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Teddytalks
02/12/24 5:55:27 PM
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WingsOfGood posted...
about that

https://www.polygon.com/2015/10/28/9625556/metal-gear-solid-escape-from-new-york-lawsuit-kojima-john-carpenter

Would they have won If they tried? I doubt it tbh

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Baha05
02/12/24 5:55:33 PM
#303:


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Thats rather an ironic take for you to say while not being adult about how you conduct yourself.

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dancing_cactuar
02/12/24 5:55:45 PM
#304:


Tyranthraxus posted...
The only thing ruined here are pants shitting AAA devs selling $250 collectors editions that don't even come with all the DLC with MTX and always online getting clowned on by a UE5 $30 game made by 30-40 people that looks like a PlayStation 3 game.
With one of the main people holding the 30-40 people together being a high school dropout working at a 7/11 uploading gun animations to youtube in his spare time.

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WingsOfGood
02/12/24 5:56:11 PM
#305:


Teddytalks posted...
Would they have won If they tried? I doubt it tbh

probably because Snake is the name of both characters and in the game Solid Snake says his real name is Plissken which is the name of the guy in the movie
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Baha05
02/12/24 5:56:45 PM
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Which again you would be 100% wrong but you will continue to inject that notion.

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Teddytalks
02/12/24 5:56:54 PM
#307:


WingsOfGood posted...
but fyi Teddy this is the point

the fact you even thought something as shameless as Metal Gear was transformative goes to show just how common and accepted clones are in video gaming

fyi Snake Plissken is the main character in Escape from New York and literally is the exact image of Solid Snake who says his real name is Plissken

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/52cdbffc.jpg

So all the stuff about the military industrial complex, the anti American message, etc was taken from that work? You can argue that any dude with an eye patch and similar hair is a clone.

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WingsOfGood
02/12/24 5:57:03 PM
#308:


Baha05 posted...
Thats rather an ironic take for you to say while not being adult about how you conduct yourself.

you sound mad, thought you were not upset?
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Tyranthraxus
02/12/24 5:57:52 PM
#309:


Teddytalks posted...
So all the stuff about the military industrial complex, the anti American message, etc was taken from that work?

Uhh... I take it you never played Metal Gear Solid or its sequels?

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WingsOfGood
02/12/24 5:59:00 PM
#311:


Teddytalks posted...
So all the stuff about the military industrial complex, the anti American message, etc was taken from that work? You can argue that any dude with an eye patch and similar hair is a clone.

It honestly wouldn't matter because they literally ripped the main character and didn't even bother changing their name

but anyways here is a list:

https://www.reddit.com/r/metalgearsolid/comments/krfaj2/escape_from_new_york_referencesinfluences_in/

Escape from New York references/influences in Metal Gear Solid
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It's not unknown that Escape from New York inspired many elements in Metal Gear. I've known this for years. However, I haven't actually watched the film until now. I thought it was fun seeing all the similarities. Some were more obvious and others I'm stretching a little bit. Here's a few observations I made (mostly applies to MGS1):
  • The main character's name is Snake, who is a special forces veteran and really likes smoking (Kojima is very upfront with the influence).
  • The specific "Snake Plissken" name is used in both series.
  • Both series involve having characters wearing an eyepatch. Big Boss has a real one, and Solid Snake has the Solid Eye on the same side as Kurt Russell.
  • Snake and Snake Plissken have some impressive mullets.
  • Both are cold, cynical and tired (although Solid, Big Boss, and Venom have characterization beyond this).
  • Belligerent relations with the CO.
  • The characters mention not liking needles in mission prep.
  • Solid and Plissken are injected with some sort of fail-safe in case of mission failure or betrayal (neck-explosives/FOXDIE).
  • Solo infiltration mission.
  • Reliance on insider help (Brain and Maggie/Otacon and Meryl).
  • Worth noting that Brain and Otacon are both engineers, who collaborated with the terrorists either willingly or unwillingly.
  • A final car escape against a time limit.
  • Supposed to be stealth mission but what actually happens in the movie and games kind of imply that being undetected didn't really matter (hello alerts).
  • Terrorists make their play the day before an international nuclear treaty (Hartford summit/START II).
  • Plans involve blackmailing/undermining the president.
  • Main character gets captured.
  • There's a fist fight close to the end.
I haven't seen Escape from L.A. and there's probably a lot more that I missed, but these were the ones I noticed personally.
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Teddytalks
02/12/24 5:59:15 PM
#312:


WingsOfGood posted...
probably because Snake is the name of both characters and in the game Solid Snake says his real name is Plissken which is the name of the guy in the movie

Ahh that silly lol. Definitely seems like a friendly relationship here if no efforts was made for legal distinction.

