Poll of the Day > Ukraine filed for NATO membership

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Jen0125
09/30/22 6:30:17 PM
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/ukraine-applies-fast-track-nato-140158774.html
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hypnox
09/30/22 6:31:05 PM
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Better late than never. But pretty sure they would be rejected since they are kinda already at war.

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Jen0125
09/30/22 6:32:13 PM
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hypnox posted...
Better late than never. But pretty sure they would be rejected since they are kinda already at war.

That's what I thought. They can't be accepted while involved in active conflict is what I understood.
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papercup
09/30/22 6:32:32 PM
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Unfortunately, they are not likely to be accepted in. Every member state needs to agree, and Hungary and Turkey will not agree.

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papercup
09/30/22 6:43:46 PM
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Also, Reddit is fucking nuts. I pointed it out to them that this is more or less a symbolic act against Russia, and I got ganged up on by people telling me I don't know what I'm talking about, and they're going to be full members by next week, there's going to be a no fly zone over Ukraine tonight, all this other bullshit that doesn't make sense if you think about it for 2 seconds.

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Gaawa_chan
09/30/22 6:47:18 PM
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Yeah, NATO is not going to let them in, at least not until the war is over.

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Jen0125
09/30/22 6:50:31 PM
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papercup posted...
Also, Reddit is fucking nuts. I pointed it out to them that this is more or less a symbolic act against Russia, and I got ganged up on by people telling me I don't know what I'm talking about, and they're going to be full members by next week, there's going to be a no fly zone over Ukraine tonight, all this other bullshit that doesn't make sense if you think about it for 2 seconds.

Yeah, seems like it's symbolic and for the optics just to say hey we're with the west. We're not aligned with Russia at all. We don't desire to be part of Russia.
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NeoSioType
09/30/22 7:19:35 PM
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Am I the only one wondering if we're all going to be dead next year?
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papercup
09/30/22 7:34:05 PM
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NeoSioType posted...
Am I the only one wondering if we're all going to be dead next year?

Don't worry, we won't. It's extremely unlikely that Putin will opt to use a nuclear weapon in Ukraine, it's far too risky, serves exactly no benefit for him, and would lead to his death and whatever would remain of Russia after the war would be split between the US, Europe, and China. Russia as a country would be a thing of the past. And the US is having private discussions with Russia, and is explaining all of this to them in far more detail.

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papercup
09/30/22 7:49:01 PM
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Also Russian diplomat Dmitry Peskov reiterated today that specifically what Russian military doctrine says about the use of nuclear weapons is they are only to be used as a last ditch effort in a defensive war, and that Russia really can't make the argument that they are in any way, shape or form in a defensive war. Essentially, Peskov says Putin and Medvedev are full of shit and to ignore them.

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hypnox
09/30/22 7:50:22 PM
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papercup posted...
Also Russian diplomat Dmitry Peskov reiterated today that specifically what Russian military doctrine says about the use of nuclear weapons is they are only to be used as a last ditch effort in a defensive war, and that Russia really can't make the argument that they are in any way, shape or form in a defensive war. Essentially, Peskov says Putin and Medvedev are full of shit and to ignore them.

Yeah, I mean crazy people follow the rules all the time.

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SinisterSlay
09/30/22 8:00:12 PM
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papercup posted...
Don't worry, we won't. It's extremely unlikely that Putin will opt to use a nuclear weapon in Ukraine, it's far too risky, serves exactly no benefit for him, and would lead to his death and whatever would remain of Russia after the war would be split between the US, Europe, and China. Russia as a country would be a thing of the past. And the US is having private discussions with Russia, and is explaining all of this to them in far more detail.
Also keep in mind our own governments lie to us about this stuff so it never gets to Russia.

But think about it, we have had how many years of nuclear weapons? I can guarantee you the US has a defense for them that hasn't been made public.
I would not be surprised if they wanted Putin to fire first just so China can't claim the west fired first so easily. The west effortlessly shoots down Putin's 70 year old missile and sends a few hundred of their own.

