Board 8 > Marvel Snap Topic 18: Playing with My Man-Thing

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Finally hit infinite with a Sauron deck...

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Shadow King is my MVP recently. Counters Werewolf, counters Shuri, counters Elsa, erases High Evo debuffswhat a card

Weird that Werewolf will jump to the location of a played On Reveal that was immediately destroyed, like by Nico's destroy spell or Death's Domain, but any other situation that removes the card from the board doesn't make him jump, like if the card gets removed by Lockjaw or Luke's Bar

Yeah that is strange. I guess the game doesn't consider a card played unless it resolves on the board. Getting destroyed is still technically resolved on the board but going back to your hand or into your deck is not.

Also worth mentioning that Werewolf still moves into a lane if the on reveal is blocked by Cosmo. So the on reveal doesn't need to trigger, he's just looking to see if the card is on reveal after it resolves.

Rogue apparently doesn't trigger him because she's not on reveal after she resolves, she's ongoing now.

Some funky things going on there but it all makes sense in a weird way.

I'm watching a stream and Werewolf did jump into a lane where the on reveal was Lockjaw'd so I'm not sure why yours wasn't moving. Maybe it has to do with whichever one you played first?

It's kinda funny to me how many times Kitty has been nerfed now, yet she's just as prominent as she ever was.

Fuck Loki. So tired of that busted card. And they went and made him far stronger with the patch, just ridiculous.

Ugh I'm getting so frustrated. I just want to hit infinite for the card back and I'm stuck in the mid 90s. I keep overestimating my opponent by making what would be the smart play, except they go and do the dumbest thing that causes them to actually win.

I don't understand how it can be the dumbest thing if it causes them to win.

Spotlight Keys sound like something well see them put in bundles before you know it

FoolFantastic posted...

I don't understand how it can be the dumbest thing if it causes them to win.

Well like for instance in one game I had placed a Black Panther left on the second to last trun, with a 11 powered Nebula middle, and couple weak cards right(one being electro). It was very obvious I was going to Arnim the Black Panther so I tried to "outsmart" them(I had priority), so I instead Arnim'd my powerful Nebula. But oh look they Shang'd the BP lane anyway so it destroyed both. And this is just 1 example of many things that's happened today.

Oh, wonder how much theyll change the price of bundles.

My advice to get to 100 is Tribunal deck if you have it. Very few cards being played that counter it right now.

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This hasn't been edited since recent nerfs so it could use a few adjustments.

No Tribunal :/

I want to try out a different kind of Nico deck, but so far my experimenting isnt going too well. I dont want to just use her in what everyone else is doing

swordz9 posted...

I want to try out a different kind of Nico deck, but so far my experimenting isnt going too well. I dont want to just use her in what everyone else is doing

Cerebro 2 deck maybe?

I've used her a bit in this Patriot-ish deck that is pretty fun and effective.

I never seem to have any luck with Cerebro decks

Well Cerebro 2 can run Magik and if you ever get the Nico spell that destroys your next card and draws 2 then you could draw your whole deck I believe.

Cerebro 2 just can't hang anymore tbh, it used to be my favorite deck, especially because you could actually get a genuinely game-winning M'Baku, which is the funniest thing ever.

Werewolf by night seems a bit too easy to pump

Probably needs a once per turn limit tbh

That's the entire game design. Release super broken card -> get everyone to fomo buy it -> nerf it into the ground with zero compensation

C2 has not been going well. I think Ill just keep trying random stuff til something clicks

That's kinda surprising, I might test it out too. Theoretically it should be pretty easy to get 28 power into two lanes (you can put Blue Marvel in the deck because he raises everyone up to 3 and they still get buffed).

FFDragon posted...

That's the entire game design. Release super broken card -> get everyone to fomo buy it -> nerf it into the ground with zero compensation

Eh.

Honestly it's about half now and was better before that. Alioth, Loki, Werewolf, Elsa are the ones it applies to recently.

Werewolf and Elsa to me are the main ones where I feel like "this should have been obvious" though and start to doubt they aren't exploiting a bit.

Looking at the upcoming cards I don't think any upcoming seem broken though so I am almost willing to believe that they're just stupid with reusable buffs.

I think Werewolf is right on the line of being okay but I could see them removing 1 or 2 power from him.

He can pretty easily get into the 10-12 range and I think he would feel better in the 8-10 range.

But it's a little weird to think you spend so much effort buffing him up and then he just ends up with 1-2 more power than Wolfsbane who barely sees any play.

