Poll of the Day > Breaking: Diane Feinstein has died

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r.i.p.

I'd have sympathy if she retired at a reasonable age.
Power mongers can't give up control, and I can't support people like that, alive or dead. The oldest, dustiest cog in the machine has finally broken down.
Enjoy your dirt nap.

she'll always be the fifth beatle to me, i don't care what anyone says.

RIP and I don't want to dump on someone recently deceased but we need age limits on politicians and SC members. That she was allowed to continue in her role at 90 and in clear cognitive decline is insane

Shouldn't be restricted to age limits maybe but there should be some set of parameters that officeholders need to meet in order to remain in their role. If they have health issues but have reasonable cognition and can still do the job for the most part OK keep on keeping on but holy shit Feinstein should've been gone months if not years ago

She was power mad and refused to retire even when it was obvious to everyone else that she had no business being in a position of power. Same thing is happening with McConnell. Same happened with RBG. We need radical reform to prevent this from continuing to happen, at all levels of government.

Far-Queue posted...

RIP and I don't want to dump on someone recently deceased but we need age limits on politicians and SC members. That she was allowed to continue in her role at 90 and in clear cognitive decline is insane

Shouldn't be restricted to age limits maybe but there should be some set of parameters that officeholders need to meet in order to remain in their role. If they have health issues but have reasonable cognition and can still do the job for the most part OK keep on keeping on but holy shit Feinstein should've been gone months if not years ago

I think term limits more-so then age limits will help that and solve a lot of the other problems in congress as well.

4 terms for a representative (8 years) and 2 terms for a senator (12 years) would do wonders. The only downside I could see (besides members of congress not being able to hold onto power as long, which is THEIR problem, not ours) is having to pay out more in pensions since we will have more retired congressional leaders. But even as the raging libertarian I am I would happily have taxes go towards that if it meant we didn't have Senators sitting in the same spot for 30 - 40 years and dying in office.

Edit: And yea, add limits on the Supreme Court as well. Like you can only serve on the court for 12 years.

papercup posted...

She was power mad and refused to retire even when it was obvious to everyone else that she had no business being in a position of power. Same thing is happening with McConnell. Same happened with RBG. We need radical reform to prevent this from continuing to happen, at all levels of government.

yeah i kinda agree about rbg and feinstein as well. Weren't they in obvious very poor health , but the spokespeople in their camp sent out like a public message saying, it's not as bad as it looks...etc...?

There were a lot of calls for feinstein to resign iirc. What do you believe is the main reason that she resisted all calls , to do so?

GranTurismo posted...

There were a lot of calls for feinstein to resign iirc. What do you believe is the main reason that she resisted all calls , to do so?

It might have been the same reason RBG didn't. Ego caused them to want to wait for a "special moment" to retire. In RBG's case, she wanted to leave when the first woman president was sworn in (she thought Clinton would win, in other words).

I don't think I've ever heard of her before, but good God, I don't understand how anyone thinks it's okay for someone that old to remain in politics. Anything over 70 is too old for politics, 90 is absurd.

The thing is, people kept voting for her. It's not like she just decided on her own to remain senator forever.

Gaawa_chan posted...

It might have been the same reason RBG didn't. Ego caused them to want to wait for a "special moment" to retire. In RBG's case, she wanted to leave when the first woman president was sworn in (she thought Clinton would win, in other words).

Yeah, in RGB's defense, she still had most of her faculties, and was holding on in hopes that Trump would be out of office before she died. Unfortunately that did not happen. Feinstein was mentally gone long ago, but her staff kept her in a position of power because, let's face it, our Congress are nothing more than props and puppets at this point.

Entity13 posted...

Yeah, in RGB's defense, she still had most of her faculties, and was holding on in hopes that Trump would be out of office before she died. Unfortunately that did not happen. Feinstein was mentally gone long ago, but her staff kept her in a position of power because, let's face it, our Congress are nothing more than props and puppets at this point.

If rbg had hung on till Biden took office, would roe still have been overturned?

GranTurismo posted...

If rbg had hung on till Biden took office, would roe still have been overturned?

I think there'd have been a bigger, longer fight over it, and more people pointing out that the Supreme Court is supposed to rule over cases brought before them, not undo various powers or decisions on a whim.

I didn't even know she was sick!

RIP - probably better for herself even though the obvious observation is that it's good for politics. Frankly, anyone dealing with dementia is suffering, and she did her most 'important' work decades ago. Passing is good at that point.

GranTurismo posted...

If rbg had hung on till Biden took office, would roe still have been overturned?

Getting Clinton in would've been the safer bet. Trump elected two Supreme Court Justices.

captpackrat posted...

The thing is, people kept voting for her. It's not like she just decided on her own to remain senator forever.

And? People are idiots. They also keep voting Mitch McConnell in.

Revelation34 posted...

And? People are idiots. They also keep voting Mitch McConnell in.

This. Is why we need safeguards like age limits, because the voters can be wrong. They often are, in fact.

Once a representative becomes ingrained in a populace, it becomes the automatic reaction to just keep voting for them. And her district is safely Democratic, meaning the alternative is a Republican. Which also mean no one ever primaries her. Ergo, politicians in office forever.

It's less that the people want that, more that the system supports it and forces it to happen.

captpackrat posted...

The thing is, people kept voting for her. It's not like she just decided on her own to remain senator forever.

yes she did.

by just continuing to run. in her gerrymandered district where she is essentially unopposed.

Shrek posted...

yes she did.

by just continuing to run. in her gerrymandered district where she is essentially unopposed.

Is her district mostly San Francisco? Who will take her seat now though?

GranTurismo posted...

Is her district mostly San Francisco? Who will take her seat now though?

The Rice-A-Roni trolley obvs

Remember when she leaked vital evidence to the press in the middle of the Richard Ramirez police investigation. Pepperidge Farm remembers.

Ozmose posted...

Remember when she leaked vital evidence to the press in the middle of the Richard Ramirez police investigation. Pepperidge Farm remembers.

What happened? What yr?

GranTurismo posted...

What happened? What yr?

I can't recall the year. Late 70s maybe early 80s. Anyways, when the Night Stalker investigation was happening. The cops determined that he was wearing a very rare type of shoe. There were only a couple hundred ever made worldwide, so the police were confident that if they could track down someone with those shoes, they likely had the murderer. Well, Feinstein blabbed about it to the news, and of course Ramirez immediately ditched the shoes. It was a huge setback to the investigation, and very well might have extended his killing spree.

unfortunately, she needing to go is one thing both sides agreed on

same with mitch, both sides want him gone.

Shrek posted...

yes she did.

by just continuing to run. in her gerrymandered district where she is essentially unopposed.

She was a Senator, not a Representative. They don't run in districts. Her "district" was the state of California.

Dikitain posted...

She was a Senator, not a Representative. They don't run in districts. Her "district" was the state of California.

Correct. Every state gets two Senators, and she was one.