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Trumble 02/03/24 3:21:42 PM #250:	hockeybabe89 posted... If I must choose between getting socked in the jaw and getting my head chopped off, I'm not supportive of violence because I chose the punch instead of having "principles and leaving my fate up to chance. I just live in reality and have a basic sense of survival and damage mitigation. If you also have the option to influence the outcome to the same degree, towards just getting called a nasty name instead of either of those, or even better, towards no negative action at all; can you really say you don't "support violence" if you still choose the punch in the face? --- Chicken butt. <cite>Trumble posted [p:978635071] in GOP rep: P... [t:80686016]...</cite> <quote>hockeybabe89 posted... </cite><quote>If I must choose between getting socked in the jaw and getting my head chopped off, I'm not supportive of violence because I chose the punch instead of having "principles and leaving my fate up to chance. I just live in reality and have a basic sense of survival and damage mitigation.</quote>If you also have the option to influence the outcome to the same degree, towards just getting called a nasty name instead of either of those, or even better, towards no negative action at all; can you really say you don't "support violence" if you still choose the punch in the face? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybabe89 02/03/24 3:22:42 PM #251:	lderivedx posted... You've got no leverage to "push" Biden to be better, at least via voting, unless you're willing to withhold your vote. As for the other two or three of you: saying "we should vote for genocide because voting for 'genocide + 1' would be worse" is not morally virtuous nor sophisticated. It's child-like. Well forgive me for not being mature and letting a fascist kill everyone like me because it might push the Democrats into a morally virtuous position decades from now. --- https://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png she/her <cite>hockeybabe89 posted [p:978635089] in GOP rep: P... [t:80686016]...</cite> <quote>lderivedx posted... </cite><quote>You've got no leverage to "push" Biden to be better, at least via voting, unless you're willing to withhold your vote.As for the other two or three of you: saying "we should vote for genocide because voting for 'genocide + 1' would be worse" is not morally virtuous nor sophisticated. It's child-like.</quote>Well forgive me for not being mature and letting a fascist kill everyone like me because it might push the Democrats into a morally virtuous position decades from now. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lderivedx 02/03/24 3:26:02 PM #252:	uwnim posted... If my choice is genocide or the same genocide + another one, then the only option I can morally choose is the single genocide. If the first genocide happens regardless, then I am not responsible for it. However, if I fail to try to stop the 2nd one, then I am responsible if that one happens. "I will vote for genocide as long as it's not worse" is just abhorrent. Zero moral standards. --- i cant get off unless we're violating at least four OSHA regulations <cite>lderivedx posted [p:978635153] in GOP rep: P... [t:80686016]...</cite> <quote>uwnim posted... </cite><quote>If my choice is genocide or the same genocide + another one, then the only option I can morally choose is the single genocide. If the first genocide happens regardless, then I am not responsible for it. However, if I fail to try to stop the 2nd one, then I am responsible if that one happens.</quote>"I will vote for genocide as long as it's not worse" is just abhorrent. Zero moral standards. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 02/03/24 3:27:36 PM #253:	lderivedx posted... "I will vote for genocide as long as it's not worse" is just abhorrent. Zero moral standards. If it really were a situation where people were forced to pick one of those two choices and had no other option, including they could not refuse to support either, that poster's logic would be fair enough. --- Chicken butt. <cite>Trumble posted [p:978635180] in GOP rep: P... [t:80686016]...</cite> <quote>lderivedx posted... </cite><quote>"I will vote for genocide as long as it's not worse" is just abhorrent. Zero moral standards.</quote>If it really were a situation where people were forced to pick one of those two choices and had no other option, including they could not refuse to support either, that poster's logic would be fair enough. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bfslick50 02/03/24 3:29:15 PM #254:	lderivedx posted... "I will vote for genocide as long as it's not worse" is just abhorrent. Zero moral standards. I will stand by and do nothing to prevent the next genocide is not morally superior. Were all compelled to act. Stop Trump and pressure Biden to improve. Biden has a track record of slow progress, Trump does not. --- "Something's wrong! Murder isn't working and that's all we're good at." ~Futurama <cite>bfslick50 posted [p:978635216] in GOP rep: P... [t:80686016]...</cite> <quote>lderivedx posted... </cite><quote>"I will vote for genocide as long as it's not worse" is just abhorrent. Zero moral standards.</quote>I will stand by and do nothing to prevent the next genocide is not morally superior. Were all compelled to act. Stop Trump and pressure Biden to improve. Biden has a track record of slow progress, Trump does not. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 02/03/24 3:31:09 PM #255:	bfslick50 posted... I will stand by and do nothing to prevent the next genocide is not morally superior. Were all compelled to act. Stop Trump and pressure Biden to improve. Biden has a track record of slow progress, Trump does not. Slow progress isn't good enough when Israel is getting away with killing hundreds of civilians per day and the US is actively enabling them to do so. Allowing Biden to win despite his support for this is saying you don't care if it continues. Not to mention, if enough people are out there saying they're not going to vote for him unless he changes, maybe that will push him to change before the election. Besides, you're using "preventing the next one" as a reason to not take a stand against the current one that could still be stopped. --- Chicken butt. <cite>Trumble posted [p:978635257] in GOP rep: P... [t:80686016]...