Current Events > Israel/Palestine War: Live Thread 4 (Remake)

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McSame_as_Bush
11/04/23 2:13:59 PM
#400:


Mystereave posted...
This is all going to leave the left in our country divided as hell and let Trump coast into another win, isn't it?

Saw some of those little street corner groups with the signs all talking about how bad Biden is in all this.

Idk. Trump's plan would be to let Israel do whatever it wants with no pushback. It's an easy choice for any leftist.

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Cheater87
11/04/23 2:14:38 PM
#401:


McSame_as_Bush posted...
Idk. Trump's plan would be to let Israel do whatever it wants with no pushback.

Trump would let Russia and Isreal go crazy.

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punkfanalways
11/04/23 2:14:54 PM
#402:


McSame_as_Bush posted...
Idk. Trump's plan would be to let Israel do whatever it wants with no pushback.

From a Brit perspective thats business as usual then. Hows that differ to what Biden is doing?
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McSame_as_Bush
11/04/23 2:31:03 PM
#403:


punkfanalways posted...
From a Brit perspective thats business as usual then. Hows that differ to what Biden is doing?

Basically what this Trump clone says he'll do if he's elected.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/ec6fdcb1.jpg

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Forty_Niners
11/04/23 2:41:07 PM
#405:


McSame_as_Bush posted...
Basically what this Trump clone says he'll do if he's elected.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/ec6fdcb1.jpg
Is there a bigger piece of shit in politics under 50 than this fuckwad?

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Tyranthraxus
11/04/23 2:56:49 PM
#406:


Forty_Niners posted...
Is there a bigger piece of shit in politics under 50 than this fuckwad?
Yes. But let's not talk about that too much.

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Trumble
11/04/23 3:26:59 PM
#407:


TheHorus posted...
If Vladimir Putin is regarded as the new Hitler then Netanyahu should be regarded as the new Himmler. New Himmler already openly indicated that he intends to commit genocide on the Palestine prior to the October 7ths attack. He already caused BS years ago such as the illegal annexation of some of Syrias territory.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJUXKq2bgQ8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pj6sHiAqeA
Netanyahu is literally the closest thing the world has to a modern day Hitler. Putin is just a generic warmongering leader who, 100 years ago, would not have stood out as anything unusual. He only seems especially bad because people like him are no longer commonplace (and that is of course a very good thing, to be clear). That's by no means defending Putin, he's awful too, but Netanyahu is on a whole different level.

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Humble_Novice
11/04/23 4:00:05 PM
#408:


https://twitter.com/AJEnglish/status/1720158775418433643

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Cheater87
11/04/23 4:05:55 PM
#409:


Mock, more like torture.

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AltAccount3
11/04/23 6:09:32 PM
#410:


  • [LIVE FOOTAGE] Big inferno currently in Gaza. See on Reuters feed https://www.youtube.com/live/mPbJSXXgbxg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/8bdb96dd.jpg
  • 9,488 Palestinians dead in Gaza, 24,000 injured. (WaPo and AJ)
  • 144 Palestinians dead in West Bank, 2,200 injured.
  • 24 IDF soldiers dead from combat in Gaza (Both this and previous bullet from AP) https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-war-death-toll-numbers-injured-5c9dc40bec95a8408c83f3c2fb759da0
  • "A strike hit a U.N. school sheltering families in the Jabalya refugee camp in northern Gaza on Saturday, the U.N. relief agency UNRWA said. It said children were among those reported killed in the attack, a day after a deadly Israeli strike on an ambulance outside Gaza Citys largest hospital." (Also WaPo)
  • Estimated 400,000 Palestinians remain in northern Gaza. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/11/04/israel-gaza-war
  • Large Israeli airstrikes impact Lebanese city Kfar Chouba, lighting up the night sky. https://twitter.com/ariel_oseran/status/1720889241360617845
  • Hamas unleashes barrage of missiles towards Israel, but the Iron Dome successfully blocks all of them. https://twitter.com/manniefabian/status/1720895252171461117
  • The UN says that the average Palestinian is currently living on 2 pieces of bread per day. https://news.sky.com/story/israel-hamas-war-average-person-in-gaza-living-on-two-pieces-of-bread-per-day-un-says-13000048?dcmp=snt-sf-twitter

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McSame_as_Bush
11/04/23 6:44:06 PM
#411:


https://twitter.com/USA_Polling/status/1720867283067715921?t=EZug_QMzk4htLCUDeUZb4Q&s=19

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Necronmon
11/04/23 6:50:53 PM
#412:


There is clearly a generation gap...many older ones blame Palestinians/ the Middle East for most of America's misery in the past decades, but younger ones seem to be making it all about what's going on right in front of them.
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Forty_Niners
11/04/23 7:00:01 PM
#413:


McSame_as_Bush posted...
https://twitter.com/USA_Polling/status/1720867283067715921?t=EZug_QMzk4htLCUDeUZb4Q&s=19
Makes sense, since Fox News and Republicans have no problem labeling all Arab's as anti American terrorists.

