Current Events > Biden's Education Department Changes Course, Excludes Millions From Loan Relief

Topic List
Page List: 1
trickMms
09/29/22 1:42:47 PM
#1:


https://www.npr.org/2022/09/29/1125923528/biden-student-loans-debt-cancellation-ffel-perkins

In a remarkable reversal that will affect the fortunes of millions of student loan borrowers, the U.S. Department of Education has quietly changed its guidance around who qualifies for President Biden's sweeping student debt relief plan.

At the center of the change are borrowers who took out federal student loans many years ago, both Perkins loans and Federal Family Education Loans. FFEL loans, issued and managed by private banks but guaranteed by the federal government, were once the mainstay of the federal student loan program until the FFEL program ended in 2010.

Today, according to federal data, more than 4 million borrowers still have commercially-held FFEL loans. Until Thursday, the department's own website advised these borrowers that they could consolidate these loans into federal Direct Loans and thereby qualify for relief under Biden's debt cancellation program.

On Thursday, though, the department quietly changed that language. The guidance now says, "As of Sept. 29, 2022, borrowers with federal student loans not held by ED cannot obtain one-time debt relief by consolidating those loans into Direct Loans."

It's unclear why the department reversed its decision on allowing FFEL borrowers with commercially-held loans to consolidate and then qualify for debt relief.

In a statement to NPR, a department spokesperson says, "Our goal is to provide relief to as many eligible borrowers as quickly and easily as possible, and this will allow us to achieve that goal while we continue to explore additional legally-available options to provide relief to borrowers with privately owned FFEL loans and Perkins loans, including whether FFEL borrowers could receive one-time debt relief without needing to consolidate. Borrowers with privately held federal student loans who applied to consolidate their loans into Direct Loans before September 29, 2022 will obtain one-time debt relief. The FFEL program is now defunct and only a small percentage of borrowers have FFEL loans."

The tell in that statement is "legally-available."

Multiple legal experts tell NPR the reversal in policy was likely made out of concern that the private banks that manage old FFEL loans could potentially file lawsuits to stop the debt relief, arguing that Biden's plan would cause them financial harm.

When FFEL borrowers consolidate their old loans into federal Direct Loans, these private banks essentially lose business. If these banks' financial health depends, at least in part, on the assumption that they would be holding and profiting from these debts over the long-term, then losing borrowers to Biden's debt relief plan could, possibly, constitute harm.

"FFEL lenders have shown their true colors. Instead of working in the interest of student loan borrowers their customers these lenders are holding hostage relief to millions of borrowers in order to keep making a buck off of borrowers suffering," says Persis Yu, of the Student Borrower Protection Center.

Changing the policy now, and limiting the number of FFEL borrowers who can conceivably qualify for debt relief, may make these FFEL banks less likely to legally oppose debt relief.

---
Remove all letters found in Happy Halloween from your username.
... Copied to Clipboard!
ScazarMeltex
09/29/22 1:44:07 PM
#2:


So fucking stupid.

---
Furthermore, The GOP is a Fascist Organization and must be destroyed
... Copied to Clipboard!
TheHoldSteady
09/29/22 1:44:13 PM
#3:


Say it ain't so, Joe.

---
When it's hard to see the benefits, the tavern is a decent way to seal off all the stimulus, feel something close to death but just a little bit
... Copied to Clipboard!
legendary_zell
09/29/22 1:44:26 PM
#4:


Disgusting.

---
I gotta be righteous, I gotta be me, I gotta be conscious, I gotta be free, I gotta be able, I gotta attack, I gotta be stable, I gotta be black.
... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGoldenEel
09/29/22 1:45:53 PM
#5:


He just wanted to remind everyone that hes still joe biden

---
BLACK LIVES MATTER
Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/
... Copied to Clipboard!
#6
Post #6 was unavailable or deleted.
Pitlord_Special
09/29/22 1:47:43 PM
#7:


Dark Brandon did that.

---
Posted from my iPhone 13
... Copied to Clipboard!
BignutzisBack
09/29/22 1:51:23 PM
#8:


Wew lad

---
http://i.imgur.com/plA0Vg9.gif
https://media.giphy.com/media/dgK22exekwOLm/giphy.gif
... Copied to Clipboard!
BignutzisBack
09/29/22 1:52:02 PM
#9:


So how many will still qualify after this decision, anyone have the rough numbers?

---
http://i.imgur.com/plA0Vg9.gif
https://media.giphy.com/media/dgK22exekwOLm/giphy.gif
... Copied to Clipboard!
#10
Post #10 was unavailable or deleted.
Solar_Crimson
09/29/22 1:54:02 PM
#11:


Dumbass doing this right before midterms.

trickMms posted...
It's unclear why the department reversed its decision on allowing FFEL borrowers with commercially-held loans to consolidate and then qualify for debt relief.
Someone very rich and very powerful complained.

