Current Events > Another mass shootings :( this time at a child's birthday party.

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https://www.foxnews.com/us/alabama-birthday-party-ends-mass-shooting-leaving-multiple-children-dead

A mass shooting at a teenager's birthday party in Dadeville, Alabama, Saturday evening left multiple children dead, according to reports.

The incident occurred at around 10:30 p.m. local time in the area of E Green Street and N Broadnax Street in Dadeville.

Officials have not revealed the exact number of victims but a photo taken by a witness showed the bodies of at least six teenagers on the ground, according to BNO News

According to the outlet, a witness at the scene said the total number of victims was higher than six, including multiple people who died at the scene. The witness observed white sheets covering the bodies.

A photo posted to Twitter shows multiple families gathered outside a local hospital following the incident.

Kids cant even have birthday parties anymore without worrying about being murdered.

Am I wrong for thinking the witness is kinda sus for taking pics?

USA has some serious issues

party_animal07 posted...

Am I wrong for thinking the witness is kinda sus for taking pics?

There's a lot of people who don't have the inner thought processes to consider that something may not be a good idea. Especially since they're also sharing those pics? Yikes.

remandramdoll posted...

There's a lot of people who don't have the inner thought processes to consider that something may not be a good idea. Especially since they're also sharing those pics? Yikes.

This is 100% gang shit and they are likely desensitized from seeing violence all of the time. I'm from Alabama and Dadeville is a high crime/gang area outside of Montgomery. Small town but there are lot of those outside of Montgomery that I wouldn't even want to pass through at night time

If it's mostly teenagers, sounds like it's some gang bullshit >_>

damn, RIP to the victims...

Lvaneede posted...

USA has some serious issues

they have gone as far as banning Assassination Classroom because they think kids reading it will want to kill their teacher. but the USA will never consider actually solving this mass shooting crisis by implementing gun control

DKBananaSlamma posted...

If it's mostly teenagers, sounds like it's some gang bullshit >_>

Yeah in the picture one of the victims has a Glock with an extended mag laying on top of him

Kloe_Rinz posted...

they have gone as far as banning Assassination Classroom because they think kids reading it will want to kill their teacher.

Hahaha no way lmao

Mew posted...

Hahaha no way lmao

https://www.cbr.com/assassination-classroom-banned-florida-wisconsin/

party_animal07 posted...

Am I wrong for thinking the witness is kinda sus for taking pics?

More people need to see this shit, just like Emmitt Till's body.

Misleading topic. Topic title makes you think of some innocent 6-year-old's party in a cul-de-sac was terrorized by gun violence.

This was gang shit in the inner city.

^ it doesn't mean it's not tragic, and we don't know how many innocent people might have been killed.

AmericaTheBrave posted...

Misleading topic. Topic title makes you think of some innocent 6-year-old's party in a cul-de-sac was terrorized by gun violence.

This was gang shit in the inner city.

shut the fuck up, moron

teenagers are still children and you have no idea what happened

AmericaTheBrave posted...

Misleading topic. Topic title makes you think of some innocent 6-year-old's party in a cul-de-sac was terrorized by gun violence.

This was gang shit in the inner city.

Teenagers are still children.

This is the same attitude that views black teenagers as fully grown adults and "no angel" to justify their being gunned down.

Is that your attitude? Are we going to hear from you next how these kids somehow deserved being gunned down?

Obviously it's still tragic.

Just saying trying to tie this to mass shootings is a bit misleading. Even if it is technically a mass shooting, it's indicative of a different problem.

Stop being offended by what he said and attacking him, at the end he is right. I came in this topic expecting little kids. Sad this happen and still tragic but the thought process was little kids. So don't pretend its the same shit.

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I stand by what I said. People in their 20s shouldn't teach high school. They're not that far removed from teenagers. They might still see teens, especially 16 and 17 year olds as peers, not students, which leads to familiarity, which leads to...

AmericaTheBrave posted...

Just saying trying to tie this to mass shootings is a bit misleading. Even if it is technically a mass shooting, it's indicative of a different problem.

Same problem.

Access to guns is still the issue.

You're the one trying to mislead.

Cheetaluv posted...