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Teddytalks
02/12/24 5:59:41 PM
#313:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Uhh... I take it you never played Metal Gear Solid or its sequels?

It explicitly anti war and even anti American. What wrong about these statements?

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WingsOfGood
02/12/24 6:02:23 PM
#314:


Teddytalks posted...
Ahh that silly lol. Definitely seems like a friendly relationship here if no efforts was made for legal distinction.

correct

what is hilarious is Palworld did MORE to differentiate from Pokemon than MGS did from Escape from New York

yet they guy who supposedly has such an issue with this thinks MGS is just fine...cause it had a mech

yet palworld having crafting is not enough
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Tyranthraxus
02/12/24 6:02:27 PM
#315:


Teddytalks posted...
It explicitly anti war and even anti American. What wrong about these statements?

Nothing. Just that those are like the main fucking themes of nearly every one of the games.

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MabusIncarnate
02/12/24 6:09:41 PM
#319:


They supported Craftopia a lot, they will add more stuff and people will come back to it. I was into Craftopia for a bit even though it was shit, we'd put it down for a few weeks til an update and then dive in for hours more.

Me and the wife put in like 5 hours into Palworld last night, at it's current state it does have an end point, so it makes sense that people reached cap, caught everything and put it down for now.

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Baha05
02/12/24 6:10:51 PM
#320:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

And that changes my post how exactly? Again you are under this notion that I have been shitting on Palworld and that has been 100% wrong.

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C-zom
02/12/24 6:12:37 PM
#321:


I haven't read this thread, but Wings has a point about EFNY. He's correct. I still enjoy MGS though.

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Baha05
02/12/24 6:13:36 PM
#322:


C-zom posted...
I haven't read this thread, but Wings has a point about EFNY. He's correct. I still enjoy MGS though.
Except his point has to ignore Snake as a character in MGS to make it work. It also ignores any differences between the two works.

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Tyranthraxus
02/12/24 6:15:08 PM
#323:


Baha05 posted...
Again you are under this notion that I have been shitting on Palworld and that has been 100% wrong.
Holy fucking shit



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Baha05
02/12/24 6:17:24 PM
#324:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Holy fucking shit

Not sure whats funny about it point out where Inhave directly shot on the game.

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dancing_cactuar
02/12/24 6:17:42 PM
#325:


Baha05 posted...
Again you are under this notion that I have been shitting on Palworld and that has been 100% wrong.
You literally entered this topic saying that it will always be a meme game, that it is nonexistent in its creativity, and that the developers are dishonest. Shitting not only on the game, but the people who made it. Real smooth.

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Tyranthraxus
02/12/24 6:21:36 PM
#326:


Baha05 posted...
Not sure whats funny about it point out where Inhave directly shot on the game.

Your literal first post in this topic

Baha05 posted...
Which is why I will always see Palworld as more of a meme game because the creativity in it is nonexistent

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WingsOfGood
02/12/24 6:21:58 PM
#327:


dancing_cactuar posted...
You literally entered this topic saying that it will always be a meme game and is nonexistent in its creativity.

"That is just your interpretation of my exact words for word!!"
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DuneMan
02/12/24 6:22:46 PM
#328:


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Yeah, it's basically [accessible] Ark with Pokemon, rather than the meme 'Pokemon with guns'. Things you can gather for crafting literally sparkle, and the game lays out obvious places for bases which often include most of those things.

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Tmaster148
02/12/24 6:23:02 PM
#329:


Baha05 posted...
It also ignores any differences between the two works.

It's really funny for you to say this considering you are going out of your way to ignore the differences between Palworld and Pokemon.

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Baha05
02/12/24 6:23:47 PM
#330:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Your literal first post in this topic
Thats not me shitting on it its me telling the truth because the fact that its word of mouth has been Pokmon with Guns and constantly compared to Pokmon means that its identity if just fucked. And given how the game looks the creativity to it is nonexistent because all its assets dont match.