</cite> <quote>bfslick50 posted... </cite><quote>I will stand by and do nothing to prevent the next genocide is not morally superior. Were all compelled to act. Stop Trump and pressure Biden to improve. Biden has a track record of slow progress, Trump does not.</quote>Slow progress isn't good enough when Israel is getting away with killing hundreds of civilians per day and the US is actively enabling them to do so.Allowing Biden to win despite his support for this is saying you don't care if it continues. Not to mention, if enough people are out there saying they're not going to vote for him unless he changes, maybe that will push him to change before the election.Besides, you're using "preventing the next one" as a reason to not take a stand against the current one that could still be stopped. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybabe89 02/03/24 3:32:30 PM #256:	Trumble posted... If your conscience will allow you to vote for someone who is actively enabling genocide and will continue to do so, then that's on you. You aren't forced to vote for either of them. It's entirely on you if you choose to do so anyway. I actually am forced. You can't actually be an adult human being and think the only thing holding society back is regular people not believing hard enough in change. And I would like to know what kind of fucked conscience can't handle America having foreign allies that are evil, but can rest easy when America turns into a fascist hellhole. People drowning in empathy and love for others would be incapable of sitting idly and letting everyone burn. They wouldn't hesitate at the track switch because "Is saving anyone fair to the people stuck on the trolley?" --- https://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png she/her <cite>hockeybabe89 posted [p:978635280] in GOP rep: P... [t:80686016]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>If your conscience will allow you to vote for someone who is actively enabling genocide and will continue to do so, then that's on you.You aren't forced to vote for either of them. It's entirely on you if you choose to do so anyway.</quote>I actually am forced.You can't actually be an adult human being and think the only thing holding society back is regular people not believing hard enough in change.And I would like to know what kind of fucked conscience can't handle America having foreign allies that are evil, but can rest easy when America turns into a fascist hellhole. People drowning in empathy and love for others would be incapable of sitting idly and letting everyone burn. They wouldn't hesitate at the track switch because "Is saving anyone fair to the people stuck on the trolley?" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 02/03/24 3:33:25 PM #257:	hockeybabe89 posted... And I would like to know what kind of fucked conscience can't handle America having foreign allies that are evil, but can rest easy when America turns into a fascist hellhole. Once again, no one is supporting that either. You do not have to support one or the other. You are simply making excuses to justify voting for a person who is enabling and supporting a current ongoing genocide. --- Chicken butt. <cite>Trumble posted [p:978635295] in GOP rep: P... [t:80686016]...</cite> <quote>hockeybabe89 posted... </cite><quote>And I would like to know what kind of fucked conscience can't handle America having foreign allies that are evil, but can rest easy when America turns into a fascist hellhole.</quote>Once again, no one is supporting that either. You do not have to support one or the other.You are simply making excuses to justify voting for a person who is enabling and supporting a current ongoing genocide. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
uwnim 02/03/24 3:34:52 PM #258:	lderivedx posted... "I will vote for genocide as long as it's not worse" is just abhorrent. Zero moral standards. No. It is having coherent moral standards instead of pretending I'm better if I just ignore it and let other people decide. --- I want a pet Lavos Spawn. [Order of the Cetaceans: Phocoena dioptrica] <cite>uwnim posted [p:978635330] in GOP rep: P... [t:80686016]...</cite> <quote>lderivedx posted... </cite><quote>"I will vote for genocide as long as it's not worse" is just abhorrent. Zero moral standards.</quote>No. It is having coherent moral standards instead of pretending I'm better if I just ignore it and let other people decide. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lderivedx 02/03/24 3:35:09 PM #259:	Trumble posted... If it really were a situation where people were forced to pick one of those two choices and had no other option, including they could not refuse to support either, that poster's logic would be fair enough. Sure, but it's not. I called the other people responding to me child-like in part because they're pretending it is. bfslick50 posted... I will stand by and do nothing to prevent the next genocide is not morally superior. Were all compelled to act. You're more fired up about stopping a potential future genocide than one that's currently happening. That's interesting. uwnim posted... No. It is having coherent moral standards instead of pretending I'm better if I just ignore it and let other people decide. Again, "I will vote for genocide as long as it's not worse" is not having standards. --- i cant get off unless we're violating at least four OSHA regulations <cite>lderivedx posted [p:978635337] in GOP rep: P... [t:80686016]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>If it really were a situation where people were forced to pick one of those two choices and had no other option, including they could not refuse to support either, that poster's logic would be fair enough.</quote>Sure, but it's not. I called the other people responding to me child-like in part because they're pretending it is.bfslick50 posted... </cite><quote>I will stand by and do nothing to prevent the next genocide is not morally superior. Were all compelled to act.