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pauIie posted...

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I mean, the third post in this topic is a guy saying the exact same thing...

The Sean Penn thing is a bit weird. I'm not a fan of the guy and think he's a pompous ass.

But wasn't his domestic abuse accusations just from the paparazzi? Like even Madonna said it was all lies. The whole thing came from him assaulting paparazzi photographers.

Like he's a violent shithead towards men but I haven't heard any of his exes coming forward to say he abused them haven't they?

Kastrada posted...

But wasn't his domestic abuse accusations just from the paparazzi? Like even Madonna said it was all lies. The whole thing came from him assaulting paparazzi photographers.

Madonna filed a report that she was beat by him. It is reported that she was beat up when she did it. Then she took it back. So yeah Either Madonna lied about being abused or Penn did do something horrible.

Scotty_Rogers posted...

Did that lying piece of shit really claim he was 17 when he beat Rihanna? He was literally a few months away from turning 20 when he beat her.

He was probably 17 the first time it happened.

SomeLikeItHoth posted...

He was probably 17 the first time it happened.

Got 'em fam.

SomeLikeItHoth posted...

He was probably 17 the first time it happened.

Oh, I'm sure. He's literally been beating women since he was a minor.

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So did he

Uh when was Chris Brown canceled?

And "other people are as bad as me" isn't the argument anyone ever thinks it is.

RchHomieQuanChi posted...

And the thing is Chris is still out here doing shit. It's not like he cleaned up his image.

Like what?

All I ever see is him in that basketball league.

To anyone who thinks Chris Brown wasn't negatively impacted from this scandal.

Rihanna headlined the Super Bowl this year.

Do you think Chris Brown could do that? He definitely isn't anywhere near as big as he would have been had he kept his filthy hands to himself.

ViewtifulGrave posted...

Like what?

All I ever see is him in that basketball league.

Stalking + restraining orders with Tran, homophobic slurs and assault with frank ocean

So I don't really follow him. Why is this coming up? Did he get accused of something else? Or is it because Rihanna is in the spotlight right now?

VampireCoyote posted...

the sad fact is that there are some women out there that dont care about domestic violence

I chock it up to those women being naive and horny. I doubt actual victims of domestic violence would say that shit.

NoxObscuras posted...

So I don't really follow him. Why is this coming up? Did he get accused of something else? Or is it because Rihanna is in the spotlight right now?

I chock it up to those women being naive and horny. I doubt actual victims of domestic violence would say that shit.

He is featured on a song with a mediocre overhyped R&B singer

He's arguably been more successful in the years after the Rihanna incident than he ever was before. Not that he couldn't be bigger if it had never happened, but clearly he has not been cancelled

https://graziamagazine.com/articles/chris-brown-recounts-assaulting-rihanna/

if you need a refresh of what happened.

hes a piece of shit.

let's not pretend CB wasn't negatively affected by this, he absolutely was in the can for years and his album sales had tanked. Somewhere along the line though he made a small rebound but he's NOWHERE near where he would be if he was clean. He is a trashy human being, but he did get blackballed and him deflecting ot other people still proves he has a LOT of growing up to do

Akagami_Shanks posted...

let's not pretend CB wasn't negatively affected by this, he absolutely was in the can for years and his album sales had tanked. Somewhere along the line though he made a small rebound but he's NOWHERE near where he would be if he was clean. He is a trashy human being, but he did get blackballed and him deflecting ot other people still proves he has a LOT of growing up to do

Oh his sales absolutely tanked. His album in 2007 sold over 4.5 million copies. His album in 2009 (the year he abused Rihanna) sold 500k copies. He bounced back a little bit with his 2011 album, but a lot of his albums have barely passed 1 million copies now.

CruelBuffalo posted...

He is featured on a song with a mediocre overhyped R&B singer

*googles*
Wait, are you talking about Chloe Bailey? How is she overhyped? lol

NoxObscuras posted...