We accept some cards having crazy value like Patriot or Cerebro because they're build around cards and they enable deck archetypes. I'd prefer Werewolf closer to the build around tier than just throwing him into any deck with on reveals. I don't know how you really do that though.

Maybe a 4/0 that gets +3 each time he moves? Or even a 5/0 that gets +4 or +5 every time he moves?

Werewolf at 2/1 would be good value.

I just had the most unfair Conquest match ever. Final match of Gold, Deaths Domain AND Rickety bridge showed up multiple times each, and of course the opponent was running X-23/Wolverine/Nimrod destroy.

They literally admitted to it in the last patch notes. It's no longer just speculation.

skullbone posted...

He can pretty easily get into the 10-12 range and I think he would feel better in the 8-10 range.

The problem is decks devoted to making him big can get him into the 17-19 range without a ton of work.

It's just too easy to spam a bunch of on reveals. It gets to the point where he's basically Bishop with a +2

3/4 +1 is probably better.

I've been playing Werewolf a lot and I didn't even realize his trigger gives him +2 power lol. I thought it was only +1.

3/4 +1 feels okay

Like you think I'm exaggerating but if you run Thor (+hammer), Wasp, Yellowjacket, and Jane and play them all it's +10 by itself. That makes him 3/13. You can 3/15 him with a tempo turn 6 drop at that point, and if Magick or multiple turn 6s drop its easy to crack 17.

3/4 +1 seems to be much more reasonable. In a standard Thor Jane deck he'd only be hitting 3/9 with no effort (Dazzler would love 3/9) and in a less focused deck he'd be doing 3/6 or 3/7 which is honestly fine.

Just be happy he isnt an On Reveal himself or youd probably see Werewolf + Absorbing Man and have two power movers

Gonna start running Kingpin + Magneto until it falls out of vogue myself

If only silver was magnetic there would be a good joke here but alas

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LMAO

Yeah that's a pretty embarrassing response from a company.

Literally putting their fingers in their ears and going lalala not listening to you!

Start playing Cerebro 2 suddenly every game has a Luke Cage or Super Skrull.

Yep, that's definitely what I was seeing in all of my games before I made this deck.

Im telling you whenever you make a new deck you almost immediately face something to counter it even if you havent seen the card(s)/deck in months.

I've been saying that for months. People think I'm just being tinfoil hat/"Teh anecdote!!!1" and I don't care enough to do an official data study of it.

Yeah it's been around pretty much the beta. People have done studies that say it's all random but we all know the truth.

I mean I think it's impossible to really do a study is the problem. I've thought about it and I don't even know how to go about it.

If we had like post match recaps that showed full enemy decks that would make it way easier

I did a very small survey of my own experience with a discard deck vs a different deck and 8/10 of my discard games were a mirror match. While 0/10 of my matches with the other deck were against a discard deck. No one can convince me it's not rigged in some way.

Anywho, what are you guys have success with right now? I still haven't found something that works for me.

Looks like they already backtracked on the discord feedback thing lol. This is the second time this same exact thing has happened. The discord is such a mess lol

Waluigi1 posted...

Anywho, what are you guys have success with right now? I still haven't found something that works for me.

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No one respects Rogue
No one respects Shadow King
Few even respect Shang Chi

I think Bounce is probably pretty strong right now too but I don't have a list.

I think they went overboard on Black Widow buff. Giving your opponent multiple bites is so annoying to deal with.

Wut. It's just -1 lol. Not that it doesn't make a difference but to say they went overboard feels a bit silly.
Jakyl25 posted...

No one respects Rogue
No one respects Shadow King
Few even respect Shang Chi

I see at least one or more of those every game! And come across Darkhawk very often. I guess I could go with the whole "If you can't beat 'em, join' em" thing but meh, it's just such an old tired deck type that I've used a lot in the past.

Well the -1 is kind of a big deal. You're forced to clutter a lane with it or give up priority on an empty lane.

I don't think she needs a nerf though.

Waluigi1 posted...

Wut. It's just -1 lol. Not that it doesn't make a difference but to say they went overboard feels a bit silly.

I see at least one or more of those every game! And come across Darkhawk very often. I guess I could go with the whole "If you can't beat 'em, join' em" thing but meh, it's just such an old tired deck type that I've used a lot in the past.

Well the only deck archetypes I know of that arent old and tired are Loki and Tribunal so take your pick

Could start playing Toxic/Junk in preparation for Annihilus

-_-

Weird this guy clearly lost and once the bar was like 80% gone I snapped and he just never left so I got 8 cubes. Nice I guess? No idea why they stayed though

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