Current Events > Lizzo Playing Crystal Flute Owned by James Madison Outrages Right-Wingers

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Humble_Novice
09/30/22 12:36:11 AM
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https://www.rawstory.com/lizzo-james-madison-flute/

"The Library of Congress really took out a 200-year old flute that belonged to James Madison just so Lizzo could twerk with it," fumed right-wing operative Greg Price. "They degrade our history and then call you racist if you actually value it."

"Everyone involved in the decision to allow Lizzo to twerk while playing James Madisons flute needs to be deported," raged "America First" supporter Andrew McCarthy. "I dont care if theyre citizens. Deport them somewhere."

Trump-loving author Nick Adams, meanwhile, said that the "Biden Administration is making a mockery of the country" by letting Lizzo play the flute, as he charged that she "isn't talented enough to play music on a $20 Yamaha Plastic Recorder off Amazon."

Matt Walsh, the right-wing Christian culture warrior from The Daily Wire, believed that letting Lizzo play the flute was deliberately intended to antagonize white people.

"Lizzo playing James Madison's flute was a form of racial retribution, according to the woke Left," he wrote. "And I actually have no doubt that this is part of the reason why the Library of Congress facilitated this spectacle."
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I4NRulez
09/30/22 12:37:39 AM
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we definitely needed another topic about this today

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Humble_Novice
09/30/22 12:40:34 AM
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I4NRulez posted...
we definitely needed another topic about this today
There's another topic about it in CE? I didn't notice.
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VampireCoyote
09/30/22 12:42:57 AM
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Imagine being mad about a flute

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g0ldie
09/30/22 12:42:58 AM
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Lizzo is actually really good at it, too

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Oubliettes
09/30/22 12:50:13 AM
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he played cyclops in the xmen movies

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MabusIncarnate
09/30/22 12:53:12 AM
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_Krave_
09/30/22 1:16:11 AM
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Humble_Novice posted...
Lizzo playing James Madison's flute was a form of racial retribution,
How is this a bad thing?

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Garioshi
09/30/22 1:22:16 AM
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_Krave_ posted...
How is this a bad thing?
They're white supremacists, you see, and they don't like it when that happens.

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Popcorn2000
09/30/22 1:23:10 AM
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Oh look Christian racists

what a surprine
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Turtlebread
09/30/22 1:23:19 AM
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Rekt

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Popcorn2000
09/30/22 1:23:39 AM
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Garioshi posted...
They're white supremacists, you see, and they don't like it when that happens.
Mainly Christians
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Sayoria
09/30/22 1:37:40 AM
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Lmao, piss them off.

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MrMallard
09/30/22 1:42:32 AM
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Humble_Novice posted...
"They degrade our history
Who is "they", and who is he referring to as "our"? Because Lizzo is just as American as this crusty dipshit.

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Despised
09/30/22 1:43:31 AM
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I dont think anyone should be twerking with any piece of history, but I also dont think people should get all crazy about it

is that crazy

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Smashingpmkns
09/30/22 1:44:15 AM
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Despised posted...
I dont think anyone should be twerking with any piece of history
Why not

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cjsdowg
09/30/22 1:49:33 AM
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they are wilding

https://twitter.com/emeriticus/status/1575280843081322502

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Despised
09/30/22 1:50:08 AM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Why not
I dont even have a response for this if you have to question a general respect of historical items

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Despised
09/30/22 1:51:22 AM
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I want to reiterate that Im talking about a general respect for historical items as a whole, I couldnt give a fuck any political take on this

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Despised
09/30/22 1:51:46 AM
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cjsdowg posted...
they are wilding

https://twitter.com/emeriticus/status/1575280843081322502
Like this is absurd

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Phantom_Nook
09/30/22 1:52:35 AM
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cjsdowg posted...
they are wilding

https://twitter.com/emeriticus/status/1575280843081322502
funny, I'm white and I don't feel humiliated.

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MarcyWarcy
09/30/22 2:07:10 AM
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I wish I could care about anything as much as conservative pundits are pretending to care about some fat chick playing an old ass flute
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GranQroppoop
09/30/22 2:09:09 AM
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Some people have no respect for the historical significance of something I just learned was a thing.

