Palestine War: Live Thread 5 (Gaza Invaded)

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DnDer 11/10/23 5:58:34 AM #101:	hockeybub89 posted... I wish I'd kept a list of the people here who literally said Israel has zero responsibility for anything that happens post October 7th. I'm sure you'll have a chance if you keep watching these topics. They've been pretty adamant about it. --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:977135771] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite><quote>I wish I'd kept a list of the people here who literally said Israel has zero responsibility for anything that happens post October 7th.</quote>I'm sure you'll have a chance if you keep watching these topics. They've been pretty adamant about it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Arbron 11/10/23 5:59:27 AM #102:	DnDer posted... Reminds me of a story where cops shot up the queue outside a restaurant or nightclub, injuring several and killing at least one... while not once hitting the suspect they were pursuing into the area. A shame I can't dig into the 261 archives and find that instance, but maybe someone else remembers it? Its amazing how they get to ignore the basic fundamentals of gun safety without consequence. --- Depression, self-hatred and suicidal tendencies are not "being edgy." Stop dismissing people's problems with a stupid meme. <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:977135777] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>DnDer posted... </cite><quote>Reminds me of a story where cops shot up the queue outside a restaurant or nightclub, injuring several and killing at least one... while not once hitting the suspect they were pursuing into the area.A shame I can't dig into the 261 archives and find that instance, but maybe someone else remembers it?</quote>Its amazing how they get to ignore the basic fundamentals of gun safety without consequence. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DnDer 11/10/23 6:32:35 AM #103:	ZechtAurion posted... https://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/1722527493780021654 The choppers indiscriminately opened fire on "thousands of terrorists within the settlements?" Feels pretty telling of what they think of people in the settlements, doesn't it? AltAccount3 posted... U.S. says it has not found evidence of war crimes in Gaza. We're doing an inverse yellow cake for the international community now? Everyone knows and we're going to use a wet-cardboard thin pretense to let Israel continue a month of attempted genocide? Should be a big, self-reflective, "Are we the baddies?" moment, but somehow I don't think it will be. For some reason. Godbe-Bryant posted... https://www.reddit.com/r/JoeRo-- Going to safely ignore and dismiss that link as deliberate disinformation. Get your news from someplace that isn't a fucking cesspool. HHH_is_the_game posted... But people should also stop referring to what Israel is doing as a genocide as if its fact. Its overly incisive and possibly offensive language when they are facing a genocidal group that unleashed a horrible terrorist attack upon them and wants to wipe them from the face of the Earth. You can walk and chew gum at the same time, right? Israel is, and has been for decades, attempting a Palestinian genocide. And, yes, Palestine's original charter says Israel shouldn't exist. Looks like two things are true at once: hamas terrorists and Israel have determined genocide is right for each other. You've got two genocidal groups at each other's throat, and there's nothing offensive about calling an attempted genocide by Israel an attempted genocide by Israel. --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:977136006] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>ZechtAurion posted... </cite><quote>https://twitter.com/Partisangirl/status/1722527493780021654</quote>The choppers indiscriminately opened fire on "thousands of terrorists within the settlements?"Feels pretty telling of what they think of people in the settlements, doesn't it?AltAccount3 posted... </cite><quote>U.S. says it has not found evidence of war crimes in Gaza.</quote>We're doing an inverse yellow cake for the international community now? Everyone knows and we're going to use a wet-cardboard thin pretense to let Israel continue a month of attempted genocide?Should be a big, self-reflective, "Are we the baddies?" moment, but somehow I don't think it will be. For some reason.Godbe-Bryant posted... </cite><quote>https://www.reddit.com/r/JoeRo--</quote>Going to safely ignore and dismiss that link as deliberate disinformation.Get your news from someplace that isn't a fucking cesspool.HHH_is_the_game posted... </cite><quote>But people should also stop referring to what Israel is doing as a genocide as if its fact. Its overly incisive and possibly offensive language when they are facing a genocidal group that unleashed a horrible terrorist attack upon them and wants to wipe them from the face of the Earth.</quote>You can walk and chew gum at the same time, right? Israel is, and has been for decades, attempting a Palestinian genocide.And, yes, Palestine's original charter says Israel shouldn't exist.Looks like two things are true at once: hamas terrorists and Israel have determined genocide is right for each other. You've got two genocidal groups at each other's throat, and there's nothing offensive about calling an attempted genocide by Israel an attempted genocide by Israel. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JuanCarlos1 11/10/23 6:35:24 AM #104:	punkfanalways posted... Wow. Literally comparing Israel to Nazi Germany. Ive seen some takes but Jesus Christ. Its not completely unfounded at this point. --- Mas dicen, que en las dimensiones de nuestro ser... hay muchos detalles por conocer... <cite>JuanCarlos1 posted [p:977136026] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>punkfanalways posted... </cite><quote>Wow. Literally comparing Israel to Nazi Germany. Ive seen some takes but Jesus Christ.</quote>Its not completely unfounded at this point. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Arbron 11/10/23 6:37:38 AM #105:	The US saying it has not found evidence of war crimes in Gaza is like a mother insisting her son is a good boy whod never hurt anyone while hes on trial for murder with 30 witnesses, DNA and CCTV evidence and a signed confession confirming his actions were done in cold blood with zero remorse. --- Depression, self-hatred and suicidal tendencies are not "being edgy." Stop dismissing people's problems with a stupid meme. <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:977136038] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>The US saying it has not found evidence of war crimes in Gaza is like a mother insisting her son is a good boy whod never hurt anyone while hes on trial for murder with 30 witnesses, DNA and CCTV evidence and a signed confession confirming his actions were done in cold blood with zero remorse. