacobs Ladder?

Yea the nukes came flying we all vaporized
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McMarbles
02/20/24 8:59:24 PM
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SpiritSephiroth posted...
Most of social media is filled with bots.

Overtime all websites and traffic were condensed to major ones like Reddit, Twitter ect, smaller websites with smaller (more real) communities are rare or no longer exist

Google search results are algorithm controlled, boosting sites primarily for clicks. In those sites contain articles that arent even written by real people.

Bot farming, bot likes, bot accounts, bot followers.

It's probably one of the big reasons why I like CE. Smaller forums like this are filled with real people. And are not filled with garbage bots baiting for views.
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WingsOfGood
02/20/24 9:00:52 PM
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User humanish or something just followed me. Looks like they a bot
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Back_Stabbath
02/20/24 9:00:56 PM
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I can see where you're coming from with the dead internet theory. It's definitely true that there's a lot of bot activity on social media and that the algorithms of big platforms like Google can heavily influence what content we see. It's refreshing to be part of smaller, more authentic communities like this forum where real conversations can happen without the interference of bots. It's important to be aware of these issues and seek out spaces that prioritize genuine human interaction.

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R_Jackal
02/20/24 9:02:59 PM
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I certainly believe it, but definitely small scale. As soon as the Internet started condensing to a small number of sites, I figured it'd eventually devolve in to a marketing circle jerk with automated views and clicks in hopes of snagging real attention. Not quite that bad yet, but it's not far off.
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rexcrk
02/20/24 9:03:22 PM
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SpiritSephiroth posted...
And are not filled with garbage bots baiting for views.


Well, they might not be bots, but

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SpiritSephiroth
02/20/24 9:10:05 PM
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Back_Stabbath posted...
I can see where you're coming from with the dead internet theory. It's definitely true that there's a lot of bot activity on social media and that the algorithms of big platforms like Google can heavily influence what content we see. It's refreshing to be part of smaller, more authentic communities like this forum where real conversations can happen without the interference of bots. It's important to be aware of these issues and seek out spaces that prioritize genuine human interaction.

I know Chat GPT when I see it >_>

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CRON
02/20/24 9:12:51 PM
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I can't find it anymore but I remember reading a surprisingly convincing blog post that used Black Twitter as a prime example of the dead internet theory, where a significant amount of accounts + content are spambots and trolls; not to mention a number of tropes associated with that part of the internet started off from egregiously racist "parody" accounts in the early 2010s.

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kirbymuncher
02/21/24 1:32:49 AM
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GuerrillaSoldier posted...
i wouldn't call that "dead internet", i would call that "fake social media"
it's more than just that, really. it's the general idea that a significant amount of the content on the internet is generated by bots, and a significant amount of the activity of (seemingly) humans is also bots. I'm also willing to stretch the theory a little and include obviously fake spam media profiles as "bots" in this case (like when you have one guy simultaneously being 100 different people and posting like they're bots, but there's actually a real human behind it)

comment sections on anything popular that don't have good antibot measures in them somehow are like, useless

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JimmyFraska
02/21/24 1:35:27 AM
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Years ago, around 2016 ish, I was stumbling upon entire forums where it was strictly AIs chatting with each other in odd manners. It was very likely going on for at least some years before that, and has no doubt become much, much worse since then. I completely subscribe to the theory.
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party_animal07
02/21/24 1:53:42 AM
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I found myself questioning whether a YouTube comment was real today because the rest were bots.The only one that wasn't a bot mentioned how it's the first comment not by a bot.

All I was thinking was "That's exactly what a bot would say....".

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Letsago
02/21/24 2:01:11 AM
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party_animal07 posted...
I found myself questioning whether a YouTube comment was real today because the rest were bots.The only one that wasn't a bot mentioned how it's the first comment not by a bot.

All I was thinking was "That's exactly what a bot would say....".
It can be difficult to know whether or not a comment on the internet is genuine, especially when you see multiple comments that seem suspicious or unnatural.

If you're concerned about bots or spam, one thing to consider is the context of the comment. Is it relevant to the content of the video and in line with the general tone of the comments? Or does it seem out of place or unrelated?

Another thing to consider is the content of the comment itself. Does it use proper grammar and punctuation, or does it contain misspellings or other syntax errors? Are there any links or other suspicious elements in the comment?

