Current Events > How you feel about the "March for Israel" event?

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Mysterious_One 11/14/23 3:10:30 PM #1:	It supposed to take place today at DC (IIRC). Of course we all (myself included) support their right to free speech and marches, and we all hope that the hostages will be freed and all that stuff. That said.... I personally really can't support and/or fly the flag of a country (especially under the current Israeli government runs by Netanyahu) that's currently committing war crimes/ethnic cleansing against civilians under the guise of "self-defense". Worsen by the fact that our country is at least partially responsible (due to our unconditional support of Israel, and the fact that both parties are stauchly pro-Israel). <cite>Mysterious_One posted [p:977213695] in How you fe... [t:80620017]...</cite> <quote>It supposed to take place today at DC (IIRC).Of course we all (myself included) support their right to free speech and marches, and we all hope that the hostages will be freed and all that stuff. That said.... I personally really can't support and/or fly the flag of a country (especially under the current Israeli government runs by Netanyahu) that's currently committing war crimes/ethnic cleansing against civilians under the guise of "self-defense". Worsen by the fact that our country is at least partially responsible (due to our unconditional support of Israel, and the fact that both parties are stauchly pro-Israel). </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 11/14/23 3:16:24 PM #2:	As long as the protest remains non violent, they have their right to freedom of speech. Likewise, everyone else has the right to respond as they see fit (outside of violence; I am meaning in terms of social consequences) to the people who choose to attend such a a vile rally. --- You can't spell Trumble without several letters of the English alphabet. <cite>Trumble posted [p:977213787] in How you fe... [t:80620017]...</cite> <quote>As long as the protest remains non violent, they have their right to freedom of speech. Likewise, everyone else has the right to respond as they see fit (outside of violence; I am meaning in terms of social consequences) to the people who choose to attend such a a vile rally. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SiO4 11/14/23 3:24:12 PM #3:	I've listening to it with one ear, and watching it off an on. It's their right. But what Israel is doing is wrong. This has nothing to do with Jewish people. This is about what the powers in Israel are doing. Killing 11,000+ Civilians is just not justified. As for the US Right Wing all of a sudden being pro-Jewish has more to do with trying to peel off some votes, and more cynically, providing more sales for the Arms industry. --- "Whatever the reason you're on Mars, I'm glad you're there, and I wish I was with you." ~Carl Sagan. Currently playing: Flight Simulator X.~PC <cite>SiO4 posted [p:977213902] in How you fe... [t:80620017]...</cite> <quote>I've listening to it with one ear, and watching it off an on. It's their right. But what Israel is doing is wrong. This has nothing to do with Jewish people.This is about what the powers in Israel are doing. Killing 11,000+ Civilians is just not justified. As for the US Right Wing all of a sudden being pro-Jewish has more to do with trying to peel off some votes, and more cynically, providing more sales for the Arms industry. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JuanCarlos1 11/14/23 3:26:21 PM #4:	Nothing wrong with it. Hopefully the same people at the protest dont see pro palestine protests as anti semite. --- Mas dicen, que en las dimensiones de nuestro ser... hay muchos detalles por conocer... <cite>JuanCarlos1 posted [p:977213925] in How you fe... [t:80620017]...</cite> <quote>Nothing wrong with it. Hopefully the same people at the protest dont see pro palestine protests as anti semite. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Trumble 11/14/23 3:29:00 PM #8:	DipDipDiver posted... Imagine if this protest did turn violent, so the US govt responded by bombing the entire city in which the protest took place By Israel's standards (and by extension, by the protestors' standards) that would be absolutely fine. Good thing the rest of us are better than that. --- You can't spell Trumble without several letters of the English alphabet. <cite>Trumble posted [p:977213973] in How you fe... [t:80620017]...</cite> <quote><cite>DipDipDiver posted... </cite><quote>Imagine if this protest did turn violent, so the US govt responded by bombing the entire city in which the protest took place</quote>By Israel's standards (and by extension, by the protestors' standards) that would be absolutely fine.Good thing the rest of us are better than that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 11/14/23 3:32:42 PM #9:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] You know what. --- Furthermore, The GOP is a Fascist Organization and must be destroyed <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:977214040] in How you fe... [t:80620017]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> You know what. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smackems 11/14/23 3:33:48 PM #10:	Didn't know it existed till i saw this topic --- Common sense says it may not taste good, but it'll make a turd. <cite>Smackems posted [p:977214059] in How you fe... [t:80620017]...</cite> <quote>Didn't know it existed till i saw this topic </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 11/14/23 3:39:39 PM #11:	JuanCarlos1 posted... Hopefully the same people at the protest dont see pro palestine protests as anti semite. They do <cite>Zikten posted [p:977214158] in How you fe... [t:80620017]...