Current Events > Didn't realize how hard is social media red pilling men into misogynism.

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I get alot of stuff about nature, animals and stuff.

You get what u search for and watch.

Ive watched a couple Red Pill videos out of curiosity.

The moderators find some of the stupidest liberal women (most of them are vapid OF models) and pit them against polished, educated conservative women and try to make it sound like the aforementioned liberal women represent all women. And the moderators on that show always side with the conservative women.

Then the clips get sliced down to 30 second clips and said clips end up circulating the internet. Their goal is to no doubt show that liberalism is a cancer and that feminism is responsible for the breakdown of society.

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A movie reviewer who gives a shallow and often hilariously wrong analysis on films. Hes the type of YouTuber who complains whenever a woman or a minority is on the screen instead of a white man.

DarkChozoGhost posted...

Sure, and that should be watched out for. But that's not leading to nearly as much abuse and death as the redpill shit is.

I wouldnt be so sure of that.

A society saturated in socially acceptable misandry leads to a LOT of depression and suicide amongst young men.

Also, it's extremely toxic to immediately counter any claim of misandry existing with "But women have it worse!"

This isn't the Oppression Olympics where it's a competition to see who is more of a victim.

Men and women both have it bad. It's important to acknowledge that.

Spot the chud.

Guns_of_Verdun posted...

"It doesn't happen to me so it doesn't happen to everyone" is a weird response...

You should probably re-read everything I wrote and save yourself this pointless rant.

GreenKnight127 posted...

I wouldnt be so sure of that.

A society saturated in socially acceptable misandry leads to a LOT of depression and suicide amongst young men.

Also, it's extremely toxic to immediately counter any claim of misandry existing with "But women have it worse!"

This isn't the Oppression Olympics where it's a competition to see who is more of a victim.

Men and women both have it bad. It's important to acknowledge that.

It's also important to acknowledge the reality and not some slippery slope fallacy that's not actually happening.

GreenKnight127 posted...

I wouldnt be so sure of that.

A society saturated in socially acceptable misandry leads to a LOT of depression and suicide amongst young men.

Also, it's extremely toxic to immediately counter any claim of misandry existing with "But women have it worse!"

This isn't the Oppression Olympics where it's a competition to see who is more of a victim.

Men and women both have it bad. It's important to acknowledge that.

Misandry is indeed a bad thing and generally visible in various legal policies but depression and suicide among young men are usually due to being unable to live up to the alpha male standards that men created, the idea that men are losers for being unable to get laid.

PBusted posted...

Misandry is indeed a bad thing and generally visible in various legal policies but depression and suicide among young men are usually due to being unable to live up to the alpha male standards that men created, the idea that men are losers for being unable to get laid.

Men are the ones who decided alpha males were attractive to females?

Fascinating.

lolife67 posted...

It's also important to acknowledge the reality and not some slippery slope fallacy that's not actually happening.

"Men arent suffering, so shut up."

k.

Misandry and Misogyny are both bad.

End of story.

I am conservative yet my youtube is filled with Smash Bros, hiking, food, programmng and vidya game music videos. If you don't like something, click on "not interested" when pulling up the settings just under the bottom right corner of the thumbnail.

Mr. Beast videos for some reason popped up in my feed. Immediately clicked "Not interested" and boom, never appeared again. Same thing when a friend brought up a few videos of Fresh and Fit and the algorithm thought I was a fan. Bing bing pow, couldn't tell you how they're doing nowadays.

ImAMarvel posted...

You've NEVER gotten recommended a video from The Critical Drinker/Ben Shapiro/some other rightwing ass*** because you happened to watch a movie review or some other kind of political video?

Come on dude. You watched a political video, of course the algorithm is going to bring up the biggest commentators in that space. Don't be naive.

GreenKnight127 posted...

Men are the ones who decided alpha males were attractive to females?

Fascinating.

Uh, yes, obviously. In reality women are varied people who are attracted to a variety of men just like men. Youre probably thinking of aiming for more desired women that will increase your social class ranking (including among men) and those are both personal issues and also generally values created by men.

Critical Drinker is usually awesome and mostly right about his critiques though.

