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Spiritlittle
02/13/24 9:46:52 PM
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https://twitter.com/Darkknight2149/status/1757452170381685157?t=9GlRYAkneGI7a0P2rrRhnw&s=19

Yep. Exactly what I predicted.

CEO also confirms it was an old build.

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Spiritlittle
02/13/24 10:11:43 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

But it's the two big ones.

And Masahiro Ito not only did the creature designs this time, he also did the combat system.

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Spiritlittle
02/13/24 10:15:50 PM
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Full interview link:

https://twitter.com/ResiEvilCentral/status/1757522336717115564?t=fwaTFqIw60pj1vI3fcmXkg&s=19

CEO is throwing some serious shade at Konami.

They actively know that the trailer that was shown is not what they intended.

Still cannot comment on release date but feel confident that the game is in a much better state than what was shown.

Know that trailer was too combat heavy and doesn't capture the spirit of SH2.

Have to "grit their teeth" over Konami's decisions.

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Ricemills
02/13/24 10:38:46 PM
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This game gonna be suck isn't it?
Not released yet and already the blaming game

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Spiritlittle
02/13/24 10:46:52 PM
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Ricemills posted...
This game gonna be suck isn't it?
Not released yet and already the blaming game
Nah.

The entire Bloober Team is furious with Konami but what are you gonna do? They funded the whole project.

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godofwar596
02/14/24 2:51:23 AM
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Normally Id write this off as the devs being unable to take criticism well and passing the blame onto someone else, but the fact that Konami fucked up the MGS collection so hard it had to be patched multiple times to be in a playable state, Im willing to believe the devs on Konami being at fault. Id believe them either way because its fucking Konami, fuck Konami

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MarcyWarcy
02/14/24 2:56:47 AM
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tbh nothing they showed looked out of line for how shit bloober team usually is, weird that they felt the had to throw the blame at someone. they are doing as expected

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party_animal07
02/14/24 3:14:54 AM
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You failed the moment you started compiling combat footage for a Silent Hill game.

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Axiom
02/14/24 3:36:27 AM
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It's going to be shit so I'm cool with blaming them both
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Vyrulisse
02/14/24 3:42:00 AM
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MarcyWarcy posted...
tbh nothing they showed looked out of line for how shit bloober team usually is, weird that they felt the had to throw the blame at someone. they are doing as expected


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pegusus123456
02/14/24 3:42:49 AM
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I feel like y'all are underestimating Konami being garbage.

Like I'm not saying this remake will be good or anything, but I very much believe Mr. Bloober on this topic.

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ssjevot
02/14/24 3:48:20 AM
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Part of Konami being garbage is them picking Bloober to begin with. They love picking unqualified Western devs to handle series they long since fired most of the Japanese staff for (MGS, Castlevania, Silent Hill, Contra, etc.). They're both shit, that's why they're working together.

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AbstraktProfSC2
02/14/24 4:55:06 AM
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why are the devs blaming the publisher for the way the game is developed lol
just develop a better looking game then?

sounds like they showed how terrible it is and bloober wanted to hide it or something

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pegusus123456
02/14/24 5:04:26 AM
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AbstraktProfSC2 posted...
why are the devs blaming the publisher for the way the game is developed lol
just develop a better looking game then?
He's claiming that the footage shown is from an older build of the game.

He also says that the trailer - which is entirely combat focused - is not the spirit of the game which makes sense because SH2 was never about the combat.

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JuanCarlos1
02/14/24 5:19:43 AM
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AbstraktProfSC2 posted...
why are the devs blaming the publisher for the way the game is developed lol
just develop a better looking game then?

sounds like they showed how terrible it is and bloober wanted to hide it or something

Have you played SH2? To me it sounds like Konami wants to market it as an action game when it isnt really. Thus leading to the creation of a lackluster combat trailer... cause the combat in SH is lackluster.

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Ricemills
02/14/24 5:27:18 AM
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What are the chance that Konami decided to can the project because of this tweet?


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AbstraktProfSC2
02/14/24 5:30:55 AM
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JuanCarlos1 posted...
Have you played SH2?