Stop being offended by what he said and attacking him

How about you fuck off. You don't get to decide what people get offended by.

Reeeee

Cheetaluv posted...

Stop being offended by what he said and attacking him, at the end he is right. I came in this topic expecting little kids. Sad this happen and still tragic but the thought process was little kids. So don't pretend its the same shit.

it could be an age thing.

as a guy in his 30s, I often refer to teens as "kids". not to be condescending to them, or anything, but because they're still so young, have so much more to live and experience (ideally), and they're not so far off from being children (only a few years between 10 and 15).

Like holy shit what does it say about a person's mind when they're like "oh how disappointing it wasn't an adult killing eight-year-olds instead it was teenagers shooting other teenagers. I can't properly dispense my thoughts and prayers if I'm morally conflicted on how I want to judge these people I've been conditioned to believe are basically bad adults".

Like.

Holy shit.

tbh, I don't recognize some posters, so I try to give them the benefit of a doubt.

Lvaneede posted...

USA has some serious issues

Yeah, but so does a lot of other places too. Still it sucks that you literally cannot go out and enjoy yourself at a big gathering without having to be on watch for some psycho trying to hurt and kill people.

Gosh this topic is dark as fuck

this is very sad

AmericaTheBrave posted...

Misleading topic. Topic title makes you think of some innocent 6-year-old's party in a cul-de-sac was terrorized by gun violence.

This was gang shit in the inner city.

Where did you see this was gang related? The article doesn't state that.
CyricZ posted...

Same problem.

Access to guns is still the issue.

You're the one trying to mislead.

That said, IF this was actually gang related then it's incorrect to treat teenage gang violence and mass shootings such as Uvalde/Buffalo supermarket as one in the same. Yes access to guns is a common factor, but the motives behind the shootings are completely different and require different approaches. Regardless I agree that every situation I mentioned deserves equal sympathy and attention.

AmericaTheBrave posted...

Obviously it's still tragic.

Just saying trying to tie this to mass shootings is a bit misleading. Even if it is technically a mass shooting, it's indicative of a different problem.

Gangland shootings and suicides have been padding stats for gun control since the 1930s.

If it was actually about the safety of kids then they wouldn't include 18 and 19 year olds in the "children gun deaths" and then not include them in "children car accident deaths". Because instead of having the conversation of raising the age to buy a rifle to 21 the conversation would be raising the age of drivers licenses from 16 to at least 18(if it was about safety).

justaguy3492 posted...

Where did you see this was gang related? The article doesn't state that.

It fits the MO to a T. If you live in a city and see gang shit all the time, it's immediately recognizable >_> They just buy illegal guns or steal them, sometimes modify them with extended (and illegal) magazines, and just shoot up other members over some dumb shit. That's just what happens. There's usually at least one of these a week in a city

DKBananaSlamma posted...

It fits the MO to a T. If you live in a city and see gang shit all the time, it's immediately recognizable >_> They just buy illegal guns or steal them, sometimes modify them with extended (and illegal) magazines, and just shoot up other members over some dumb shit. That's just what happens.

Also I'm from Bama and that town is very gang.

Also one of the victims on the pic had a Glock with an extendo. I carry a pistol everywhere just about, but folks toting 30s to a dance party are definitely expecting shit to go down. They aren't exactly the easiest thing to conceal with a 13" long magazine poking out

Yeah, they don't have an extended magazine for "self-defense" lol. They have that because they're planning on using it on someone >_>

justaguy3492 posted...

IF this was actually gang related then it's incorrect to treat teenage gang violence and mass shootings such as Uvalde/Buffalo supermarket as one in the same.

Why not. It's still someone believing they have the right to kill others. Using a readily available, easy to use, and extremely effective means.

When we start treating these scenarios from the focus of what we want to do about them, it's actually extremely clear where the real focus needs to be.

Motives are ultimately irrelevant, because there exist as many motives to harm someone as there are stars in the sky.

It's not about padding statistics it's about children dying to guns.

And the fact that people argue in this direction show what they value more.

DKBananaSlamma posted...