Oh his sales absolutely tanked. His album in 2007 sold over 4.5 million copies. His album in 2009 (the year he abused Rihanna) sold 500k copies. He bounced back a little bit with his 2011 album, but a lot of his albums have barely passed 1 million copies now.

barely anyone sells million+ copies now

hes continued to rack up top 10 billboard hits basically the entire time since then

he got nominated for Grammys for that 2009 album ffs

he has suffered extremely little consequence other than people knowing hes a piece of shit (but listening to his music anyway)

emblem-man posted...

Chris brown didn't get cancelled though, so I'm confused. None of them dod

Charlie Sheen got kicked out of two and a half men.

NoxObscuras posted...

Oh his sales absolutely tanked. His album in 2007 sold over 4.5 million copies. His album in 2009 (the year he abused Rihanna) sold 500k copies. He bounced back a little bit with his 2011 album, but a lot of his albums have barely passed 1 million copies now.

*googles*
Wait, are you talking about Chloe Bailey? How is she overhyped? lol

Every single is "this is the one that will make her a star" with her lol. She is Normani 2.0 except Normani was part of a successful group and had her own successful single (well two songs that one with Sam Smith too). Chloe had one kinda hot song with her sister (that let's be honest was also overhyped just because Beyonce breathed in their direction) and that's it

Also, no one has stopped working with him. Hes had a guest appearance with basically every rapper of note since 2010

TheGoldenEel posted...

barely anyone sells million+ copies now

Adele
Taylor Swift
Justin Bieber
Rihanna
Beyonce
Harry Styles
The Weeknd
Etc

TheGoldenEel posted...

hes continued to rack up top 10 billboard hits basically the entire time since then

@TheGoldenEel LOL this is false.

he's only had a few top 10 hits since 2009

VampireCoyote posted...

the sad fact is that there are some women out there that dont care about domestic violence

Why is that surprising?

You have people in this very topic saying the same about Roberts.

jeffhardyb0yz posted...

Not that Im defending brown but hes right. White celebs get away with this shit all the time.

I mean.... HE got away with it too.

Scotty_Rogers posted...

Adele
Taylor Swift
Justin Bieber
Rihanna
Beyonce
Harry Styles
The Weeknd
Etc

@TheGoldenEel LOL this is false.

he's only had a few top 10 hits since 2009

How many pop singers out there are still hitting the top ten 15+ years into their career

1. Run It (2005): No.1
2. Yo (Excuse Me Miss) (2005): No.7
3. Say Goodbye (2006): No.10
4. Kiss Kiss (2007): No.1
5. With You (2007): No.2
6. No Air (2008): No.3
7. Forever (2008): No.2

His career had been going for only 4 years when the scandal broke; by then, he already had 7 top ten hits. Then he beats Rihanna in 2009 and look what follows:

1. Look at Me Now (2011): No.6
2. Turn Up the Music (2012): No.10
3. Don't Wake Me Up (2012): No.10
4. Loyal (2014): No.9
5. No Guidance (2019): No.5
6. Go Crazy (2020): No.3

In the 14 years since the scandal, he's only had 6.

"Career didn't tank" LMAO that's fucking cap

Let's look at Rihanna's career in the 14 years post the scandal.

1. Russian Roulette (2009): No.9
2. Hard (2009): No.8
3. Rude Boy (2010): No.1
4. Only Girl in the World (2010): No.1
5. What's My Name (2010): No.1
6. S&M (2011): No.1
7. Cheers Drinks to That (2011): No.7
8. We Found Love (2011): No.1
9. Where Have You Been (2012): No.5
10. Diamonds (2012): No.1
11. Stay (2013): No.3
12. FourFiveSeconds (2015): No.4
13. Work (2016): No.1
14. Needed Me (2016): No.7
15. This Is What You Came For (2016): No.3
16. Love on the Brain (2016): No.5
17. Lift Me Up (2022): No.2

Another thing worth putting into perspective; Rihanna has only released four albums following the scandal. Chris Brown has released seven.