LUL

To me it sounds like Konami wants to market it as an action game when it isnt really. Thus leading to the creation of a lackluster combat trailer... cause the combat in SH is lackluster.

so what youre saying is bloober wanted to hide it....
Theyre sounding like a gaslighty girlfriend rn

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LaLeyenda
02/14/24 5:33:35 AM
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ssjevot posted...
Part of Konami being garbage is them picking Bloober to begin with. They love picking unqualified Western devs to handle series they long since fired most of the Japanese staff for (MGS, Castlevania, Silent Hill, Contra, etc.). They're both shit, that's why they're working together.
They always did that regardless of whatever staff they employed. See Metal Gear Solid HD collection done by Bluepoint Games (it was pretty good) and Silent Hill HD collection done by Hijinx Studios (it was a horrible experience much like the horrors of Silent Hill).

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ssjevot
02/14/24 6:34:19 AM
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JuanCarlos1 posted...
Have you played SH2? To me it sounds like Konami wants to market it as an action game when it isnt really. Thus leading to the creation of a lackluster combat trailer... cause the combat in SH is lackluster.

I actually think the combat in 3 is good. If you get good at parrying with the katana you can style on some bosses.

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RndmNmber1
02/14/24 6:39:40 AM
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To be honest, this just sounds like a damage control from Bloober.
But the stupid thing they done is blaming Konami for it.

Konami may use the the older build, but have Bloober sent them the current build? Konami made the trailer based on what they have. Now it sounds like Bloober just trying to save face from the bad reception.

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Spiritlittle
02/14/24 6:53:46 AM
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RndmNmber1 posted...
To be honest, this just sounds like a damage control from Bloober.
But the stupid thing they done is blaming Konami for it.

Konami may use the the older build, but have Bloober sent them the current build? Konami made the trailer based on what they have. Now it sounds like Bloober just trying to save face from the bad reception.
I think it sounds like there's no communication between Konami and Bloober, and Konami is trying to get action fans to buy the game, so they used a combat montage as a trailer.

Devs always want to make good games. They're artists. The CEO of a game company publicly calling out the publisher of the game that hasn't released yet is unprecedented.

(Also, the interview has been taken down now.)

When things go south with a game, nine times out of ten it's because of the publisher, not the studio.

I fully believe Bloober Team here.

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AceMos
02/14/24 7:15:40 AM
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first of all unless they drastically tone down the action hero gun play the combat is not going to fit period

2nd bloober team is a garbage dev team who is terrible at handling the subject of mental health which is very important to silent hill 2

3rd konami is absolute garbage as well both the current silent hill projects they have put out fail to capture the spirit of silent hill

both sides can be garbage here

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pegusus123456
02/14/24 7:28:42 AM
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AceMos posted...
first of all unless they drastically tone down the action hero gun play the combat is not going to fit period
The entire point the CEO was making is that the trailer is not indicative of the game because they focused solely on combat.

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Spiritlittle
02/14/24 7:30:36 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
The entire point the CEO was making is that the trailer is not indicative of the game because they focused solely on combat.
Nailed it.

Which means they do understand the essence of SH.

The gameplay was always going to he over the shoulder, RE2 Remake like. That was a given. We've known since the reveal trailer that it would have an over the shoulder camera. No one wants to play tank controls or fixed cameras in 2024.

This game has to sell to more people than just classic SH fans.

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AceMos
02/14/24 7:31:11 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
The entire point the CEO was making is that the trailer is not indicative of the game because they focused solely on combat.
im saying james should not be skilled at gunplay at all

he is just some dude a regular guy

his ability with a gun should just be point and shoot

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boxoto
02/14/24 7:34:29 AM
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that's what he was doing in the trailer, though.

the only real difference from the original is camera perspective - if you have a behind the back camera, you can aim it more freely.

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Spiritlittle
02/14/24 7:47:32 AM
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AceMos posted...
im saying james should not be skilled at gunplay at all

he is just some dude a regular guy

his ability with a gun should just be point and shoot
Modern gamers would hate that. It was always going to be RE2 Remake.

And no, the original game's combat was bad because of the hardware limitations, not fans' head canon about James being a regular dude.

Plenty of regular people can pick up a gun and shoot it

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CARRRNE_ASADA
02/14/24 7:53:11 AM
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Spiritlittle posted...
Modern gamers would hate that. It was always going to be RE2 Remake.

And no, the original game's combat was bad because of the hardware limitations, not fans' head canon about James being a regular dude.

Plenty of regular people can pick up a gun and shoot it

Exactly. Probably there just wont be any upgrades that make guns any better and maybe limit the firing rate with more realistic reloading times. Also making ammo scarce.


