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EPR-radar
02/06/24 6:25:37 PM
#151:


FearlessMango posted...
No, but this is the plan and always has been since the insurrection attempt on Jan 6 failed

keep regurgitating the word insurrection and applying it to every other thing as a means of devaluing that word to the idiotic american public so they eventually think that the actual insurrection wasn't bad or shouldn't be punished
Well, that strategy worked for Republicans regarding impeachment, where their partisan shit show vs. Bill Clinton was 1/3 animus vs. Clinton, 1/3 burying Nixon's crimes, and 1/3 burying the inevitable future impeachable acts of a Republican president.

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mybbqrules
02/06/24 7:54:37 PM
#152:


Hes down to his last attempt to delay.

Then hes mine.
Words cannot express how ready I am for this to take place.

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mybbqrules
02/06/24 8:02:25 PM
#153:


TomClark posted...
I'm not even sure what she's trying to say here.

I mean, I get that she's deeply, deeply stupid and not even she knows what she's trying to say here, but even still...
Its election fraud bullshit. She's saying when Biden was inaugurated that was an insurrection because of their bullshit claims of "widespread election fraud" which still have never been proven.

I'm sure they're endearing themselves to the moderates when they ask about the future and they keep talking about 2020.

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GTA1984
02/06/24 9:07:41 PM
#154:


While it was frustrating that we didn't have a decision for so long this order certainly made the wait worth it. First it is obvious that it was as much written for the Supreme Court as it was for Trump. Second, you had three judges, one of which was appointed by a Republican unanimously agreeing. Third, the order was written to bring Trump's delay tactics to a halt.

In addition to giving him a deadline to appeal to the Supreme Court they also addressed what will happen if Trump tries to go for an en banc hearing. In that case they lift the stay and will only stay the case if Trump is successful in getting an en banc hearing.

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FearlessMango
02/07/24 1:08:29 AM
#155:


The email sent by Judge Engoron in regards to Weisselberg lying on the witness stand

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/4/4e411540.jpg

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Tyranthraxus
02/07/24 5:17:06 AM
#156:


So that's it? The reason we don't have a verdict is because Weisselberg lied? lol

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mystic_belmont
02/07/24 7:37:08 AM
#157:


Tyranthraxus posted...
So that's it? The reason we don't have a verdict is because Weisselberg lied? lol

You should look up falsus in uno.

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Reimu
02/07/24 9:03:12 AM
#158:


Watch SCOTUS deny the certiorari.

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CableZL
02/07/24 1:12:33 PM
#159:


https://twitter.com/ryanjreilly/status/1755292784557220044
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/a/a593c074.jpg
I still think it's amazing that these people created so much evidence against themselves

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Will_VIII
02/07/24 1:13:16 PM
#160:


CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/ryanjreilly/status/1755292784557220044

I still think it's amazing that these people created so much evidence against themselves
I mean, they're Trump voters.

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ArchonKnight
02/07/24 1:14:27 PM
#161:


Honestly that's impressive investigating.

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dummy420
02/07/24 1:19:18 PM
#162:


CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/ryanjreilly/status/1755292784557220044
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/a/a593c074.jpg
I still think it's amazing that these people created so much evidence against themselves
Antifa hacked his account or something like that.

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Amakusa
02/07/24 2:12:56 PM
#163:


CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/ryanjreilly/status/1755292784557220044
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/a/a593c074.jpg
I still think it's amazing that these people created so much evidence against themselves
Most people think it's totally safe to do web searches. Thinking that it's traceable is usually not on the average user's mind.

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CableZL
02/07/24 5:20:27 PM
#164:


https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1755344134976528824

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mystic_belmont
02/07/24 5:24:11 PM
#165:


Guess the judge is just going to falsus in uno the entire case.

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Kradek
02/07/24 5:24:12 PM
#166:


Amakusa posted...
Most people think it's totally safe to do web searches. Thinking that it's traceable is usually not on the average user's mind.

Yep, all competent criminals know to use the library computers to research for criminal activity.