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZechtAurion 11/10/23 7:06:47 AM #106:	https://www.reddit.com/r/AskMiddleEast/comments/17rxy8n/israeli_soldiers_taking_a_palestinian_former/ My, my, my, is that a human shield? At this point every accusation is a confession from Nazi Israel. <cite>ZechtAurion posted [p:977136301] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>https://www.reddit.com/r/AskMiddleEast/comments/17rxy8n/israeli_soldiers_taking_a_palestinian_former/My, my, my, is that a human shield?At this point every accusation is a confession from Nazi Israel.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 11/10/23 7:33:21 AM #107:	JuanCarlos1 posted... Its not completely unfounded at this point. Hasn't Netanyahu even expressed admiration for Hitler? It's insane, like if a black person said the Confederacy had the right idea. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:977136497] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>JuanCarlos1 posted... </cite><quote>Its not completely unfounded at this point.</quote>Hasn't Netanyahu even expressed admiration for Hitler?It's insane, like if a black person said the Confederacy had the right idea. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Foppe 11/10/23 7:35:21 AM #108:	hockeybub89 posted... Hasn't Netanyahu even expressed admiration for Hitler? It's insane, like if a black person said the Confederacy had the right idea. He said that Hitler was a really nice guy that only wanted to kick out Jews from Germany, but then some Palestina leader met him and convined him to burn them instead. --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>Foppe posted [p:977136517] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite><quote>Hasn't Netanyahu even expressed admiration for Hitler?It's insane, like if a black person said the Confederacy had the right idea.</quote>He said that Hitler was a really nice guy that only wanted to kick out Jews from Germany, but then some Palestina leader met him and convined him to burn them instead. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZechtAurion 11/10/23 7:36:28 AM #109:	hockeybub89 posted... Hasn't Netanyahu even expressed admiration for Hitler? It's insane, like if a black person said the Confederacy had the right idea. Admiration??? Piece of shit tried to absolve him by creating a bs story how Muslims convinced Hitler to kill all Jews. <cite>ZechtAurion posted [p:977136526] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite><quote>Hasn't Netanyahu even expressed admiration for Hitler?It's insane, like if a black person said the Confederacy had the right idea.</quote>Admiration??? Piece of shit tried to absolve him by creating a bs story how Muslims convinced Hitler to kill all Jews.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZechtAurion 11/10/23 7:38:51 AM #110:	https://www.reddit.com/r/AskMiddleEast/comments/17rgwwr/israeli_terrorists_opened_fire_at_a_little_girl/ Hamas spy caught filming proud warriors of Israel. <cite>ZechtAurion posted [p:977136539] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>https://www.reddit.com/r/AskMiddleEast/comments/17rgwwr/israeli_terrorists_opened_fire_at_a_little_girl/<quote>Hamas spy caught filming proud warriors of Israel.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 11/10/23 7:41:12 AM #111:	ZechtAurion posted... https://www.reddit.com/r/AskMiddleEast/comments/17rgwwr/israeli_terrorists_opened_fire_at_a_little_girl/ Now now. She may have had a rock! Obvious secret Hamas agent! /s just in case. --- http://i.imgur.com/hslUvRN.jpg When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:977136547] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>ZechtAurion posted... </cite><quote>https://www.reddit.com/r/AskMiddleEast/comments/17rgwwr/israeli_terrorists_opened_fire_at_a_little_girl/</quote>Now now. She may have had a rock! Obvious secret Hamas agent!/s just in case. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
punkfanalways 11/10/23 7:49:40 AM #112:	Foppe posted... but then some Palestina leader met him... Pretty sure this was debunked and the meeting happened after the concentration camps had already opened. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/21/netanyahu-under-fire-for-palestinian-grand-mufti-holocaust-claim In reality, the mass killings of Jews by SS mobile killing units Einsatzgruppen were already under way when the two men met face to face. The first was in Lithuania in July 1941, described by Yad Vashem as the beginning of the Final Solution. <cite>punkfanalways posted [p:977136619] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>Foppe posted... </cite><quote>but then some Palestina leader met him...</quote>Pretty sure this was debunked and the meeting happened after the concentration camps had already opened.https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/21/netanyahu-under-fire-for-palestinian-grand-mufti-holocaust-claimIn reality, the mass killings of Jews by SS mobile killing units Einsatzgruppen were already under way when the two men met face to face. The first was in Lithuania in July 1941, described by Yad Vashem as the beginning of the Final Solution.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HHH_is_the_game 11/10/23 10:06:57 AM #113:	It's true there are atrocities being committed and Israel's hands are not by any means clean but there also seems to be some propaganda and some "those evil Jews" attitudes that completely ignore the context of the reality that Israel lives in and the enemy they are facing. You wont see many accuse USA of being genocidal after 9/11 and saying USA must have their weapons taken away and be dismantled. And Israel is under much greater threat than we were at that time If you demilitirize Israel it will be destroyed, there will be no more Jewish state, and most of the people who live there will be killed and we'll be at real threat of a legitimate genocide. --- Shelton undoubtedly wants Cena's championship belt. And Cena undoubtedly wants Shelton's black heritage.- looseiver <cite>HHH_is_the_game posted [p:977138293] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>It's true there are atrocities being committed and Israel's hands are not by any means clean but there also seems to be some propaganda and some "those evil Jews" attitudes that completely ignore the context of the reality that Israel lives in and the enemy they are facing. You wont see many accuse USA of being genocidal after 9/11 and saying USA must have their weapons taken away and be dismantled. And Israel is under much greater threat than we were at that timeIf you demilitirize Israel it will be destroyed, there will be no more Jewish state, and most of the people who live there will be killed and we'll be at real threat of a legitimate genocide. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