</quote>You're more fired up about stopping a potential future genocide than one that's currently happening. That's interesting.uwnim posted... </cite><quote>No. It is having coherent moral standards instead of pretending I'm better if I just ignore it and let other people decide.</quote>Again, "I will vote for genocide as long as it's not worse" is not having standards. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 02/03/24 3:37:30 PM #260:	uwnim posted... No. It is having coherent moral standards instead of pretending I'm better if I just ignore it and let other people decide. You can put exactly the same amount of influence on the result towards an option that supports neither, as you can towards an option that supports less genocides but still supports some. If you vote for the less genocides option, when you have an option that doesn't support any genocides, you are still voting for genocide. --- Chicken butt. <cite>Trumble posted [p:978635386] in GOP rep: P... [t:80686016]...</cite> <quote>uwnim posted... </cite><quote>No. It is having coherent moral standards instead of pretending I'm better if I just ignore it and let other people decide.</quote>You can put exactly the same amount of influence on the result towards an option that supports neither, as you can towards an option that supports less genocides but still supports some.If you vote for the less genocides option, when you have an option that doesn't support any genocides, you are still voting for genocide. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybabe89 02/03/24 3:38:14 PM #261:	lderivedx posted... "I will vote for genocide as long as it's not worse" is just abhorrent. Zero moral standards. You wouldn't know morals if they bit you in the ass. Shut the fuck up, get banned, and keep your worthless opinions to yourself. There is one reality and you have to live in it. When presented with a choice, you pick the one that does the least harm, not wish really hard that no one could be harmed and then watch everyone get harmed, patting yourself on the back for refusing to make a choice. --- https://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png she/her <cite>hockeybabe89 posted [p:978635393] in GOP rep: P... [t:80686016]...</cite> <quote>lderivedx posted... </cite><quote>"I will vote for genocide as long as it's not worse" is just abhorrent. Zero moral standards.</quote>You wouldn't know morals if they bit you in the ass. Shut the fuck up, get banned, and keep your worthless opinions to yourself. There is one reality and you have to live in it. When presented with a choice, you pick the one that does the least harm, not wish really hard that no one could be harmed and then watch everyone get harmed, patting yourself on the back for refusing to make a choice. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
uwnim 02/03/24 3:39:42 PM #262:	lderivedx posted... Again, "I will vote for genocide as long as it's not worse" is not having standards. It is having standards. Refusing to pick because you dislike either option is fucked up and entirely self-serving. It does nothing to help anyone, it just lets you pretend you are superior to anyone who made a decision. --- I want a pet Lavos Spawn. [Order of the Cetaceans: Phocoena dioptrica] <cite>uwnim posted [p:978635418] in GOP rep: P... [t:80686016]...</cite> <quote>lderivedx posted... </cite><quote>Again, "I will vote for genocide as long as it's not worse" is not having standards.</quote>It is having standards. Refusing to pick because you dislike either option is fucked up and entirely self-serving. It does nothing to help anyone, it just lets you pretend you are superior to anyone who made a decision. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
uwnim 02/03/24 3:40:57 PM #263:	Trumble posted... If you vote for the less genocides option, when you have an option that doesn't support any genocides, you are still voting for genocide. Show me an option that doesn't support any genocides. Like a real option. Not a pretend one. --- I want a pet Lavos Spawn. [Order of the Cetaceans: Phocoena dioptrica] <cite>uwnim posted [p:978635449] in GOP rep: P... [t:80686016]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>If you vote for the less genocides option, when you have an option that doesn't support any genocides, you are still voting for genocide.</quote>Show me an option that doesn't support any genocides. Like a real option. Not a pretend one. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybabe89 02/03/24 3:41:16 PM #264:	Trumble posted... If you vote for the less genocides option, when you have an option that doesn't support any genocides, you are still voting for genocide. Now what does that have to do with the real world? --- https://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png she/her <cite>hockeybabe89 posted [p:978635454] in GOP rep: P... [t:80686016]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>If you vote for the less genocides option, when you have an option that doesn't support any genocides, you are still voting for genocide.</quote>Now what does that have to do with the real world? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 02/03/24 3:43:05 PM #265:	hockeybabe89 posted... Now what does that have to do with the real world? You can vote third party. You can refuse to vote at all. But you continue to make excuses to vote for a candidate who supports genocide. You're telling that candidate "yes, it's okay to support genocide as long as you support at least one less genocide than your closest competitor does". --- Chicken butt. <cite>Trumble posted [p:978635481] in GOP rep: P... [t:80686016]...</cite> <quote>hockeybabe89 posted... </cite><quote>Now what does that have to do with the real world?</quote>You can vote third party. You can refuse to vote at all. But you continue to make excuses to vote for a candidate who supports genocide. You're telling that candidate "yes, it's okay to support genocide as long as you support at least one less genocide than your closest competitor does". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lderivedx 02/03/24 3:47:07 PM #266:	uwnim posted... it just lets you pretend you are superior to anyone who made a decision. Refusing to vote for genocide is a decision. Framing it as indecision is just a way to justify to yourself why voting for genocide is acceptable. hockeybabe89 posted... There is one reality and you have to live in it. When presented with a choice, you pick the one that does the least harm, not wish really hard that no one could be harmed and then watch everyone get harmed, patting yourself on the back for refusing to make a choice. People arguing that we should vote for genocide really shouldn't act like they're the adults in the room. You're not. Trumble posted... You're telling that candidate "yes, it's okay to support genocide as long as you support at least one less genocide than your closest competitor does". They know this and further they think that's a good thing. --- i cant get off unless we're violating at least four OSHA regulations <cite>lderivedx posted [p:978635535] in GOP rep: P... [t:80686016]...</cite> <quote>uwnim posted... </cite><quote>it just lets you pretend you are superior to anyone who made a decision.</quote>Refusing to vote for genocide is a decision. Framing it as indecision is just a way to justify to yourself why voting for genocide is acceptable.hockeybabe89 posted... </cite><quote>There is one reality and you have to live in it. When presented with a choice, you pick the one that does the least harm, not wish really hard that no one could be harmed and then watch everyone get harmed, patting yourself on the back for refusing to make a choice.</quote>People arguing that we should vote for genocide really shouldn't act like they're the adults in the room. You're not.Trumble posted... </cite><quote>You're telling that candidate "yes, it's okay to support genocide as long as you support at least one less genocide than your closest competitor does".</quote>They know this and further they think that's a good thing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hornezz 02/03/24 3:48:26 PM #268:	uwnim posted... If my choice is genocide or the same genocide + another one, then the only option I can morally choose is the single genocide. If the first genocide happens regardless, then I am not responsible for it. However, if I fail to try to stop the 2nd one, then I am responsible if that one happens. The unconditional support for Israel is not some inevitable, unavoidable law of nature. It's entirely a choice made by those in power. Applying electoral pressure can get a politician to reverse course. If caring for Palestinian lives is not motivation enough, then the risk of losing the election might be. A majority of democrats want a cease fire and disapprove of Biden's handling of the situation. Half of democrats believe Israel is currently committing a genocide. If winning the election and preventing another Trump presidency truly is the top priority then unwavering support for Israel might not be the winning strategy. --- In dentibus anticis frustum magnum spinaciae habes. <cite>Hornezz posted [p:978635554] in GOP rep: P... [t:80686016]...</cite> <quote>uwnim posted... </cite><quote>If my choice is genocide or the same genocide + another one, then the only option I can morally choose is the single genocide. If the first genocide happens regardless, then I am not responsible for it. However, if I fail to try to stop the 2nd one, then I am responsible if that one happens.</quote>The unconditional support for Israel is not some inevitable, unavoidable law of nature. It's entirely a choice made by those in power. Applying electoral pressure can get a politician to reverse course. If caring for Palestinian lives is not motivation enough, then the risk of losing the election might be.A majority of democrats want a cease fire and disapprove of Biden's handling of the situation. Half of democrats believe Israel is currently committing a genocide. If winning the election and preventing another Trump presidency truly is the top priority then unwavering support for Israel might not be the winning strategy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CADE_FOSTER 02/03/24 3:49:39 PM #269:	ricemills gonna have all his alts in timeout soon <cite>CADE_FOSTER posted [p:978635585] in GOP rep: P... [t:80686016]...</cite> <quote>ricemills gonna have all his alts in timeout soon</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SaikyoStyle 02/03/24 3:52:00 PM #270:	You forget that Democrats are largely fine with republicans having power. --- Taxes, death, and trouble. Brunt/Gaila 2024. Make Ferenginar Great Again! <cite>SaikyoStyle posted [p:978635622] in GOP rep: P... [t:80686016]...</cite> <quote>You forget that Democrats are largely fine with republicans having power. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
uwnim 02/03/24 3:52:08 PM #271:	lderivedx posted... Refusing to vote for genocide is a decision. Framing it as indecision is just a way to justify to yourself why voting for genocide is acceptable. We have fundamentally different moralities. Yours has refusing to vote as the best option, mine has it as something horrible. Continuing this will not be productive and so I will no longer engage in this conversation. --- I want a pet Lavos Spawn. [Order of the Cetaceans: Phocoena dioptrica] <cite>uwnim posted [p:978635626] in GOP rep: P... [t:80686016]...</cite> <quote>lderivedx posted... </cite><quote>Refusing to vote for genocide is a decision. Framing it as indecision is just a way to justify to yourself why voting for genocide is acceptable.</quote>We have fundamentally different moralities. Yours has refusing to vote as the best option, mine has it as something horrible. Continuing this will not be productive and so I will no longer engage in this conversation. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bfslick50 02/03/24 3:54:31 PM #273:	lderivedx posted... You're more fired up about stopping a potential future genocide than one that's currently happening. That's interesting. I stop what I can stop. How is not voting for Biden helping you stop the current one? Trumble posted... Allowing Biden to win despite his support for this is saying you don't care if it continues. Not to mention, if enough people are out there saying they're not going to vote for him unless he changes, maybe that will push him to change before the election. Besides, you're using "preventing the next one" as a reason to not take a stand against the current one that could still be stopped. Getting Biden to change is his stance is what's needed to stop the current one. He's changed his stance of forgiving student loans, on gay marriage, on a host of topics. A career politician sensing the winds and changing his stance is normal and realistic. How is getting Biden out of office going to stop the current one? --- "Something's wrong! Murder isn't working and that's all we're good at." ~Futurama <cite>bfslick50 posted [p:978635658] in GOP rep: P... [t:80686016]...