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Will_VIIII
02/02/24 4:23:09 PM
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Foppe
02/02/24 4:24:24 PM
#52:


Born with the sins of their parents, where have I heard that before?

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EPR-radar
02/02/24 4:26:02 PM
#53:


Trumble posted...
Literally no one is saying this.
Everyone bellyaching about Biden not stopping Israel's attacks in Gaza immediately and threatening to not vote in the general election because of that is effectively saying exactly that Trump is better for the Palestinians, and these chowderheads have posted prolifically in the I/P topics here.
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mybbqrules
02/02/24 4:28:18 PM
#54:


EPR-radar posted...
Everyone bellyaching about Biden not stopping Israel's attacks in Gaza immediately and threatening to not vote in the general election because of that is effectively saying exactly that Trump is better for the Palestinians, and these chowderheads have posted prolifically in the I/P topics here.
@Trumble

This.

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Trumble
02/02/24 4:32:01 PM
#55:


EPR-radar posted...
Everyone bellyaching about Biden not stopping Israel's attacks in Gaza immediately and threatening to not vote in the general election because of that is effectively saying exactly that Trump is better for the Palestinians, and these chowderheads have posted prolifically in the I/P topics here.
No, they are not saying that.

If we're going to use that kind of troll logic, then by seeing that situation and knowing it will lose him votes and allow Trump to win, Biden is saying that he considers allowing Israel to wage genocide is more important than protecting any of the rights you're so worried about. Is that someone who deserves your vote?

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EPR-radar
02/02/24 4:35:45 PM
#56:


Trumble posted...
No, they are not saying that.
That's flat out denial of reality. If someone has the fate of Palestinians as their main issue and won't vote for Biden in the general election because Biden has disappointed them on that front, it must follow that they think Trump is better for Palestinians.

Otherwise, they would be actively choosing a worse option for Palestinians in a fit of privileged pique, and surely they aren't that stupid.
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Trumble
02/02/24 4:37:20 PM
#57:


EPR-radar posted...
That's flat out denial of reality. If someone has the fate of Palestinians as their main issue and won't vote for Biden in the general election because Biden has disappointed them on that front, it must follow that they think Trump is better for Palestinians.

Otherwise, they would be actively choosing a worse option for Palestinians in a fit of privileged pique, and surely they aren't that stupid.
They're not voting for Trump either, though. Does that mean they actually think Biden is better? How can they think both these things at once?

Maybe, just maybe, they just refuse to vote for anyone who supports Israel. Be it Biden, or Trump, or anyone else.

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EPR-radar
02/02/24 4:39:36 PM
#58:


Trumble posted...
They're not voting for Trump either, though.
That's not the point, but you refuse to see it.

The point is that they aren't voting against Trump in any meaningful way, and Trump is what we get if Biden doesn't win.
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thronedfire2
02/02/24 4:45:21 PM
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Trumble posted...
They're not voting for Trump either, though. Does that mean they actually think Biden is better? How can they think both these things at once?

Maybe, just maybe, they just refuse to vote for anyone who supports Israel. Be it Biden, or Trump, or anyone else.

and because of that we'll end up with Trump, who will make things 100x worse for Palestine

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Enclave
02/02/24 4:45:51 PM
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bnui_ransder posted...
So they are born WITH sin? I thought they followed religion

If you're Christian then yes, this is basically a central tenant of many sects of Christianity, it's like the whole point of baptism. Everybody is tainted by Eve's sin of eating the apple.

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Trumble
02/02/24 4:52:05 PM
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EPR-radar posted...
That's not the point, but you refuse to see it.

The point is that they aren't voting against Trump in any meaningful way, and Trump is what we get if Biden doesn't win.
No, Trump is what you get if Trump wins. There are other options, including both that the Democrats could refuse to nominate a candidate who supports Israel if they're really serious about stopping Trump, and that people could vote for a candidate not from one of these two parties.