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AltAccount3
11/04/23 7:17:56 PM
#414:


The US has been Islamophobic since 9/11 and always will be, forever. It's as simple as that. The younger generations grow up in Islamophobia and end up phobic.

It wouldn't matter if 20 million Palestinians died.


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Forty_Niners
11/04/23 7:21:18 PM
#415:


AltAccount3 posted...
The US has been Islamophobic since 9/11 and always will be, forever. It's as simple as that. The younger generations grow up in Islamophobia and end up phobic.

It wouldn't matter if 20 million Palestinians died.
Sure, if you want to ignore all polling on the matter.

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Kradek
11/04/23 7:25:24 PM
#416:


AltAccount3 posted...
The US has been Islamophobic since 9/11 and always will be, forever. It's as simple as that. The younger generations grow up in Islamophobia and end up phobic.

It wouldn't matter if 20 million Palestinians died.

The younger generations are objectively and measurably more pro-Palestinian than the older generations.

When looking at pro-Palestinian or Jewish people calling for a ceasefire those attending are overwhelmingly younger.

The age of the Internet has allowed for younger generations to be more interconnected and exposed to demographics and situations such as the plight of the Palestinians that older generations did not have easy access to, so would either form their own opinions based off of biased ignorance or from trusted "sources", which since that's traditionally been the U.S. mainstream media we see why they were led astray into being Israeli government shills.

It's a lot easier for the Israeli government to sell their bullshit to older people than ones who have known about their bullshit for years already thanks to the Information Highway.

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Ferarri619
11/04/23 7:29:15 PM
#417:


McSame_as_Bush posted...
https://twitter.com/USA_Polling/status/1720867283067715921?t=EZug_QMzk4htLCUDeUZb4Q&s=19

So the other 50%-ish are in those numbers are just apathetic?

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darkace77450
11/04/23 8:03:39 PM
#418:


Zikten posted...
Would that even include if we decided to bomb China?

Conventional warfare is won through air superiority. The United States has by far the largest and most advanced air force in the world. Make of that what you will.
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McSame_as_Bush
11/04/23 9:26:55 PM
#419:


I wonder if part of it is that the younger you are, the less likely it is that you had a relationship with someone who fought in WWII. Not that younger people don't understand the magnitude of the war and the Holocaust, but they might not have the visceral response to Israel/Jews that someone who had a father who fought in the war might have. And there's still ~100,000 WWll veterans alive.

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punkfanalways
11/04/23 9:30:59 PM
#420:


McSame_as_Bush posted...
I wonder if part of it is that the younger you are, the less likely it is that you had a relationship with someone who fought in WWII. Not that younger people don't understand the magnitude of the war and the Holocaust, but they might not have the visceral response to Israel/Jews that someone who had a father who fought in the war might have. And there's still ~100,000 WWll veterans alive.

There are still some of us who get it.

A family relative was there when they freed a concentration camp. Hes dead now but he rarely spoke about it and when he did he said it was fucking horrifying. It was Auswitzh so I can only guess how that would have been.
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Tora_Sami
11/04/23 11:57:44 PM
#421:


McSame_as_Bush posted...
I wonder if part of it is that the younger you are, the less likely it is that you had a relationship with someone who fought in WWII. Not that younger people don't understand the magnitude of the war and the Holocaust, but they might not have the visceral response to Israel/Jews that someone who had a father who fought in the war might have. And there's still ~100,000 WWll veterans alive.

That has nothing to do with anything. It doesn't give Israel a free pass to commit similar atrocities and a genocide of their own.

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Foppe
11/05/23 2:04:23 AM
#422:


Israel is supposed to have promised a 4 hour attack-free corridor between 10 and 14, for people that want to leave Gaza.

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Tora_Sami
11/05/23 2:06:06 AM
#423:


Foppe posted...
Israel is supposed to have promised a 4 hour attack-free corridor between 10 and 14, for people that want to leave Gaza.

Probably gonna bomb the convoy and say Hamas was sneaking out.

