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PenultmateGohan 05/12/23 10:34:24 AM #1: |
Even for its time. Cutscenes and battle characters looked phenomenal. So did all the pre rendered stuff in the environments. But the characters? Looked like fucking play-dough. They had hooves instead of hands. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/7/0/AAfdTjAAEd9G.png And I'm even more baffled that this was done on purpose... For anyone who praises this look, it's obvious that it looked bad because they never made characters look like this again. The only character who looks okay with hooves is Barret and that's because he already has a square head and has a gun arm. Lmao. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TMOG 05/12/23 10:36:33 AM #2: |
I honestly don't know what's more visually jarring: FF6 --> FF7, or FF7 --> FF8 6-7 you go from beautiful end-of-life SNES sprite graphics that honestly still really hold up, to really shitty-looking early PS1 polygons that definitely do not. But FF8 and FF9 are such a leap forward that they look like they're literally on an entirely different system than 7 was. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Psuedo_Audacity 05/12/23 10:38:25 AM #3: |
It was clearly an attempt to replicate the chibi-esque qualities in the 2d avatars in 3d. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Giant_Aspirin 05/12/23 11:18:14 AM #4: |
most early PS1 era 3D games looked bad --- I hope something good happens to you today Playing: Octopath Traveler 2 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FelineCyborg 05/12/23 11:20:46 AM #5: |
Psuedo_Audacity posted... It was clearly an attempt to replicate the chibi-esque qualities in the 2d avatars in 3d. yea this. i kind of like it for some reason even though it can be argued its objectionally shitty looking. might be nostalgia --- "well, yeah, and a lot of minorities go to see minstrel shows, too." - PyroSpoon ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cjsdowg 05/12/23 11:25:54 AM #7: |
I think it was because it was going to be on the N64 before they changed it . --- "Big Sweaty Otis" -Titus O'Neil ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ellis123 05/12/23 11:26:14 AM #8: |
PenultmateGohan posted... And I'm even more baffled that this was done on purpose...It is because it was originally being designed for the N64. When they did the switch to the PS they redid a lot of the stuff that they could (this is most notable in the cutscenes and backgrounds) but the models were stuck the way that they were. --- "A shouted order to do something of dubious morality with an unpredictable outcome? Thweeet!" My FC is in my profile. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PenultmateGohan 05/12/23 11:26:37 AM #9: |
Psuedo_Audacity posted... It was clearly an attempt to replicate the chibi-esque qualities in the 2d avatars in 3d.And it clearly failed because they never did it again. [LFAQs-redacted-quote] Fair enough. I like the way everything looks except the characters. Even the monsters look great. Battle characters look amazing. Thank God the characters didn't have this crap chibi look in combat too. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jiek_Fafn 05/12/23 11:26:58 AM #10: |
Yeah that was weird. I also didn't care for the pre rendered backgrounds. Together they looked awful. As a kid, I thought Wild Arms and Suikoden looked so much better and they came out like right before it. Well, the battle scenes in Wild Arms looked worse, but I liked their overall approach. --- I don't believe in belts. There should be no ranking system for toughness. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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crayola555 05/12/23 11:27:18 AM #11: |
It was early ps1 with polygon graphics. FF7 didn't look bad for it's time, not cutting edge visuals but not "ugly" either. --- 3DS FC: 0619-4850-3479 IGN: AlmaDelita ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PenultmateGohan 05/12/23 11:27:35 AM #12: |
Giant_Aspirin posted... most early PS1 era 3D games looked badAlso fair. FF7 has a great world and great characters so it would have been a shame if it wasn't popular because of the character look. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Revelation34 05/13/23 6:31:45 AM #13: |
Jiek_Fafn posted... Yeah that was weird. I also didn't care for the pre rendered backgrounds. Together they looked awful. Suikoden wasn't exactly 3D though. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms, Switch: SW-1900-5502-7912 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ricemills 05/13/23 6:35:46 AM #14: |
The fuck? FF7 was visually impressive by the time it was released. Compare it to the likes of Suikoden & Wild arms, FFVII was much better looking. And Suikoden & Wild Arms weren't bad either. --- You have the right to remain silent. Anything you posted will be misquoted, then be used against you. http://error1355.com/ce/Ricemills.html ... Copied to Clipboard!