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Sahuagin
09/30/22 8:16:50 PM
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SinisterSlay posted...
The west effortlessly shoots down Putin's 70 year old missile and sends a few hundred of their own.
that is not a desirable scenario

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Lokarin
09/30/22 8:26:44 PM
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the rate Ukraine is going maybe NATO should file for Ukraine membership

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VampireCoyote
09/30/22 8:48:03 PM
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NATO sounds kinda stuck up tbh

just let them in, theyre trying their best

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agesboy
09/30/22 9:35:25 PM
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papercup posted...
Also, Reddit is fucking nuts. I pointed it out to them that this is more or less a symbolic act against Russia, and I got ganged up on by people telling me I don't know what I'm talking about, and they're going to be full members by next week, there's going to be a no fly zone over Ukraine tonight, all this other bullshit that doesn't make sense if you think about it for 2 seconds.
that's just kinda how reddit works, reasonable interpretations get shot down in bad faith

ukraine is currently massively winning the propaganda war (and i hope they do win the propaganda war), but they are still engaging in propaganda. feels like pointing that out on reddit is kicking a beehive

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Revelation34
10/01/22 12:12:23 AM
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agesboy posted...

that's just kinda how reddit works, reasonable interpretations get shot down in bad faith

ukraine is currently massively winning the propaganda war (and i hope they do win the propaganda war), but they are still engaging in propaganda. feels like pointing that out on reddit is kicking a beehive


How is Ukraine engaging in propaganda?

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Cacciato
10/01/22 12:13:27 AM
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Just shut the fuck up about things you dont understand, Rev.
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Revelation34
10/01/22 12:17:01 AM
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Cacciato posted...
Just shut the fuck up about things you dont understand, Rev.


Why are you supporting Russia?

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Cacciato
10/01/22 12:27:32 AM
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Revelation34 posted...
Why are you supporting Russia?
Again:

Cacciato posted...
Just shut the fuck up about things you dont understand, Rev.

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Revelation34
10/01/22 12:29:52 AM
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So in other words you support murderous Russians. No wonder you got dishonorably discharged.

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FatalAccident
10/01/22 12:46:51 AM
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papercup posted...
ever would remain of Russia after the war would be split between the US, Europe, and China. Russia as a country would be a thing of the past. And the US is having private discussions with Russia, and is explaining all of this to them in far more detail.
bro how could you possibly know any of this lol

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Cacciato
10/01/22 12:48:19 AM
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Revelation34 posted...
So in other words you support murderous Russians. No wonder you got dishonorably discharged.
Lmfao. Dude, just go back to trying to finish that police shooting article. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/3/0/AALv4zAADu7G.jpg
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FatalAccident
10/01/22 12:55:03 AM
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Cacciato posted...
Just shut the fuck up about things you dont understand, Rev.
"how is ukraine engaging in propaganda" seems a fairly innocuous question in response to someone saying ukraine is pumping out their propaganda tbf

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Cacciato
10/01/22 12:57:11 AM
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FatalAccident posted...
"how is ukraine engaging in propaganda" seems a fairly innocuous question in response to someone saying ukraine is pumping out their propaganda tbf
It is, until you see the guy writing it is the guy that cant even read an article, let alone do his own research. specifically post #47

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/3-poll-of-the-day/80180881
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papercup
10/01/22 1:08:06 AM
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FatalAccident posted...
bro how could you possibly know any of this lol
Because setting the precedent that nuclear weapons are okay to use isnt something anyone wants, so the first country that goes ahead with it will have to be made an example of. Also we already know that the DOD is communicating with Russia what the response will be if they use one.

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SoreChasm
10/01/22 10:32:33 AM
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Cacciato posted...
Lmfao. Dude, just go back to trying to finish that police shooting article. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/3/0/AALv4zAADu7G.jpg
Any response, @Revelation34?

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Revelation34
10/01/22 11:05:48 AM
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SoreChasm posted...

Any response, @Revelation34?


Not his paper.

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adjl
10/01/22 11:09:32 AM
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Cacciato posted...
It is, until you see the guy writing it is the guy that cant even read an article, let alone do his own research. specifically post #47

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/3-poll-of-the-day/80180881

It's still a pretty innocuous question, and answering it would only serve to further everyone's understanding of the discussion at hand. That's unilaterally a good thing, so I'm not sure why you're letting your angry grudge against him for being an annoying weirdo most of the time get in the way of that.

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SoreChasm
10/01/22 11:39:49 AM
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Revelation34 posted...
Not his paper.
Citation needed.
adjl posted...
an annoying weirdo most of the time
lol

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ZangsBeard
10/01/22 11:59:27 AM
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adjl posted...
It's still a pretty innocuous question, and answering it would only serve to further everyone's understanding of the discussion at hand. That's unilaterally a good thing, so I'm not sure why you're letting your angry grudge against him for being an annoying weirdo most of the time get in the way of that.

Except hes not an annoying weirdo, he intentionally gets things wrong to start arguments and will never admit to being incorrect in the face of absolute evidence. Feeding him is feeding the trolling, not innocuously answering him.

