Board 8 > What do you think will be nominated for GOTY at The Game Awards this year?

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andylt
11/13/23 6:28:16 PM
#301:


2019 was such an underrated year for games
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TeamRocketElite
11/13/23 6:31:56 PM
#302:


Biggest snub for Best RPG is SMRPG, imo.

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UshiromiyaEva
11/13/23 6:33:05 PM
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Dels posted...
what even is an RPG

Pretty sure for the sake of most outlets it's any game with numbers in it besides the health bar and ammo counter.

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UshiromiyaEva
11/13/23 6:33:39 PM
#304:


TeamRocketElite posted...
Biggest snub for Best RPG is SMRPG, imo.

It literally releases the day of the cutoff.

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foolm0r0n
11/13/23 6:53:08 PM
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It released in 1996 which is way before the cutoff

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TeamRocketElite
11/13/23 6:59:05 PM
#306:


It got new content so it is eligible under the live service rule.

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MacArrowny
11/13/23 7:14:38 PM
#307:


It's a bit too slavish a remake for it to deserve a nom imo.

LightningStrikes posted...
I dont mean to be funny, but this genuinely reads like they only played two games?
It's an absolutely hilarious review.

andylt posted...
2019 was such an underrated year for games
2019 has the weakest #1 game (to me) of the last several years.

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VintageGin
11/13/23 7:33:57 PM
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BakusaiTenketsu posted...
Is it unpopular to say that I actually preferred Breath of the Wild over Tears of the Kingdom. Playing Tears of the Kingdom felt like a really big DLC and it didn't hit me the same way Breath did. In addition, I really liked Champions over Sages and the abilities in general felt more "Zelda"-like in Breath. I just feel that awed by Tears.

I'm with you on this. Tears of the Kingdom felt a lot more...checklisty, for lack of a better term. Additionally, the sky area and depths felt underdeveloped, and while I know some people loved the building, it kinda just felt like a chore to me.

I think the worst part of the sky/depths is that I became less familiar with the main overworld since you're spending so much time going above and below. In BotW, I had a much better sense of where everything was along with the terrain between areas because of how you traverse it. In TotK I was pretty much skipping past a lot of the terrain and never really got to know the map.

I still enjoyed TotK, but it definitely didn't match the experience I got from BotW.

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paperwarior
11/14/23 12:46:34 AM
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Personally, I think TotK improves on basically everything about BotW. There have been sequels to some great games recently that have been just acceptable enough sequels, not a downgrade but not terribly exciting when held up to the original, but TotK is one that completely nails it.

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WazzupGenius00
11/14/23 4:31:35 AM
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Hogwarts Legacy getting literally zero nominations rules so much

so much cope when it came out from people insisting it was an incredible game and not the most mid shit youve ever seen propped up by a dying IP

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KamikazePotato
11/14/23 4:46:16 AM
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WazzupGenius00 posted...
Hogwarts Legacy getting literally zero nominations rules so much

so much cope when it came out from people insisting it was an incredible game and not the most mid shit youve ever seen propped up by a dying IP
It was the 2nd-bestselling game of 2023. Mid it may be, but I wouldn't count on the IP as a whole dying anytime soon.

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LightningStrikes
11/14/23 6:12:00 AM
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Its like, very slowly dying. Even Hogwartss 15-20 million copies is less thsn half of the number of people who saw that purportedly terrible last Fantastic Beasts movie in cinemas (~40 million), and that film bombed. I dont think theres much growth potential because the person in control is both a terrible hate activist who rightly puts people off and a massive creative liability. The other key person is David Zaslav. Not exactly a recipe for ongoing creative success.

However, gaming is still a much smaller audience with a much higher potential return on investment because of the higher cost to purchase a game compared to getting a ticket for a movie. Though to have a brief tangent it cost me 17 to see The Marvels and I was like what? Anyway not to sound too much like a broken record whenever this topic comes up but given that, it is no surprise that when an established IP, even a declined one, gets a competently made and heavily marketed AAA game it sells a lot within the still relatively small gaming audience. Jedi Survivor sold nearly as well for instance, Spider-Man 2 did massive numbers, and you know that Avatar game will probably be huge too. It is only remarkable that it took studios and publishers this long to realise this!

Still cant believe Square Enix tanked Avengers as badly as they did, wow.

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MacArrowny
11/14/23 8:36:04 AM
#313:


LightningStrikes posted...
Jedi Survivor sold nearly as well for instance
You sure about that? I thought the data we have was all that it's selling worse than Fallen Order.

