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Tyranthraxus 02/12/24 10:48:54 PM #1:	Senate Pushes Ukraine Aid Bill Toward Passage as G.O.P. Splinters https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/12/us/politics/senate-ukraine-aid.html Cliffs: $60.1 billion to Ukraine. (Yay) $14.1 billion to Israel. (Boo) $10 billion to humanitarian aid (like Gaza) Passed by at 66-34 There's a pretty good chance this will pass the house. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:978813694] in Senate pas... [t:80695373]...</cite> <quote>Senate Pushes Ukraine Aid Bill Toward Passage as G.O.P. Splinters https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/12/us/politics/senate-ukraine-aid.htmlCliffs: $60.1 billion to Ukraine. (Yay)$14.1 billion to Israel. (Boo)$10 billion to humanitarian aid (like Gaza)Passed by at 66-34There's a pretty good chance this will pass the house. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WingsOfGood 02/12/24 10:49:58 PM #2:	What does Isreal have to do with Ukraine? <cite>WingsOfGood posted [p:978813710] in Senate pas... [t:80695373]...</cite> <quote>What does Isreal have to do with Ukraine?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Starks 02/12/24 10:50:31 PM #3:	People are already threatening discharge petitions in the House. Johnson won't be able to stop the bill. --- Paid for by StarksPAC, a registered 501(c)(4) <cite>Starks posted [p:978813720] in Senate pas... [t:80695373]...</cite> <quote>People are already threatening discharge petitions in the House. Johnson won't be able to stop the bill. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 02/12/24 10:50:39 PM #4:	WingsOfGood posted... What does Isreal have to do with Ukraine? Nothing we just can't pass up the chance to bomb some browns --- Asus ROG Strix Z790-E \| Core i9-13900k \| 64GB DDR5-6000 \| RTX 4090 24GB Dell AW3423DW QD-OLED - 1440p Ultrawide, 175hz, GSync <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:978813723] in Senate pas... [t:80695373]...</cite> <quote>WingsOfGood posted... </cite><quote>What does Isreal have to do with Ukraine?</quote>Nothing we just can't pass up the chance to bomb some browns </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 02/12/24 10:51:12 PM #5:	WingsOfGood posted... What does Isreal have to do with Ukraine? The two conflicts are related through Russia who funds & supplies antagonistic terrorist groups. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:978813727] in Senate pas... [t:80695373]...</cite> <quote>WingsOfGood posted... </cite><quote>What does Isreal have to do with Ukraine?</quote>The two conflicts are related through Russia who funds & supplies antagonistic terrorist groups. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JTilly 02/12/24 10:52:19 PM #6:	Meanwhile a massive portion of the country is living paycheck to paycheck. Thats really great mr. out of touch politicians --- pEaK cEman <cite>JTilly posted [p:978813747] in Senate pas... [t:80695373]...</cite> <quote>Meanwhile a massive portion of the country is living paycheck to paycheck. Thats really great mr. out of touch politicians </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sir_Will 02/12/24 10:52:26 PM #7:	Tyranthraxus posted... $14.1 billion to Israel. (Boo) $10 billion to humanitarian aid (like Gaza) $14.1 billion to kill Palestinians. $10 billion to feed some of the survivors. --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' <cite>Sir_Will posted [p:978813750] in Senate pas... [t:80695373]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>$14.1 billion to Israel. (Boo)$10 billion to humanitarian aid (like Gaza)</quote>$14.1 billion to kill Palestinians. $10 billion to feed some of the survivors. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 02/12/24 10:53:49 PM #8:	JTilly posted... Meanwhile a massive portion of the country is living paycheck to paycheck. Thats really great mr. out of touch politicians Excuse me sir but that sounds like you're suggesting SOCIALISM!!!!!! --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:978813771] in Senate pas... [t:80695373]...</cite> <quote>JTilly posted... </cite><quote>Meanwhile a massive portion of the country is living paycheck to paycheck. Thats really great mr. out of touch politicians</quote>Excuse me sir but that sounds like you're suggesting SOCIALISM!!!!!! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Deutschenlied 02/12/24 10:54:11 PM #9:	JTilly posted... Meanwhile a massive portion of the country is living paycheck to paycheck. Thats really great mr. out of touch politicians It's very important to the entire world that Russia does not take Ukraine. But yes, a few billion here and there would be nice for us poor scrub Americans. --- hockeybabe89 <cite>Deutschenlied posted [p:978813779] in Senate pas... [t:80695373]...