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agesboy
10/01/22 12:18:26 PM
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adjl posted...
It's still a pretty innocuous question, and answering it would only serve to further everyone's understanding of the discussion at hand. That's unilaterally a good thing, so I'm not sure why you're letting your angry grudge against him for being an annoying weirdo most of the time get in the way of that.
to be fair, given his next two responses after that, he is absolutely not asking in good faith

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adjl
10/01/22 12:20:11 PM
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ZangsBeard posted...
Feeding him is feeding the trolling, not innocuously answering him.

It's also contributing meaningfully to the discussion. Letting some nebulous concept of "feeding the troll" get in the way of that is just silly, and in fact does more to let trolls win than any amount of "feeding" ever could.

If a troll asks a question that can be answered in the form of a good faith contribution to the discussion, answer it as though it genuinely is. If they try to troll further from the answer you give, ignore them. It's quite simple.

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ZangsBeard
10/01/22 12:23:51 PM
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adjl posted...
It's also contributing meaningfully to the discussion.

agesboy posted...
to be fair, given his next two responses after that, he is absolutely not asking in good faith


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adjl
10/01/22 12:39:04 PM
#35:


adjl posted...
If a troll asks a question that can be answered in the form of a good faith contribution to the discussion, answer it as though it genuinely is.

Think in terms of what you contribute to the discussion, not in terms of what somebody else doesn't.

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ZangsBeard
10/01/22 12:42:01 PM
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adjl posted...
Think in terms of what you contribute to the discussion, not in terms of what somebody else doesn't.

Good for you. You can stop now.

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adjl
10/01/22 12:44:40 PM
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Stop what, contributing meaningfully to this new discussion about how best to approach trolls? I shall do so once I feel I no longer have anything meaningful to contribute, which will really only happen once I'm satisfied that everyone involved can get over themselves to enough of an extent to not feel the need to call trolls out at the expense of the real discussion.

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ZangsBeard
10/01/22 12:45:45 PM
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Blah blah blah.

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adjl
10/01/22 12:49:20 PM
#39:


See, this is an example of a exhausting all potential good faith discussion potential the troll has brought to the table. At this point, rather than derailing the discussion to continue feeding the troll, it's best to ignore them and continue the discussion without acknowledging their interruptions.

Any questions?

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ZangsBeard
10/01/22 12:50:43 PM
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I'm sure you think you have a good point, but you're literally doing nothing for this topic, let alone having a meaningful discussion. I literally won't read your tripe.

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agesboy
10/01/22 12:59:04 PM
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ZangsBeard posted...
I'm sure you think you have a good point, but you're literally doing nothing for this topic, let alone having a meaningful discussion. I literally won't read your tripe.
do you uh, think you're doing anything better here

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ZangsBeard
10/01/22 1:04:21 PM
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agesboy posted...
do you uh, think you're doing anything better here

Where did I say I was? I did tell him to stop.

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Lokarin
10/01/22 2:55:43 PM
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Side note:

Russia had to withdraw because Ukraine encircled a major city

AT THE SAME TIME - Putin declared in a meeting that he just annexed 4 Ukraine territories.

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Umm... Putin is high on copium, bruh

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Revelation34
10/01/22 11:26:31 PM
#45:


agesboy posted...

to be fair, given his next two responses after that, he is absolutely not asking in good faith


The response to my original post was utterly stupid to a legitimate question. My next posts were not trolling, they were flaming.

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Cacciato
10/01/22 11:29:40 PM
#46:


That was flaming?
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SpeeDLeemon
10/01/22 11:32:55 PM
#47:


I feel so much better about myself after reading this topic. Thanks guys
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Revelation34
10/01/22 11:32:56 PM
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Cacciato posted...
That was flaming?


It would be if somebody reported it.

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JigsawTDCII
10/01/22 11:47:19 PM
#49:


i bet if Ukraine and Russia read this thread they would immediately sign a peace treaty and end the war for the sole purpose making this thread no longer relevant so it dies and they dont have to read anymore of this inane irrelevant embarrassing babble

jfc
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Cacciato
10/02/22 3:47:41 AM
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Revelation34 posted...
It would be if somebody reported it.
Damn. Youre as bad at that as everything else you do on this site.
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BigOlePappy
10/02/22 9:37:39 AM
#51:


papercup posted...
Also, Reddit is fucking nuts. I pointed it out to them that this is more or less a symbolic act against Russia, and I got ganged up on by people telling me I don't know what I'm talking about, and they're going to be full members by next week, there's going to be a no fly zone over Ukraine tonight, all this other bullshit that doesn't make sense if you think about it for 2 seconds.

Reddit sucks

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