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FFDragon
11/14/23 9:05:36 AM
#314:


hnnnnnng I just realized this means the orchestra gets to play alan wake music

and there's actually several tracks that I need to hear them play

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LightningStrikes
11/14/23 9:09:59 AM
#315:


Last I saw Jedi Survivor sales were significantly up when accounting for digital:

https://twitter.com/chris_dring/status/1655455567870148610

But both those games are big sellers so it doesnt really matter!

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SHINE_GET_64
11/14/23 9:56:20 AM
#316:


https://twitter.com/AndresRestart/status/1724153587838665046

*sad Samus noises*

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FFDragon
11/14/23 10:00:01 AM
#317:


remasters are different than remakes tbqh

though maybe there should be a remaster category

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LightningStrikes
11/14/23 10:26:22 AM
#318:


I mean if Metroid Prime Remastered had gotten nominations thats a problem, its literally a touched up version of the same game. RE4 is at least totally from scratch. Future Redeemed I guess is a grey area as its DLC but not standalone like some previous nominees? If its eligible then it should probably have gotten into RPG over Starfield but still, its an excellent extension to a game thats already out.

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MacArrowny
11/14/23 10:29:26 AM
#319:


Blood and Wine won best RPG despite not being a standalone.

Future Redeemed is essentially a new game, just sold within the same package as XB3. Not sure why they didn't do the separate game thing that Torna did - maybe that format didn't work out for them last time.

Phantom Liberty did get recognition in some categories despite not being standalone at all.

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UshiromiyaEva
11/14/23 10:30:37 AM
#320:


I actually have not even heard people talk much about Future Redeemed, which is surprising with how nuts the trailers were. Certainly not in the same way as Torna, which I heard about plenty looooong even playing the XB games.

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swordz9
11/14/23 10:31:38 AM
#321:


3D World + Bowsers Fury was part of the 2021 TGAs for stuff. What do you count that as? Remastered port + DLC? Its certainly not what Id count as a brand a new game or a remake at least
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LightningStrikes
11/14/23 10:40:28 AM
#322:


I guess thinking about it those are all as standalone as Future Redeemed is (eg require the game but played or can be played separately). In which case get out of here Starfield!

Either way the truth is it just got buried by Zelda, its one of the best expansions Ive played.

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swordz9
11/14/23 10:45:41 AM
#323:


Clearly got forgotten because TotK was the largest DLC Nintendo has ever released. Its fun to shit on Starfield though. Game looked boring as hell and it sounds like people have their fair share of issues with it, but all these game places acted like it was gonna be the greatest thing to hit the gaming industry in ages
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FFDragon
11/14/23 10:50:02 AM
#324:


TotK is the sixth best of the nominees, but will prob win on name alone.

Starfield is whatever but also looks worse being in the same year as BG3, a true generational RPG.

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LightningStrikes
11/14/23 10:50:16 AM
#325:


TotK is a DLC is going to be the new 3D World is a 3D Land port isnt it.

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swordz9
11/14/23 10:51:20 AM
#326:


First Ive heard the latter. TotK still looked like enough of the same to make me not want to ever play it even if offered it for free though
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MoogleKupo141
11/14/23 10:56:15 AM
#327:


LightningStrikes posted...
I guess thinking about it those are all as standalone as Future Redeemed is (eg require the game but played or can be played separately). In which case get out of here Starfield!

Either way the truth is it just got buried by Zelda, its one of the best expansions Ive played.

realistically I dont think it even needed to be buried its post-game story dlc (I think? It takes place after the end of 3, right?) for a giant JRPG. how many of the people responsible for nominations were ever going to play that?

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LightningStrikes
11/14/23 10:57:54 AM
#328:


In all seriousness, TotK does have the old (altered) map but it also contains two other brand new maps, so theres easily a new games worth of content and then some. Lot of new games include content from the last one!

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UshiromiyaEva
11/14/23 10:59:49 AM
#329:


I mean there's some truth to the statement, or at least understandable confusion. Most of TotK's new ideas were originally designed with the intention of being DLC, before being transitioned into a new game because they had too many new features.

While it's an exaggeration to all it DLC, the games are similar enough that I don't think the scenario of not liking BotW but liking TotK doesn't really exist.