whitelytning 11/10/23 10:10:03 AM #114:	HHH_is_the_game posted... It's true there are atrocities being committed and Israel's hands are not by any means clean but there also seems to be some propaganda and some "those evil Jews" attitudes that completely ignore the context of the reality that Israel lives in and the enemy they are facing. You wont see many accuse USA of being genocidal after 9/11 and saying USA must have their weapons taken away and be dismantled. And Israel is under much greater threat than we were at that time If you demilitirize Israel it will be destroyed, there will be no more Jewish state, and most of the people who live there will be killed and we'll be at real threat of a legitimate genocide. Good post. Unfortunately, realism doesnt go far here. You will just be personally attacked for having a reasonable take. --- ************************************************ http://i.imgur.com/iZdWIKJ.jpg <cite>whitelytning posted [p:977138336] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>HHH_is_the_game posted... </cite><quote>It's true there are atrocities being committed and Israel's hands are not by any means clean but there also seems to be some propaganda and some "those evil Jews" attitudes that completely ignore the context of the reality that Israel lives in and the enemy they are facing. You wont see many accuse USA of being genocidal after 9/11 and saying USA must have their weapons taken away and be dismantled. And Israel is under much greater threat than we were at that timeIf you demilitirize Israel it will be destroyed, there will be no more Jewish state, and most of the people who live there will be killed and we'll be at real threat of a legitimate genocide.</quote>Good post. Unfortunately, realism doesnt go far here. You will just be personally attacked for having a reasonable take. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mustachedmystic 11/10/23 10:12:49 AM #115:	Maybe no one accused us of genocide, because no reasonable person could see what we did in Afghanistan, and come to the conclusion that we were trying to wipe out the Afghani population. --- fire in the disco, fire in the Taco Bell <cite>mustachedmystic posted [p:977138362] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>Maybe no one accused us of genocide, because no reasonable person could see what we did in Afghanistan, and come to the conclusion that we were trying to wipe out the Afghani population. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 11/10/23 10:39:28 AM #116:	what America did after 9 11 was wrong. But so is what Israel is doing. Hamas has no ability to ever wipe out Israel. But Israel can wipe out all of Palestine. Maybe the solution is to have a third party peacekeeping force keeping order. I don't care if it's "not fair" or humiliating to Israel. Clearly Israel can't be trusted to show restraint <cite>Zikten posted [p:977138785] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>what America did after 9 11 was wrong. But so is what Israel is doing. Hamas has no ability to ever wipe out Israel. But Israel can wipe out all of Palestine. Maybe the solution is to have a third party peacekeeping force keeping order. I don't care if it's "not fair" or humiliating to Israel. Clearly Israel can't be trusted to show restraint </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TonyKojima 11/10/23 10:41:10 AM #117:	Zikten posted... what America did after 9 11 was wrong. But so is what Israel is doing. Hamas has no ability to ever wipe out Israel. But Israel can wipe out all of Palestine. Maybe the solution is to have a third party peacekeeping force keeping order. I don't care if it's "not fair" or humiliating to Israel. Clearly Israel can't be trusted to show restraint We had a right to invade Afghanistan it was just handled poorly by the Bush admin. --- Hideo Kojima is a true innovator Trump is a traitor <cite>TonyKojima posted [p:977138823] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite><quote>what America did after 9 11 was wrong. But so is what Israel is doing. Hamas has no ability to ever wipe out Israel. But Israel can wipe out all of Palestine. Maybe the solution is to have a third party peacekeeping force keeping order. I don't care if it's "not fair" or humiliating to Israel. Clearly Israel can't be trusted to show restraint</quote>We had a right to invade Afghanistan it was just handled poorly by the Bush admin. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 11/10/23 10:41:57 AM #118:	TonyKojima posted... We had a right to invade Afghanistan it was just handled poorly by the Bush admin. We got attacked by Saudi Arabia, but then invaded 2 other countries who weren't involved <cite>Zikten posted [p:977138833] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>TonyKojima posted... </cite><quote>We had a right to invade Afghanistan it was just handled poorly by the Bush admin.</quote>We got attacked by Saudi Arabia, but then invaded 2 other countries who weren't involved</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TonyKojima 11/10/23 10:42:40 AM #119:	Zikten posted... We got attacked by Saudi Arabia, but then invaded 2 other countries who weren't involved I apologize but that is entirely incorrect. --- Hideo Kojima is a true innovator Trump is a traitor <cite>TonyKojima posted [p:977138845] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite><quote>We got attacked by Saudi Arabia, but then invaded 2 other countries who weren't involved</quote>I apologize but that is entirely incorrect. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