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wackyteen
09/30/22 2:13:20 AM
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cjsdowg posted...
they are wilding

https://twitter.com/emeriticus/status/1575280843081322502
I, as an American and the whitest person you'll meet, did not feel humiliated by Lizzo playing a flute I didn't know existed until after the fact.

Lmfao, get the fuck over yourselves.

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Scohen
09/30/22 10:50:18 AM
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This is like alien vs predator, both are assholes and bad people.

I thought lizzo was just some singer that happens to be fat. I felt bad about the criticisms directed at her.

but recently she was at a concert and it was a shitshow. There is this toxic Karen at my gym, she is 40, morbidly obese, she uses the gym as a daycare for her kids. She hops on the treadmill and walks, sometimes she stops it and just stands on it while texting for long periods of time (not even walking!) and she brings her 4 year old kid to the gym with her. She puts his toys on the treadmill next to her, so that treadmill is used pretty much for several hours with fucking toys and and iPad. Then the little shit goes to the other machines and plays with them too.

she has had arguments with many gym goes about it, and she always comes up with the you are a conservative white male, thats why you dont tolerate me bullshit (by the way she is as white as it gets herself).

this woman couldnt shut up about Lizzo playing with a flute a few days ago, and she kept talking on the phone about how lizzo is an inspiration for her and her friends and how they took a road trip across several states to see her at this concert where she played the flute. She said she bought an attire just like the one that lizzo wore and she will wear it at the gym.

get it? Lizzo knows this kind of people exist and everything she does is to target them and stir them up. Trump targeted the racists and stirred them up and made them even angrier. Lizzo is doing the same with morbidly obese Karens that want to stick it to white males.

few people knew about Madisons flute. And I will be honest, I didnt know either. Thats not the flutes fault, its the fault of our dismal education system. And even if Madison was a bad guy according to some people, that 200 year flute is still part of history and an antique. We criticized the kardashian for using Marilyn Monroes dress, and we should also be criticizing Lizzi for slobbering all over a 200 year piece of history just to trigger the white males.

dont get me wrong, the Fox News losers raging at her are still racist fucks. Thats why I say that this is alien v predator. Both suck, and both know perfectly what theyre doing

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Cocytus
09/30/22 10:56:39 AM
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If you ask a focus group of clowns their opinion on something, you're going to get a bunch of clown opinions. I can't even think who better to play that flute.
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g0ldie
09/30/22 10:57:57 AM
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^ wtf at this post?

as far as I know, Lizzo hasn't done anything to convince people to be overweight other than showing that she's happy with who she is, and she hasn't been the kinda person to spread hatred or negativity. so that whole "both sides" thing is bullshit, and only assigns blame to someone who doesn't deserve any in this scenario.

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Scohen posted...
We criticized the kardashian for using Marilyn Monroes dress, and we should also be criticizing Lizzi for slobbering all over a 200 year piece of history just to trigger the white males.
if you watched her performance, she didn't slobber over it or do/say anything to trigger anyone; she even spoke about Madison respectfully.

in other topics, people said she's a trained flautist/has an education in it, and old instruments are used all the time.

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Scohen
09/30/22 11:04:49 AM
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Cocytus posted...
If you ask a focus group of clowns their opinion on something, you're going to get a bunch of clown opinions. I can't even think who better to play that flute.

why is she the best person to play that flute, IYO?

separate train of thought is, nobody should be playing with that flute. Not trump, not one of the blonde bimbos that Fox News idolizes, and not lizzo.

this is like the Marilyn Monroe dress thing. No one should have used it, not kardashian, not Taylor swift, not lizzo (to be fair shed need a circus tent, but you get my point), no one.

a historical artifact doesnt stop being just that if it is not well known or if the person it belonged to was not a good guy

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CyricZ
09/30/22 11:06:17 AM
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lol at Scohen both-sides-ing this.

Someone in the know tell me what banned account we're dealing with here.

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EyeWontBeFooled
09/30/22 11:06:23 AM
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Scohen posted...
This is like alien vs predator, both are assholes and bad people.