TheGoldenEel posted...

barely anyone sells million+ copies now

hes continued to rack up top 10 billboard hits basically the entire time since then

he got nominated for Grammys for that 2009 album ffs

he has suffered extremely little consequence other than people knowing hes a piece of shit (but listening to his music anyway)

All I'm saying is that while he's still successful, it's pretty clear that the DV did hurt his success. Regardless of his 2009 album being nominated for a Grammy, stores were literally refusing to sell his album and he was pissed on Twitter:

the[y] didnt even have my album in the back not on shelves, saw for myself, he wrote in a series of tweets over the weekend. im tired of this s. major stores r blackballing my cd. not stockin the shelves and lying to costumers. what the f do i gotta do.

https://ew.com/article/2009/12/14/chris-brown-twitter-rage-graffiti/

I still think he's a terrible person, but I don't think it's accurate to say he was completely unaffected.

Scotty_Rogers posted...

1. Run It (2005): No.1
2. Yo (Excuse Me Miss) (2005): No.7
3. Say Goodbye (2006): No.10
4. Kiss Kiss (2007): No.1
5. With You (2007): No.2
6. No Air (2008): No.3
7. Forever (2008): No.2
His career had been going for only 4 years when the scandal broke; by then, he already had 7 top ten hits. Then he beats Rihanna in 2009 and look what follows:

1. Look at Me Now (2011): No.6
2. Turn Up the Music (2012): No.10
3. Don't Wake Me Up (2012): No.10
4. Loyal (2014): No.9
5. No Guidance (2019): No.5
6. Go Crazy (2020): No.3

In the 14 years since the scandal, he's only had 6.

"Career didn't tank" LMAO that's fucking cap

Damn he went from being a successful pop star to being a successful pop star

The irony of using a term like defending yourself against being a perpetrator of domestic abuse. Fuck Chris Brown.

Should note that pop stars careers tank all the time

Katy Perry went from number one hit after number one hit to not even sniffing the top 40, without beating the shit out of anyone

that Chris Brown was able to notch a #3 hit fifteen years after his debut is extreme success in the pop music world

Penn and Sheen both faced a lot of consequences to their careers and for as I understand, Robert's and Cage were not really big issues

Alucard188 posted...

The irony of using a term like defending yourself against being a perpetrator of domestic abuse. Fuck ChrisRobert's.

Seriously, fuck that motherfucker.

seems like Chris still hasnt learned from that experience and continues to be an even bigger prick than he is.

its pretty baffling how he still has ride or die fans to this day... smh

Axiom posted...

I don't even know who the girl is outside of playing the typical bitch character is AHS

She is Julia Robert's niece

Scotty_Rogers posted...

1. Run It (2005): No.1
2. Yo (Excuse Me Miss) (2005): No.7
3. Say Goodbye (2006): No.10
4. Kiss Kiss (2007): No.1
5. With You (2007): No.2
6. No Air (2008): No.3
7. Forever (2008): No.2
His career had been going for only 4 years when the scandal broke; by then, he already had 7 top ten hits. Then he beats Rihanna in 2009 and look what follows:

1. Look at Me Now (2011): No.6
2. Turn Up the Music (2012): No.10
3. Don't Wake Me Up (2012): No.10
4. Loyal (2014): No.9
5. No Guidance (2019): No.5
6. Go Crazy (2020): No.3

In the 14 years since the scandal, he's only had 6.

"Career didn't tank" LMAO that's fucking cap

did you honestly think this was some kind of gotcha?

The Chris Brown situation is weird, and I understand his frustration. Hes not saying hes wrong and doesnt deserve punishment. Hes point is at what point is he allowed growth and a second chance.