</cite> <quote>JuanCarlos1 posted... </cite><quote>Hopefully the same people at the protest dont see pro palestine protests as anti semite.</quote>They do</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 11/14/23 3:45:57 PM #12:	It's like having a march for white people --- Asus ROG Strix Z790-E \| Core i9-13900k \| 64GB DDR5-6000 \| RTX 4090 24GB Dell AW3423DW QD-OLED - 1440p Ultrawide, 175hz, GSync <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:977214267] in How you fe... [t:80620017]...</cite> <quote>It's like having a march for white people </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SiO4 11/14/23 3:51:53 PM #13:	DarthAragorn posted... It's like having a march for white people We've seen those, and we've seen their symbolism, funny how it works. >_> --- "Whatever the reason you're on Mars, I'm glad you're there, and I wish I was with you." ~Carl Sagan. Currently playing: Flight Simulator X.~PC <cite>SiO4 posted [p:977214362] in How you fe... [t:80620017]...</cite> <quote>DarthAragorn posted...</cite><quote>It's like having a march for white people</quote>We've seen those, and we've seen their symbolism, funny how it works. >_> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FlyEaglesFly24 11/14/23 4:27:13 PM #14:	Its nice to know that theres a platform out there where we can voice our concerns and lawmakers can reaffirm their commitment to our safety and security without being harassed. I was a little worried things were going to get a little heated. --- My resolution - the next time the Eagles are in the Superbowl, I'm going! February 10th, 2023 <cite>FlyEaglesFly24 posted [p:977215004] in How you fe... [t:80620017]...</cite> <quote>Its nice to know that theres a platform out there where we can voice our concerns and lawmakers can reaffirm their commitment to our safety and security without being harassed.I was a little worried things were going to get a little heated. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IceCreamOnStero 11/14/23 4:30:05 PM #15:	I disagree with the message of the march. --- Dokkan ID: 2365415872 <cite>IceCreamOnStero posted [p:977215062] in How you fe... [t:80620017]...</cite> <quote>I disagree with the message of the march. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gobstoppers12 11/14/23 4:31:00 PM #16:	Same as I think about most protests and marches: ~~"whatever, bro"~~ --- (He/Him) I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:977215086] in How you fe... [t:80620017]...</cite> <quote>Same as I think about most protests and marches: "whatever, bro" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RyukSan 11/14/23 4:32:20 PM #17:	March for what exactly? What exactly is the endgoal they are seeking? <cite>RyukSan posted [p:977215110] in How you fe... [t:80620017]...</cite> <quote>March for what exactly?What exactly is the endgoal they are seeking?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 11/14/23 4:34:55 PM #18:	RyukSan posted... March for what exactly? What exactly is the endgoal they are seeking? End of the Palestinian quest to have their own country <cite>Zikten posted [p:977215144] in How you fe... [t:80620017]...</cite> <quote>RyukSan posted... </cite><quote>March for what exactly?What exactly is the endgoal they are seeking?</quote>End of the Palestinian quest to have their own country </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shadow_Don 11/14/23 4:36:52 PM #20:	Would look a lot better as a March against antisemitism --- "The soul in the darkness sins, but the real sinner is he who caused the darkness." - Victor Hugo <cite>Shadow_Don posted [p:977215177] in How you fe... [t:80620017]...</cite> <quote>Would look a lot better as a March against antisemitism </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lobinde 11/14/23 4:39:57 PM #21:	Trumble posted... As long as the protest remains non violent, they have their right to freedom of speech. Likewise, everyone else has the right to respond as they see fit (outside of violence; I am meaning in terms of social consequences) to the people who choose to attend such a a vile rally. --- Hey gamers, check out my gaming game ratings and game reviews at https://backloggd.com/u/LobbyDob/ <cite>Lobinde posted [p:977215226] in How you fe... [t:80620017]...</cite> <quote>Trumble posted... </cite><quote>As long as the protest remains non violent, they have their right to freedom of speech. Likewise, everyone else has the right to respond as they see fit (outside of violence; I am meaning in terms of social consequences) to the people who choose to attend such a a vile rally.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FlyEaglesFly24 11/14/23 4:41:14 PM #22:	Shadow_Don posted... Would look a lot better as a March against antisemitism It was a march against Anti Semitism. It was a march in support of Israel and in opposition to the rising rates of antisemitic behavior and rhetoric world wide. I will say it probably should have been a little bit more towards being against all forms of Hatred, and make it a point to stand against Islamaphobia too. I wasnt there, and had no had in organizing it, but thats what I would have done. https://www.youtube.com/live/Q1VRFRqogCQ?si=cFd6DdLz5KodM8VS --- My resolution - the next time the Eagles are in the Superbowl, I'm going! February 10th, 2023 <cite>FlyEaglesFly24 posted [p:977215242] in How you fe... [t:80620017]...