Current Events > Woman with chronic fatigue has herself Euthanized is going viral

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other people making decisions about our bodily autonomy is the grossest thing ever

When you only have one life to live and then your consciousness is erased from existence, it seems pretty weak to off yourself for chronic fatigue of all things.

21 post is far from going viral Id say.

But looking up the condition it seems like something I dont think anyone would want to live with for life.

I mean, we DO have the ability to choose to end our lives whenever we wish.
I don't see the issue with making it legal to have it done by a medical practitioner as apposed to blowing our brains out or making an exit hood or something.

maybe she had depression?

I believe that people should have a choice there but that pic is just dark.

Whether I agreed with her choice or not, I would never interfere with it.

I'm firmly the camp that no one should live with suffering. If the person is sure this is the best option for them instead of living in pain and there's no evidence of suicidal tendencies, I don't see many reasons to deny them. It's a harsh reality but not everyone can live a healthy life, it's cruelty to force a life of pain on someone. Certainly not something you'd want to experience for yourself or a loved one, if you knew they'd be in pain and there's no solution.

Sure we should be entitled to that decision if we're capable of it.

fucking wow @ that meme

I dunno what the poll is asking but I definitely do not want someone else deciding I should be euthanized.

Sad, but its her life.

GEKGanon posted...

When you only have one life to live and then your consciousness is erased from existence, it seems pretty weak to off yourself for chronic fatigue of all things.

I dunno, depending on the severity and frequency of them, the symptoms sound pretty miserable to me.

In addition to severe fatigue, symptoms include light sensitivity, headache, muscle and joint pain, difficulty concentrating, mood swings, and depression.

Way better than other methods that may harm/kill bystanders

Tyranthraxus posted...

I dunno what the poll is asking but I definitely do not want someone else deciding I should be euthanized.

The poll is crystal clear. Its not about someone else deciding it. Its about you deciding it for yourself.

GEKGanon posted...

When you only have one life to live and then your consciousness is erased from existence, it seems pretty weak to off yourself for chronic fatigue of all things.

jesus dude did you take time off protesting planned parenthood to make this post?

The medical community isnt sure that chronic fatigue syndrome is even real.

Asking people I'll never meet to suffer so I can pretend I have moral integrity is absurd. Asking loved ones to suffer is even worse

Never got the people insisting life is precious/important because it's finite/short/singular. Fuck off and let those who wish to die do so.

You have a right to life. You cannot say you don't have a right not to live if you so choose. Your life is yours to live, or not live, as you see fit.

radical_rhino posted...

The medical community isnt sure that chronic fatigue syndrome is even real.

I dunno why we even need a reason. The process should just be like "Why do you want to kill yourself?" "idk" "you understand this is irreversible?" "Yeah" "ok into the pod you go"

I don't know enough about her condition to have an informed opinion.

the medical community's outdated refusal to de-stigmatize euthanasia is revolting.

rather than have a bunch of people unalive themselves in gruesome ways, why can't we just have death doulas or something to ease people into it safely and painlessly

rather than let people turn into shells from Alzheimer's or cancer, why can't doctors just ease their suffering? it's stupid and backwards.

obviously not any sad person should be able to just ask for it, but it really should be easier than it currently is (which is basically impossible in the U.S.)

colliding posted...

obviously not any sad person should be able to just ask for it,

Why not tho?

colliding posted...

the medical community's outdated refusal to de-stigmatize euthanasia is revolting.

rather than have a bunch of people unalive themselves in gruesome ways, why can't we just have death doulas or something to ease people into it safely and painlessly

rather than let people turn into shells from Alzheimer's or cancer, why can't doctors just ease their suffering? it's stupid and backwards.

obviously not any sad person should be able to just ask for it, but it really should be easier than it currently is (which is basically impossible in the U.S.)

it's really not all on the medical community. I've worked in nursing homes for a long time, and most of the time the people drawing out the life are the family.

the medical community could come out and say "PSA: let your parents die when they aren't going to get better", but the general public wouldn't receive it well. doctors want to save people they can save. they usually know when a cause is lost, but have to do what the family wants.

and it's not like this woman just decided one day she wanted euthanasia. she probably spent months or years talking to doctors about it

I'm honestly surprised by the pro-euthenasia side of this debate. It's like some people have never heard of psychotic episode, treatable mental illness, or cognitive behavioral therapy.

In other words, oftentimes, but not every single time, suicidal people are caught up in their emotions, not thinking clearly, and forgotten who they are.

Euthanasia on demand is a bad idea, because in many situations those awful feelings will pass.

Furthermore, a lot of people who are suicidal are actually just crying for help.

