Current Events > How many of you believe the rescue attempt of that titanic submersible will be

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Prismsblade posted...

"Before the sub begins its dive, a support team locks the crew inside by closing the hatch from the outside and sealing it shut with 17 bolts."

Heeeell no x1000.

Right? So even if it's floating on the surface, itself a very unlikely scenario, they're sealed in a water tight tube, probably aware the fresh air they need is right fucking there. All the fuck no.

Euripides posted...

Perhaps Elon Musk can use one of his inventions to rescue them? He can bring Jeff Bezos and Mark Zuckerburg with him to help

Yeah musk did try some inventions before with the guys stuck in the thai cave, but why, bezos and zuck?

CedarPointcp posted...

Yeah musk did try some inventions before with the guys stuck in the thai cave, but why, bezos and zuck?

Because the best solution for saving billionaires with a sub is good billionaires with a sub

Prismsblade posted...

"Before the sub begins its dive, a support team locks the crew inside by closing the hatch from the outside and sealing it shut with 17 bolts."

nonononononononononononono

Starks posted...

Not sure why a tether isn't mandated for these kinds of submersibles.

According to experts a tether adds too much weight and drag.

CedarPointcp posted...

oh, so you kinda like to play it safe, you won't go on roller coasters or thrill rides...etc....? Another thing, if that had been one of your loved ones in the titanic submersible and if they had died, how important would it be for you to get their body back, for closure purposes...etc...Iirc lots of grieving families have varied opinions or different levels of importance on this

So WhAt YoUrE sAyInG iS

Prismsblade posted...

"Before the sub begins its dive, a support team locks the crew inside by closing the hatch from the outside and sealing it shut with 17 bolts."

Heeeell no x1000.

Sick. A sub like that should be an absolute no-go.

Although honestly, I find it much more likely that they're already dead (sorry).

CableZL posted...

nonononononononononononono

why do they have to seal it shut with 17 bolts? can't be open from the inside?

CedarPointcp posted...

why do they have to seal it shut with 17 bolts? can't be open from the inside?

Adding a proper hatch would result in the billionaire having slightly less money to worship

Isnt it part of a package thats around 250k? Thats a hard pass for me bruh

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2 of the 5 arent white though. Shahzada Dawood is Pakistani. He is one that took his son along (so Im assuming hes not white either).

https://twitter.com/DougJBalloon/status/1670954977378877440

Euripides posted...

https://twitter.com/DougJBalloon/status/1670954977378877440

More like 2 oligarchs, the child of one, the owner of the company, and the foremost expert on diving the Titanic.

Two were being paid to be on that sub

CedarPointcp posted...

why do they have to seal it shut with 17 bolts? can't be open from the inside?

Probably has to do with making a pressure resistant as possible

Its possible that the sub could have wandered away from the titanic site.

https://www.newsweek.com/stockton-rush-was-issued-dire-warning-submersible-titanic-expedition-1807992?amp=1

The letter, which was reportedly signed by more than three dozen experts in the field, alleged that Rush was "misleading" his potential customers over the safety of the "experimental" submersible and breaching "an industry-wide professional code of conduct" by refusing tests to meet the safety standards of marine classification societies like DNV or ABS.

"We recommend that at a minimum you institute a prototype testing program that is reviewed and witnessed by DNV-GL (or ABS)," the 2018 letter reads. "While this may demand additional time and expense, it is our unanimous view that this validation process by a third-party is a critical component in the safeguards that protect all submersible occupants."

Rush reportedly called the chairman of the committee after reading and rejecting the letter, explaining that he was ignoring the recommendations of the experts in favor of the company's own safety standards because "industry regulations were stifling innovation."

Everything I learn about this story gets increasingly worse and stupid

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NASA knew about the Challenger space shuttle's O-ring flaw, but hid the information and went forward with the launch. Project Director Allan McDonald tried to prevent the disaster, but ended up having his career and his reputation ruined for trying to do the right thing. NASA definitely has blood on their hands.

Crazy to think they planned to send Carrol Spinney on that shuttle. Fortunately, the potential difficulty of wearing the Big Bird costume on board saved him.

They are detecting life in the search area, theres a a chance we can get a rescue going

https://twitter.com/bnonews/status/1671361952797343745?s=46&t=pGlQy9QzYotcsUa1DNrknw

https://twitter.com/bnonews/status/1671373075944751105?s=46&t=pGlQy9QzYotcsUa1DNrknw

https://twitter.com/uscgnortheast/status/1671372007110320128?s=46&t=pGlQy9QzYotcsUa1DNrknw

Eramir posted...