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HA4e
02/12/24 6:23:53 PM
#331:


"See, see! wheeze Pokeripoffs will never dethrone Pokemon!!1"
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/3/32f248e6.jpg

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Tyranthraxus
02/12/24 6:26:44 PM
#332:


Baha05 posted...
Thats not me shitting on it its me telling the truth

I don't know how to respond to this.

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dancing_cactuar
02/12/24 6:28:21 PM
#333:


Baha05 posted...
Thats not me shitting on it its me telling the truth because the fact that its word of mouth has been Pokmon with Guns
Only if you're being dishonest and ignoring how people are also comparing it to Factorio/Satisfactory and ARK.

HA4e posted...
"See, see! wheeze Pokeripoffs will never dethrone Pokemon!!1"
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/3/32f248e6.jpg
"The Pokemon gens that don't look like they belong in the Gamecube era will be out when they're out!"


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Baha05
02/12/24 6:28:31 PM
#334:


HA4e posted...
"See, see! wheeze Pokeripoffs will never dethrone Pokemon!!1"
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/3/32f248e6.jpg
Sadly the only way to hit them the hardest is to basically get a concept good enough that it can also rival toy and media sales as a whole.

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WingsOfGood
02/12/24 6:28:41 PM
#335:


Tyranthraxus posted...
I don't know how to respond to this.

You don't. Let the man get himself.
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Baha05
02/12/24 6:29:33 PM
#336:


dancing_cactuar posted...
Only if you're being dishonest and ignoring how people are also comparing it to Factorio/Satisfactory and ARK.

"The Pokemon gens that don't look like they belong in the Gamecube era will be out when they're out!"
No people are making those comparisons too but the bulk of the points being brought up most of the time are Pokmon related which again is its biggest detriment and strength to Palworld.

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WingsOfGood
02/12/24 6:30:38 PM
#337:


Baha05 posted...
No people are making those comparisons too but the bulk of the points being brought up most of the time are Pokmon related which again is its biggest detriment and strength to Palworld.

Bro you HATE Palworld

Now concern trolling?
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Baha05
02/12/24 6:34:18 PM
#338:


WingsOfGood posted...
Bro you HATE Palworld

Now concern trolling?
Again point out where I stated I hated the game?

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Baha05
02/12/24 6:36:48 PM
#341:


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Because you choose to interpret it that way. Again I could give less of a shit if it took inspiration from it to form their own identity with it but the problem is that in some creature designs it takes TOO much inspiration to be close to exact clones of Pokmon and many people can see that.

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Prestoff
02/12/24 6:39:38 PM
#342:


Baha05 posted...
Thats not me shitting on it its me telling the truth because the fact that its word of mouth has been Pokmon with Guns and constantly compared to Pokmon means that its identity if just fucked. And given how the game looks the creativity to it is nonexistent because all its assets dont match.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/4/4a51d4ac.jpg

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Baha05
02/12/24 6:44:21 PM
#343:


Prestoff posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/4/4a51d4ac.jpg
State all you want its a legit criticism on the game as a whole. Like it doesnt even take long to deconstruct a screen shot to see that the game is kind of all over the place.

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DrizztLink
02/12/24 6:46:13 PM
#344:


Baha05 posted...
State all you want its a legit criticism on the game as a whole. Like it doesnt even take long to deconstruct a screen shot to see that the game is kind of all over the place.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/8579c08e.jpg

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lucariopikmin
02/12/24 6:49:30 PM
#346:


Baha05 posted...
Im sorry but repeating that notion doesnt make anything about it true.
It's very interesting how everyone else is wrong but the person who "cares" about that argument.

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WingsOfGood
02/12/24 6:52:37 PM
#347:


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damn
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Baha05
02/12/24 6:55:23 PM
#348:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Which again is more being critical about the game on that level of what the game is versus just outright saying its a shitty game and no one can enjoy it.

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LinkDaLunatic
02/12/24 6:56:21 PM
#349:


the thread has gone full dumb

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Tyranthraxus
02/12/24 6:57:19 PM
#350:


This is the part where I start checking my house for hidden cameras because I'm beginning to suspect I'm getting recorded for my reactions to this mental laxative of a topic.

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