</cite> <quote>lderivedx posted... </cite><quote>You're more fired up about stopping a potential future genocide than one that's currently happening. That's interesting.</quote>I stop what I can stop. How is not voting for Biden helping you stop the current one?Trumble posted... </cite><quote>Allowing Biden to win despite his support for this is saying you don't care if it continues. Not to mention, if enough people are out there saying they're not going to vote for him unless he changes, maybe that will push him to change before the election.Besides, you're using "preventing the next one" as a reason to not take a stand against the current one that could still be stopped.</quote>Getting Biden to change is his stance is what's needed to stop the current one. He's changed his stance of forgiving student loans, on gay marriage, on a host of topics. A career politician sensing the winds and changing his stance is normal and realistic. How is getting Biden out of office going to stop the current one? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SaikyoStyle 02/03/24 3:56:36 PM #275:	hockeybabe89 posted... So I should fucking kill myself and stop abiding by their rules? No thanks. Sorry that was directed at Hornezz. --- Taxes, death, and trouble. Brunt/Gaila 2024. Make Ferenginar Great Again! <cite>SaikyoStyle posted [p:978635687] in GOP rep: P... [t:80686016]...</cite> <quote>hockeybabe89 posted... </cite><quote>So I should fucking kill myself and stop abiding by their rules? No thanks.</quote>Sorry that was directed at Hornezz. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 02/03/24 3:57:57 PM #276:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] I am saying that no genocide is better than any genocide, and if you are able to support no genocide, there is no justification for supporting any genocide, even if while doing so you choose to only support some genocides and not others. --- Chicken butt. <cite>Trumble posted [p:978635707] in GOP rep: P... [t:80686016]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> I am saying that no genocide is better than any genocide, and if you are able to support no genocide, there is no justification for supporting any genocide, even if while doing so you choose to only support some genocides and not others. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bfslick50 02/03/24 3:58:49 PM #277:	Trumble posted... I am saying that no genocide is better than any genocide, and if you are able to support no genocide, there is no justification for supporting any genocide, even if while doing so you choose to only support some genocides and not others. How is Biden losing going to end the genocide? --- "Something's wrong! Murder isn't working and that's all we're good at." ~Futurama <cite>bfslick50 posted [p:978635725] in GOP rep: P... [t:80686016]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>I am saying that no genocide is better than any genocide, and if you are able to support no genocide, there is no justification for supporting any genocide, even if while doing so you choose to only support some genocides and not others.</quote>How is Biden losing going to end the genocide? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybabe89 02/03/24 3:59:41 PM #278:	Hornezz posted... The unconditional support for Israel is not some inevitable, unavoidable law of nature. It's entirely a choice made by those in power. Applying electoral pressure can get a politician to reverse course. If caring for Palestinian lives is not motivation enough, then the risk of losing the election might be. A majority of democrats want a cease fire and disapprove of Biden's handling of the situation. Half of democrats believe Israel is currently committing a genocide. If winning the election and preventing another Trump presidency truly is the top priority then unwavering support for Israel might not be the winning strategy. So women don't want rights and all LGBTQ people want to die if Biden won't be the most revolutionary president in history and end American support of Israel? We need to vote for Biden no matter what because we will all be destroyed if we do not. How the fuck does anyone need any other motivation to vote for the less harmful option? Our lives depend on it. Principles will mean less than shit when we're all fucking dead. Try changing anything then. --- https://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png she/her <cite>hockeybabe89 posted [p:978635741] in GOP rep: P... [t:80686016]...</cite> <quote>Hornezz posted... </cite><quote>The unconditional support for Israel is not some inevitable, unavoidable law of nature. It's entirely a choice made by those in power. Applying electoral pressure can get a politician to reverse course. If caring for Palestinian lives is not motivation enough, then the risk of losing the election might be.A majority of democrats want a cease fire and disapprove of Biden's handling of the situation. Half of democrats believe Israel is currently committing a genocide. If winning the election and preventing another Trump presidency truly is the top priority then unwavering support for Israel might not be the winning strategy.</quote>So women don't want rights and all LGBTQ people want to die if Biden won't be the most revolutionary president in history and end American support of Israel?We need to vote for Biden no matter what because we will all be destroyed if we do not. How the fuck does anyone need any other motivation to vote for the less harmful option? Our lives depend on it. Principles will mean less than shit when we're all fucking dead. Try changing anything then. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SaikyoStyle 02/03/24 3:59:53 PM #279:	bfslick50 posted... How is Biden losing going to end the genocide? You dont really want to know the answer to that question. --- Taxes, death, and trouble. Brunt/Gaila 2024. Make Ferenginar Great Again! <cite>SaikyoStyle posted [p:978635745] in GOP rep: P... [t:80686016]...</cite> <quote>bfslick50 posted... </cite><quote>How is Biden losing going to end the genocide?</quote>You dont really want to know the answer to that question. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lderivedx 02/03/24 4:00:36 PM #280:	bfslick50 posted... How is not voting for Biden helping you stop the current one? By not voting for someone that will continue it. --- i cant get off unless we're violating at least four OSHA regulations <cite>lderivedx posted [p:978635758] in GOP rep: P... [t:80686016]...</cite> <quote>bfslick50 posted... </cite><quote>How is not voting for Biden helping you stop the current one?</quote>By not voting for someone that will continue it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Trumble 02/03/24 4:01:21 PM #281:	bfslick50 posted... How is Biden losing going to end the genocide? Voting for Biden is supporting the genocide. As is voting for Trump. Both Trump and Biden support it - we can see first hand that Biden is doing so, and it's not really hard to figure out that Trump obviously would too. The best possibility is that Biden realizes ahead of the election that supporting Israel will cost him the election, and changes his stance. That's not going to happen if people are still going to vote for him because "at least he won't support the next one". --- Chicken butt. <cite>Trumble posted [p:978635771] in GOP rep: P... [t:80686016]...</cite> <quote>bfslick50 posted... </cite><quote>How is Biden losing going to end the genocide?</quote>Voting for Biden is supporting the genocide. As is voting for Trump. Both Trump and Biden support it - we can see first hand that Biden is doing so, and it's not really hard to figure out that Trump obviously would too.The best possibility is that Biden realizes ahead of the election that supporting Israel will cost him the election, and changes his stance. That's not going to happen if people are still going to vote for him because "at least he won't support the next one". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybabe89 02/03/24 4:02:12 PM #282:	lderivedx posted... By not voting for someone that will continue it. The GOP is literally cheering on Israel and wants them to kill Palestine quicker and harder. So this is your decision in the real world: Do you want LGBTQ Americans to die because Palestinians are dead either way? There is no third choice. --- https://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png she/her <cite>hockeybabe89 posted [p:978635788] in GOP rep: P... [t:80686016]...</cite> <quote>lderivedx posted... </cite><quote>By not voting for someone that will continue it.</quote>The GOP is literally cheering on Israel and wants them to kill Palestine quicker and harder.So this is your decision in the real world: Do you want LGBTQ Americans to die because Palestinians are dead either way?There is no third choice. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 02/03/24 4:02:20 PM #283:	hockeybabe89 posted... So women don't want rights and all LGBTQ people want to die if Biden won't be the most revolutionary president in history and end American support of Israel? https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/b1b2ce2a.jpg --- Please don't be weird in my topics <cite>Antifar posted [p:978635791] in GOP rep: P... [t:80686016]...</cite> <quote>hockeybabe89 posted... </cite><quote>So women don't want rights and all LGBTQ people want to die if Biden won't be the most revolutionary president in history and end American support of Israel?</quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/b1b2ce2a.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cemith 02/03/24 4:05:27 PM #284:	lderivedx posted... Sure, but it's not. I called the other people responding to me child-like in part because they're pretending it is. bfslick50 posted... The ironic thing about boiling down Biden v Trump as "Genocide or Genocide +1" as though that's a difficult decision to make. Again, you can hold water for Palestine as a means of abstaining, but it rings hollow because all you do by abstaining is enable another one domestically. If you expect me to believe you're so zealous about protecting victims of genocide by doing literally nothing, I'm sorry but I don't buy it, it means nothing. --- https://i.ibb.co/2vRbyC0/Rosa-6.png "Friends don't let friends watch The Big Bang Theory" - mogar002 <cite>Cemith posted [p:978635826] in GOP rep: P... [t:80686016]...</cite> <quote>lderivedx posted... </cite><quote>Sure, but it's not. I called the other people responding to me child-like in part because they're pretending it is.bfslick50 posted...</quote>The ironic thing about boiling down Biden v Trump as "Genocide or Genocide +1" as though that's a difficult decision to make. Again, you can hold water for Palestine as a means of abstaining, but it rings hollow because all you do by abstaining is enable another one domestically. If you expect me to believe you're so zealous about protecting victims of genocide by doing literally nothing, I'm sorry but I don't buy it, it means nothing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bfslick50 02/03/24 4:05:29 PM #285:	lderivedx posted... By not voting for someone that will continue it. Inaction is not prevention. I really like the Catholic prayer that reads, "I have sinned in what I've done and what I've failed to do." If you not voting for Biden doesn't bring us a step closer to ending the genocide then it's not an act to end the genocide. How does not voting for Biden help end the genocide? I'm voting for the person more likely to change their mind and stop it. That's a mechanism to stop it. How is not voting going to bring about stopping it? --- "Something's wrong! Murder isn't working and that's all we're good at." ~Futurama <cite>bfslick50 posted [p:978635827] in GOP rep: P... [t:80686016]...</cite> <quote>lderivedx posted... </cite><quote>By not voting for someone that will continue it.