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Kradek
10/06/23 12:50:21 AM
#151:


Dark_Arbron posted...
Worse than that, remember the time Activision received a tax return despite paying zero tax that year? Every American citizen paid them for the privilege of getting richer?

2A fanatics where yall at? Thats the sort of thing those guns are meant to stop, right?

I wish it was just them. Unfortunately the U.S. has a habit of paying certain companies who make millions to billions in profits a taxpayer-paid refund on top of their profits.

https://www.americanprogress.org/article/these-19-fortune-100-companies-paid-next-to-nothing-or-nothing-at-all-in-taxes-in-2021 /#:~:text=AIG%20reported%20that%20it%20will,tax%20refund%20of%20%2446%20million.

https://itep.org/55-profitable-corporations-zero-corporate-tax/


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Dark_Arbron
10/06/23 12:57:00 AM
#152:


Imagine if 300+ million Americans suddenly collectively woke up and realised they shouldnt tolerate that anymore?

While youre at it, do something about tax havens. Ban offshore assets period. No more dodging taxes in your country of operation by making your headquarters a mailbox in Panama.

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AngelsNAirwav3s
10/06/23 1:04:04 AM
#153:


ClayGuida posted...
Somebody told me that I paid more in property taxes than Trump does for MAL. If that's true, every American should be incensed.

Somebody is full of shit, unless they actually pay more than $510,000 per year in property taxes

https://www.palmbeachdailynews.com/story/news/2020/11/13/palm-beach-county-bills-trump-1-48-million-property-taxes/6276817002/


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CableZL
10/06/23 10:03:43 AM
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Edit: The reporter I normally get updates about this trial from is out today... I'll post a new thread when I find it

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CableZL
10/06/23 3:10:15 PM
#155:


https://twitter.com/MeidasTouch/status/1710361787395355084

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Ruvan22
10/06/23 3:33:56 PM
#156:


CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/MeidasTouch/status/1710361787395355084

Let me guess - Trump never knew or met Weisselberg
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TomClark
10/06/23 3:38:36 PM
#157:


Ruvan22 posted...
Let me guess - Trump never knew or met Weisselberg

I think he just got the covfefe

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CableZL
10/06/23 4:40:50 PM
#158:


https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24018551-100623-ny-trump-org-business-certificates-stay?responsive=1&title=1

Appeals court granted Trump an interim stay on the cancellation of his business certificates, but the trial will continue

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mystic_belmont
10/06/23 5:14:27 PM
#159:


CableZL posted...
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24018551-100623-ny-trump-org-business-certificates-stay?responsive=1&title=1

Appeals court granted Trump an interim stay on the cancellation of his business certificates, but the trial will continue

He also can't touch his business or any of it's assets, correct?

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CableZL
10/06/23 5:17:39 PM
#160:


mystic_belmont posted...
He also can't touch his business or any of it's assets, correct?
Yeah, that was a separate order that hasn't yet been appealed, I believe. He can't create any new businesses or move assets without notifying the court-appointed financial monitor.

Also, the New York Department of State hadn't yet acted on the cancellation of his business certificates, so stuff will remain in place until the appeals court makes a decision, I guess.

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CableZL
10/07/23 2:38:18 PM
#161:


https://edition.cnn.com/2023/10/06/politics/eric-trump-fraud-trial/index.html

The former controller of the Trump Organization says that Eric Trump directed him to make certain decisions that led to the inflated valuations of several Trump properties.

This trial is going really badly for the Trump family.

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Cemith
10/07/23 2:38:34 PM
#162:


CableZL posted...
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/10/06/politics/eric-trump-fraud-trial/index.html

The former controller of the Trump Organization says that Eric Trump directed him to make certain decisions that led to the inflated valuations of several Trump properties.

This trial is going really badly for the Trump family.

I am erect

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thronedfire2
10/07/23 3:48:51 PM
#163:


CableZL posted...
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/10/06/politics/eric-trump-fraud-trial/index.html

The former controller of the Trump Organization says that Eric Trump directed him to make certain decisions that led to the inflated valuations of several Trump properties.