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AltAccount3
11/05/23 2:45:30 AM
#424:


Heated protest in Jerusalem 6 hours ago where reportedly thousands of protesters were calling for Netanyahu to resign. https://streamable.com/f5fdz9

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Zikten
11/05/23 2:52:13 AM
#425:


AltAccount3 posted...
Heated protest in Jerusalem 6 hours ago where reportedly thousands of protesters were calling for Netanyahu to resign. https://streamable.com/f5fdz9
I heard they are not necessarily concerned about Palestinians, but angry that apparently a bunch of Israeli hostages have been confirmed killed by IDF bombings

But I will take any anger towards Netanyahu. Maybe they can depose him
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Dark_Arbron
11/05/23 3:42:07 AM
#426:


Zikten posted...
I heard they are not necessarily concerned about Palestinians, but angry that apparently a bunch of Israeli hostages have been confirmed killed by IDF bombings

But I will take any anger towards Netanyahu. Maybe they can depose him

If anything it at least means there is interior pressure. Since there sure as hell isnt much external.

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Cheater87
11/05/23 6:29:43 AM
#427:


Yikes! A suggestion to nuke Gaza.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-palestine-war-minister-nuking-gaza-option

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NhojAnec
11/05/23 6:40:35 AM
#428:


Cheater87 posted...
Yikes! A suggestion to nuke Gaza.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-palestine-war-minister-nuking-gaza-option

not only would that be barbaric but wouldnt it be extremely counterproductive since the fallout would travel to israel as well?

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Zikten
11/05/23 6:49:55 AM
#429:


The minister made the comments in a radio interview during which he maintained that "there are no non-combatants in Gaza", adding that providing humanitarian aid to the Strip would constitute "a failure".
Eliyahu was then asked if, since there are no non-combatants in his view, a nuclear attack on the Gaza Strip is an option. "That's one way," he responded.
When asked about the fate of Palestinians, he said: "They can go to Ireland or deserts, the monsters in Gaza should find a solution by themselves."
He also said the Gaza Strip has no right to exist, adding that anyone waving a Palestinian or Hamas flag "shouldn't continue living on the face of the earth".


Fuck this pyscho
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Tora_Sami
11/05/23 6:52:43 AM
#430:


Cheater87 posted...
Yikes! A suggestion to nuke Gaza.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-palestine-war-minister-nuking-gaza-option

So he is literally asking for genocide, yes we knew this but still. Fuckin nuts.

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darkace77450
11/05/23 7:03:06 AM
#431:


Zikten posted...
I heard they are not necessarily concerned about Palestinians, but angry that apparently a bunch of Israeli hostages have been confirmed killed by IDF bombings

You'd think they'd be pissed that Netanyahu ignored warnings that a terrorist attack that ultimately killed more than a thousand Israelis was imminent.
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Bat178
11/05/23 7:08:05 AM
#432:


NhojAnec posted...
not only would that be barbaric but wouldnt it be extremely counterproductive since the fallout would travel to israel as well?
As well as Egypt.

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Foppe
11/05/23 7:48:14 AM
#433:


NhojAnec posted...
not only would that be barbaric but wouldnt it be extremely counterproductive since the fallout would travel to israel as well?
Will probably blame Hamas for that.

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McSame_as_Bush
11/05/23 8:34:21 AM
#434:


Tora_Sami posted...
That has nothing to do with anything. It doesn't give Israel a free pass to commit similar atrocities and a genocide of their own.

I'm only talking about the poll.

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ScazarMeltex
11/05/23 9:29:24 AM
#435:


Zikten posted...
Fuck this pyscho
Yeah, but not agreeing with him and especially not letting him carry out his plan to murder or displace every man, woman, and child in Gaza makes you anti-semitic.

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AltAccount3
11/05/23 10:03:46 AM
#436:


Cheater87 posted...
Yikes! A suggestion to nuke Gaza.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-palestine-war-minister-nuking-gaza-option

Zikten posted...
[QUOTE]
Fuck this pyscho
That is freaking insane. How is this not being reported

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McSame_as_Bush
11/05/23 11:56:18 AM
#437:


https://twitter.com/manniefabian/status/1721167071076085894?s=20

https://twitter.com/manniefabian/status/1721168531612389770?s=20

Yeah, it's a tough situation for the IDF, but dropping bomb after bomb is giving Hamas exactly what they want.

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McSame_as_Bush
11/05/23 12:08:23 PM
#438:


It's...surprising how pro-Israel r/WorldNews is. I would've guessed the opposite.

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MistyKnight
11/05/23 12:22:53 PM
#439:


Ugh

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/f76e04b7.jpg


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AltAccount3
11/05/23 1:41:25 PM
#440:


McSame_as_Bush posted...
It's...surprising how pro-Israel r/WorldNews is. I would've guessed the opposite.
WorldNews is a cesspool. Getting news from there is very difficult. Everything is either from JPost or Times of Israel. This wouldn't be an issue normally but we know those sources are extremely biased towards Israel just like how Al Jazeera is biased towards Palestine. I avoid linking any news that comes from JPost/AJ/etc. as much as I can. Especially when many of the stories from Israeli media in particular aren't being reported on anywhere else.