divot1338 11/10/23 10:53:50 AM #120:	The solution definitely isnt to let a dishonest piece of shit like Netanyahu call the shots. If our resources are going to continue being used to get US hostages killed then the guy who instigated this whole mess has to go. --- Moustache twirling villian https://i.imgur.com/U3lt3H4.jpg- Kerbey <cite>divot1338 posted [p:977139038] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>The solution definitely isnt to let a dishonest piece of shit like Netanyahu call the shots. If our resources are going to continue being used to get US hostages killed then the guy who instigated this whole mess has to go. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
divot1338 11/10/23 10:58:59 AM #121:	Zikten posted... We got attacked by 15 of 19 Saudi Arabians at the orders of a member of the Saudi royal family, but then invaded 2 other countries who weren't involved ftfy --- Moustache twirling villian https://i.imgur.com/U3lt3H4.jpg- Kerbey <cite>divot1338 posted [p:977139133] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite><quote>We got attacked by 15 of 19 Saudi Arabians at the orders of a member of the Saudi royal family, but then invaded 2 other countries who weren't involved</quote>ftfy </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DnDer 11/10/23 11:52:43 AM #122:	HHH_is_the_game posted... If you demilitirize Israel it will be destroyed, there will be no more Jewish state, and most of the people who live there will be killed and we'll be at real threat of a legitimate genocide. Israel doesn't need to demilitarize. They need to stop genociding the Palestinian people as a whole for the crimes of a small group of terrorists who committed an atrocity. What they're doing is no longer something rational people can classify as self-defense. The number of refugee camps attacked by the IDF in just the last week stands in evidence of that. --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:977140112] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>HHH_is_the_game posted... </cite><quote>If you demilitirize Israel it will be destroyed, there will be no more Jewish state, and most of the people who live there will be killed and we'll be at real threat of a legitimate genocide.</quote>Israel doesn't need to demilitarize. They need to stop genociding the Palestinian people as a whole for the crimes of a small group of terrorists who committed an atrocity. What they're doing is no longer something rational people can classify as self-defense. The number of refugee camps attacked by the IDF in just the last week stands in evidence of that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FlyEaglesFly24 11/10/23 12:22:39 PM #123:	Zikten posted... what America did after 9 11 was wrong. But so is what Israel is doing. Hamas has no ability to ever wipe out Israel. But Israel can wipe out all of Palestine. In what way can you categorize what the US in Afghanistan after 9/11 as wrong? The financier and organizer of the operation was there. His organization had attacked the US several times already in other parts of the globe, and declared war on us. The Afghan government, which was already brutalizing its own people, refused to turn him over. So we went to go get him. We completely fucked up the operation in terms of actually accomplishing the goal, but theres no way you could convince me that the idea was wrong. Hamas absolutely has the power to wipe out Israel. We are seeing it play out in real time right now. By provoking the Jewish state into armed conflict in which civilians are going to die, you erode foreign support for the Israelis. Calls for demilitarization begin, protests happen around the world, people demand their governments to intervene to stop the violence. As that happens, foreign aid gets cut, accusations of genocide emerge, and before you know it, a country of 6.5 million Israelis is surrounded by almost a billion Arabs all of which are pissed off, and without the foreign support to keep this new Arab Spring at bay, you essentially have a situation where its 6.5 million Jews against the world. And in that strategy, Hamas gets exactly what it wants, because those people are either going to leave, or they are going to fight. And how do you think its going to go? --- My resolution - the next time the Eagles are in the Superbowl, I'm going! February 10th, 2023 <cite>FlyEaglesFly24 posted [p:977140691] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote> </cite> Zikten posted... <quote>what America did after 9 11 was wrong. But so is what Israel is doing. Hamas has no ability to ever wipe out Israel. But Israel can wipe out all of Palestine.</quote>In what way can you categorize what the US in Afghanistan after 9/11 as wrong? The financier and organizer of the operation was there. His organization had attacked the US several times already in other parts of the globe, and declared war on us. The Afghan government, which was already brutalizing its own people, refused to turn him over. So we went to go get him. We completely fucked up the operation in terms of actually accomplishing the goal, but theres no way you could convince me that the idea was wrong.Hamas absolutely has the power to wipe out Israel. We are seeing it play out in real time right now. By provoking the Jewish state into armed conflict in which civilians are going to die, you erode foreign support for the Israelis. Calls for demilitarization begin, protests happen around the world, people demand their governments to intervene to stop the violence. As that happens, foreign aid gets cut, accusations of genocide emerge, and before you know it, a country of 6.5 million Israelis is surrounded by almost a billion Arabs all of which are pissed off, and without the foreign support to keep this new Arab Spring at bay, you essentially have a situation where its 6.5 million Jews against the world.And in that strategy, Hamas gets exactly what it wants, because those people are either going to leave, or they are going to fight. And how do you think its going to go? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DnDer 11/10/23 12:40:43 PM #124:	FlyEaglesFly24 posted... Hamas absolutely has the power to wipe out Israel. We are seeing it play out in real time right now. By provoking the Jewish state into armed conflict in which civilians are going to die, you erode foreign support for the Israelis. Are you taking the piss? "If we just bait Israel into killing all of us, we win because everyone will kill Israel after we're dead and gone and genocided," is not Hamas having the power to wipe out Israel. Do you hear yourself? --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:977141015] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>FlyEaglesFly24 posted... </cite><quote>Hamas absolutely has the power to wipe out Israel. We are seeing it play out in real time right now. By provoking the Jewish state into armed conflict in which civilians are going to die, you erode foreign support for the Israelis.