</cite> <quote>JTilly posted... </cite><quote>Meanwhile a massive portion of the country is living paycheck to paycheck. Thats really great mr. out of touch politicians</quote>It's very important to the entire world that Russia does not take Ukraine.But yes, a few billion here and there would be nice for us poor scrub Americans. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DnDer 02/12/24 10:58:13 PM #10:	Tyranthraxus posted... $10 billion to humanitarian aid (like Gaza) Like Gaza, or has there been any kind of rider put on it that says "not Gaza?" --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:978813836] in Senate pas... [t:80695373]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>$10 billion to humanitarian aid (like Gaza)</quote>Like Gaza, or has there been any kind of rider put on it that says "not Gaza?" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hereforemnant 02/12/24 10:59:03 PM #11:	Tyranthraxus posted... Excuse me sir but that sounds like you're suggesting SOCIALISM!!!!!! --- 3DS Friend Code: FC: 0318-7199-1150 <cite>hereforemnant posted [p:978813848] in Senate pas... [t:80695373]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>Excuse me sir but that sounds like you're suggesting SOCIALISM!!!!!!</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 02/12/24 10:59:25 PM #12:	DnDer posted... Like Gaza, or has there been any kind of rider put on it that says "not Gaza?" It's designated to civilian territories affected by combat. Presumably, some of it will go to Ukraine as well, but seems mostly targeted at Gaza. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:978813854] in Senate pas... [t:80695373]...</cite> <quote>DnDer posted... </cite><quote>Like Gaza, or has there been any kind of rider put on it that says "not Gaza?"</quote>It's designated to civilian territories affected by combat. Presumably, some of it will go to Ukraine as well, but seems mostly targeted at Gaza. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sir_Will 02/12/24 11:01:30 PM #13:	Tyranthraxus posted... It's designated to civilian territories affected by combat. Presumably, some of it will go to Ukraine as well, but seems mostly targeted at Gaza. Ah. So $14.1 billion to kill Palestinians and maybe some small part of $10 billion to feed to survivors. Even more disgusting. --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' <cite>Sir_Will posted [p:978813884] in Senate pas... [t:80695373]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>It's designated to civilian territories affected by combat. Presumably, some of it will go to Ukraine as well, but seems mostly targeted at Gaza.</quote>Ah. So $14.1 billion to kill Palestinians and maybe some small part of $10 billion to feed to survivors. Even more disgusting. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlueKat 02/12/24 11:02:08 PM #14:	Sir_Will posted... $14.1 billion to kill Palestinians. $10 billion to feed some of the survivors. This is pretty crazy honestly --- There is no good. There is no evil. There just is. <cite>BlueKat posted [p:978813893] in Senate pas... [t:80695373]...</cite> <quote>Sir_Will posted... </cite><quote>$14.1 billion to kill Palestinians. $10 billion to feed some of the survivors.</quote>This is pretty crazy honestly </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2 02/12/24 11:02:33 PM #15:	they get off on edging the world --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... <cite>thronedfire2 posted [p:978813899] in Senate pas... [t:80695373]...</cite> <quote>they get off on edging the world </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 02/12/24 11:03:48 PM #16:	At least the majority is going to Ukraine. --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY <cite>Doe posted [p:978813916] in Senate pas... [t:80695373]...</cite> <quote>At least the majority is going to Ukraine. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kradek 02/12/24 11:45:06 PM #17:	WingsOfGood posted... What does Isreal have to do with Ukraine? There are definitely Dems who want the 2 fused personally, however on the whole any Republican cooperation will come at the expense of either the border or money to Israel. --- My metal band, Ivory King, has 2 songs out now - allmylinks.com/ivorykingtx (all of our links there so you can choose which one you'd prefer to use) <cite>Kradek posted [p:978814397] in Senate pas... [t:80695373]...