Yeah, they don't have an extended magazine for "self-defense" lol. They have that because they're planning on using it on someone >_>

this isn't necessarily true.

a lot of young people carry guns for protection because they have others who are willing to kill them because of their affiliation (family, neighborhood, gang, etc.), and it makes sense (to them) that their artillery matches their enemy's, if not surpass it.

it reminds me of a Lil Wayne interview, where he was getting ready for school, and his mom saw him packing a gun (that she bought him). she asked him if that's how things were really like, and when he told her yea, she had him drop out of school (he was already a successful rapper by then).

CyricZ posted...

Why not. It's still someone believing they have the right to kill others. Using a readily available, easy to use, and extremely effective means.

When we start treating these scenarios from the focus of what we want to do about them, it's actually extremely clear where the real focus needs to be.

Motives are ultimately irrelevant, because there exist as many motives to harm someone as there are stars in the sky.

It's not about padding statistics it's about children dying to guns.

And the fact that people argue in this direction show what they value more.

I feel like you think I'm saying something I'm not. I teach high school in North Philly, teen gun violence is something I very much care about. I'm not making a claim about padding statistics or any of that garbabe, I'm just saying that the reason why an inner city kid picks up a gun is going to be vastly different than someone looking to harm as many people as possible in a short period of time. I also 100% agree with you that guns are the ultimate problem (if it was up to me the 2nd amendment wouldn't exist), but pragmatically dealing with inner city gun violence requires different methods than stopping the stereotypical "mass shooters".

justaguy3492 posted...

but pragmatically dealing with inner city gun violence requires different methods than stopping the stereotypical "mass shooters".

No it doesn't. It requires the removal of guns first.

If you want to solve every problem that gang violence is associated with then yes, to bring everything to perfect harmony, there are multiple issues to address.

If you want to stop inner city gun violence, you go for the guns. That is easily the most pragmatic action to take.

Good lord, they are saying at least 6 dead, 20 shot and injured.

CyricZ posted...

No it doesn't. It requires the removal of guns first.

If you want to solve every problem that gang violence is associated with then yes, to bring everything to perfect harmony, there are multiple issues to address.

If you want to stop inner city gun violence, you go for the guns. That is easily the most pragmatic action to take.

Do you not know what the word pragmatic means?

justaguy3492 posted...

Do you not know what the word pragmatic means?

Yes.

I think maybe you're the one who doesn't.

CyricZ posted...

Yes.

I think maybe you're the one who doesn't.

So you know what the word means and you think "just take the guns" is the solution that is actually feasible?

justaguy3492 posted...

So you know what the word means and you think "just take the guns" is the solution that is actually feasible?

The fact that this hasn't even entered your head as a pragmatic solution shows where your mind is on the issue.

If you make the presumption that we will never as a society find a way beyond guns, then you've already given up.

No Way To Prevent This, Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens

CyricZ posted...

The fact that this hasn't even entered your head as a pragmatic solution shows where your mind is on the issue.

justaguy3492 posted...

(if it was up to me the 2nd amendment wouldn't exist

It's wild how obtuse you're being. "Just take the guns" is the most ivory towered/sheltered take there is to dealing with this issue. Posting your platitudes on a message board won't do anything but move your nose further into the air.

justaguy3492 posted...

It's wild how obtuse you're being. "Just take the guns" is the most ivory towered/sheltered take there is to dealing with this issue. Posting your platitudes on a message board won't do anything but move your nose further into the air.

No platitude more empty than "if I could go back in time and not have a 2nd amendment".

justaguy3492 posted...

It's wild how obtuse you're being. "Just take the guns" is the most ivory towered/sheltered take there is to dealing with this issue. Posting your platitudes on a message board won't do anything but move your nose further into the air.

at least trying to do something would be better than the nothing we've been doing for 20+ years

justaguy3492 posted...

"Just take the guns" is the most ivory towered/sheltered take there is to dealing with this issue

keep denying statistics. you people will do literally anything about the mass shooting crisis except actually resolve it

AmericaTheBrave posted...

I stand by what I said. People in their 20s shouldn't teach high school. They're not that far removed from teenagers. They might still see teens, especially 16 and 17 year olds as peers, not students, which leads to familiarity, which leads to...

Yeah, nah, mate. Youre just really telling on yourself, here.