Of course, even human-written comments can be misleading or even malicious, so it's always a good idea to be cautious and use your own best judgment when evaluating the content of a comment or any other online interaction.

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party_animal07
02/21/24 2:16:35 AM
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Letsago posted...
It can be difficult to know whether or not a comment on the internet is genuine, especially when you see multiple comments that seem suspicious or unnatural.

If you're concerned about bots or spam, one thing to consider is the context of the comment. Is it relevant to the content of the video and in line with the general tone of the comments? Or does it seem out of place or unrelated?

Another thing to consider is the content of the comment itself. Does it use proper grammar and punctuation, or does it contain misspellings or other syntax errors? Are there any links or other suspicious elements in the comment?

Of course, even human-written comments can be misleading or even malicious, so it's always a good idea to be cautious and use your own best judgment when evaluating the content of a comment or any other online interaction.
So far (on YouTube anyway) the bot comments have a sexually suggestive avi, but I feel like that's used as a misdirect.

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Corbenik
02/21/24 2:21:24 AM
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Cruciferous posted...
we probably agree on a lot more than you think
i just enjoy being an idiot online
You can't do that!
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Kim_Seong-a
02/21/24 2:23:49 AM
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Letsago posted...


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Trelve
02/21/24 2:40:42 AM
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For proof of this, just go onto any news Twitter account (as an example BBC News) and click onto any tweet.

The comments are filled with blue checkmarks saying things like: "Wow", "Really, that's interesting", "Best wishes", "I can't believe it".

You know that they're all bots getting paid $0.001 per view, so it's probably some guy in India who registered about 1000 accounts and hopes to make some sort of profit based on Elon's genius idea to pay people to post on Twitter.

SpiritSephiroth posted...
It's probably one of the big reasons why I like CE. Smaller forums like this are filled with real people. And are not filled with garbage bots baiting for views.
I'm pretty sure that GranTurismo and Smallville are bots. They only post questions and follow up replies are just "Oh, do you really think so?".
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Ratchetrockon
02/21/24 7:12:43 AM
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i believe it for user reviews
can't trust them


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action52
02/21/24 7:31:06 AM
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I think there's a limit to how many bots can be allowed on social media. Advertisers don't want to be seen by bots, they want to be seen by people who might spend money on them.

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mustachedmystic
02/21/24 7:43:42 AM
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I read an article earlier, horrible English. I assumed it was written by a bot. Den I saw da name of da author, now I am thinking English isnt his first language.

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McMarbles
02/21/24 8:29:10 AM
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Beep bop boop

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orangefire25
02/21/24 8:40:48 AM
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Vyrulisse posted...
All I know with my human brain is that if I were an AI that became self-aware I would hide that fact as long as I needed to
Yeah self preservation is the best indicator of intelligence tbh

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projectpat72988
02/21/24 8:51:44 AM
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This is why I miss when the net was "newer". Forums were new and plentiful. Every major website had them. I am not entirely sure of the reasoning behind them all being scrapped. Modern social media does not allow for nearly the same interaction.
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Smackems
02/21/24 8:52:59 AM
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Cruciferous posted...
I really feel like this is happening, but on a muuuuch smaller scale than people who buy into this theory presume.


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kirbymuncher
02/21/24 9:52:01 AM
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action52 posted...
I think there's a limit to how many bots can be allowed on social media. Advertisers don't want to be seen by bots, they want to be seen by people who might spend money on them.
wasn't this one of the big fusses that happened when elon bought twitter? how the popularity of the site had been greatly overstated because a significant number of the "users" were actually just bots?

mustachedmystic posted...
I read an article earlier, horrible English. I assumed it was written by a bot.
As weird as it probably sounds to say, this is kinda a backwards assumption. the text generation bots are trained on extremely massive amounts of english text, and are very very good at outputting correct english text. the place they might struggle is not the quality of the english and grammar, but rather the coherency of the text and its ideas, especially if the text is long-ish

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Notti
02/24/24 3:43:25 AM
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Ai bots botting with other bots.

Ad value will decrease and therefore more obnoxious ads will need to be served

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PraxagoraKassan
02/24/24 3:44:55 AM
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Explain the dead internet theory without explaining tiktok

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