This trial is going really badly for the Trump family.

He also testified when valuing Trumps Seven Springs development beginning in 2011, he included the value of seven homes not yet built at the property. He said he did this at the direction of Eric Trump, who oversaw the project.

Spreadsheets shown in court show McConneys phone conversations detailing the methodology of the Seven Springs valuation.

McConney similarly included 71 unbuilt units as realized profits in the valuation for Trumps Briarcliff, New York golf course. He did this on more than one financial statement even when the development approval of those units had been paused, he testified.

what is this, the Bluth company?

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divot1338
10/07/23 4:06:49 PM
#164:


Theres always money in the banana stand.

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Dark_Arbron
10/08/23 9:31:59 AM
#167:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


Only the worst!

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Takuya_Lee
10/08/23 9:39:03 AM
#168:


Dark_Arbron posted...
Only the worst!

The worst that money doesn't buy.

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CableZL
10/10/23 11:19:42 AM
#169:


https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1711763158803652862

This is about the discrepancy of Trump's apartment being ~11,000 square feet vs 30,000 square feet.

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CableZL
10/10/23 12:11:39 PM
#170:


https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1711767048659878236

https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1711771770443739551

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Irony
10/10/23 12:12:43 PM
#171:


CableZL posted...


https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1711771770443739551

Lmao

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CableZL
10/10/23 12:15:35 PM
#173:


https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1711776598930735469

Trump supporters are whining about the judge awarding the foundation of the case to the state in a partial summary judgement before the trial started... but the judge did that because Trump's own people are not contesting the facts with anything that is supported by law. The same stuff seems to be happening here. This is really bad for them.

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mystic_belmont
10/10/23 12:19:48 PM
#174:


CableZL posted...
Trump supporters are whining about the judge awarding the foundation of the case to the state in a partial summary judgement before the trial started... but the judge did that because Trump's own people are not contesting the facts with anything that is supported by law. The same stuff seems to be happening here. This is really bad for them.

So Trump's lawyers agreed with the state, and a summary judgement was awarded?

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CableZL
10/10/23 12:20:15 PM
#175:


https://twitter.com/stewartbishop/status/1711774954000199692

https://twitter.com/stewartbishop/status/1711777363317420456

Wow, man... Just flat out... no

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Block_that_Kick
10/10/23 12:21:15 PM
#177:


CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1711776598930735469

Trump supporters are whining about the judge awarding the foundation of the case to the state in a partial summary judgement before the trial started... but the judge did that because Trump's own people are not contesting the facts with anything that is supported by law. The same stuff seems to be happening here. This is really bad for them.

Trump is really really banking on becoming President again to get out of all of this. He has no defenses in any of his trials that hold up in a court of law and he and his attorneys know it. All he can do try to win the court of public opinion.

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CableZL
10/10/23 1:01:44 PM
#179:


https://twitter.com/stewartbishop/status/1711785082539618461

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darkace77450
10/10/23 1:04:37 PM
#181:


I'll never understand why Weisselberg didn't flip on Trump years ago. I guess the paltry five months he received for his white collar crimes wasn't enough to compel cooperation.
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CableZL
10/10/23 1:07:15 PM
#184:


mystic_belmont posted...
So Trump's lawyers agreed with the state, and a summary judgement was awarded?

Trump's lawyers were trying to argue against the state's evidence with things that had already been thrown out by this judge and the appeals court for various reasons and not anything based in fact or law. Since Trump's lawyers couldn't come up with a valid argument supported by law and kept repeating arguments that were already dismissed, that's basically the same thing as not having an argument at all.


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Takuya_Lee
10/10/23 1:19:17 PM
#185:


CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/stewartbishop/status/1711785082539618461

Interesting that he would say he reviewed it from the "30,000 foot" level...

It's like he's admitting he aimed for the bushes where there isn't even an awning nearby.