They are detecting life in the search area, theres a a chance we can get a rescue going

All that's really been confirmed is underwater noises were detected. USS Thresher had "underwater nosies" when it sank below its test depth as well. despite what the first tweet says, they're not indicative of life. All that means is they've detected noise that they are confident is not part of the area background noise. Which could just be from the crushed sub letting out bits of trapped air.

Until they pull a living person out of that sub, I'm not going to believe any one is alive in it. Actual submarines have 100% fatality when things go wrong, I'm not putting any more fait in this glorified water main pipe.

Even if theyre alive theyre saying there isnt any equipment that could be used to bring the sub to surface. Theyd have to create something and improvise.

boomgetchopped3 posted...

Even if theyre alive theyre saying there isnt any equipment that could be used to bring the sub to surface. Theyd have to create something and improvise.

That would be the other thing. People want a feel good story out of this, and the odds of getting it are astronomical.

I'm almost certain the sub imploded. If it didn't they would've just released ballast and floated up to the surface & activated a rescue beacon. The thought that you could lose your life in mere milliseconds by forces largely out of your control is scary to people, so people tend to go with the hypothesizes that hold out hope for rescue and allow for some degree of control over the chaos.

DragonClaw01 posted...

I'm almost certain the sub imploded. If it didn't they would've just released ballast and floated up to the surface & activated a rescue beacon. The thought that you could lose your life in mere milliseconds by forces largely out of your control is scary to people, so people tend to go with the hypothesizes that hold out hope for rescue and allow for some degree of control over the chaos.

I think the same.

Crazyman93 posted...

All that's really been confirmed is underwater noises were detected. USS Thresher had "underwater nosies" when it sank below its test depth as well. despite what the first tweet says, they're not indicative of life. All that means is they've detected noise that they are confident is not part of the area background noise. Which could just be from the crushed sub letting out bits of trapped air.

Until they pull a living person out of that sub, I'm not going to believe any one is alive in it. Actual submarines have 100% fatality when things go wrong, I'm not putting any more fait in this glorified water main pipe.

Deaths do happen but not everyone onboard would necessarily die such as Loshariks crew allegedly.

Granted, Loshariks full capabilities and exact purpose is unknown due to it being top-secret so Russia and certain people involved dont want to talk about it.
https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2019/07/03/russia-survivors-rescued-from-secret-sub-after-blaze/
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/20/world/europe/russian-submarine-fire-losharik.html
https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_submarine_Losharik

Give it a few years and James Cameron will make a movie out of this.

If the sub imploded, would the sub be crushed to the size of a food tin can or will be just remain roughly the same size but wrecked and the people inside turn to mush?

If it gets crushed into really small thing, it'll probably never get found.

If they are still alive down there on the ocean floor, cant imagine wat would be going thru their minds. Pretty sure they have to know their chances of survival are close to 0%. I mean just sitting there waiting to die by suffocation is gotta be a slow agonizing death.

The sub imploding would have atleast be instant, they prob wouldn't have realized they even died.

Crazyman93 posted...

The Navy knows how to search, and they found the Thresher in short order.

That's because the thresher was test diving right below a rescue ship.

Zergrush80 posted...

If they are still alive down there on the ocean floor, cant imagine wat would be going thru their minds. Pretty sure they have to know their chances of survival are close to 0%. I mean just sitting there waiting to die by suffocation is gotta be a slow agonizing death.

The sub imploding would have atleast be instant, they prob wouldn't have realized they even died.

Maybe they're trying to figure out ways to die quicker.

Kazer posted...

Deaths do happen but not everyone onboard would necessarily die such as Loshariks crew allegedly.

Granted, Loshariks full capabilities and exact purpose is unknown due to it being top-secret so Russia and certain people involved dont want to talk about it.
https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2019/07/03/russia-survivors-rescued-from-secret-sub-after-blaze/
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/20/world/europe/russian-submarine-fire-losharik.html
https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_submarine_Losharik

Losharik is a special case. It caught fire during a training exercise where the objective was to practice docking to a mother sub, and it was in coastal waters. And my own reading suggests more than a few crew members did die, but either way, the circumstances of Losharik's accident are totally different than this glorified tin can's.

The real miracle is it survived a previous trip to that depth.

Also, Losharik is a deep diving "underwater engineering sub" (read: spy sub), with a unique internal pressure hull arrangement of joined spheres. It gets its name from the 70s Soviet short film of the same name about a horse made of balls.

Eramir posted...

They are detecting life in the search area, theres a a chance we can get a rescue going

https://twitter.com/bnonews/status/1671361952797343745?s=46&t=pGlQy9QzYotcsUa1DNrknw

https://twitter.com/bnonews/status/1671373075944751105?s=46&t=pGlQy9QzYotcsUa1DNrknw

Make the passengers pay for the rescue if they survive. They are rich and stupid fuck em. The sub owner should get prison for life and his assets auctioned off for money. Give that money to agencies for extra safety inspections and prosecutions of safety violations.