</quote>Are you taking the piss?"If we just bait Israel into killing all of us, we win because everyone will kill Israel after we're dead and gone and genocided," is not Hamas having the power to wipe out Israel.Do you hear yourself? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AltAccount3 11/10/23 12:41:09 PM #125:	Debate has gone on for enough pages now. It's not going to lead anywhere --- VFalcone, one of many <cite>AltAccount3 posted [p:977141022] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>Debate has gone on for enough pages now. It's not going to lead anywhere </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkace77450 11/10/23 1:20:50 PM #126:	HHH_is_the_game posted... But people should also stop referring to what Israel is doing as a genocide as if its fact. At what point does Israel's right to defend itself end and Palestinians' right to existence begin? How many innocent civilians does Israel have to kill before we're allowed to question the proportionality with which they're responding to Hamas' terror attacks? I don't think Israel's aim is genocide, but if there's no limit to the number of casualties they're willing to inflict to destroy Hamas, we might get there anyway. <cite>darkace77450 posted [p:977141789] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>HHH_is_the_game posted... </cite><quote>But people should also stop referring to what Israel is doing as a genocide as if its fact.</quote>At what point does Israel's right to defend itself end and Palestinians' right to existence begin? How many innocent civilians does Israel have to kill before we're allowed to question the proportionality with which they're responding to Hamas' terror attacks? I don't think Israel's aim is genocide, but if there's no limit to the number of casualties they're willing to inflict to destroy Hamas, we might get there anyway. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
punkfanalways 11/10/23 1:28:09 PM #127:	AltAccount3 posted... Debate has gone on for enough pages now. It's not going to lead anywhere This has been the case with anything Israel \ Palestine related for decades on the board. All we can do is comment on what we see. <cite>punkfanalways posted [p:977141936] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>AltAccount3 posted... </cite><quote>Debate has gone on for enough pages now. It's not going to lead anywhere</quote>This has been the case with anything Israel \ Palestine related for decades on the board. All we can do is comment on what we see.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
McSame_as_Bush 11/10/23 1:32:11 PM #128:	https://twitter.com/TPostMillennial/status/1722982731833835681?t=dEsMvv5YvkZAyzSB7pABcw&s=19 --- Naz Reid <cite>McSame_as_Bush posted [p:977142015] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/TPostMillennial/status/1722982731833835681?t=dEsMvv5YvkZAyzSB7pABcw&s=19 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 11/10/23 1:34:05 PM #129:	HHH_is_the_game posted... Its really not an issue that either side should be making sound one sided at this point. You will either say something offensive to one side or the other. But people should also stop referring to what Israel is doing as a genocide as if its fact. Its overly incisive and possibly offensive language when they are facing a genocidal group that unleashed a horrible terrorist attack upon them and wants to wipe them from the face of the Earth. But on the other hand going 100% pro Israel at this point is equally offensive and disrespectful to the loss of life on the other side Israel is an apartheid regime currently engaged in ethnic cleansing. There, feel better big guy? --- Furthermore, The GOP is a Fascist Organization and must be destroyed <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:977142049] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>HHH_is_the_game posted... </cite><quote>Its really not an issue that either side should be making sound one sided at this point. You will either say something offensive to one side or the other. But people should also stop referring to what Israel is doing as a genocide as if its fact. Its overly incisive and possibly offensive language when they are facing a genocidal group that unleashed a horrible terrorist attack upon them and wants to wipe them from the face of the Earth. But on the other hand going 100% pro Israel at this point is equally offensive and disrespectful to the loss of life on the other side</quote>Israel is an apartheid regime currently engaged in ethnic cleansing. There, feel better big guy? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkace77450 11/10/23 1:34:21 PM #130:	McSame_as_Bush posted... https://twitter.com/TPostMillennial/status/1722982731833835681?t=dEsMvv5YvkZAyzSB7pABcw&s=19 Things are going to get more toxic between liberals and progressives. I can't help but worry that Hamas' actions might get Trump elected. <cite>darkace77450 posted [p:977142058] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>McSame_as_Bush posted... </cite><quote>https://twitter.com/TPostMillennial/status/1722982731833835681?t=dEsMvv5YvkZAyzSB7pABcw&s=19</quote>Things are going to get more toxic between liberals and progressives. I can't help but worry that Hamas' actions might get Trump elected.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex 11/10/23 1:35:56 PM #131:	Hamas didn't exist when the Israelis committed the Nakba. Hamas's bullshit is just the current excuse they've used to hyper escalate their actions in pursuit of the goal of removing the Palestinians from the region. --- Furthermore, The GOP is a Fascist Organization and must be destroyed <cite>ScazarMeltex posted [p:977142085] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>Hamas didn't exist when the Israelis committed the Nakba. Hamas's bullshit is just the current excuse they've used to hyper escalate their actions in pursuit of the goal of removing the Palestinians from the region. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AltAccount3 11/10/23 1:38:04 PM #132:	McSame_as_Bush posted... https://twitter.com/TPostMillennial/status/1722982731833835681?t=dEsMvv5YvkZAyzSB7pABcw&s=19 As a Philadelphian, this is a bit of an L move here. He shouldn't have done that. Sure he's free to protest like anyone else, but this doesn't make him look good as an elected official. --- VFalcone, one of many <cite>AltAccount3 posted [p:977142119] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>McSame_as_Bush posted... </cite><quote>https://twitter.com/TPostMillennial/status/1722982731833835681?t=dEsMvv5YvkZAyzSB7pABcw&s=19</quote>As a Philadelphian, this is a bit of an L move here. He shouldn't have done that. Sure he's free to protest like anyone else, but this doesn't make him look good as an elected official. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ulfar 11/10/23 1:38:51 PM #133:	darkace77450 posted... Things are going to get more toxic between liberals and progressives. I can't help but worry that Hamas' actions might get Trump elected. Hamas is definitely doing Donnie and by extension Putin a lot of favors while doing any hope for a free Palestine none. That being said I like to think when it comes down to keeping the US intact people will vote accordingly next year.. <cite>Ulfar posted [p:977142129] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>darkace77450 posted... </cite><quote>Things are going to get more toxic between liberals and progressives. I can't help but worry that Hamas' actions might get Trump elected.</quote>Hamas is definitely doing Donnie and by extension Putin a lot of favors while doing any hope for a free Palestine none. That being said I like to think when it comes down to keeping the US intact people will vote accordingly next year..</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sahel 11/10/23 1:41:42 PM #134:	mustachedmystic posted... Maybe no one accused us of genocide, because no reasonable person could see what we did in Afghanistan, and come to the conclusion that we were trying to wipe out the Afghani population. We (United States) has been accused of genocide. Theres even a holiday associated with it, Thanksgiving. https://blog.nativehope.org/what-does-thanksgiving-mean-to-native-americans?hs_amp=true https://www.culturalsurvival.org/news/our-ancestors-celebrated-thanksgiving-13-times-year-demystifying-thanksgiving https://www.penncapital-star.com/commentary/celebrating-thanksgiving-is-celebrating-racist-genocide-michael-coard/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/11/23/how-native-americans-spend-thanksgiving/8628270002/ https://dailycampus.com/2022/11/15/the-genocidal-myth-of-thanksgiving/amp/ https://time.com/5457183/thanksgiving-native-american-holiday/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2022/11/19/thanksgiving-native-americans/ A possibility of what happens when you say Happy Thanksgiving to a Native American: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyuUBg0kqzo --- "Games don't get worse over time. Only your expectations change. A game from 1999 is going to play the same in 2017." - Vegeta1000 <cite>Sahel posted [p:977142168] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>mustachedmystic posted... </cite><quote>Maybe no one accused us of genocide, because no reasonable person could see what we did in Afghanistan, and come to the conclusion that we were trying to wipe out the Afghani population.</quote>We (United States) has been accused of genocide. Theres even a holiday associated with it, Thanksgiving.https://blog.nativehope.org/what-does-thanksgiving-mean-to-native-americans?hs_amp=truehttps://www.culturalsurvival.org/news/our-ancestors-celebrated-thanksgiving-13-times-year-demystifying-thanksgivinghttps://www.penncapital-star.com/commentary/celebrating-thanksgiving-is-celebrating-racist-genocide-michael-coard/https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/11/23/how-native-americans-spend-thanksgiving/8628270002/https://dailycampus.com/2022/11/15/the-genocidal-myth-of-thanksgiving/amp/https://time.com/5457183/thanksgiving-native-american-holiday/https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2022/11/19/thanksgiving-native-americans/A possibility of what happens when you say Happy Thanksgiving to a Native American:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyuUBg0kqzo </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
punkfanalways 11/10/23 2:59:26 PM #135:	ScazarMeltex posted... Israel is an apartheid regime currently engaged in ethnic cleansing. There, feel better big guy? Israel is like 25% Muslims. Muslims in Israel enjoy the same rights of all other citizens. The state of some of the things it does against Palestine is definitely questionable but Im not sure apartheid is the right word. <cite>punkfanalways posted [p:977143440] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>ScazarMeltex posted... </cite><quote>Israel is an apartheid regime currently engaged in ethnic cleansing. There, feel better big guy?</quote>Israel is like 25% Muslims. Muslims in Israel enjoy the same rights of all other citizens. The state of some of the things it does against Palestine is definitely questionable but Im not sure apartheid is the right word. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 11/10/23 3:01:52 PM #136:	punkfanalways posted... Muslims in Israel enjoy the same rights of all other citizens. eeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:977143469] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>punkfanalways posted... </cite><quote>Muslims in Israel enjoy the same rights of all other citizens.</quote>eeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 11/10/23 3:03:58 PM #137:	HHH_is_the_game posted... It's true there are atrocities being committed and Israel's hands are not by any means clean but there also seems to be some propaganda and some "those evil Jews" attitudes that completely ignore the context of the reality that Israel lives in and the enemy they are facing. You wont see many accuse USA of being genocidal after 9/11 and saying USA must have their weapons taken away and be dismantled. And Israel is under much greater threat than we were at that time If you demilitirize Israel it will be destroyed, there will be no more Jewish state, and most of the people who live there will be killed and we'll be at real threat of a legitimate genocide. Friend, you are still under the impression that Israel wasn't committing the genocide before October 7th and is using the Hamas attack to justify even more extermination. America wasn't saying "there are no Arab nations" and keeping the entire Arab world in an open-air prison pre-9/11. 9/11 is not comparable to Israel-Palestine. This is more like if a terror cell was fighting Putin or the Nazis. Terrorism vs genocidal fascism is not a fight with good sides. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:977143502] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>HHH_is_the_game posted... </cite><quote>It's true there are atrocities being committed and Israel's hands are not by any means clean but there also seems to be some propaganda and some "those evil Jews" attitudes that completely ignore the context of the reality that Israel lives in and the enemy they are facing. You wont see many accuse USA of being genocidal after 9/11 and saying USA must have their weapons taken away and be dismantled. And Israel is under much greater threat than we were at that timeIf you demilitirize Israel it will be destroyed, there will be no more Jewish state, and most of the people who live there will be killed and we'll be at real threat of a legitimate genocide.</quote>Friend, you are still under the impression that Israel wasn't committing the genocide before October 7th and is using the Hamas attack to justify even more extermination. America wasn't saying "there are no Arab nations" and keeping the entire Arab world in an open-air prison pre-9/11. 9/11 is not comparable to Israel-Palestine. This is more like if a terror cell was fighting Putin or the Nazis. Terrorism vs genocidal fascism is not a fight with good sides. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Forty_Niners 11/10/23 3:10:11 PM #138:	TonyKojima posted... I apologize but that is entirely incorrect. Saudis funded 9/11. This isn't new. --- Who cares if Bosa is racist? <cite>Forty_Niners posted [p:977143603] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>TonyKojima posted... </cite><quote>I apologize but that is entirely incorrect.</quote>Saudis funded 9/11. This isn't new. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
punkfanalways 11/10/23 3:12:49 PM #139:	Tyranthraxus posted... eeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh did you post because you had something to say or because you had to say something? <cite>punkfanalways posted [p:977143633] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>eeehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh</quote>did you post because you had something to say or because you had to say something?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LaLeyenda 11/10/23 4:05:07 PM #140:	hockeybub89 posted... Friend, you are still under the impression that Israel wasn't committing the genocide before October 7th and is using the Hamas attack to justify even more extermination. America wasn't saying "there are no Arab nations" and keeping the entire Arab world in an open-air prison pre-9/11. 9/11 is not comparable to Israel-Palestine. This is more like if a terror cell was fighting Putin or the Nazis. Terrorism vs genocidal fascism is not a fight with good sides. https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beslan_school_siege --- The one and only and still the best. <cite>LaLeyenda posted [p:977144437] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite><quote>Friend, you are still under the impression that Israel wasn't committing the genocide before October 7th and is using the Hamas attack to justify even more extermination. America wasn't saying "there are no Arab nations" and keeping the entire Arab world in an open-air prison pre-9/11. 9/11 is not comparable to Israel-Palestine. This is more like if a terror cell was fighting Putin or the Nazis. Terrorism vs genocidal fascism is not a fight with good sides.</quote>https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beslan_school_siege </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 11/10/23 4:09:08 PM #141:	punkfanalways posted... did you post because you had something to say or because you had to say something? They only have the same rights on paper. They live in poorer neighborhoods and get access to worse basically everything. It's not entirely dissimilar to how POCs are treated in America except the Arabs & Muslims are probably worse off in Israel than POCs are in America. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:977144490] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>punkfanalways posted... </cite><quote>did you post because you had something to say or because you had to say something?</quote>They only have the same rights on paper. They live in poorer neighborhoods and get access to worse basically everything. It's not entirely dissimilar to how POCs are treated in America except the Arabs & Muslims are probably worse off in Israel than POCs are in America. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AltAccount3 11/10/23 4:23:17 PM #142:	[BREAKING] Israel officially revises death Israeli death toll from Hamas terrorist attack from 1,400 down to "around 1,200". https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-revises-death-toll-oct-7-hamas-attack-around-1200-2023-11-10/ 11,078 Palestinians dead in Gaza, 27,490 injured (WaPo) https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/11/10/israel-hamas-war-gaza-palestine-live/ [Unconfirmed] 181 Palestinians dead in West Bank (AA) https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/israeli-forces-kill-another-18-palestinians-in-west-bank-death-toll-rises-to-181/3048095 41 IDF soldiers dead from conflicts. Multiple injured (Haaretz) https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-11-10/ty-article-live/soldier-killed-in-northern-gaza-israel-attacks-in-syria-in-response-to-eilat-drone-strike/0000018b-b76c-df42-a78f-bf6fd3470000 UN mourns as 101 staff members have been killed in Gaza https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/un-mourns-record-death-toll-war-with-over-100-employees-killed-gaza-2023-11-10/ Anthony Blinken now denouncing Gaza death toll/condemning Israel. Saying "far too many Palestinians have been killed". A notable shift as the war goes on. EDIT: Blinken condemns the death toll, but has NOT condemned the Israeli offensive. https://edition.cnn.com/2023/11/10/politics/antony-blinken-israel-gaza/index.html Netanyahu says Israel will control Gaza. A contrast to previous notions that Israel has no interest in controlling Gaza. https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-says-idf-will-control-gaza-after-war-rejects-notion-of-international-force/ --- VFalcone, one of many <cite>AltAccount3 posted [p:977144709] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>[BREAKING] Israel officially revises death Israeli death toll from Hamas terrorist attack from 1,400 down to "around 1,200". https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-revises-death-toll-oct-7-hamas-attack-around-1200-2023-11-10/11,078 