He looks around and people who have done worse than him, have been forgiven and allowed grace that he wasnt and thats definitely frustrating

Like Tory Lanez literally shot a woman, and he was given more grace than Chris was until the court verdict.

it took a decade of Trey songz SAing people for people to even look at him differently

Solange assaulted Jay on camera and was cheered for it.

Johnny depp.

they all got more grace than him.

Blueface a known woman beater said it himself, its cause of Who he Beat.

chrono625 posted...

did you honestly think this was some kind of gotcha?

Thats still a successful career, but that like going from being Micheal Jordan to being DeMar DeRozan

gamepimp12 posted...

The Chris Brown situation is weird, and I understand his frustration. Hes not saying hes wrong and doesnt deserve punishment. Hes point is at what point is he allowed growth and a second chance.

He looks around and people who have done worse than him, have been forgiven and allowed grace that he wasnt and thats definitely frustrating

Like Tory Lanez literally shot a woman, and he was given more grace than Chris was until the court verdict.

it took a decade of Trey songz SAing people for people to even look at him differently

Solange assaulted Jay on camera and was cheered for it.

Johnny depp.

they all got more grace than him.

Blueface a known woman beater said it himself, its cause of Who he Beat.

It wasnt just the one incident though, was it?

he has remained in headlines to this day for violence against women

Fuck Chris Brown for claiming this was a mistake he made as a youth. This is a dangerous man

"Brown was driving a vehicle with Robyn F. as the front passenger on an unknown street in Los Angeles. Robyn F. picked up Brown's cellular phone and observed a three-page text message from a woman who Brown had a previous sexual relationship with.
"A verbal argument ensued and Brown pulled the vehicle over on an unknown street, reached over Robyn F. with his right hand, opened the car door and attempted to force her out. Brown was unable to force Robyn F. out of the vehicle because she was wearing a seat belt. When he could not force her to exit, he took his right hand and shoved her head against he passenger window of the vehicle, causing an approximate one-inch raised circular contusion.
"Robyn F. turned to face Brown and he punched her in the left eye with his right hand. He then drove away in the vehicle and continued to punch her in the face with his right hand while steering the vehicle with his left hand. The assault caused Robyn F.'s mouth to fill with blood and blood to splatter all over her clothing and the interior of the vehicle.
"Brown looked at Robyn F. and stated, 'I'm going to beat the sh-- out of you when we get home! You wait and see!' "
The detective said "Robyn F." then used her cell phone to call her personal assistant Jennifer Rosales, who did not answer.
"Robyn F. pretended to talk to her and stated, 'I'm on my way home. Make sure the police are there when I get there.'
"After Robyn F. faked the call, Brown looked at her and stated, 'You just did the stupidest thing ever! Now I'm really going to kill you!'
"Brown resumed punching Robyn F. and she interlocked her fingers behind her head and brought her elbows forward to protect her face. She then bent over at the waist, placing her elbows and face near her lap in [an] attempt to protect her face and head from the barrage of punches being levied upon her by Brown.
"Brown continued to punch Robyn F. on her left arm and hand, causing her to suffer a contusion on her left triceps (sic) that was approximately two inches in diameter and numerous contusions on her left hand.
"Robyn F. then attempted to send a text message to her other personal assistant, Melissa Ford. Brown snatched the cellular telephone out of her hand and threw it out of the window onto an unknown street.
"Brown continued driving and Robyn F. observed his cellular telephone sitting in his lap. She picked up the cellular telephone with her left hand and before she could make a call he placed her in a head lock with his right hand and continued to drive the vehicle with his left hand.
"Brown pulled Robyn F. close to him and bit her on her left ear. She was able to feel the vehicle swerving from right to left as Brown sped away. He stopped the vehicle in front of 333 North June Street and Robyn F. turned off the car, removed the key from the ignition and sat on it.
"Brown did not know what she did with the key and began punching her in the face and arms. He then placed her in a head lock positioning the front of her throat between his bicep and forearm. Brown began applying pressure to Robyn F.'s left and right carotid arteries, causing her to be unable to breathe and she began to lose consciousness.
"She reached up with her left hand and began attempting to gouge his eyes in an attempt to free herself. Brown bit her left ring and middle fingers and then released her. While Brown continued to punch her, she turned around and placed her back against the passenger door. She brought her knees to her chest, placed her feet against Brown's body and began pushing him away. Brown continued to punch her on the legs and feet, causing several contusions.
"Robyn F. began screaming for help and Brown exited the vehicle and walked away. A resident in the neighborhood heard Robyn F.'s plea for help and called 911, causing a police response. An investigation was conducted and Robyn F. was issued a Domestic Violence Emergency Protective Order."