</cite> <quote>Shadow_Don posted... </cite><quote>Would look a lot better as a March against antisemitism</quote>It was a march against Anti Semitism. It was a march in support of Israel and in opposition to the rising rates of antisemitic behavior and rhetoric world wide. I will say it probably should have been a little bit more towards being against all forms of Hatred, and make it a point to stand against Islamaphobia too. I wasnt there, and had no had in organizing it, but thats what I would have done.https://www.youtube.com/live/Q1VRFRqogCQ?si=cFd6DdLz5KodM8VS </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JuanCarlos1 11/14/23 4:52:22 PM #23:	Zikten posted... They do Hopefully not all, but yeah, Ive been browsing jewish posts on reddit (just lurking to see what they think) and many do seem to take any sort of pro palestine protest as antisemite. Saying they feel scared. Like what? why? Protests are not against judaism or jewish people, but the actions of the Israeli government. --- Mas dicen, que en las dimensiones de nuestro ser... hay muchos detalles por conocer... <cite>JuanCarlos1 posted [p:977215404] in How you fe... [t:80620017]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite><quote>They do</quote>Hopefully not all, but yeah, Ive been browsing jewish posts on reddit (just lurking to see what they think) and many do seem to take any sort of pro palestine protest as antisemite. Saying they feel scared.Like what? why? Protests are not against judaism or jewish people, but the actions of the Israeli government. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shadow_Don 11/14/23 4:56:32 PM #24:	JuanCarlos1 posted... Like what? why? Protests are not against judaism or jewish people, but the actions of the Israeli government. I believe the vast majority mean well but there is definitely some antisemitism in part of these protests and some "pro-Palestinian" groups are just blatantly antisemitic. Its fucking mind blowing watching people not see that this exists. I see some activists and leftists freak out over universities banning SJP and calling that action racist but when you look at SJP social media accounts they literally praise Hamas and 10/7. --- "The soul in the darkness sins, but the real sinner is he who caused the darkness." - Victor Hugo <cite>Shadow_Don posted [p:977215480] in How you fe... [t:80620017]...</cite> <quote>JuanCarlos1 posted... </cite><quote>Like what? why? Protests are not against judaism or jewish people, but the actions of the Israeli government.</quote>I believe the vast majority mean well but there is definitely some antisemitism in part of these protests and some "pro-Palestinian" groups are just blatantly antisemitic.Its fucking mind blowing watching people not see that this exists. I see some activists and leftists freak out over universities banning SJP and calling that action racist but when you look at SJP social media accounts they literally praise Hamas and 10/7. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mysterious_One 11/14/23 5:01:44 PM #25:	https://atlantablackstar.com/2023/11/14/van-jones-catches-heat-for-speaking-at-march-for-israel-rally/ Van Jones Calls for End to Bombing In Gaza After Catching Heat for Speaking at March for Israel Rally, But Crowd Heckles Him: No Cease Fire! <cite>Mysterious_One posted [p:977215570] in How you fe... [t:80620017]...</cite> <quote>https://atlantablackstar.com/2023/11/14/van-jones-catches-heat-for-speaking-at-march-for-israel-rally/<quote>Van Jones Calls for End to Bombing In Gaza After Catching Heat for Speaking at March for Israel Rally, But Crowd Heckles Him: No Cease Fire!</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FlyEaglesFly24 11/14/23 5:02:01 PM #26:	JuanCarlos1 posted... Hopefully not all, but yeah, Ive been browsing jewish posts on reddit (just lurking to see what they think) and many do seem to take any sort of pro palestine protest as antisemite. Saying they feel scared. Like what? why? Protests are not against judaism or jewish people, but the actions of the Israeli government. Well, maybe now youll hear me out. https://youtu.be/ZEX-HfZKo2I?si=OqgpPeWwKOdOjHzH What we are seeing all over the place is that coupled the Free Palestine thing is an unending series of events where people arent just asking a cease fire, but chanting death to Jews. And all were told is that these incidents are isolated. --- My resolution - the next time the Eagles are in the Superbowl, I'm going! February 10th, 2023 <cite>FlyEaglesFly24 posted [p:977215575] in How you fe... [t:80620017]...</cite> <quote>JuanCarlos1 posted... </cite><quote>Hopefully not all, but yeah, Ive been browsing jewish posts on reddit (just lurking to see what they think) and many do seem to take any sort of pro palestine protest as antisemite. Saying they feel scared.Like what? why? Protests are not against judaism or jewish people, but the actions of the Israeli government.</quote>Well, maybe now youll hear me out.https://youtu.be/ZEX-HfZKo2I?si=OqgpPeWwKOdOjHzHWhat we are seeing all over the place is that coupled the Free Palestine thing is an unending series of events where people arent just asking a cease fire, but chanting death to Jews. And all were told is that these incidents are isolated. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RyukSan 11/14/23 5:05:53 PM #27:	FlyEaglesFly24 posted... Well, maybe now youll hear me out. https://youtu.be/ZEX-HfZKo2I?si=OqgpPeWwKOdOjHzH What we are seeing all over the place is that coupled the Free Palestine thing is an unending series of events where people arent just asking a cease fire, but chanting death to Jews. And all were told is that these incidents are isolated. What you are saying literally applies to many people on the side you happily want to have willful ignorance to as well. Don't sit here and act like there's only a "death to jews" side, but stay silent on the ones saying "death to muslims." <cite>RyukSan posted [p:977215645] in How you fe... [t:80620017]...