I thought lizzo was just some singer that happens to be fat. I felt bad about the criticisms directed at her.

but recently she was at a concert and it was a shitshow. There is this toxic Karen at my gym, she is 40, morbidly obese, she uses the gym as a daycare for her kids. She hops on the treadmill and walks, sometimes she stops it and just stands on it while texting for long periods of time (not even walking!) and she brings her 4 year old kid to the gym with her. She puts his toys on the treadmill next to her, so that treadmill is used pretty much for several hours with fucking toys and and iPad. Then the little shit goes to the other machines and plays with them too.

she has had arguments with many gym goes about it, and she always comes up with the you are a conservative white male, thats why you dont tolerate me bullshit (by the way she is as white as it gets herself).

this woman couldnt shut up about Lizzo playing with a flute a few days ago, and she kept talking on the phone about how lizzo is an inspiration for her and her friends and how they took a road trip across several states to see her at this concert where she played the flute. She said she bought an attire just like the one that lizzo wore and she will wear it at the gym.

get it? Lizzo knows this kind of people exist and everything she does is to target them and stir them up. Trump targeted the racists and stirred them up and made them even angrier. Lizzo is doing the same with morbidly obese Karens that want to stick it to white males.

few people knew about Madisons flute. And I will be honest, I didnt know either. Thats not the flutes fault, its the fault of our dismal education system. And even if Madison was a bad guy according to some people, that 200 year flute is still part of history and an antique. We criticized the kardashian for using Marilyn Monroes dress, and we should also be criticizing Lizzi for slobbering all over a 200 year piece of history just to trigger the white males.

dont get me wrong, the Fox News losers raging at her are still racist fucks. Thats why I say that this is alien v predator. Both suck, and both know perfectly what theyre doing
You sound mad.

Also gtfoh with the both sides shit

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TomClark
09/30/22 11:07:52 AM
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g0ldie posted...
in other topics, people said she's a trained flautist/has an education in it, and old instruments are used all the time.

This is true - she's classically trained, has played since childhood and took a BA degree in playing the flute. Years before all of this booted off she was being credited with woodwind coming back into the mainstream.

This isn't like she was strolling past it on display and grabbed it without permission to do raunchy poses with it for Twitter likes - she was specifically invited by the Library of Congress to perform on that flute, and is - without hyperbole - probably one of the most qualified famous musicians in America to do so.

Nobody gives a shit that she played the flute, they give a shit that she did so while being black, because rich elderly white dudes can't get their head around how someone black and predominantly famous for hip-hop could possibly also utterly outclass them at classical music, which they see as "their" field.

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EyeWontBeFooled
09/30/22 11:09:42 AM
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Despised posted...
The people in here who think anyone should fuck with literal historical artifacts are fucking delusional, but since everything in the universe is single sided now I am neo-nazi racist
Ahem

She was INVITED TO DO SO

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CyricZ
09/30/22 11:11:15 AM
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Despised posted...
The people in here who think anyone should fuck with literal historical artifacts are fucking delusional, but since everything in the universe is single sided now I am neo-nazi racist
lol dude could you elaborate on what you mean by "fuck with"?

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ZMythos
09/30/22 11:11:58 AM
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Scohen posted...
why is she the best person to play that flute, IYO?

separate train of thought is, nobody should be playing with that flute. Not trump, not one of the blonde bimbos that Fox News idolizes, and not lizzo.

this is like the Marilyn Monroe dress thing. No one should have used it, not kardashian, not Taylor swift, not lizzo (to be fair shed need a circus tent, but you get my point), no one.

a historical artifact doesnt stop being just that if it is not well known or if the person it belonged to was not a good guy
Dude why are you so mad? She had permission to play it. She's obviously a skilled musician who ahs respect for finely crafted instruments.

Who fucking cares if she's "the best person to play it"?

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Scohen
09/30/22 11:20:52 AM
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g0ldie posted...
^ wtf at this post?

as far as I know, Lizzo hasn't done anything to convince people to be overweight other than showing that she's happy with who she is, and she hasn't been the kinda person to spread hatred or negativity. so that whole "both sides" thing is bullshit, and only assigns blame to someone who doesn't deserve any in this scenario.

edit: at post 26

if you watched her performance, she didn't slobber over it or do/say anything to trigger anyone; she even spoke about Madison respectfully.

in other topics, people said she's a trained flutist/has an education in it, and old instruments are used all the time.

all I am gonna say is she chose that specific flute because she knew itd trigger the hell out of the Fox News and Maga types.

she chooses those skin tight, super skimpy attires even thought she is like 300 lbs because she knows itll trigger conservatives.

is she worse than the conservatives, racists and trumpers? Hell no. But she is not innocent either. She plays the trigger the ____ to appeal to the _____ shtick too


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Scohen
09/30/22 11:21:34 AM
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ZMythos posted...
Dude why are you so mad? She had permission to play it. She's obviously a skilled musician who ahs respect for finely crafted instruments.