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angeleyes94 05/13/23 8:24:10 AM #15: |
Ricemills posted... The fuck? Zoomies --- You aren't even really reading my posts; you're just staring at your e-mail client and fondly reminiscing about that hobo you stabbed to death. :P ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Revelation34 05/13/23 9:11:43 AM #16: |
Ricemills posted... The fuck? Wat. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms, Switch: SW-1900-5502-7912 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Supaitwo 05/13/23 9:23:50 AM #17: |
cjsdowg posted... I think it was because it was going to be on the N64 before they changed it . N64 was more powerful than the PS1 --- After 25 years he's the very best like no one ever was. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BurmesePenguin 05/13/23 9:25:42 AM #18: |
People always shit on the block graphics, but at least it's an artstyle. FF8 is just fucking doodles. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JuanCarlos1 05/13/23 9:26:48 AM #19: |
cjsdowg posted... I think it was because it was going to be on the N64 before they changed it . This is supposed to be the reason --- Mas dicen, que en las dimensiones de nuestro ser... hay muchos detalles por conocer... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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saspa 05/13/23 9:35:47 AM #21: |
Definitely impressive, we owe early 3d everything we have today. That being sad I loathe pre-rendered backgrounds. The fact that the game was self-aware enough to have a giant hand point at Cloud wherever he was just proves that, I'm thankful they had it though. Still remember being downright stuck in the junkyard or something other place where I had no idea what was meant to be depth perception and where to go. I like the Lego blocky characters now but I won't pretend I didn't complain to my friend when I first played the game and was shocked, especially after expectations being built up when FF 7 had had like 10 years of fanboying prior to finally being able to play it and not to mention the compilation of ff 7 going strong during that time. But truly ps2 was the perfect point of gaming where 3d was perfected and gaming could start experimenting and expanding. Too bad we didn't get 3 FFs back-to-back during that era but oh well. --- http://i.imgur.com/0UFI0T9.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Have_A_Cigar 05/13/23 9:38:37 AM #22: |
I just played through FF7 (OG, not remake) last month - I'm still good with it. It was great for the time. I remember spending my 1997 Christmas break playing through the entire game. I thought it was amazing. Judging 1997's graphics 26 years later is like judging a cell phone from that era through today's lens. Anyone want this Nokia? https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/7/1/AAfKL6AAEeID.png --- And did we tell you the name of the game, boy We call it 'riding the gravy train' ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fluttershy 05/13/23 9:48:53 AM #23: |
That being sad I loathe pre-rendered backgrounds. The fact that the game was self-aware enough to have a giant hand point at Cloud wherever he was just proves that, I'm thankful they had it though. Still remember being downright stuck in the junkyard or something other place where I had no idea what was meant to be depth perception and where to go. it sounds like the screen with the hell houses pre-rendered backgrounds got better, i like the idea of 'em --- https://imgur.com/a7zbPmp.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cobra1010 05/13/23 9:49:51 AM #24: |
I think people accepted it because the game actually has decent character models in the battle screen. --- Load me into the matrix and dont pull the plug ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ricemills 05/13/23 1:08:33 PM #25: |
saspa posted... But truly ps2 was the perfect point of gaming where 3d was perfected and gaming could start experimenting and expanding. Too bad we didn't get 3 FFs back-to-back during that era but oh well. Uh, X, XI, and XII? --- You have the right to remain silent. Anything you posted will be misquoted, then be used against you. http://error1355.com/ce/Ricemills.html ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jennywentnorth8 05/13/23 1:16:41 PM #26: |
As far as PS1 Jrpgs go I was pretty late to the FF7 party as a kid (Already played FF8, Star Ocean, Chrono, Lunar), and really didn't find the graphics all that jarring. I thought their arms were kinda weird but I didn't give much thought past that. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Butterfiles 05/13/23 1:30:34 PM #27: |
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/8/3/6/AAUsi-AADOQk.jpg --- http://www.last.fm/user/PigBun CEO of Antifa ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pikakaeru 05/13/23 1:37:28 PM #28: |
I'm lucky I played it despite it looking like that as a teen. I got used to it, and now I love it for it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MICHALECOLE 05/13/23 1:52:54 PM #29: |
Ff7 looked absolutely amazing in 1998 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Powdered_Toast 05/13/23 2:17:25 PM #30: |
I don't mind the chibi look, but the models themselves are poorly made. The torso/limbs/head are all separate parts, which was common with early 3D, but some of them are really bad. Whenever Heidegger leans back and laughs you can see his torso just split in half. --- Want some rye? 'Course ya do! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PenultmateGohan 05/13/23 4:04:36 PM #31: |