</cite> <quote>FlyEaglesFly24 posted... </cite><quote>Well, maybe now youll hear me out.https://youtu.be/ZEX-HfZKo2I?si=OqgpPeWwKOdOjHzHWhat we are seeing all over the place is that coupled the Free Palestine thing is an unending series of events where people arent just asking a cease fire, but chanting death to Jews. And all were told is that these incidents are isolated.</quote>What you are saying literally applies to many people on the side you happily want to have willful ignorance to as well.Don't sit here and act like there's only a "death to jews" side, but stay silent on the ones saying "death to muslims."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FlyEaglesFly24 11/14/23 5:20:52 PM #29:	RyukSan posted... What you are saying literally applies to many people on the side you happily want to have willful ignorance to as well. Don't sit here and act like there's only a "death to jews" side, but stay silent on the ones saying "death to muslims." Its like you didnt even read post #22 --- My resolution - the next time the Eagles are in the Superbowl, I'm going! February 10th, 2023 <cite>FlyEaglesFly24 posted [p:977215885] in How you fe... [t:80620017]...</cite> <quote>RyukSan posted... </cite><quote>What you are saying literally applies to many people on the side you happily want to have willful ignorance to as well.Don't sit here and act like there's only a "death to jews" side, but stay silent on the ones saying "death to muslims."</quote>Its like you didnt even read post #22 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RyukSan 11/14/23 5:32:57 PM #30:	FlyEaglesFly24 posted... Its like you didnt even read post #22 Which was irrelevant in my response to your post. We are also seeing all over the place violence and hatred against muslims coupled with "defend Israel" in an unending series of events where people aren't just asking for a cease fire, but support "death to muslims." With gymnastics being performed to avoid the autrocities the Israeli government has done and still supports doing. Even when the conversation comes up, to even be critical of the Israeli government has many clutching their pearls to claim its antisemitism to be critical of the Israeli governments actions or try their hardest to mitigate such criticism. If you want to point at bad actors from the "Palestinian rights" camp, best know the same can be applied to the bad actors in the "defend Israel" camp. <cite>RyukSan posted [p:977216084] in How you fe... [t:80620017]...</cite> <quote>FlyEaglesFly24 posted... </cite><quote>Its like you didnt even read post #22</quote>Which was irrelevant in my response to your post.We are also seeing all over the place violence and hatred against muslims coupled with "defend Israel" in an unending series of events where people aren't just asking for a cease fire, but support "death to muslims." With gymnastics being performed to avoid the autrocities the Israeli government has done and still supports doing. Even when the conversation comes up, to even be critical of the Israeli government has many clutching their pearls to claim its antisemitism to be critical of the Israeli governments actions or try their hardest to mitigate such criticism. If you want to point at bad actors from the "Palestinian rights" camp, best know the same can be applied to the bad actors in the "defend Israel" camp.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 11/14/23 5:35:04 PM #31:	Israel had the support of the whole government so I don't understand the point. --- "Big Sweaty Otis" -Titus O'Neil <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:977216121] in How you fe... [t:80620017]...</cite> <quote>Israel had the support of the whole government so I don't understand the point. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JuanCarlos1 11/14/23 5:35:21 PM #32:	FlyEaglesFly24 posted... Well, maybe now youll hear me out. https://youtu.be/ZEX-HfZKo2I?si=OqgpPeWwKOdOjHzH What we are seeing all over the place is that coupled the Free Palestine thing is an unending series of events where people arent just asking a cease fire, but chanting death to Jews. And all were told is that these incidents are isolated. I hear you and Im sorry that this is a thing. Any display of hate is disgusting, but its also coming from both sides. The world has to learn to separate the people from their leaders and ideologies. Im just trying to say that the average person is not anti semite. --- Mas dicen, que en las dimensiones de nuestro ser... hay muchos detalles por conocer... <cite>JuanCarlos1 posted [p:977216126] in How you fe... [t:80620017]...</cite> <quote>FlyEaglesFly24 posted... </cite><quote>Well, maybe now youll hear me out.https://youtu.be/ZEX-HfZKo2I?si=OqgpPeWwKOdOjHzHWhat we are seeing all over the place is that coupled the Free Palestine thing is an unending series of events where people arent just asking a cease fire, but chanting death to Jews. And all were told is that these incidents are isolated.</quote>I hear you and Im sorry that this is a thing. Any display of hate is disgusting, but its also coming from both sides. The world has to learn to separate the people from their leaders and ideologies. Im just trying to say that the average person is not anti semite. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FlyEaglesFly24 11/14/23 6:00:46 PM #33:	RyukSan posted... Which was irrelevant in my response to your post. We are also seeing all over the place violence and hatred against muslims coupled with "defend Israel" in an unending series of events where people aren't just asking for a cease fire, but support "death to muslims." With gymnastics being performed to avoid the autrocities the Israeli government has done and still supports doing. Even when the conversation comes up, to even be critical of the Israeli government has many clutching their pearls to claim its antisemitism to be critical of the Israeli governments actions or try their hardest to mitigate such criticism. If you want to point at bad actors from the "Palestinian rights" camp, best know the same can be applied to the bad actors in the "defend Israel" camp. How the fuck is it irrelevant? I literally stated I would have rather seem a more open condemnation of all forms of hatred in including Islamaphobia to make sure this isnt an Anti Palestine thing? Its only irrelevant if you want it to be. Fucking hell --- My resolution - the next time the Eagles are in the Superbowl, I'm going! February 10th, 2023 <cite>FlyEaglesFly24 posted [p:977216576] in How you fe... [t:80620017]...</cite> <quote>RyukSan posted... </cite><quote>Which was irrelevant in my response to your post.We are also seeing all over the place violence and hatred against muslims coupled with "defend Israel" in an unending series of events where people aren't just asking for a cease fire, but support "death to muslims." With gymnastics being performed to avoid the autrocities the Israeli government has done and still supports doing. Even when the conversation comes up, to even be critical of the Israeli government has many clutching their pearls to claim its antisemitism to be critical of the Israeli governments actions or try their hardest to mitigate such criticism. If you want to point at bad actors from the "Palestinian rights" camp, best know the same can be applied to the bad actors in the "defend Israel" camp.</quote>How the fuck is it irrelevant? I literally stated I would have rather seem a more open condemnation of all forms of hatred in including Islamaphobia to make sure this isnt an Anti Palestine thing? Its only irrelevant if you want it to be.Fucking hell </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Forty_Niners 11/14/23 6:05:20 PM #34:	March for Israel to me feels like White Lives Matter. On paper it seems fine, but after you dig in, you realize that it's just nonsense to distract from more pressing needs. Israel, especially in the US, has never been second fiddle. Ever. Not once. America has basically lifted Israel above nearly all other countries, despite them not really producing or exporting anything. Yet here they are, as a world power. They don't want people saying Free Palestine, so they do this. I could be cynical. --- Who cares if Bosa is racist? <cite>Forty_Niners posted [p:977216637] in How you fe... [t:80620017]...</cite> <quote>March for Israel to me feels like White Lives Matter. On paper it seems fine, but after you dig in, you realize that it's just nonsense to distract from more pressing needs. Israel, especially in the US, has never been second fiddle. Ever. Not once. America has basically lifted Israel above nearly all other countries, despite them not really producing or exporting anything. Yet here they are, as a world power. They don't want people saying Free Palestine, so they do this. I could be cynical. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Necronmon 11/14/23 6:17:57 PM #35:	March for Israel to me feels like White Lives Matter. On paper it seems fine, but after you dig in, you realize that it's just nonsense to distract from more pressing needs. Israel, especially in the US, has never been second fiddle. Ever. Not once. America has basically lifted Israel above nearly all other countries, despite them not really producing or exporting anything. Yet here they are, as a world power. They don't want people saying Free Palestine, so they do this. I could be cynical. I mean...its all atonement for how much America dropped the ball in World War 2 with how they treated Jews...atoning for that failure is to make sure that never happens again. <cite>Necronmon posted [p:977216833] in How you fe... [t:80620017]...</cite> <quote><quote>March for Israel to me feels like White Lives Matter. On paper it seems fine, but after you dig in, you realize that it's just nonsense to distract from more pressing needs. Israel, especially in the US, has never been second fiddle. Ever. Not once. America has basically lifted Israel above nearly all other countries, despite them not really producing or exporting anything. Yet here they are, as a world power. They don't want people saying Free Palestine, so they do this. I could be cynical.</quote>I mean...its all atonement for how much America dropped the ball in World War 2 with how they treated Jews...atoning for that failure is to make sure that never happens again. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FlyEaglesFly24 11/14/23 6:25:45 PM #36:	Forty_Niners posted... March for Israel to me feels like White Lives Matter. On paper it seems fine, but after you dig in, you realize that it's just nonsense to distract from more pressing needs. Israel, especially in the US, has never been second fiddle. Ever. Not once. America has basically lifted Israel above nearly all other countries, despite them not really producing or exporting anything. Yet here they are, as a world power. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Israeli_inventions_and_discoveries https://tradingeconomics.com/israel/exports-by-country Oh yeah sure, they dont produce or export anything at all. --- My resolution - the next time the Eagles are in the Superbowl, I'm going! February 10th, 2023 <cite>FlyEaglesFly24 posted [p:977216962] in How you fe... [t:80620017]...