</quote>Inaction is not prevention. I really like the Catholic prayer that reads, "I have sinned in what I've done and what I've failed to do." If you not voting for Biden doesn't bring us a step closer to ending the genocide then it's not an act to end the genocide. How does not voting for Biden help end the genocide?I'm voting for the person more likely to change their mind and stop it. That's a mechanism to stop it. How is not voting going to bring about stopping it? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lderivedx 02/03/24 4:05:58 PM #286:	hockeybabe89 posted... Do you want LGBTQ Americans to die because Palestinians are dead either way? No. I'm not voting for Trump. Why is this confusing for you? bfslick50 posted... Inaction is not prevention. But it's not inaction. My vote is contingent on a candidate not supporting genocide. That puts pressure, to what extent is possible via elections, to have a candidate that doesn't support genocide. --- i cant get off unless we're violating at least four OSHA regulations <cite>lderivedx posted [p:978635839] in GOP rep: P... [t:80686016]...</cite> <quote>hockeybabe89 posted... </cite><quote>Do you want LGBTQ Americans to die because Palestinians are dead either way?</quote>No. I'm not voting for Trump. Why is this confusing for you?bfslick50 posted... </cite><quote>Inaction is not prevention.</quote>But it's not inaction. My vote is contingent on a candidate not supporting genocide. That puts pressure, to what extent is possible via elections, to have a candidate that doesn't support genocide. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybabe89 02/03/24 4:06:07 PM #287:	Antifar posted... https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/b1b2ce2a.jpg Anyone who won't vote for Biden in 2024 cares about no one and is content with all LGBTQ people being eradicated. That's facts. Both parties are bad, but one is less bad and no other option has any other possibility of succeeding. Anyone who cannot choose the lesser evil has bad morals and might as well actively participate in the greater evil. They don't have a single empathetic bone in their body. They just want everyone to die in a fire in some twisted sense of fairness. --- https://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png she/her <cite>hockeybabe89 posted [p:978635846] in GOP rep: P... [t:80686016]...</cite> <quote>Antifar posted... </cite><quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/b1b2ce2a.jpg</quote>Anyone who won't vote for Biden in 2024 cares about no one and is content with all LGBTQ people being eradicated. That's facts.Both parties are bad, but one is less bad and no other option has any other possibility of succeeding. Anyone who cannot choose the lesser evil has bad morals and might as well actively participate in the greater evil. They don't have a single empathetic bone in their body. They just want everyone to die in a fire in some twisted sense of fairness. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybabe89 02/03/24 4:06:27 PM #288:	lderivedx posted... No. I'm not voting for Trump. Why is this confusing for you? Trump will win and everyone will die if you don't vote for Biden You called me evil for voting to save hundreds of millions of Americans. Live in the real world of logic and start considering that maybe Biden changes nothing and you have to vote for the least damaging option, not a good one. Children shouldn't be voting anyway. --- https://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png she/her <cite>hockeybabe89 posted [p:978635850] in GOP rep: P... [t:80686016]...</cite> <quote>lderivedx posted... </cite><quote>No. I'm not voting for Trump. Why is this confusing for you?</quote>Trump will win and everyone will die if you don't vote for BidenYou called me evil for voting to save hundreds of millions of Americans.Live in the real world of logic and start considering that maybe Biden changes nothing and you have to vote for the least damaging option, not a good one. Children shouldn't be voting anyway. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lderivedx 02/03/24 4:09:19 PM #289:	hockeybabe89 posted... Trump will win and everyone will die if you don't vote for Biden Me? Personally? Who knew my vote had so much power. Question: are the people who want to eradicate LGBT people going to disappear or stop wanting that if their guy isn't in office? --- i cant get off unless we're violating at least four OSHA regulations <cite>lderivedx posted [p:978635885] in GOP rep: P... [t:80686016]...</cite> <quote>hockeybabe89 posted... </cite><quote>Trump will win and everyone will die if you don't vote for Biden</quote>Me? Personally? Who knew my vote had so much power.Question: are the people who want to eradicate LGBT people going to disappear or stop wanting that if their guy isn't in office? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SaikyoStyle 02/03/24 4:10:03 PM #290:	Refusing to take a stand here is utmost cowardice. --- Taxes, death, and trouble. Brunt/Gaila 2024. Make Ferenginar Great Again! <cite>SaikyoStyle posted [p:978635900] in GOP rep: P... [t:80686016]...</cite> <quote>Refusing to take a stand here is utmost cowardice. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GATTJT 02/03/24 4:11:51 PM #291:	lderivedx posted... Me? Personally? Who knew my vote had so much power. Question: are the people who want to eradicate LGBT people going to disappear or stop wanting that if their guy isn't in office? https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/4/43522436.jpg --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/gamerfanfan/wishlist Oops, we trained a monkey to be a fascist! <cite>GATTJT posted [p:978635932] in GOP rep: P... [t:80686016]...</cite> <quote>lderivedx posted... </cite><quote>Me? Personally? Who knew my vote had so much power.Question: are the people who want to eradicate LGBT people going to disappear or stop wanting that if their guy isn't in office?</quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/4/43522436.