Palestinians dead in Gaza, 27,490 injured (WaPo) https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/11/10/israel-hamas-war-gaza-palestine-live/[Unconfirmed] 181 Palestinians dead in West Bank (AA) https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/israeli-forces-kill-another-18-palestinians-in-west-bank-death-toll-rises-to-181/304809541 IDF soldiers dead from conflicts. Multiple injured (Haaretz) https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-11-10/ty-article-live/soldier-killed-in-northern-gaza-israel-attacks-in-syria-in-response-to-eilat-drone-strike/0000018b-b76c-df42-a78f-bf6fd3470000UN mourns as 101 staff members have been killed in Gaza https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/un-mourns-record-death-toll-war-with-over-100-employees-killed-gaza-2023-11-10/Anthony Blinken now denouncing Gaza death toll/condemning Israel. Saying "far too many Palestinians have been killed". A notable shift as the war goes on. EDIT: Blinken condemns the death toll, but has NOT condemned the Israeli offensive. https://edition.cnn.com/2023/11/10/politics/antony-blinken-israel-gaza/index.htmlNetanyahu says Israel will control Gaza. A contrast to previous notions that Israel has no interest in controlling Gaza. https://www.timesofisrael.com/netanyahu-says-idf-will-control-gaza-after-war-rejects-notion-of-international-force/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
divot1338 11/10/23 4:30:38 PM #143:	Only Netanyahu could turn being attacked by terrorists into a PR debacle. --- Moustache twirling villian https://i.imgur.com/U3lt3H4.jpg- Kerbey <cite>divot1338 posted [p:977144816] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>Only Netanyahu could turn being attacked by terrorists into a PR debacle. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Necronmon 11/10/23 4:37:37 PM #144:	Only Netanyahu could turn being attacked by terrorists into a PR debacle. He might very well be the one that destroy's Iseral's legacy all because he wanted power no matter what. <cite>Necronmon posted [p:977144916] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote><quote>Only Netanyahu could turn being attacked by terrorists into a PR debacle.</quote>He might very well be the one that destroy's Iseral's legacy all because he wanted power no matter what. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
divot1338 11/10/23 4:56:46 PM #145:	Humble_Novice posted... This is just too much. What could be so offensive about these lovely artworks made to honor the Palestinian victims? Its safe to say the complain originated from the organization not actual patients. --- Moustache twirling villian https://i.imgur.com/U3lt3H4.jpg- Kerbey <cite>divot1338 posted [p:977145228] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>Humble_Novice posted... </cite><quote>This is just too much. What could be so offensive about these lovely artworks made to honor the Palestinian victims?</quote>Its safe to say the complain originated from the organization not actual patients. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 11/10/23 6:41:24 PM #146:	divot1338 posted... Only Netanyahu could turn being attacked by terrorists into a PR debacle. This is George W Bush erasure --- Please don't be weird in my topics <cite>Antifar posted [p:977146879] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>divot1338 posted... </cite><quote>Only Netanyahu could turn being attacked by terrorists into a PR debacle.</quote>This is George W Bush erasure </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Starks 11/10/23 6:44:58 PM #147:	Necronmon posted... He might very well be the one that destroy's Iseral's legacy all because he wanted power no matter what. Lapid, Bennett, Gantz, etc would not have handled the situation any better. --- Paid for by StarksPAC, a registered 501(c)(4) <cite>Starks posted [p:977146942] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>Necronmon posted... </cite><quote>He might very well be the one that destroy's Iseral's legacy all because he wanted power no matter what.</quote>Lapid, Bennett, Gantz, etc would not have handled the situation any better. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Intro2Logic 11/10/23 6:45:59 PM #148:	FlyEaglesFly24 posted... We completely f*ed up the operation in terms of actually accomplishing the goal, but theres no way you could convince me that the idea was wrong. This neat separation of idea and execution only works if you assume that the people behind the idea were oblivious to what military occupation by the US army would entail. It's like trying to smash a fly on a window with a hammer You see this sometimes in arguments about the impacts of criminal justice law in the US: was there some other police legislators had in mind for enforcing them? No. --- Have you tried thinking rationally? <cite>Intro2Logic posted [p:977146955] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>FlyEaglesFly24 posted... </cite><quote>We completely f*ed up the operation in terms of actually accomplishing the goal, but theres no way you could convince me that the idea was wrong.</quote>This neat separation of idea and execution only works if you assume that the people behind the idea were oblivious to what military occupation by the US army would entail. It's like trying to smash a fly on a window with a hammerYou see this sometimes in arguments about the impacts of criminal justice law in the US: was there some other police legislators had in mind for enforcing them? No. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
divot1338 11/10/23 6:46:23 PM #149:	Starks posted... Lapid, Bennett, Gantz, etc would not have handled the situation any better. Did they create the policy of propping up Hamas to delegitimize any Palestinian leaders? --- Moustache twirling villian https://i.imgur.com/U3lt3H4.jpg- Kerbey <cite>divot1338 posted [p:977146966] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>Starks posted... </cite><quote>Lapid, Bennett, Gantz, etc would not have handled the situation any better.</quote>Did they create the policy of propping up Hamas to delegitimize any Palestinian leaders? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Starks 11/10/23 6:53:23 PM #150:	Not really. --- Paid for by StarksPAC, a registered 501(c)(4) <cite>Starks posted [p:977147071] in Israel/Pal... [t:80613323]...</cite> <quote>Not really. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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