The mods of that sub rule with an iron fist. People who are Pro-Palestine are downvoted to oblivion or banned shortly after being found out. There is genuinely a ton of propaganda posted there.

I mean FFS, they have never once posted about the death tolls of Palestinians. I find that info everyday via my own effort.

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MistyKnight
11/05/23 2:03:49 PM
#441:


It makes me scream everytime someone says jews have a right to Israel they've lived there forever then tell them that the Torah specifically says NO THEY/WE DONT.

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IceCreamOnStero
11/05/23 2:09:06 PM
#442:


McSame_as_Bush posted...
It's...surprising how pro-Israel r/WorldNews is. I would've guessed the opposite.
Stuff like r/worldnews is neoliberal overdose. Not surprising

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AltAccount3
11/05/23 2:23:28 PM
#443:


[BIG DUMP]
  • 9,770 Palestinians dead in Gaza. Of dead, 4,008 are children (The Guardian). 24,808 injured (WaPo). https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2023/nov/05/israel-hamas-war-live-dozens-killed-in-strike-on-gaza-refugee-camp -say-palestinians-protests-around-world-demand-ceasefire and https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/arab-world-us-split-gaza-ceasefire-israeli-offensive-presses-2023-11-05/
  • 151 Palestinians dead in West Bank (AJ) https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/11/5/israel-hamas-war-list-of-key-events-day-30
  • 31 IDF soldiers dead from Gaza combat (Reuters) https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/arab-world-us-split-gaza-ceasefire-israeli-offensive-presses-2023-11-05/
  • [BREAKING] 4 Lebanese dead from Israeli airstrike. One woman and 3 children. Hezbollah threatening revenge against Israel (ABC) https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/woman-3-children-killed-israeli-airstrike-south-lebanon-104644462
  • Hezbollah launches barrage of missiles on Israeli city Kiryat Shmona https://twitter.com/i24NEWS_EN/status/1721230676089803030
  • A journalist named Mohammad Al-Aloul loses all of his children, 4 of his brothers, and their children, after airstrike on refugee camp. Jesus. Reuters warns the footage is graphic. https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1721222092291780822
  • Minister Amichai Eliyhu is SUSPENDED https://www.politico.eu/article/israel-minister-amichai-eliyahu-suspend-benjamin-netanyahu-nuclear-bomb-gaza-hamas-war/
  • Iran threatens that US 'will be hit hard' if there is no ceasefire https://m.timesofindia.com/world/middle-east/iran-says-us-will-be-hit-hard-if-no-ceasefire-in-gaza/articleshow/104987970.cms
  • Israeli airstrikes hit more refugee camps in Gaza. https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-war-live-updates-11-05-2023-08a560320c5f1493fb2abc741e345e95 https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/851e9628.jpg

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FlyEaglesFly24
11/05/23 2:25:16 PM
#444:


MistyKnight posted...
It makes me scream everytime someone says jews have a right to Israel they've lived there forever then tell them that the Torah specifically says NO THEY/WE DONT.

Where does it say that?

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Starks
11/05/23 2:28:07 PM
#445:


The only thing keeping the Israeli government afloat is this war. Mandate is clearly gone.

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EbonTitanium
11/05/23 2:29:46 PM
#446:


McSame_as_Bush posted...
It's...surprising how pro-Israel r/WorldNews is. I would've guessed the opposite.
r/politics is more pro-Palenstine, but both are a bit of an echo-chamber.

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AltAccount3
11/05/23 2:32:10 PM
#447:


Israel may have messed up big time by killing a woman and her children in Lebanon. Good job making it personal now.

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MistyKnight
11/05/23 2:35:16 PM
#448:


FlyEaglesFly24 posted...
Where does it say that?
The Land cannot be sold in perpetuity says the Torah , for the Land is Mine, and you are residents and sojourners with Me. The Land belongs to God, and we are no more than His tenants upon it.

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MarcyWarcy
11/05/23 6:16:01 PM
#449:


https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1721223370941804830?s=20

damn we tried giving them more bombs, what else can we do

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McSame_as_Bush
11/05/23 6:19:49 PM
#450:


MarcyWarcy posted...
https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1721223370941804830?s=20

Lol they definitely could. It's a matter of how hard they want to push.

They could threaten to vote against them in the UN. They could recall their ambassador. Etc.

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