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AceMos
02/14/24 7:55:20 AM
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bloober team "we want to put more focus on action in our games"

you lot "the action wont be focused on"

also reminder bloober team has in 2 separate games pushed the idea that those suffering mental health issues are damaged the medium and their blair which game

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Nukazie
02/14/24 7:56:00 AM
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fucking lol

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Spiritlittle
02/14/24 7:57:16 AM
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AceMos posted...
bloober team "we want to put more focus on action in our games"

you lot "the action wont be focused on"

also reminder bloober team has in 2 separate games pushed the idea that those suffering mental health issues are damaged the medium and their blair which game

AceMos posted...
bloober team "we want to put more focus on action in our games"

you lot "the action wont be focused on"

also reminder bloober team has in 2 separate games pushed the idea that those suffering mental health issues are damaged the medium and their blair which game
They made that statement AFTER they worked on SH2 because it was their first game with combat and they liked making it.

Nothing wrong with that.

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AceMos
02/14/24 7:58:05 AM
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they are still working on silent hill 2 this is not after

why are you shilling so hard for bloober team of all companies

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Spiritlittle
02/14/24 8:01:45 AM
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AceMos posted...
they are still working on silent hill 2 this is not after

why are you shilling so hard for bloober team of all companies
Omg. Reading comprehension not your strong suit, huh?

Because they got to make a game with combat, they are now interested in doing more.

Think, think!

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TomClark
02/14/24 8:11:09 AM
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I'm with them on the notion that a combat trailer wasn't a good idea in the first place, because the combat wasn't a focus in the original (and it was shit there, too), but the whole "We totally have a secret version of the game where the combat is great we just showed off an earlier build" thing has real "My game goes to a different school" energy.

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AceMos
02/14/24 10:03:41 AM
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once again i ask why give bloober team the benefit of the doubt considering their history

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mach25687
02/14/24 10:06:41 AM
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party_animal07 posted...
You failed the moment you started compiling combat footage for a Silent Hill game.
This, I love Silent Hill cause of the horror atmosphere and dread you felt playing it with great/sad characters that made you feel for them for the first three at least.

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Spiritlittle
02/14/24 10:42:10 AM
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mach25687 posted...
This, I love Silent Hill cause of the horror atmosphere and dread you felt playing it with great/sad characters that made you feel for them for the first three at least.
They have to show the combat and make it look action-y to pull in a bigger market.

It's just marketing strategy.

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AceMos
02/14/24 10:44:05 AM
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Spiritlittle posted...
They have to show the combat and make it look action-y to pull in a bigger market.

It's just marketing strategy.
uh huh wtv you say

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Spiritlittle
02/14/24 12:00:20 PM
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AceMos posted...
uh huh wtv you say
I work in marketing at a direct competitor of Konami and I know people that work there, so yeah, I know I'm right here.

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AceMos
02/14/24 12:30:04 PM
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Spiritlittle posted...
I work in marketing at a direct competitor of Konami and I know people that work there, so yeah, I know I'm right here.
what games have you marketed

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Spiritlittle
02/14/24 4:20:29 PM
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AceMos posted...
what games have you marketed
NDA.

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Alles-Losen
02/14/24 4:25:01 PM
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Any time they say "this footage is from an old build. The current build isnt jank", they are lying. Its always gonna be jank, and when they release it they will apologize and shit out some half hearted patches.

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02/14/24 4:28:31 PM
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Silent Hill is people, it's made of people

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Spiritlittle
02/14/24 5:12:26 PM
#48:


Alles-Losen posted...
Any time they say "this footage is from an old build. The current build isnt jank", they are lying. Its always gonna be jank, and when they release it they will apologize and shit out some half hearted patches.
Except there's been proof that this build is from May 2023.

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Ricemills
02/14/24 11:23:26 PM
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Spiritlittle posted...
Except there's been proof that this build is from May 2023.

No one denied it was from old build, the question is where is the new build?
You can't just claim that you have a new one without giving a proof.
And if they did have them, why isn't it shown to Konami so they can make the trailer based on new build?

Hating in Konami is understandable, but white knighting Blooper because of it is laughable.

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Spiritlittle
02/15/24 1:02:50 AM
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Ricemills posted...
No one denied it was from old build, the question is where is the new build?
You can't just claim that you have a new one without giving a proof.
And if they did have them, why isn't it shown to Konami so they can make the trailer based on new build?

Hating in Konami is understandable, but white knighting Blooper because of it is laughable.
Konami seems to have just gotten old footage and thrown together a trailer for the hell of it.

It's clear Konami and Bloober are not on good terms anymore.

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