SuperExcitebike posted...

Fuck Chris Brown for claiming this was a mistake he made as a youth. This is a dangerous man

"Brown was driving a vehicle with Robyn F. as the front passenger on an unknown street in Los Angeles. Robyn F. picked up Brown's cellular phone and observed a three-page text message from a woman who Brown had a previous sexual relationship with.
"A verbal argument ensued and Brown pulled the vehicle over on an unknown street, reached over Robyn F. with his right hand, opened the car door and attempted to force her out. Brown was unable to force Robyn F. out of the vehicle because she was wearing a seat belt. When he could not force her to exit, he took his right hand and shoved her head against he passenger window of the vehicle, causing an approximate one-inch raised circular contusion.
"Robyn F. turned to face Brown and he punched her in the left eye with his right hand. He then drove away in the vehicle and continued to punch her in the face with his right hand while steering the vehicle with his left hand. The assault caused Robyn F.'s mouth to fill with blood and blood to splatter all over her clothing and the interior of the vehicle.
"Brown looked at Robyn F. and stated, 'I'm going to beat the sh-- out of you when we get home! You wait and see!' "
The detective said "Robyn F." then used her cell phone to call her personal assistant Jennifer Rosales, who did not answer.
"Robyn F. pretended to talk to her and stated, 'I'm on my way home. Make sure the police are there when I get there.'
"After Robyn F. faked the call, Brown looked at her and stated, 'You just did the stupidest thing ever! Now I'm really going to kill you!'
"Brown resumed punching Robyn F. and she interlocked her fingers behind her head and brought her elbows forward to protect her face. She then bent over at the waist, placing her elbows and face near her lap in [an] attempt to protect her face and head from the barrage of punches being levied upon her by Brown.
"Brown continued to punch Robyn F. on her left arm and hand, causing her to suffer a contusion on her left triceps (sic) that was approximately two inches in diameter and numerous contusions on her left hand.
"Robyn F. then attempted to send a text message to her other personal assistant, Melissa Ford. Brown snatched the cellular telephone out of her hand and threw it out of the window onto an unknown street.
"Brown continued driving and Robyn F. observed his cellular telephone sitting in his lap. She picked up the cellular telephone with her left hand and before she could make a call he placed her in a head lock with his right hand and continued to drive the vehicle with his left hand.
"Brown pulled Robyn F. close to him and bit her on her left ear. She was able to feel the vehicle swerving from right to left as Brown sped away. He stopped the vehicle in front of 333 North June Street and Robyn F. turned off the car, removed the key from the ignition and sat on it.
"Brown did not know what she did with the key and began punching her in the face and arms. He then placed her in a head lock positioning the front of her throat between his bicep and forearm. Brown began applying pressure to Robyn F.'s left and right carotid arteries, causing her to be unable to breathe and she began to lose consciousness.
"She reached up with her left hand and began attempting to gouge his eyes in an attempt to free herself. Brown bit her left ring and middle fingers and then released her. While Brown continued to punch her, she turned around and placed her back against the passenger door. She brought her knees to her chest, placed her feet against Brown's body and began pushing him away. Brown continued to punch her on the legs and feet, causing several contusions.
"Robyn F. began screaming for help and Brown exited the vehicle and walked away. A resident in the neighborhood heard Robyn F.'s plea for help and called 911, causing a police response. An investigation was conducted and Robyn F. was issued a Domestic Violence Emergency Protective Order."