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ArchonKnight
02/07/24 5:26:34 PM
#167:


mystic_belmont posted...
Guess the judge is just going to falsus in uno the entire case.
What will that do to the case?

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fire_bolt
02/07/24 5:29:46 PM
#168:


ArchonKnight posted...

What will that do to the case?


Basically it will throw out everything Weisselberg testified to, so if there was anything he said that would have been a credit to Trump then the judge will not consider it in his ruling.

Which, to be fair, should change basically nothing. He probably comes down a bit more harshly on Trump than he was already going to for providing a witness who Trump knew was lying. Trump might get a bap on the head with a rolled up newspaper instead of a slap on the wrist

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mystic_belmont
02/07/24 5:30:59 PM
#169:


ArchonKnight posted...
What will that do to the case?

Assume the worst possible option from his testimony. Since he was the one that talked about evaluations, assume the worst.

In other words, Trump is doubly fucked. His businesses are going to be sold off as if he was bankrupt. The likelihood of getting bank loans after being found guilty of lying to banks is also low.

The convictions he faces later this year are going to sink his chances at being President, so no foreign favors.

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UnholyMudcrab
02/07/24 5:31:11 PM
#170:


mystic_belmont posted...
Guess the judge is just going to falsus in uno the entire case.
I don't think that's how it works

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mystic_belmont
02/07/24 5:31:58 PM
#171:


UnholyMudcrab posted...
I don't think that's how it works

If the witness lied about one thing, they likely lied about everything.

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Tyranthraxus
02/07/24 5:40:48 PM
#172:


I think the question is more a matter of did Trump ask Weisselberg to lie rather than adjusting anything because he lied.

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mystic_belmont
02/07/24 5:45:13 PM
#173:


Tyranthraxus posted...
I think the question is more a matter of did Trump ask Weisselberg to lie rather than adjusting anything because he lied.

Cohen answered this already. Trump doesn't ask you to do something, much like a mob boss doesn't ask you to off someone.

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CableZL
02/07/24 5:47:51 PM
#174:


Allen Weisselberg is the one who said it was a coincidence that Trump was periodically paying him as part of a $2,000,000 severance that just happened to be almost the exact amount that Weisselberg had to pay in tax fraud fines.

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Alucard188
02/07/24 5:50:05 PM
#175:


CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/ryanjreilly/status/1755292784557220044
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/a/a593c074.jpg
I still think it's amazing that these people created so much evidence against themselves

My favourite part about how ubiquitous technology is is most people don't understand just how it works. Technology gets smarter and criminals stay dumb.

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Takuya_Lee
02/07/24 5:55:08 PM
#176:


CableZL posted...
Allen Weisselberg is the one who said it was a coincidence that Trump was periodically paying him as part of a $2,000,000 severance that just happened to be almost the exact amount that Weisselberg had to pay in tax fraud fines.

If that's a coincidence, then I'm the High King of Narnia. Weisselberg's full of it

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Kradek
02/07/24 5:56:35 PM
#177:


mystic_belmont posted...
In other words, Trump is doubly fucked. His businesses are going to be sold off as if he was bankrupt. The likelihood of getting bank loans after being found guilty of lying to banks is also low.

He's already blacklisted from any U.S.-based banks due to his shenanigans in the 90s, hence why he needs to have foreign investors. Not sure if Saudi Arabia or Russia, his primary loan officers, would actually care about him being found liable for failing to pay back U.S. banks. And if he fails to repay them, well, Trump's around windows at some point, I imagine.

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darkace77450
02/07/24 6:00:48 PM
#178:


Kradek posted...
Not sure if Saudi Arabia or Russia

Eric Trump said on camera they got most of their funding from Russia, IIRC.
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Kradek
02/07/24 6:12:17 PM
#179:


darkace77450 posted...
Eric Trump said on camera they got most of their funding from Russia, IIRC.