Chronic fatigue sounds miserable. I had fatigue once and it sucked. Couldn't imagine that every day.

cory_droid posted...

I'm honestly surprised by the pro-euthenasia side of this debate. It's like some people have never heard of psychotic episode, treatable mental illness, or cognitive behavioral therapy.

In other words, oftentimes, but not every single time, suicidal people are caught up in their emotions, not thinking clearly, and forgotten who they are.

Euthanasia on demand is a bad idea, because in many situations those awful feelings will pass.

Furthermore, a lot of people who are suicidal are actually just crying for help.

Has anyone been euthanized because they have a treatable depressive episode? Do you think we'll have doctors euthanizing patients who broke their arm?

While I definitely agree with assisted suicide, where do you draw the line between suicide because of depression vs chronic pain? If the illness is treatable, should it be allowed still? Bodily autonomy says yes, but then why do people who attempt suicide get locked up?

C_Pain posted...

While I definitely agree with assisted suicide, where do you draw the line between suicide because of depression vs chronic pain? If the illness is treatable, should it be allowed still? Bodily autonomy says yes, but then why do people who attempt suicide get locked up?

It shouldnt even require an illness or anything.

Yes, people should be able to make that decision for themselves. I'd imagine with the amount of time that it takes to set up, if it was just suicidal ideations from depression, they'd have time to back out. Or at least that would be my hope, that they catch those cases and don't actually move forward.

Prismsblade posted...

21 post is far from going viral Id say.

But looking up the condition it seems like something I dont think anyone would want to live with for life.

Welcome to a DarkPrince/NoName topic where he calls almost every tweet "viral"

cory_droid posted...

I'm honestly surprised by the pro-euthenasia side of this debate. It's like some people have never heard of psychotic episode, treatable mental illness, or cognitive behavioral therapy.

In other words, oftentimes, but not every single time, suicidal people are caught up in their emotions, not thinking clearly, and forgotten who they are.

Euthanasia on demand is a bad idea, because in many situations those awful feelings will pass.

Furthermore, a lot of people who are suicidal are actually just crying for help.

It wouldnt be approved so quickly that those situations would come into play. The approval process would be very in depth and lengthy. Its not like someone who had one bad episode and is feeling off for a short period would make it through this.

Waxitron_Gazer posted...

jesus dude did you take time off protesting planned parenthood to make this post?

I'm sure your comment made sense to you at least.

The average doctor is still ethical and is supposed to save people that can be saved, so euthanasia "on demand" will not get out of hand unless they start building suicide booths on every corner.

I'd rather go out on my own terms than a debilitating one.

People should have the right to die, but I also feel less strongly than I did just 5 years ago where my reason for that is I wanted that right to die for myself.

I am now much happier, and would not have realized it was possible if I had a choice back then.

If you ask me, assisted suicide should be legal, but strictly regulated. As in, only under certain conditions. Basically, the person has to be dying, and/or in incredible pain. And counseling to make sure da patient has given this decision da long thoughtful consideration it demands.

GEKGanon posted...

I'm sure your comment made sense to you at least.

you give off real pro-lifer vib-

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ah ok nvm i won't waste my breath.

I believe in Body Autonomy

It's up to her, not you or me

I don't really support suicide but I guess anyone has the right to kill themselves at any point anyways so if it's gonna happen I'd prefer it be allowed to be done humanely and in a controlled environment so we don't have situations where people shoot their jaws off in a failed suicide attempt and then writhe on the floor in pain.

cory_droid posted...

I'm honestly surprised by the pro-euthenasia side of this debate. It's like some people have never heard of psychotic episode, treatable mental illness, or cognitive behavioral therapy.

In other words, oftentimes, but not every single time, suicidal people are caught up in their emotions, not thinking clearly, and forgotten who they are.

Euthanasia on demand is a bad idea, because in many situations those awful feelings will pass.

Furthermore, a lot of people who are suicidal are actually just crying for help.

Careful with that last sentence there. I got suspended for saying that before.

Her body her choice

NoxObscuras posted...

Yes, people should be able to make that decision for themselves. I'd imagine with the amount of time that it takes to set up, if it was just suicidal ideations from depression, they'd have time to back out. Or at least that would be my hope, that they catch those cases and don't actually move forward.

Welcome to a DarkPrince/NoName topic where he calls almost every tweet "viral

3 million views and 20k likes is viral

The tweet is set to only have comments allowed by people they followed. That's why it has so little.

It absolutely is a viral tweet.

Fully support assisted suicide for any reason.

A good friend's mother was suffering immensely from cancer and decided to take this path. Luckily it's legal in the Netherlands

I love how people have the gall to insist "you" don't have the right end your life, but a governing body of strangers has the right to.