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King_Rial
10/10/23 1:45:27 PM
#187:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

I personally haven't heard anything about a box not being checked. Only that they failed to submit a request within the 15 days allotted, and failed to make any appeals in a timely manner.

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CableZL
10/10/23 1:46:23 PM
#188:


King_Rial posted...
I personally haven't heard anything about a box not being checked. Only that they failed to submit a request within the 15 days allotted, and failed to make any appeals in a timely manner.

The AG's office submitted the lawsuit with the box checked for "no jury," but Alina Habba didn't file a response within 15 days to request a jury.

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mybbqrules
10/10/23 11:54:32 PM
#190:


Ruvan22 posted...
Let me guess - Trump never knew or met Weisselberg
And then 12 dozen pictures will come out with Trump standing next to him with that fake smile and cheesy thumbs up, Trump golfing with him, Trump at a black tie event with him, Trump holding his feet while he does a beer bong, etc.

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Ruvan22
10/11/23 9:18:02 AM
#191:


mybbqrules posted...
And then 12 dozen pictures will come out with Trump standing next to him with that fake smile and cheesy thumbs up, Trump golfing with him, Trump at a black tie event with him, Trump holding his feet while he does a beer bong, etc.

Obviously deepfakes made with AI
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CableZL
10/11/23 9:40:29 AM
#192:


https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1712096937929785459

Not sure how long the trial will be on pause.

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CableZL
10/11/23 10:42:03 AM
#193:


https://twitter.com/frankrunyeon/status/1712112767417655748

The judge put it in plain words for everyone. The people who need the clarification won't see/accept it, though.

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CableZL
10/11/23 10:44:52 AM
#194:


https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1712111767269101597

https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1712113050260508841

And apparently they would have lost the request for a jury even if they've made it, so the whole thing is a moot point. There apparently isn't supposed to be a jury for this kind of case any way. I'm not sure on the details of why that is.

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darkace77450
10/11/23 10:47:13 AM
#195:


CableZL posted...
And apparently they would have lost the request for a jury even if they've made it, so the whole thing is a moot point.

Does a right to a trial by jury not apply to civil cases?
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Strider102
10/11/23 10:47:34 AM
#196:


CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1712111767269101597

https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1712113050260508841

And apparently they would have lost the request for a jury even if they've made it, so the whole thing is a moot point.

Trump later on: "They're denying my right to a jury!!!"

MAGAs: "This is a violation of his rights, damn corrupt liberals!!!"

Normal People: "No one elses fault except Trump and his lawyers for not selecting the option."

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divot1338
10/11/23 10:50:59 AM
#197:


CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1712111767269101597

https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1712113050260508841

And apparently they would have lost the request for a jury even if they've made it, so the whole thing is a moot point. There apparently isn't supposed to be a jury for this kind of case any way. I'm not sure on the details of why that is.
Because its a complicated financial case probably.

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CableZL
10/11/23 10:51:47 AM
#198:


Strider102 posted...
Trump later on: "They're denying my right to a jury!!!"

MAGAs: "This is a violation of his rights, damn corrupt liberals!!!"

Normal People: "No one elses fault except Trump and his lawyers for not selecting the option."

I could be wrong, but from what I'm understanding, it seems this kind of trial isn't supposed to have a jury in the first place. If that's the case, that needs to be reported widely by responsible media. I've been under the understanding that Alina Habba screwed up and either didn't check a box or didn't file a motion from a jury.

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CableZL
10/11/23 10:52:04 AM
#199:


divot1338 posted...
Because its a complicated financial case probably.

That makes sense.

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Strider102
10/11/23 10:53:07 AM
#200:


CableZL posted...
I could be wrong, but from what I'm understanding, it seems this kind of trial isn't supposed to have a jury in the first place. If that's the case, that needs to be reported widely by responsible media. I've been under the understanding that Alina Habba screwed up and either didn't check a box or didn't file a motion from a jury.

So ultimately it's quite possible it's just more sheer stupidity from Trump and his lawyers.

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