Edit: It was for an interview with a golf writer, not on camera. Here's a link. https://thehill.com/homenews/news/332270-eric-trump-in-2014-we-dont-rely-on-american-banks-we-have-all-the-funding-we/

That's true, and I do remember that, however Bonesaw gave Kushner 2bn, against the advice of all his financial people, for essentially providing him with a list of anti-MBS Saudis that he used to seek retribution against them, however I highly doubt that's the first and only time he's financially bankrolled the Trumps.

Russia is their sugar daddy, no doubt, it's just not their only one.

As we've learned Trump received over 7m from foreign entities within his first 2 years of office, with the majority of it coming from China.

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EPR-radar
02/07/24 6:37:51 PM
#180:


ArchonKnight posted...
Honestly that's impressive investigating.
What I'd really like to see is investigation of the GOP command and control links between the January 6 mob and the Trump white house. They must exist, and there's no shortage of GOP ratfuckers like Stone that would have happily done the job.

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thronedfire2
02/07/24 6:42:51 PM
#182:


Kradek posted...
That's true, and I do remember that, however Bonesaw gave Kushner 2bn, against the advice of all his financial people, for essentially providing him with a list of anti-MBS Saudis that he used to seek retribution against them, however I highly doubt that's the first and only time he's financially bankrolled the Trumps.

Russia is their sugar daddy, no doubt, it's just not their only one.

As we've learned Trump received over 7m from foreign entities within his first 2 years of office, with the majority of it coming from China.

and Kushner probably got that intel from classified documents

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EPR-radar
02/07/24 6:43:21 PM
#183:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

I've always assumed Kashoggi getting butchered by Prince Bonesaw's thugs was part of that dirty deal.

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GTA1984
02/08/24 2:20:20 AM
#184:


Reimu posted...
Watch SCOTUS deny the certiorari.

In order to grant certiorari it takes 4 of the 9. I think it is safe to say Sotomayor, Kagan and Jackson will vote against it. Also I will be surprised if Roberts votes for it. Thomas I think will vote for it. Can Trump get three votes between Alito, Kavanaugh, Gorsuch, and Barrett? Honestly I have my doubts.

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mystic_belmont
02/08/24 9:41:57 AM
#186:


You can listen here:

https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/live.aspx

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Heineken14
02/08/24 9:47:04 AM
#187:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


Meh, nothing worth looking into. Now, someone who ISN'T a part of the administration having a truck payment made for them at one point and then paying it back? Fuck me, alert ALL the authorities! That's corruption!

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Mearcstapa
02/08/24 10:23:16 AM
#189:


Tagging so I can laugh at the death of the Trump Org

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mystic_belmont
02/08/24 11:06:24 AM
#190:


An interesting idea came up last night from Lawerence O'Donnell: If Trump truly thought the President was immune from crimes, why didn't he simply kill Mike Pence on January 6th, put Chuck Grassley in as VP, and then have him count the votes as Trump deemed proper?

It's because he knew the President is not immune.

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Starks
02/08/24 11:07:38 AM
#191:


You can't just appoint a VP without congressional confirmation.

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mystic_belmont
02/08/24 11:12:45 AM
#192:


Starks posted...
You can't just appoint a VP without congressional confirmation.

Doesn't the next person in line automatically become VP, barring ineligibility?

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CableZL
02/08/24 11:24:08 AM
#193:


Clarence Thomas didn't recuse himself... I guess those "ethics rules" they rolled out a few months ago don't mean anything.

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davyheinz
02/08/24 11:25:18 AM
#195:


CableZL posted...
Clarence Thomas didn't recuse himself... I guess those "ethics rules" they rolled out a few months ago don't mean anything.
Those ones without any method of enforcement mentioned, among other problems

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ArchonKnight
02/08/24 11:32:43 AM
#196:


Right now it seems like SCOTUS is going to side with Trump on the 14th ammendment issue.

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aarrgus
02/08/24 11:37:33 AM
#197:


JFC.... literally a Fox News "BUT BIDEN GAVE MONEY TO IRAN" argument...

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aarrgus
02/08/24 12:14:02 PM
#199:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


While he could be correct, that's massive speculation not "Breaking" anything...

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