Amazing how fast this dude burned through the benefit of the doubt we were foolishly extending him

chaos_knight posted...

Critical Drinker is usually awesome and mostly right about his critiques though.

he's part of the nu critic generation that is a weird inverse of Collider "ultra fanboy" types where he watches every comic book movie/media property thing pretty much exclusively to get mad at it/malign the death of "film" when he reviews/watches something outside of his typical lane/comfort zone like twice a year

he's not a real critic he's a glorified react youtuber that injects politics into everything, I still remember him whining about Peter in Across the Spider-verse being a bit goofy like it was an attack on white men lol. literally indistinguishable from the content anti-sjws made fun of in like 2015

cjsdowg posted...

You're gone.

Well english isnt my first language so dont fully understand the nuance behind this?

lolife67 posted...

That's not really "big tech's" issue, it's yours (and others.) You can 100% control what you get on your feed. Like the TC didn't have to even entertain any of that nonsense to begin with.

Eh, yes and no.

The problem is that a lot of manosphere/alt-right content disguises itself as something else, so unless you approach anything claiming that it's "media analysis" or "self-help" with a side eye, you're bound to accidentally stumble onto one of these videos and by the time you figure out it's more "anti-woke" garbage, YouTube has already started recommending similar content creators.

And then because this content is so low-effort that basically anybody can do it, this shit floods the algorithm in a way that more dense and detailed leftist content can't.

Zero_Destroyer posted...

he's part of the nu critic generation that is a weird inverse of Collider "ultra fanboy" types where he watches every comic book movie/media property thing pretty much exclusively to get mad at it/malign the death of "film" when he reviews/watches something outside of his typical lane/comfort zone like twice a year

he's not a real critic he's a glorified react youtuber that injects politics into everything, I still remember him whining about Peter in Across the Spider-verse being a bit goofy like it was an attack on white men lol. literally indistinguishable from the content anti-sjws made fun of in like 2015

The only around 2015 youtuber I remember that annoyed me was Razorfist. Straight went from making politics references in game rants to uploading videos about politics. He's good buddies with Sargon now, which is just delightful.

wanderingshade posted...

I try to ignore that shit on principle, but yeah I guess if Youtube knows you're male and you like video games it just starts sending you Ben Shapiro and Charlie Kirk shit. And lots and lots of Andrew Tate stuff on shorts.

If that is the content you are getting constantly it's due to someone on your device looking up things like Andrew Tate or whatever.

RchHomieQuanChi posted...

The problem is that a lot of manosphere/alt-right content disguises itself as something else, so unless you approach anything claiming that it's "media analysis" or "self-help" with a side eye, you're bound to accidentally stumble onto one of these videos and by the time you figure out it's more "anti-woke" garbage, YouTube has already started recommending similar content creators.

That's not 100% accurate as even then you can control what content mostly ends up on your feed.

Watching something ones or twice shouldn't have that content taking over your feed. And even if you content you don't want on your feed, you can tell YT to not recommend it anymore.

Accidentally coming across it shouldn't have your feed overrun with content you hate.

NatsuSama posted...

If that is the content you are getting constantly it's due to someone on your device looking up things like Andrew Tate or whatever.

I'm not normally logged into Youtube, but I have gotten recommended right wing political youtube despite hardly ever looking for it.

NatsuSama posted...

That's not 100% accurate as even then you can control what content mostly ends up on your feed.

Watching something ones or twice shouldn't have that content taking over your feed. And even if you content you don't want on your feed, you can tell YT to not recommend it anymore.

Accidentally coming across it shouldn't have your feed overrun with content you hate.

Exactly. Some people are acting as though they have no choice but to watch this content. That's not the case at all. If it's flooding your timeline or recommendations then that's on you.

wanderingshade posted...

I'm not normally logged into Youtube, but I have gotten recommended right wing political youtube despite hardly ever looking for it.

Logging into YouTube isn't the only thing controlling your feed.

On top of that, the user literally has the power to have YouTube not recommend certain content anymore assuming you aren't doing specific actions that can override that. Like visiting content you just told it not to recommend.

Social media may push the videos, but the users are the ones who choose to latch on to the first thing that somewhat suits them personally and treat it as practically their new religion.