</cite> <quote>WingsOfGood posted... </cite><quote>What does Isreal have to do with Ukraine?</quote>There are definitely Dems who want the 2 fused personally, however on the whole any Republican cooperation will come at the expense of either the border or money to Israel. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EPR-radar 02/12/24 11:48:10 PM #18:	JTilly posted... Meanwhile a massive portion of the country is living paycheck to paycheck. Thats really great mr. out of touch politicians Cutting off foreign aid has never once led to an increase in domestic spending. --- "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." -- 1984 <cite>EPR-radar posted [p:978814426] in Senate pas... [t:80695373]...</cite> <quote>JTilly posted... </cite><quote>Meanwhile a massive portion of the country is living paycheck to paycheck. Thats really great mr. out of touch politicians</quote>Cutting off foreign aid has never once led to an increase in domestic spending. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nukazie 02/12/24 11:54:17 PM #19:	tax money at work --- We suffer from the delusion that the entire universe is held in order by the categories of human thought. <cite>Nukazie posted [p:978814489] in Senate pas... [t:80695373]...</cite> <quote>tax money at work </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EPR-radar 02/12/24 11:56:11 PM #20:	The GOP talking point of the moment seem to be whining about wasted tax dollars, since openly supporting Big Daddy Putin might be too obvious. --- "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." -- 1984 <cite>EPR-radar posted [p:978814513] in Senate pas... [t:80695373]...</cite> <quote>The GOP talking point of the moment seem to be whining about wasted tax dollars, since openly supporting Big Daddy Putin might be too obvious. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FinalBraveNUT 02/13/24 12:16:42 AM #21:	84 billion. Imagine that in county what we could do --- FFBE friend ID 958,168,629 Rank 156 <cite>FinalBraveNUT posted [p:978814741] in Senate pas... [t:80695373]...</cite> <quote>84 billion. Imagine that in county what we could do </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EPR-radar 02/13/24 12:20:12 AM #22:	FinalBraveNUT posted... 84 billion. Imagine that in county what we could do A little bit more to the IRS for tax enforcement, and we can get at least that out of rich tax deadbeats and still fund Ukraine. --- "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." -- 1984 <cite>EPR-radar posted [p:978814783] in Senate pas... [t:80695373]...</cite> <quote>FinalBraveNUT posted... </cite><quote>84 billion. Imagine that in county what we could do</quote>A little bit more to the IRS for tax enforcement, and we can get at least that out of rich tax deadbeats and still fund Ukraine. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kradek 02/13/24 12:22:53 AM #24:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] No, that bill is dead. And likewise, I think the border was the condition they had for Ukraine funding, so this bill is also likely to die in the House. Especially since Trump this past weekend pretty much told Putin he'd support him attacking NATO allies, so he certainly doesn't give a fuck about Ukraine. --- My metal band, Ivory King, has 2 songs out now - allmylinks.com/ivorykingtx (all of our links there so you can choose which one you'd prefer to use) <cite>Kradek posted [p:978814804] in Senate pas... [t:80695373]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> No, that bill is dead.And likewise, I think the border was the condition they had for Ukraine funding, so this bill is also likely to die in the House.Especially since Trump this past weekend pretty much told Putin he'd support him attacking NATO allies, so he certainly doesn't give a fuck about Ukraine. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssjevot 02/13/24 12:23:48 AM #25:	Israel doesn't need aid. It's a rich country with a very large military facing no actual threat that would require aid. Additionally they are scared to condemn Russia's invasion of Ukraine or sanction them or provide military aid to Ukraine. They also develop weapons with China. They also piss off every other US ally in the region. So why is the US giving them money? Like someone give me the real politik on this. Don't say some nonsense about supporting democracy. --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss <cite>ssjevot posted [p:978814812] in Senate pas... [t:80695373]...