Ricemills posted... The fuck?"The fuck?" my ass. The character models are garbage. Even in the sketches they would have made Cloud all "smurfed out" so even if the game had better graphics, it was a stylistic choice. Not hard to understand. "The fuck?" is what I said when I saw that they all have hooves instead of hands. Looks ridiculous. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BurmesePenguin 05/13/23 4:09:11 PM #32: |
Whose alt is TC? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sheiky-Baby 05/13/23 4:11:04 PM #33: |
It was originally supposed to be a N64 release, so it makes sense --- Once you lose your integrity, everything comes easy afterwards. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Flauros 05/13/23 4:16:47 PM #34: |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBPLaAtq26E Kids in 1997 LITERALLY diarrhea'd themselves over these grafix --- https://i.imgur.com/EX6Md7k.gif https://i.imgur.com/ygAzHKB.mp4 https://i.imgur.com/c84omp7.gif https://i.imgur.com/Hj9RrC6.mp4 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PenultmateGohan 05/13/23 4:17:32 PM #35: |
BurmesePenguin posted... Whose alt is TC?Yours ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MICHALECOLE 05/13/23 4:19:46 PM #36: |
PenultmateGohan posted... "The fuck?" my ass. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TMOG 05/13/23 4:21:08 PM #37: |
Flauros posted... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBPLaAtq26EAnd then, only two years later... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NADJo6wOcmA ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Touch 05/13/23 4:22:05 PM #38: |
TMOG posted... And then, only two years later...Yeah I loved the graphical upgrade from 7 to 8, then a return to classic but modern in 9. --- Honey I'm an open book And you and me are long since overdue ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CFallenWarrior 05/13/23 4:30:40 PM #40: |
BurmesePenguin posted... People always shit on the block graphics, but at least it's an artstyle. FF8 is just fucking doodles.https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/2/3/AAacryAAEeNj.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TMOG 05/13/23 4:33:32 PM #41: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] TC can't be Scotty, they haven't had a massive meltdown about Bulma and started blocking everybody yet ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PenultmateGohan 05/13/23 4:37:05 PM #42: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] You're exposing that you don't know how to read. That's the only issue here. Bad reading comprehension. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BurmesePenguin 05/13/23 4:48:09 PM #44: |
TC definitely writes the way a well known shitposter trying to hide their identity does, even if he's not Scotty. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Alexanaxela 05/13/23 6:51:44 PM #45: |
jump in graphics from ff7 to ff8 in 2 years is amazing --- Tomorrow will be the most beautiful day of Raymond K. Hessel's life. His breakfast will taste better than any meal you and I have ever tasted. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarthDemented 05/13/23 6:56:17 PM #46: |
I always called clouds over world model Popeye strictly because of those arms. --- Paula Wood. My love, my life. 1980-2021 https://store.steampowered.com/wishlist/profiles/76561198210788964/#sort=order ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bloodydeath0 05/13/23 7:03:41 PM #47: |
the graphics were a lot less jarring in context of its time, but i think the cartoony doll-like models were pretty endearing and my 10yr old brain or w/e had no issues filling in the blanks with imagination --- http://i.imgur.com/xHbbYI6.gif http://cdn1.sbnation.com/assets/3386905/G2-Ortiz-Slam.gif Anything too hard in life is not worth doing. -John McGuirk ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Trumble 05/13/23 7:05:28 PM #48: |
Yeah, I didn't find it too bad at all tbh. Not amazing, but it just feels like a stylistic choice more than anything else. --- The only thing we have to fear is Trumble itself. http://error1355.com/ce/Trumble.html ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PenultmateGohan 05/15/23 7:50:41 AM #49: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] It all goes back to your bad reading comprehension. This is what you understood from what was said. However, what you can understand isn't the height of reality but rather it's a lot closer to the floor, for example. 'Even' for its time, refers to the fact that while, yes, it did have "good" graphics for its time, the word "even" is there because, objectively, it still looks like shit to me (character models only, not including battle models or environments) due to the art direction/graphic design for those particular models being bad. The hooves for hands wasn't a technical limitation but rather it was chosen on purpose. And why am I saying the art direction specifically? Because even if this game came out on the PS2, they had every intention of making Cloud look like a deformed Popeye Smurf person as visible in one of the concept sketches for the game. Like another user said, it was done to maintain the 2D style that FF was known for, but to make it 3D. And it looks horrible. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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angeleyes94 05/15/23 10:03:55 AM #50: |
PenultmateGohan posted...
Pffft zoomie SloMo in GamePro Issue 109 from October 1997 gave the game a 5.0 for its graphics, sound, controls, and "fun factor". They praised the game's story, which they felt was above most games. --- You aren't even really reading my posts; you're just staring at your e-mail client and fondly reminiscing about that hobo you stabbed to death. :P ... Copied to Clipboard!
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