"I was only 17 when I did this" He was nearly 20!

You'd think he'd be charged as a minor if he was only 17.

TheGoldenEel posted...

It wasnt just the one incident though, was it?

he has remained in headlines to this day for violence against women

I cant find the exact date. But unless Im forgetting something the last set of allegations was with kurrache someone who he hasnt dated since like 2017.

I personally do think Chris has had alot of remorse about the situation(s) especially after he became a father.

I don't even care if he's right. Saying people shouldn't be hard on you for beating your gf/wife because others get away with it is ALMOST as bad as beating your gf.

Just try not beating your significant other instead of this shit.

TheGoldenEel posted...

Damn he went from being a successful pop star to being a successful pop star

chrono625 posted...

did you honestly think this was some kind of gotcha?

@TheGoldenEel
@chrono625 He clearly went from a highly successful pop star to a much less successful one. LOL @ not understanding what a downward trajectory is.

6 top ten hits in the span of 14 years across eight albums is pathetic, especially when he had 7 top ten hits in the span of only 4 years across two albums before. His career sharply declined as a result of what he did.

Meanwhile Rihanna went on to have 17 top ten hits across just four albums in the 14 years since the scandal. She only went up and he went down.

i know this isn't related directly to the subject at hand but most recently, he had a meltie over losing Grammy for best rn'b album to Robert Glasper.

i actually gave both records and listen and to nobody's surprise, Glasper's was way better. it's almost as if, you know, he actually puts love and care in his music instead of regurgitating the same flavorless commercialized ass crap over and over...

oh yeah, and btw: nobody needs those fucking 3 hour Chris Brown albums! fuck outta here with that shit! lol

TheGoldenEel posted...

Should note that pop stars careers tank all the time

Not to the extent of Chris Brown's lol.

He and Rihanna were just about equally popular before the scandal. After the scandal? There's no comparison between them. You'll never see him headlining a Super Bowl like she did this year.

Scotty_Rogers posted...

@TheGoldenEel
@chrono625 He clearly went from a highly successful pop star to a much less successful one. LOL @ not understanding what a downward trajectory is.

6 top ten hits in the span of 14 years across eight albums is pathetic, especially when he had 7 top ten hits in the span of only 4 years across two albums before. His career sharply declined as a result of what he did.

Meanwhile Rihanna went on to have 17 top ten hits across just four albums in the 14 years since the scandal. Had Chris Brown not beat the shit out of her, his career could have been just as big as hers.

do we need to go through all the artists who had multiple hits in the 2000s and went on to have zero hits in the 2010s for you to see that a pop star fading isnt unusual in the slightest

His career followed an extremely normal trajectory and in fact he remains doing much better than the vast majority of pop stars of all time

he should be in prison

TheGoldenEel posted...

do we need to go through all the artists who had multiple hits in the 2000s and went on to have zero hits in the 2010s for you to see that a pop star fading isnt unusual in the slightest

No one fades after just 4 years like Chris Brown did LOL.

TheGoldenEel posted...

His career followed an extremely normal trajectory

LOL literally none of his albums after the scandal have sold over 1 million in America. Whereas his first two both sold over 2 million individually. That's not normal trajectory at all.

TheGoldenEel posted...

he remains doing much better than the vast majority of pop stars of all time

Not Rihanna.
Not Adele.
Not Beyonce.
Not Katy Perry.
Not Miley Cyrus.
Not Justin Bieber.
Not The Weeknd.
Not Harry Styles.

"Vast majority" LOL he literally went from being one of the biggest to average.

Damn, Scotty's right. More careers should be ruined like Chris Brown's. In fact, Chris Brown's life clearly wasn't ruined enough since he's still somewhat successful and still a fucking loser.