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybabe89 02/03/24 4:12:05 PM #292:	lderivedx posted... Me? Personally? Who knew my vote had so much power. Question: are the people who want to eradicate LGBT people going to disappear or stop wanting that if their guy isn't in office? No they won't, but that doesn't mean I'm going to abstain and let them win so they have the power to off me. Was it pointless for people to vote for Lincoln because racism still exists so many years later? What a stupid question --- https://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png she/her <cite>hockeybabe89 posted [p:978635938] in GOP rep: P... [t:80686016]...</cite> <quote>lderivedx posted... </cite><quote>Me? Personally? Who knew my vote had so much power.Question: are the people who want to eradicate LGBT people going to disappear or stop wanting that if their guy isn't in office?</quote>No they won't, but that doesn't mean I'm going to abstain and let them win so they have the power to off me. Was it pointless for people to vote for Lincoln because racism still exists so many years later? What a stupid question </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 02/03/24 4:12:24 PM #293:	hockeybabe89 posted... Anyone who won't vote for Biden in 2024 cares about no one and is content with all LGBTQ people being eradicated. That's facts. Anyone who will vote for Biden in 2024 cares about no one and is content with all Palestinians being eradicated. That's facts, and unlike your claim, is based on what the person being voted for supports, not what on another person who isn't being voted for either supports. --- Chicken butt. <cite>Trumble posted [p:978635943] in GOP rep: P... [t:80686016]...</cite> <quote>hockeybabe89 posted... </cite><quote>Anyone who won't vote for Biden in 2024 cares about no one and is content with all LGBTQ people being eradicated. That's facts.</quote>Anyone who will vote for Biden in 2024 cares about no one and is content with all Palestinians being eradicated. That's facts, and unlike your claim, is based on what the person being voted for supports, not what on another person who isn't being voted for either supports. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lderivedx 02/03/24 4:13:54 PM #294:	hockeybabe89 posted... No they won't, but that doesn't mean I'm going to abstain and let them win so they have the power to off me. Was it pointless for people to vote for Lincoln because racism still exists so many years later? What a stupid question Okay so what are the people in power going to do about those who want to eradicate LGBT people? Continue to treat them like coworkers? --- i cant get off unless we're violating at least four OSHA regulations <cite>lderivedx posted [p:978635957] in GOP rep: P... [t:80686016]...</cite> <quote>hockeybabe89 posted... </cite><quote>No they won't, but that doesn't mean I'm going to abstain and let them win so they have the power to off me. Was it pointless for people to vote for Lincoln because racism still exists so many years later? What a stupid question</quote>Okay so what are the people in power going to do about those who want to eradicate LGBT people? Continue to treat them like coworkers? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bfslick50 02/03/24 4:14:04 PM #296:	lderivedx posted... But it's not inaction. My vote is contingent on a candidate not supporting genocide. That puts pressure, to what extent is possible via elections, to have a candidate that doesn't support genocide. Not voting is not taking an action, the literal definition of inaction. It's not indecisive because you have a reason, but it is very much inaction. Action is voting for the candidate most likely to end it, and that's Biden. --- "Something's wrong! Murder isn't working and that's all we're good at." ~Futurama <cite>bfslick50 posted [p:978635959] in GOP rep: P... [t:80686016]...</cite> <quote>lderivedx posted... </cite><quote>But it's not inaction. My vote is contingent on a candidate not supporting genocide. That puts pressure, to what extent is possible via elections, to have a candidate that doesn't support genocide.</quote>Not voting is not taking an action, the literal definition of inaction. It's not indecisive because you have a reason, but it is very much inaction. Action is voting for the candidate most likely to end it, and that's Biden. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybabe89 02/03/24 4:14:51 PM #297:	GOP: Fuck every fucking Palestinian baby Non-voters: iunno maybe ousting Biden will save Palestine --- https://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png she/her <cite>hockeybabe89 posted [p:978635972] in GOP rep: P... [t:80686016]...</cite> <quote>GOP: Fuck every fucking Palestinian babyNon-voters: iunno maybe ousting Biden will save Palestine </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 02/03/24 4:15:29 PM #298:	bfslick50 posted... Action is voting for the candidate most likely to end it, and that's Biden. Until he actually takes meaningful steps towards ending it, he's no more likely to end it than Trump. --- Chicken butt. <cite>Trumble posted [p:978635984] in GOP rep: P... [t:80686016]...</cite> <quote>bfslick50 posted... </cite><quote>Action is voting for the candidate most likely to end it, and that's Biden.</quote>Until he actually takes meaningful steps towards ending it, he's no more likely to end it than Trump. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssb_yunglink2 02/03/24 4:16:29 PM #299:	some absolutely 0 IQ takes in this topic. Realistically in 2024, you have exactly 2 choices. Vote for Biden, who wont attempt to create a dictatorship for white christians, or vote for Trump, WHO ALREADY HAS A PLAN WRITTEN OUT TO DO THAT. Not voting against someone who wants to subvert the power of our elections is soft support of their ambitions. If you cant choose between Biden and Trump in 2024, fucking reevaluate yourself --- Hee Ho <cite>ssb_yunglink2 posted [p:978635996] in GOP rep: P... [t:80686016]...</cite> <quote>some absolutely 0 IQ takes in this topic. Realistically in 2024, you have exactly 2 choices. Vote for Biden, who wont attempt to create a dictatorship for white christians, or vote for Trump, WHO ALREADY HAS A PLAN WRITTEN OUT TO DO THAT. Not voting against someone who wants to subvert the power of our elections is soft support of their ambitions. If you cant choose between Biden and Trump in 2024, fucking reevaluate yourself </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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