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MacArrowny
11/14/23 11:02:54 AM
#330:


MoogleKupo141 posted...
realistically I dont think it even needed to be buried its post-game story dlc (I think? It takes place after the end of 3, right?) for a giant JRPG. how many of the people responsible for nominations were ever going to play that?
No, it's an independent story that takes place hundreds of years before XB3.

It does feature characters from XB1 and XB2 though.

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KamikazePotato
11/14/23 11:05:02 AM
#331:


FFDragon posted...
TotK is the sixth best of the nominees, but will prob win on name alone.
I think BG3 has like an 80% chance of winning.

MoogleKupo141 posted...
realistically I dont think it even needed to be buried its post-game story dlc (I think? It takes place after the end of 3, right?) for a giant JRPG. how many of the people responsible for nominations were ever going to play that?
Yeah Future Connected needs insane time investment to play. Three big JRPGs worth of it.

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TomNook7
11/14/23 11:05:05 AM
#332:


nah tears of the kingdom 10/10, best in the series, game of the year, suck it detractors

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SHINE_GET_64
11/14/23 11:06:50 AM
#333:


I'm definitely in the camp of TotK takes a big dump over BotW that's there's no point to ever having to play BotW ever again

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pjbasis
11/14/23 11:34:19 AM
#334:


LightningStrikes posted...
but it also contains two other brand new maps,

this is a very generous way of putting it

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FFDragon
11/14/23 11:35:06 AM
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SHINE_GET_64 posted...
I'm definitely in the camp of TotK takes a big dump over BotW that's there's no point to ever having to play BotW ever again

I agree with this but also with the caveat that botw was not a good game and totk is simply an okay game.

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swordz9
11/14/23 11:51:22 AM
#336:


Im amazed people who didnt care for BotW even tried the sequel after how similar they looked especially at a $70 price. I guess I can understand it though since a lot of us keep giving GameFreak a chance only for them to shit out another unfinished feeling Pokemon game. Got no hope for Gen 10 at all :(
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LightningStrikes
11/14/23 11:52:33 AM
#337:


TomNook7 posted...
nah tears of the kingdom 10/10, best in the series, game of the year, suck it detractors


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FFDragon
11/14/23 12:00:02 PM
#338:


addendum: I paid for neither botw nor totk

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foolm0r0n
11/14/23 12:08:11 PM
#339:


Hope you BOTW fanboys are happy for another 8-12 years of BOTW follow-ups, each of which tops the GOTY lists

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pjbasis
11/14/23 12:11:31 PM
#340:


foolm0r0n posted...
are happy for another 8-12 years of BOTW follow-ups,

so, like, 1 more game?

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foolm0r0n
11/14/23 12:20:12 PM
#341:


was thinking 2 but yeah

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MacArrowny
11/14/23 12:22:55 PM
#342:


I feel like more people should complain about the reused map being a negative for the Spider-man games if they're gonna do it for Zelda.

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LightningStrikes
11/14/23 12:28:30 PM
#343:


Two more games that have an incredible amount of content with amazing mechanics and systems which redefine interactivity with the world? Hell yeah.

MacArrowny posted...
I feel like more people should complain about the reused map being a negative for the Spider-man games if they're gonna do it for Zelda.

This was what I was implying!

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UshiromiyaEva
11/14/23 12:32:54 PM
#344:


I want a Zelda that's only dungeons.

Even Hyrule Field is too much.

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LightningStrikes
11/14/23 12:36:43 PM
#345:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
I want a Zelda that's only dungeons.

Even Hyrule Field is too much.

The game you want is, and I mean this totally unironically, Skyward Sword.

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MacArrowny
11/14/23 12:37:41 PM
#346:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
I want a Zelda that's only dungeons.

Even Hyrule Field is too much.
Big fan of Chamber Dungeons, huh?

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UshiromiyaEva
11/14/23 12:44:45 PM
#347:


MacArrowny posted...
Big fan of Chamber Dungeons, huh?

Naw because that's generic crap. I want a game that's 20, fully realized and structured Zelda dungeons in 3D.

LightningStrikes posted...
The game you want is, and I mean this totally unironically, Skyward Sword.

I liked SS far more than the average person outside of the annoyances that came from...the open world parts!

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foolm0r0n
11/14/23 1:02:40 PM
#348:


LightningStrikes posted...
The game you want is, and I mean this totally unironically, Skyward Sword.
Best recent 3D Zelda

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foolm0r0n
11/14/23 1:03:51 PM
#349:


also Okami

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PeaceFrog
11/14/23 1:17:58 PM
#350:


Now there's a game i need to play again.

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