Who fucking cares if she's "the best person to play it"?

I dont care if she is the best person to play it. Some dude said she was and I was curious about it. How is this on me?

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CyricZ
09/30/22 11:21:50 AM
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Scohen posted...
all I am gonna say is she chose that specific flute because she knew itd trigger the hell out of the Fox News and Maga types.
And you can prove this, I assume.

Scohen posted...
How is this on me?
Dunno man. Maybe because you keep stepping up and putting yourself in the crossfire?

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g0ldie
09/30/22 11:23:02 AM
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TomClark posted...
This is true - she's classically trained, has played since childhood and took a BA degree in playing the flute. Years before all of this booted off she was being credited with woodwind coming back into the mainstream.

This isn't like she was strolling past it on display and grabbed it without permission to do raunchy poses with it for Twitter likes - she was specifically invited by the Library of Congress to perform on that flute, and is - without hyperbole - probably one of the most qualified famous musicians in America to do so.

Nobody gives a shit that she played the flute, they give a shit that she did so while being black, because rich elderly white dudes can't get their head around how someone black and predominantly famous for hip-hop could possibly also utterly outclass them at classical music, which they see as "their" field.
thanks for the info.

but yea, just because something is a piece of history, it doesn't necessarily mean it needs to be locked in a display case to never be interacted with again - sometimes (under supervision), it's nice to see why those things might have had meaning, introduce them to a new audience, etc.

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CyricZ
09/30/22 11:25:25 AM
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Also I want to add something I posted in another topic on this:

I am fine venerating the flute as a remarkable piece of craftsmanship by Parisian Claude Laurent. I think that's cool. It was also part of the stuff Dolley Madison rescued from the White House fire, but then it ultimately got passed around in private collections until the 1940s.

All James Madison did was own the flute for a time. It was gifted to him for his winning his second term of the presidency. As I understand it, he didn't even play it.

The reason it sits in the Library of Congress is because a president owned it. Trying to make the argument that it is significant to American history because of that seems a bit foolish.

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TomClark
09/30/22 11:26:06 AM
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Scohen posted...
all I am gonna say is she chose that specific flute because she knew itd trigger the hell out of the Fox News and Maga types.

The Library of Congress approached her about playing the flute. It wasn't her idea.

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MabusIncarnate
09/30/22 11:26:23 AM
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Wonder how many that are so outraged had no idea this flute even existed until this week. It's so precious and historically relevant now though.

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UnfairRepresent
09/30/22 11:26:32 AM
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VampireCoyote posted...
Imagine being mad about a flute


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g0ldie
09/30/22 11:27:21 AM
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Scohen posted...
all I am gonna say is she chose that specific flute because she knew itd trigger the hell out of the Fox News and Maga types.
you base this on what?

Scohen posted...
she chooses those skin tight, super skimpy attires even thought she is like 300 lbs because she knows itll trigger conservatives.

is she worse than the conservatives, racists and trumpers? Hell no. But she is not innocent either. She plays the trigger the ____ to appeal to the _____ shtick too
why should tight clothing on a big woman be triggering to conservatives?

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ZevLoveDOOM
09/30/22 11:27:40 AM
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dont these people have anything better to do that sit around all day and find stuff to get mad about on the internet? goddamn dude...
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GrandConjuraton
09/30/22 11:28:56 AM
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g0ldie posted...
you base this on what?

why should tight clothing on a big woman be triggering to conservatives?
Fat acceptance is considered "politically correct ".

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g0ldie
09/30/22 11:30:26 AM
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unfortunately :/

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AtelierGaming86
09/30/22 11:32:55 AM
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Is that the flute that Yankee Doodle was played on?

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Cocytus
09/30/22 11:34:23 AM
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Scohen posted...
why is she the best person to play that flute, IYO?
Take 30 seconds...name me someone better....

That's what I thought.
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MabusIncarnate
09/30/22 11:34:35 AM
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AtelierGaming86 posted...
Is that the flute that Yankee Doodle was played on?
No that one was made out of macaroni

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