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ItsNotA2Mer
02/02/24 4:58:19 PM
#63:


Trumble posted...
and that people could vote for a candidate not from one of these two parties.



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Baha05
02/02/24 5:03:25 PM
#64:


Enclave posted...
If you're Christian then yes, this is basically a central tenant of many sects of Christianity, it's like the whole point of baptism. Everybody is tainted by Eve's sin of eating the apple.
Which in retrospect and probably on purpose is also a way to basically blame women which is disgusting how far back that goes.

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Enclave
02/02/24 5:09:13 PM
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Baha05 posted...
Which in retrospect and probably on purpose is also a way to basically blame women which is disgusting how far back that goes.

Yes.

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Zikten
02/02/24 7:54:08 PM
#66:


Baha05 posted...
Which in retrospect and probably on purpose is also a way to basically blame women which is disgusting how far back that goes.
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ClayGuida
02/02/24 7:59:20 PM
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uwnim
02/02/24 8:00:48 PM
#68:


Trumble posted...
No, Trump is what you get if Trump wins. There are other options, including both that the Democrats could refuse to nominate a candidate who supports Israel if they're really serious about stopping Trump, and that people could vote for a candidate not from one of these two parties.
Humans have not solved the coordination problems needed to do that.

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Xatrion
02/02/24 8:42:07 PM
#69:


Actual terrorist calling children who've yet to even walk or talk, terrorists. Oh the irony. Pot meet kettle, etc.

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Trumble
02/02/24 8:43:27 PM
#70:


uwnim posted...
Humans have not solved the coordination problems needed to do that.
So instead, people try to blackmail others into supporting a candidate who's still fucking awful?

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ReiRei89
02/02/24 8:45:59 PM
#71:


Again we have "serious" users who think Trump won't genocide the Palestians even though as shown here the GOP are even more pro genocide than Biden and Dems ever will be.

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EPR-radar
02/02/24 8:55:14 PM
#72:


Trumble posted...
So instead, people try to blackmail others into supporting a candidate who's still fucking awful?
The time and place to do something about the awful state of the I/P issue in US politics is in contested D primaries. Anyone that can't be bothered to do that, and instead only whines about Biden when it's Biden v. Trump, can fuck right off and keep fucking off until the edge of the observable universe is reached.
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EPR-radar
02/02/24 8:56:21 PM
#73:


ReiRei89 posted...
Again we have "serious" users who think Trump won't genocide the Palestians even though as shown here the GOP are even more pro genocide than Biden and Dems ever will be.
Perhaps these nimrods who are so concerned about Palestinians would prefer the "peace" of a GOP/Likud final solution.
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Humble_Novice
02/02/24 9:00:20 PM
#74:


ReiRei89 posted...
Again we have "serious" users who think Trump won't genocide the Palestians even though as shown here the GOP are even more pro genocide than Biden and Dems ever will be.

EPR-radar posted...
Perhaps these nimrods who are so concerned about Palestinians would prefer the "peace" of a GOP/Likud final solution.
It's mostly the terminally online tankies who deem Biden as worse than Trump when it comes to genocide.

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Zero_Destroyer
02/02/24 9:22:09 PM
#75:


I think the Trump/Biden thing mostly boils down to a false dichotomy. If your primary concern is the status of Palestinians, neither is desirable. Biden killing less ultimately doesn't change that what's occurring is very blatantly a genocide that its supporters will walk back within time when the breadth of footage is so uncontestable it cannot be debated against.

Trump would definitely be worse but either way you're getting mass murder supported by the United States and that's just not a campaign pitch or GOTV concept. All Biden has to do is call for a ceasefire, if he chooses not too, it's ultimately on him.

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mybbqrules
02/02/24 10:30:07 PM
#76:


Trumble posted...
No, they are not saying that.

If we're going to use that kind of troll logic, then by seeing that situation and knowing it will lose him votes and allow Trump to win, Biden is saying that he considers allowing Israel to wage genocide is more important than protecting any of the rights you're so worried about. Is that someone who deserves your vote?
More than Trump? Absolutely.