Yep. I've also seen a lot of "American women are bad" tweets coming from those same red pill types. Like this one that was shared on a meme app

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/1/5/AAQgjdAAEtir.jpg

You act like it's just millennial/zoomer adults that have to bat the right wing shit from their feeds. They're not the problem specifically.

It's not. The problem really doesn't lie with us specifically.

It's with older people who don't possess an ounce of media literacy and pre-teen/teen (mostly white) boys that are incredibly vulnerable to this shit.

In any case, the alt-right pipeline and online youth radicalization are documented internet phenomenon. I'm not upset in any case that I myself might randomly get recommended Ben Shapiro, because I'm not an idiot. I'm annoyed that this has happened to youth and that it is WORKING. There's all these TaterTot morons now.

GreenKnight127 posted...

I wouldnt be so sure of that.

A society saturated in socially acceptable misandry leads to a LOT of depression and suicide amongst young men.

Also, it's extremely toxic to immediately counter any claim of misandry existing with "But women have it worse!"

This isn't the Oppression Olympics where it's a competition to see who is more of a victim.

Men and women both have it bad. It's important to acknowledge that.

you commented to a post talking about toxic redpill shit with "but misandry" and attempted to play the victim immediately. you are the one who is trying to claim men are oppressed unprovoked lol

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I looked up some more of his tweets and unfortunately, it seems sincere. His tweets are a mix of maga stuff and stuff like that. He also mentions multiple times that his wife is from Lebanon and he seems to have a negative opinion of women that want to work instead of staying at home popping out kids.

https://twitter.com/leadpacer/status/1681736448918052868?s=20

https://twitter.com/leadpacer/status/1565136384477773824?s=20

REALLY telling that the main thing these types like about foreign women is their supposed "submissiveness"

lolife67 posted...

Exactly. Some people are acting as though they have no choice but to watch this content. That's not the case at all. If it's flooding your timeline or recommendations then that's on you.

But that's just the thing though. I'm not "choosing" to watch that content. I'm choosing to watch a review of the latest Marvel project from a content creator I haven't discovered before, only to find that they're another dime-a-dozen reactionary YouTuber and YouTube thinks the mere fact that I clicked on the video means I want to see more videos from the likes of guys like TCD, who share at least part of their audience with even more extreme reactionaries.

They refer to it as a rabbithole for a reason.

PBusted posted...

Misandry is indeed a bad thing and generally visible in various legal policies but depression and suicide among young men are usually due to being unable to live up to the alpha male standards that men created, the idea that men are losers for being unable to get laid.

Victim blaming is counterproductive. No one intentionally creates and controls the culture--not even men.

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No one 'created' things as they are now. Evolution happens on its own.

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Yes. Virtually everyone is guilty of this, regardless of gender.

NoxObscuras posted...

Yep. I've also seen a lot of "American women are bad" tweets coming from those same red pill types. Like this one that was shared on a meme app

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/1/5/AAQgjdAAEtir.jpg

I dont understand this. Progress for women has been a long time coming and these people are happier in places where its back to middle ages for women. Nothing more "beta" than telling the world you just want a submissive woman who'll shut up and do your bidding. These people just want servant fuckdolls. Any semblance of any woman showing a strong personality is a reminder of the shitshow of a person that they are and their crystal egos cant handle that.

Can't you just click "not interested"?

CARRRNE_ASADA posted...

I dont understand this. Progress for women has been a long time coming and these people are happier in places where its back to middle ages for women. Nothing more "beta" than telling the world you just want a submissive woman who'll shut up and do your bidding. These people just want servant fuckdolls. Any semblance of any woman showing a strong personality is a reminder of the shitshow of a person that they are and their crystal egos cant handle that.

Thing is even if he's not interested in all that stuff, generic American white guys tend to get a lot more matches in some other countries. He wouldn't even need to be on the red pill hate train to prefer the foreign experience then.

MrMallard posted...

There's this fucked up pathological undercurrent where users will see a slightly obnoxious woman standing next to an actual fucking murderer and thug, and they'll put the thug on a pedestal while calling the woman a shrill bitch who ruins the show for them. Oh she's upset because her family has to get uprooted to avoid the consequences of her husband's crime? What a lazy, soft, two-timing bitch, she just sits on her ass and benefits from her husband's crime and she has the fucking GALL to complain. Shit like that. The prevalence in YouTube shorts in particular is really fucked up.