</cite> <quote>Forty_Niners posted... </cite><quote>March for Israel to me feels like White Lives Matter. On paper it seems fine, but after you dig in, you realize that it's just nonsense to distract from more pressing needs. Israel, especially in the US, has never been second fiddle. Ever. Not once. America has basically lifted Israel above nearly all other countries, despite them not really producing or exporting anything. Yet here they are, as a world power. </quote>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Israeli_inventions_and_discoverieshttps://tradingeconomics.com/israel/exports-by-countryOh yeah sure, they dont produce or export anything at all. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RyukSan 11/14/23 6:32:11 PM #37:	FlyEaglesFly24 posted... How the fuck is it irrelevant? I literally stated I would have rather seem a more open condemnation of all forms of hatred in including Islamaphobia to make sure this isnt an Anti Palestine thing? Its only irrelevant if you want it to be. Fucking hell It's irrelevant because exactly what I said. You claimed it was a march for antisemitism and claimed you would have rather seem a more open condemnation of all forms of hatred. The problem is your post 26 that tries to act like your exact words doesn't apply to the pro "defend Israel" crowd. As there's most definitely all over the place violence and hatred against muslims coupled with "defend Israel" in an unending series of events where people aren't just asking for a cease fire, but support "death to muslims." With gymnastics being performed to avoid the autrocities the Israeli government does. That or going above and beyond to bob and weave around such criticism of the Israeli government or those who hide under "antisemitism" to justify autrocities against muslims. The Israeli government seems to given low key pass to killing more innocent people. It's talked about, but those autrocities are quickly deflected.... as we act like they are underdogs desperately in need of support to continue autrocities against civilians in the name of getting Hamas. <cite>RyukSan posted [p:977217059] in How you fe... [t:80620017]...</cite> <quote>FlyEaglesFly24 posted... </cite><quote>How the fuck is it irrelevant? I literally stated I would have rather seem a more open condemnation of all forms of hatred in including Islamaphobia to make sure this isnt an Anti Palestine thing? Its only irrelevant if you want it to be.Fucking hell</quote>It's irrelevant because exactly what I said. You claimed it was a march for antisemitism and claimed you would have rather seem a more open condemnation of all forms of hatred. The problem is your post 26 that tries to act like your exact words doesn't apply to the pro "defend Israel" crowd.As there's most definitely all over the place violence and hatred against muslims coupled with "defend Israel" in an unending series of events where people aren't just asking for a cease fire, but support "death to muslims." With gymnastics being performed to avoid the autrocities the Israeli government does.That or going above and beyond to bob and weave around such criticism of the Israeli government or those who hide under "antisemitism" to justify autrocities against muslims. The Israeli government seems to given low key pass to killing more innocent people. It's talked about, but those autrocities are quickly deflected.... as we act like they are underdogs desperately in need of support to continue autrocities against civilians in the name of getting Hamas.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ronaldo 11/14/23 6:36:03 PM #38:	"According to organizers, the objective of the rally was to display solidarity with Israel in the context of the 2023 Israel-Hamas war, protest against antisemitism, express gratitude for American support of Israel, and demand the release of Israeli and foreign hostages kidnapped by Hamas at the beginning of the conflict" <cite>Ronaldo posted [p:977217109] in How you fe... [t:80620017]...</cite> <quote>"According to organizers, the objective of the rally was to display solidarity with Israel in the context of the 2023 Israel-Hamas war, protest against antisemitism, express gratitude for American support of Israel, and demand the release of Israeli and foreign hostages kidnapped by Hamas at the beginning of the conflict"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Forty_Niners 11/14/23 6:36:21 PM #39:	FlyEaglesFly24 posted... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Israeli_inventions_and_discoveries https://tradingeconomics.com/israel/exports-by-country Oh yeah sure, they dont produce or export anything at all. The most recent exports are led by Diamonds ($9.06B), Integrated Circuits ($5.09B), Refined Petroleum ($2.73B), Medical Instruments ($2.36B), and Other Measuring Instruments ($2.32B). Israel Exports By Country Value Year United States $18.62B 2022 US imports more than the next 6 countries combined. 29% of all Israeli exports in fact. We keep them afloat. Which goes back to my point that them acting like Israel needs a march, when they're already given far more preferential treatment than anyone else, is why I don't view it as anything but subterfuge. --- Who cares if Bosa is racist? <cite>Forty_Niners posted [p:977217111] in How you fe... [t:80620017]...</cite> <quote>FlyEaglesFly24 posted... </cite><quote>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Israeli_inventions_and_discoverieshttps://tradingeconomics.com/israel/exports-by-countryOh yeah sure, they dont produce or export anything at all.