</cite> <quote>Israel doesn't need aid. It's a rich country with a very large military facing no actual threat that would require aid. Additionally they are scared to condemn Russia's invasion of Ukraine or sanction them or provide military aid to Ukraine. They also develop weapons with China. They also piss off every other US ally in the region. So why is the US giving them money?Like someone give me the real politik on this. Don't say some nonsense about supporting democracy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EPR-radar 02/13/24 12:25:12 AM #26:	Kradek posted... No, that bill is dead. And likewise, I think the border was the condition they had for Ukraine funding, so this bill is also likely to die in the House. Especially since Trump this past weekend pretty much told Putin he'd support him attacking NATO allies, so he certainly doesn't give a fuck about Ukraine. A discharge petition in the House seems likely for this, which would get it out from under Johnson's control. At that point, a handful of Republicans defying Trump would lead to the bill passing. --- "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." -- 1984 <cite>EPR-radar posted [p:978814822] in Senate pas... [t:80695373]...</cite> <quote>Kradek posted... </cite><quote>No, that bill is dead.And likewise, I think the border was the condition they had for Ukraine funding, so this bill is also likely to die in the House.Especially since Trump this past weekend pretty much told Putin he'd support him attacking NATO allies, so he certainly doesn't give a fuck about Ukraine.</quote>A discharge petition in the House seems likely for this, which would get it out from under Johnson's control. At that point, a handful of Republicans defying Trump would lead to the bill passing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EPR-radar 02/13/24 12:26:16 AM #27:	ssjevot posted... Israel doesn't need aid. It's a rich country with a very large military facing no actual threat that would require aid. Additionally they are scared to condemn Russia's invasion of Ukraine or sanction them or provide military aid to Ukraine. They also develop weapons with China. They also piss off every other US ally in the region. So why is the US giving them money? Like someone give me the real politik on this. Don't say some nonsense about supporting democracy. AIPAC. It's pretty fucking simple. --- "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." -- 1984 <cite>EPR-radar posted [p:978814829] in Senate pas... [t:80695373]...</cite> <quote>ssjevot posted... </cite><quote>Israel doesn't need aid. It's a rich country with a very large military facing no actual threat that would require aid. Additionally they are scared to condemn Russia's invasion of Ukraine or sanction them or provide military aid to Ukraine. They also develop weapons with China. They also piss off every other US ally in the region. So why is the US giving them money?Like someone give me the real politik on this. Don't say some nonsense about supporting democracy.</quote>AIPAC. It's pretty fucking simple. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kradek 02/13/24 12:27:10 AM #28:	EPR-radar posted... A discharge petition in the House seems likely for this, which would get it out from under Johnson's control. At that point, a handful of Republicans defying Trump would lead to the bill passing. We'll see if any of them actually have the stones to do it. Johnson's control is definitely weak, so here's to hoping. --- My metal band, Ivory King, has 2 songs out now - allmylinks.com/ivorykingtx (all of our links there so you can choose which one you'd prefer to use) <cite>Kradek posted [p:978814837] in Senate pas... [t:80695373]...</cite> <quote>EPR-radar posted... </cite><quote>A discharge petition in the House seems likely for this, which would get it out from under Johnson's control. At that point, a handful of Republicans defying Trump would lead to the bill passing.</quote>We'll see if any of them actually have the stones to do it. Johnson's control is definitely weak, so here's to hoping. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sephiroth_C_Ryu 02/13/24 12:47:43 AM #29:	Your boo aside, most of that Israel money is coming right back to the US MIC. Again, there are no good sides over there. Just useful puppets, idiots, and people who want to kill each other. I am reminded of this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8hEtI9AI0U --- I am the Hunter of Topics. My post never fails to kill its prey. pounces Nyaa! <cite>Sephiroth_C_Ryu posted [p:978815045] in Senate pas... [t:80695373]...</cite> <quote>Your boo aside, most of that Israel money is coming right back to the US MIC. Again, there are no good sides over there. Just useful puppets, idiots, and people who want to kill each other. I am reminded of this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8hEtI9AI0U </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 02/13/24 7:25:36 AM #30:	FinalBraveNUT posted... 