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Torgo
02/02/24 10:35:20 PM
#77:


ReiRei89 posted...
Again we have "serious" users who think Trump won't genocide the Palestians even though as shown here the GOP are even more pro genocide than Biden and Dems ever will be.

This blows my mind as a quasi-leftist.

Along with my main reason for holding my nose and absolutely voting for Biden: LGBTQ folks, pregnant people, and immigrants here in America have a target on their backs now, and republicans are being promised blood and cruelty. Any democrat in the Whitehouse absolutely will make a substantial difference for the rights and safety for those groups.

So you can have

A: Awful Isreal/Palastine policy and civil rights for marginalized groups protected.

Or:

B: Even worse Isreal/Palastine policy and civil rights for marginalized groups stripped and gutted.

I'll pick A. Those are our only viable choices, no hero is gonna swoop in and give us everything we want.

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ForsakenHermit
02/02/24 10:44:51 PM
#78:


Jesus Harold Christ on a pogo stick! What the ass?

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Trumble
02/02/24 10:47:13 PM
#79:


ReiRei89 posted...
Again we have "serious" users who think Trump won't genocide the Palestians even though as shown here the GOP are even more pro genocide than Biden and Dems ever will be.
Again, not a single person has said Trump will be better. That's a strawmen that Biden supporters are inventing.

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EPR-radar
02/02/24 10:48:49 PM
#80:


ForsakenHermit posted...
Jesus Harold Christ on a pogo stick! What the ass?
It's not too surprising. There are Republicans that believe this and say it out loud vs. any of their target groups, a larger fraction of Republicans that want their target groups dead, but don't say so in public, and a rapidly decreasing moderate fringe of Republicans that don't actually want to eliminate GOP target groups (but will do nothing to stop others from doing that).
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EPR-radar
02/02/24 10:52:36 PM
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Trumble posted...
Again, not a single person has said Trump will be better. That's a strawmen that Biden supporters are inventing.
Irrelevant. The offensive among the single issue voters on the Palestine issue have repeatedly said they will refuse to vote for Biden (unless a miracle happens and their itch get scratched between now and then). It's fair to regard that as a preference for Trump over Biden, given that Trump and Biden are the only choices, and one of the two will win.
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Ricemills
02/02/24 10:52:43 PM
#83:


Trumble posted...
Again, not a single person has said Trump will be better. That's a strawmen that Biden supporters are inventing.

Give it up already, Biden cultists will always label people that didn't worship him as a Trumper. They didn't see the irony within themselves, and getting to be more similar to Trumpers.
Your reasonings will only fall to deaf ears

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Will_VIIII
02/02/24 11:12:08 PM
#84:


Ricemills posted...
Biden cultists


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DrizztLink
02/02/24 11:16:09 PM
#85:


Ricemills posted...
Give it up already, Biden cultists will always label people that didn't worship him as a Trumper. They didn't see the irony within themselves, and getting to be more similar to Trumpers.
Your reasonings will only fall to deaf ears
What a useless post.

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ItsNotA2Mer
02/03/24 1:24:23 AM
#86:


DrizztLink posted...
What a useless post.

Not entirely. It let me know how to appropriately tag them.

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Trumble
02/03/24 1:24:49 AM
#87:


Ricemills posted...
Give it up already, Biden cultists will always label people that didn't worship him as a Trumper. They didn't see the irony within themselves, and getting to be more similar to Trumpers.
Your reasonings will only fall to deaf ears
It's not as prevalent as it is with Trumpers, not even close, but there are definitely cases of it out there as seen in this very topic.