</quote><quote>The most recent exports are led by Diamonds ($9.06B), Integrated Circuits ($5.09B), Refined Petroleum ($2.73B), Medical Instruments ($2.36B), and Other Measuring Instruments ($2.32B).</quote>Israel Exports By Country Value Year United States $18.62B 2022US imports more than the next 6 countries combined. 29% of all Israeli exports in fact. We keep them afloat. Which goes back to my point that them acting like Israel needs a march, when they're already given far more preferential treatment than anyone else, is why I don't view it as anything but subterfuge. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trumble 11/14/23 6:40:18 PM #40:	Israel certianly does produce a lot of economic and scientific value. That should be protected and supported, absolutely. We can do that without propping up their military atrocities though. --- You can't spell Trumble without several letters of the English alphabet. <cite>Trumble posted [p:977217167] in How you fe... [t:80620017]...</cite> <quote>Israel certianly does produce a lot of economic and scientific value. That should be protected and supported, absolutely.We can do that without propping up their military atrocities though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 11/14/23 6:41:35 PM #41:	Protesting against antisemitism and showing support for the hostages to be freed is fine. It's still hard not to roll my eyes at it because I imagine most of it is just pure Israel fanboyism done by people who are fine with innocent Palestinians being murdered. Like others have said, it's not like Israel is an underdog that's not getting MASSIVE support anyway. --- http://imgur.com/hslUvRN.jpg When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:977217182] in How you fe... [t:80620017]...</cite> <quote>Protesting against antisemitism and showing support for the hostages to be freed is fine. It's still hard not to roll my eyes at it because I imagine most of it is just pure Israel fanboyism done by people who are fine with innocent Palestinians being murdered.Like others have said, it's not like Israel is an underdog that's not getting MASSIVE support anyway. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fenriswolf 11/14/23 11:16:56 PM #42:	The problem is that a sizeable number of the protesters are Evangelicals who support Israel because they believe the Rapture is coming soon. Among the invited is a Televangelist who claimed that the Holocaust was "God's work to guide Jews to their rightful places". https://twitter.com/_waleedshahid/status/1724458641678348504 --- Hello <cite>Fenriswolf posted [p:977221259] in How you fe... [t:80620017]...</cite> <quote>The problem is that a sizeable number of the protesters are Evangelicals who support Israel because they believe the Rapture is coming soon. Among the invited is a Televangelist who claimed that the Holocaust was "God's work to guide Jews to their rightful places".https://twitter.com/_waleedshahid/status/1724458641678348504 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sfcalimari 11/14/23 11:21:20 PM #43:	You'll still hate them when Netantahu leaves and is replaced by another Israeli politician who surprisingly does not want to abolish Israel and let Hamas commit endless pogroms. --- "Tether even a roasted chicken." - Yamamoto Tsunetomo <cite>sfcalimari posted [p:977221310] in How you fe... [t:80620017]...</cite> <quote>You'll still hate them when Netantahu leaves and is replaced by another Israeli politician who surprisingly does not want to abolish Israel and let Hamas commit endless pogroms. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ricemills 11/14/23 11:22:02 PM #44:	If support for Palestine are allowed to be called antisemitic, then support for Israel should be allowed to be called Islamophobic too. --- You have the right to remain silent. Anything you posted will be misquoted, then be used against you. http://error1355.com/ce/Ricemills.html <cite>Ricemills posted [p:977221318] in How you fe... [t:80620017]...</cite> <quote>If support for Palestine are allowed to be called antisemitic, then support for Israel should be allowed to be called Islamophobic too. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FlyEaglesFly24 11/14/23 11:35:20 PM #45:	Ricemills posted... If support for Palestine are allowed to be called antisemitic, then support for Israel should be allowed to be called Islamophobic too. Support for Palestine isnt necessarily antisemitic. Support for Hamas is. One is a national identity that just so happens to have a claim to the same land that Israel does. The other is a terrorist organization whose sole purpose to exist is to murder Jews and wipe out the Jewish state. Nuance matters. Just like support for Israel isnt Islamaphobia, but support for Israeli expansion into the West Bank is. The problem is that damn chant. It really depends on what your interpretation of what it means. If you are calling two states living side by side freely, its not. If you are calling for one state called Palestine, which at the same time eliminates the national identity of Israelis and Jewish self determination in Israel, well then its a different story. Theres nothing wrong with wanting to improve the Palestinian condition as it pertains to their national sovereignty and basic human rights. Hell, there are a lot of Israelis who want the same thing. But if your solution to a situation that you believe to be ethnic cleansing is only more ethnic cleansing, well its the hypocrisy of your idea that shows who you really are. Because even if you are right, you cant call it a crime and then do it anyway. I really do not understand why you guys continue to try and oversimplify this to a black and white issue all the time. --- My resolution - the next time the Eagles are in the Superbowl, I'm going! February 10th, 2023 <cite>FlyEaglesFly24 posted [p:977221453] in How you fe... [t:80620017]...