84 billion. Imagine that in county what we could do We could give everyone like $20 --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:978817737] in Senate pas... [t:80695373]...</cite> <quote>FinalBraveNUT posted... </cite><quote>84 billion. Imagine that in county what we could do</quote>We could give everyone like $20 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xenogears15 02/13/24 7:31:47 AM #31:	Kradek posted... No, that bill is dead. And likewise, I think the border was the condition they had for Ukraine funding, so this bill is also likely to die in the House. Especially since Trump this past weekend pretty much told Putin he'd support him attacking NATO allies, so he certainly doesn't give a fuck about Ukraine. There are too many rumings about a discharge petition. This bill will pass the House. JTilly posted... Meanwhile a massive portion of the country is living paycheck to paycheck. Thats really great mr. out of touch politicians Sometimes, when you're the hegemon of an entire civilization, you have to spend some money on military matters. Especially when the military matters at hand kill off your biggest geopolitical opponent with no blood cost to you. Doubly so when your nation has chosen bullets over butter and has since at least the 1960s. --- This rant was brought to you by your local random thinker. I'm as Canadian as Wayne Gretzky crashing a snowmobile into a moose. - JIC X <cite>Xenogears15 posted [p:978817796] in Senate pas... [t:80695373]...</cite> <quote>Kradek posted... </cite><quote>No, that bill is dead.And likewise, I think the border was the condition they had for Ukraine funding, so this bill is also likely to die in the House.Especially since Trump this past weekend pretty much told Putin he'd support him attacking NATO allies, so he certainly doesn't give a fuck about Ukraine.</quote>There are too many rumings about a discharge petition. This bill will pass the House.JTilly posted... </cite><quote>Meanwhile a massive portion of the country is living paycheck to paycheck. Thats really great mr. out of touch politicians</quote>Sometimes, when you're the hegemon of an entire civilization, you have to spend some money on military matters. Especially when the military matters at hand kill off your biggest geopolitical opponent with no blood cost to you.Doubly so when your nation has chosen bullets over butter and has since at least the 1960s. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CARRRNE_ASADA 02/13/24 1:57:56 PM #32:	The public is owed a breakdown of how all this money is spent. --- SEXY SEXY! <cite>CARRRNE_ASADA posted [p:978823336] in Senate pas... [t:80695373]...</cite> <quote>The public is owed a breakdown of how all this money is spent. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 02/13/24 2:17:55 PM #33:	They should cut the part going to Israel and add it to the Ukraine pile of cash <cite>Zikten posted [p:978823697] in Senate pas... [t:80695373]...</cite> <quote>They should cut the part going to Israel and add it to the Ukraine pile of cash</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
texanfan27 02/13/24 2:20:13 PM #34:	What is Ukraines status? Have they fully pushed out Russia yet? Figure Putin should be running out of resources or been removed by now. --- I'm a ? Block. No, punching me won't give you power ups. <cite>texanfan27 posted [p:978823743] in Senate pas... [t:80695373]...</cite> <quote>What is Ukraines status? Have they fully pushed out Russia yet? Figure Putin should be running out of resources or been removed by now. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 02/13/24 2:21:56 PM #35:	texanfan27 posted... What is Ukraines status? Have they fully pushed out Russia yet? Figure Putin should be running out of resources or been removed by now. No they haven't. Russia has altered strategy and is mostly trying to destroy their food sources these days. A second holodomor if you would. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:978823776] in Senate pas... [t:80695373]...</cite> <quote>texanfan27 posted... </cite><quote>What is Ukraines status? Have they fully pushed out Russia yet? Figure Putin should be running out of resources or been removed by now.</quote>No they haven't. Russia has altered strategy and is mostly trying to destroy their food sources these days. A second holodomor if you would. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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