Because for these misogynists no matter how bad men may be any time a woman does something even mildly comparative or distasteful she is treated so much worse.

Like, I saw some wrestling video on IG the other day with a female wrestler doing that cringey grandstanding, think she called someone a bitch or something on the mic shortly after doing her walk, and there were all these misogynists in the threads as if the dudes who have been doing this for decades don't also come off extremely cringey and seemingly pathetic.

I remember being a kid and laughing whenever someone would go "CAN YOU SMELL WHAT THE ROCK IS COOKING?!" cause they just sounded so fucking dumb. Yet when a woman tries to act like that, suddenly she's ruining wrestling and a problem that needs to be addressed.

CARRRNE_ASADA posted...

I was thinking of this and the issue is that right wing content tends to be bombastic, sensationalistic with loud personalities behind as we can see with Trump, Alex Jones, Shapiro, Carlson ..etc.

Yeah it's this. The algorithm doesn't care and isn't even aware of what direction a piece of content leans, it's only about engagement. Right-wing stuff gets more comments, likes, etc. which is why it's pushed to the front

andel posted...

you commented to a post talking about toxic redpill shit with "but misandry" and attempted to play the victim immediately. you are the one who is trying to claim men are oppressed unprovoked lol

No surprise. I have them tagged for transphobia and... cop apologetics.

online dating is hard even if youre ahead of the curve on attractiveness. people instantly peg you for a certain type and you have to check every box or you are passed up. youre either the guy who looks like the fuckboi who hurt her before or youre the nerd whos just not attractive.
people dont go out as much anymore, theres less communal spaces to do anything. people in general (not just women but women included) are more standoff ish than ever before in public. theres a weird double standard unspoken larry david esque type rule when its ok to hit on women, and even then it might not be ok, you dont want to be the guy that gets shame blasted on social media just trying to have a basic social interaction.

it kind of makes easy pickings for disillusioned young men.

women seem extremely disillusioned as well but i cant speak for them

andel posted...

you commented to a post talking about toxic redpill shit with "but misandry" and attempted to play the victim immediately. you are the one who is trying to claim men are oppressed unprovoked lol

Yeah, he was a reg on 261 if you don't remember him. Far right extremist.

NoxObscuras posted...

https://twitter.com/leadpacer/status/1681736448918052868?s=20

Shit like this funny because they are like SO close to getting it but then jump off the cliff to absurdity. Reminds me of a dude in Facebook the other day posting a video of an old ass like 70 year old dude struggling to make it up stairs while he was delivering doordash and tried blaming it on bidenomics. Like bro, this is fucking peak capitalism you fucking walnut.

The_Apologist posted...

Victim blaming is counterproductive. No one intentionally creates and controls the culture--not even men.

It literally are primarily male influencers, speakers, and their communities that spread those rhetoric, not female communities. The perps are the men in power who benefit from those traditional values. Of course some women do push those values too but most of it are stereotypes created by the men in power projecting their own beliefs.
The_Apologist posted...

No one 'created' things as they are now. Evolution happens on its own.

You think black people, LGBT, and other minorities facing discrimination is a product of evolution and not created by the majority in power?

PBusted posted...

It literally are primarily male influencers, speakers, and their communities that spread those rhetoric, not female communities.

Because they've been culturally conditioned to do so. In general, people are the products of culture, not the other way around.

PBusted posted...

You think black people, LGBT, and other minorities facing discrimination is a product of evolution and not created by the majority in power?

Yes. The evolution of society created the majority in power as well.

The_Apologist posted...

Because they've been culturally conditioned to do so. In general, people are the products of culture, not the other way around.

And cultures are mostly pushed by the people in power. Even if the cycle started way before any of are alive, there are still distinct people that are the most responsible for pushing it. Your logic is like trying to absolve abusive parents for being abusive even if they were raised that way themselves.

The_Apologist posted...

Yes. The evolution of society created the majority in power as well.

So white supremacism is just evolution to you?