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Ulfar
02/03/24 1:33:26 AM
#88:


Every Repub is an inhuman terrorist. Yes, all of them.
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GATTJT
02/03/24 1:38:33 AM
#89:


Ricemills posted...
Give it up already, Biden cultists will always label people that didn't worship him as a Trumper. They didn't see the irony within themselves, and getting to be more similar to Trumpers.
Your reasonings will only fall to deaf ears

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EPR-radar
02/03/24 1:48:53 AM
#90:


Ricemills posted...
Biden cultists

don't exist in any meaningful numbers.

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Ricemills
02/03/24 1:55:30 AM
#91:


EPR-radar posted...
don't exist in any meaningful numbers.

There's more than enough of them in this board.
Ironically there's almost none of them in real life, that means they're the terminally online too.

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EPR-radar
02/03/24 2:03:30 AM
#92:


Ricemills posted...
There's more than enough of them in this board.
Ironically there's almost none of them in real life, that means they're the terminally online too.
Let's see just one example.

Remember, it has to be the kind of slavish devotion to Biden we all see in the Trump cultists for Trump, not the fact that Trump must be defeated and more or less grudging acceptance that Biden is the only credible way to do that.
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mustachedmystic
02/03/24 2:04:51 AM
#93:


Fuck em all!!! I am not a violent, or hateful person, but dese fascist pieces of shit are doing are der best to destroy our Great Republic! I cant help but to but to hate dem. But I dont want to hate, and da fact dat dese literal piles of vomit makes me feel dese unpleasant feelings just makes me hate dem more.

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Ricemills
02/03/24 2:06:17 AM
#94:


EPR-radar posted...
Let's see just one example.

Remember, it has to be the kind of slavish devotion to Biden we all see in the Trump cultists for Trump, not more or less grudging acceptance that Trump must be defeated and Biden is the only credible way to do that.

Like labelling everyone that didn't support Biden means they're supporting Trump?
"If you're not my ally then you're an enemy of mine" is fascist view, not one should expect from the guys that claims they're fighting fascism.

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RchHomieQuanChi
02/03/24 2:06:24 AM
#95:


As someone who's a card-carrying leftist, there is absolute no such thing as "Biden cultists". At absolute most, I've seen people who were loyal to the Democrat Party as a whole, but even they aren't going around proclaiming Biden as the second coming of Jesus.

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RchHomieQuanChi
02/03/24 2:07:35 AM
#96:


Ricemills posted...
Like labelling everyone that didn't support Biden means they're supporting Trump?
"If you're not my ally then you're an enemy of mine" is fascist view, not one should expect from the guys that claims they're fighting fascism.

That has less to do with support for Biden, and more to do with stopping Trump.

And I'm assuming you know this and are just being dishonest.

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EPR-radar
02/03/24 2:10:30 AM
#97:


Ricemills posted...
Like labelling everyone that didn't support Biden means they're supporting Trump?
"If you're not my ally then you're an enemy of mine" is fascist view, not one should expect from the guys that claims they're fighting fascism.
Not an example of a Biden personality cult, therefore not evidence of the existence of Biden cultists.

The rest of this both sides drivel is dismissed as such.
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Ricemills
02/03/24 2:15:35 AM
#98:


RchHomieQuanChi posted...
That has less to do with support for Biden, and more to do with stopping Trump.

And I'm assuming you know this and are just being dishonest.

As dishonest as the guy who called people that didn't support both of Biden and Trump as Trumpers.

EPR-radar posted...
Not an example of a Biden personality cult, therefore not evidence of the existence of Biden cultists.

The rest of this both sides drivel is dismissed as such.

Doesn't have to worship his personality. Just ignoring his wrongs will do.

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hockeybabe89
02/03/24 2:40:24 AM
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Ricemills posted...
Doesn't have to worship his personality. Just ignoring his wrongs will do.
I don't ignore Biden's wrongs. They're just less wrong than the GOP's wrongs and there's no viable third option with the total collapse of human rights in America on the ballot. All we have is lesser evils and survival.

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Foppe
02/03/24 2:41:44 AM
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Biden cultists...
What is it with GOP and projecting all the time?

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