</cite> <quote>Ricemills posted... </cite><quote>If support for Palestine are allowed to be called antisemitic, then support for Israel should be allowed to be called Islamophobic too.</quote>Support for Palestine isnt necessarily antisemitic. Support for Hamas is. One is a national identity that just so happens to have a claim to the same land that Israel does. The other is a terrorist organization whose sole purpose to exist is to murder Jews and wipe out the Jewish state. Nuance matters. Just like support for Israel isnt Islamaphobia, but support for Israeli expansion into the West Bank is.The problem is that damn chant. It really depends on what your interpretation of what it means. If you are calling two states living side by side freely, its not. If you are calling for one state called Palestine, which at the same time eliminates the national identity of Israelis and Jewish self determination in Israel, well then its a different story. Theres nothing wrong with wanting to improve the Palestinian condition as it pertains to their national sovereignty and basic human rights. Hell, there are a lot of Israelis who want the same thing.But if your solution to a situation that you believe to be ethnic cleansing is only more ethnic cleansing, well its the hypocrisy of your idea that shows who you really are. Because even if you are right, you cant call it a crime and then do it anyway.I really do not understand why you guys continue to try and oversimplify this to a black and white issue all the time. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ricemills 11/14/23 11:41:02 PM #46:	FlyEaglesFly24 posted... Support for Palestine isnt necessarily antisemitic. Support for Hamas is. One is a national identity that just so happens to have a claim to the same land that Israel does. The other is a terrorist organization whose sole purpose to exist is to murder Jews and wipe out the Jewish state. Nuance matters. Just like support for Israel isnt Islamaphobia, but support for Israeli expansion into the West Bank is. All of this means bullshit when every criticism on Israel are attributed as antisemitic, just look at this very topic. --- You have the right to remain silent. Anything you posted will be misquoted, then be used against you. http://error1355.com/ce/Ricemills.html <cite>Ricemills posted [p:977221512] in How you fe... [t:80620017]...</cite> <quote>FlyEaglesFly24 posted... </cite><quote>Support for Palestine isnt necessarily antisemitic. Support for Hamas is. One is a national identity that just so happens to have a claim to the same land that Israel does. The other is a terrorist organization whose sole purpose to exist is to murder Jews and wipe out the Jewish state. Nuance matters. Just like support for Israel isnt Islamaphobia, but support for Israeli expansion into the West Bank is.</quote>All of this means bullshit when every criticism on Israel are attributed as antisemitic, just look at this very topic. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ultimate_reaver 11/14/23 11:44:52 PM #47:	The country bombing the shit out of the prison camp they have been keeping for two decades does not need people marching for it, it needs a dissolution of leadership --- I pray god will curse the writer, as the writer has cursed the world with this beautiful, stupendous creation, terrible in its simplicity, irresistible in truth <cite>ultimate_reaver posted [p:977221545] in How you fe... [t:80620017]...</cite> <quote>The country bombing the shit out of the prison camp they have been keeping for two decades does not need people marching for it, it needs a dissolution of leadership </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 11/15/23 7:51:34 AM #48:	When you fill your march with racist and cowards then you pay people to go there, then you lie about number of people who went there. That isn't a good look. --- "Big Sweaty Otis" -Titus O'Neil <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:977224900] in How you fe... [t:80620017]...</cite> <quote>When you fill your march with racist and cowards then you pay people to go there, then you lie about number of people who went there. That isn't a good look. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bfslick50 11/15/23 7:57:43 AM #49:	The crowd started chanting no cease fire when a speaker said they should pray for peace. Thats disturbing. --- "Something's wrong! Murder isn't working and that's all we're good at." ~Futurama <cite>bfslick50 posted [p:977224945] in How you fe... [t:80620017]...</cite> <quote>The crowd started chanting no cease fire when a speaker said they should pray for peace. Thats disturbing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zwijn 11/15/23 8:04:09 AM #50:	If they want to walk and protest thats their right. Personally dont feel anything for either country aside from that its fucked that civilians are being killed. Besides that the region doesnt cross my thoughts, I wouldnt ever go there, I think its backwards and wouldnt be welcome there anyway. <cite>Zwijn posted [p:977225000] in How you fe... [t:80620017]...</cite> <quote>If they want to walk and protest thats their right. Personally dont feel anything for either country aside from that its fucked that civilians are being killed. Besides that the region doesnt cross my thoughts, I wouldnt ever go there, I think its backwards and wouldnt be welcome there anyway.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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