Underwater sounds? Good thing the sub is the only thing in the ocean that could produce noise....

Starks posted...

To expand on the analogy, the Dragon capsule has no physical controls. Just a touchscreen.

The submersible didn't even have that. Just a single button.

Not sure why a tether isn't mandated for these kinds of submersibles.

Because a 3 mile long tether isn't practical.

IceCreamOnStero posted...

Maybe they're trying to figure out ways to die quicker.

The only thing that comes to mind is like strangulation which.....lets be honest, is just a faster suffocation and prob nowhere near as painless. Granted I don't know wat they were allowed to take down with them, but I doubt anything would provide a quick painless death.

CedarPointcp posted...

Yeah musk did try some inventions before with the guys stuck in the thai cave, but why, bezos and zuck?

LOL no he didn't Elon Musk doesn't invent shit.

Who said the sub had a depth rating 45000 feet? I read that in a thread here. Thats asinine to even sat. The sub barely had a rating for 13,000feet.

https://youtu.be/Eq2OH5p2oZw

well this reporter is saying they're sources say the banging they were hearing was identified as SOS (note: still possible they're floating on the surface somewhere). She also says two vehicles certified for 3K meters were sent down but imploded after going past that depth

TonyKojima posted...

LOL no he didn't Elon Musk doesn't invent shit.

Yeah true, but he likes people to believe he's a genius and invents shit

pikachupwnage posted...

Make the passengers pay for the rescue if they survive. They are rich and stupid fuck em. The sub owner should get prison for life and his assets auctioned off for money. Give that money to agencies for extra safety inspections and prosecutions of safety violations.

This is you.
https://youtu.be/t9ioDR0ZqS8

Alexanaxela posted...

https://youtu.be/Eq2OH5p2oZw

well this reporter is saying they're sources say the banging they were hearing was identified as SOS (note: still possible they're floating on the surface somewhere). She also says two vehicles certified for 3K meters were sent down but imploded after going past that depth

Omg thats quite an update. Makes me realize how terrible US reporting is compared to Brits. And why is the coast guard not allowing this private organization to get involved?

they are dead. lets hope they ied quickly and without suffering.

CedarPointcp posted...

Yeah true, but he likes people to believe he's a genius and invents shit

And really a.submarine in a fucking cave? No wonder the rescue guy laughed at him.

Alexanaxela posted...

https://youtu.be/Eq2OH5p2oZw

well this reporter is saying they're sources say the banging they were hearing was identified as SOS (note: still possible they're floating on the surface somewhere). She also says two vehicles certified for 3K meters were sent down but imploded after going past that depth

...- - - ... is a very specific rhythm.

TonyKojima posted...

And really a.submarine in a fucking cave? No wonder the rescue guy laughed at him.

Yeah I remember that and then musk hit back and then the guy sued him, don't remember the outcome of that suit, though. Do most of you side with the rescue guy insulting musk?

CedarPointcp posted...

Yeah I remember that and then musk hit back and then the guy sued him, don't remember the outcome of that suit, though. Do most of you side with the rescue guy insulting musk?

Musk called the guy a pedophile for no reason

Yeah, I side with the guy that called Muskrat stupid

still there shouldn't be any reason for them to be stuck on the ocean floor unless all 7 fail-safes to bring them up to the surface failed. Cause if they're stuck on the ocean floor there's logistically no way to find them and bring them up with the ~day's worth of oxygen left

boomgetchopped3 posted...

Omg thats quite an update. Makes me realize how terrible US reporting is compared to Brits. And why is the coast guard not allowing this private organization to get involved?

Yea that source claimed Biden/US Coast Guard blocked help. Surprised there wasnt much push back since didnt expect to randomly see Biden get blamed. Maybe people didnt click and watch that link.

BlueTigerLion posted...

Yea that source claimed Biden/US Coast Guard blocked help. Surprised there wasnt much push back since didnt expect to randomly see Biden get blamed. Maybe people didnt click and watch that link.

GB News is the UK's equivalent of FOX News, except they have a grand total of like 10 viewers. I'd take anything they say with more than just a pinch of salt.

Cobra1010 posted...

If the sub imploded, would the sub be crushed to the size of a food tin can or will be just remain roughly the same size but wrecked and the people inside turn to mush?

If it gets crushed into really small thing, it'll probably never get found.

It's mechanically similar to squeezing a balloon until it pops.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLf_yD-lpF0