---
"To Republicans, life begins at conception and ends in elementary school." - GranolaPanic
... Copied to Clipboard!
#12
Post #12 was unavailable or deleted.
InTheEyesOfFire
09/29/22 1:54:18 PM
#13:


Oh those poor fucking banks who would lose money.

What a shitshow.

---
"Oh man would you just shut up already, how come all you sword guys have to talk about how cool your swords are?"
... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg
09/29/22 1:54:44 PM
#14:


At this point it is a clear that Dems want to Republicans to take over.so they can get bigger wins down the road.

---
To be a poor man is hard, but to be a poor race in a land of dollars is the very bottom of hardships.
W.E.B. Du Bois
... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns
09/29/22 1:55:52 PM
#15:


Democrats are so fucking incompetent lmao

---
http://i.imgur.com/x04tPRZ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/t7T392I.jpg
... Copied to Clipboard!
Sayoria
09/29/22 1:56:00 PM
#16:


InTheEyesOfFire posted...
Oh those poor fucking banks who would lose money.

What a shitshow.


---
Japanese Crack: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5pzggr
... Copied to Clipboard!
Frosted_Midna
09/29/22 2:05:20 PM
#17:


Hate this!

---
It's more than good, it's alive!
Warning: May contain stone hat pieces http://i.imgur.com/N6v5qZx.jpg
... Copied to Clipboard!
thronedfire2
09/29/22 2:15:55 PM
#18:


Im not sure why they ever would have implied those people are eligible? The banks own those loans, unless the government is actually going to do the consolidation itself and then forgive the loans this never would have worked

---
I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen...
... Copied to Clipboard!
Warmaximus
09/29/22 2:57:32 PM
#19:


In fact, a new lawsuit filed Thursday by six state attorneys general, makes this very argument. One of the plaintiffs, Missouri, is home to MOHELA, which manages both federal Direct Loans and these old FFEL program loans.

So reading through the article, six state attorney generals have already filed a lawsuit against the Biden Administration using the exact arguments given. And reading through the court document itself, it's very clear they are only using that as a pretext to attack the entirety of the student loan relief plan as unconstitutional.

It 100% sucks what the Biden admin is doing here, but there's a bit more context here than just "Joe Brandon bad". Wonder why the TC left that specific part of the article out in the OP.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Bleuets
09/29/22 3:08:18 PM
#20:


Sad
... Copied to Clipboard!
MarcyWarcy
09/29/22 3:20:45 PM
#21:


The democrat way
... Copied to Clipboard!
Cocytus
09/29/22 3:24:13 PM
#22:


Phew, thank God I don't got one of those.
... Copied to Clipboard!
TaylorHeinicke
09/29/22 3:25:52 PM
#23:


Warmaximus posted...
Wonder why the TC left that specific part of the article out in the OP.
It's already enough work to paste the whole text of the article with all the ad space and extra text that has to be filtered out, I wasn't about to upload each screenshot and document as well. No ulterior motive here.

---
St. Louis Battlehawks (1-1)
... Copied to Clipboard!
trappedunderice
09/29/22 3:28:13 PM
#24:


Why does this country have such a problem with people trying to get an education?
... Copied to Clipboard!
Sayoria
09/29/22 3:30:40 PM
#25:


trappedunderice posted...
Why does this country have such a problem with people trying to get an education?

Keep'em stupid, they let you get away with anything and everything.

---
Japanese Crack: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5pzggr
... Copied to Clipboard!
Warmaximus
09/29/22 3:43:45 PM
#26:


TaylorHeinicke posted...
It's already enough work to paste the whole text of the article with all the ad space and extra text that has to be filtered out, I wasn't about to upload each screenshot and document as well. No ulterior motive here.

This is text, so I'm not sure if that's sarcasm against the TC or you forgetting to switch alts to try and justify why you skipped over a single paragraph with important context to the situation (even has a link to the court document). Weirder though is you quoting the two paragraphs right after the one you skipped despite the "work" it already apparently took to post the article here.
... Copied to Clipboard!
CARRRNE_ASADA
09/29/22 3:46:18 PM
#27:


Solar_Crimson posted...
Dumbass doing this right before midterms.

Someone very rich and very powerful complained.


This. But what does this mean exactly. I have 2 loans originally backed by the fed government from 2009 and 2010. What does this mean for me?

---
SEXY SEXY!
... Copied to Clipboard!
TaylorHeinicke
09/29/22 3:52:50 PM
#28:


Warmaximus posted...
This is text, so I'm not sure if that's sarcasm against the TC or you forgetting to switch alts to try and justify why you skipped over a single paragraph with important context to the situation (even has a link to the court document).
I'm legitimately confused here then -- what paragraph are you saying I skipped?

---
St. Louis Battlehawks (1-1)
... Copied to Clipboard!
Warmaximus
09/29/22 4:14:02 PM
#29:


TaylorHeinicke posted...
I'm legitimately confused here then -- what paragraph are you saying I skipped?

The one I originally posted.

In fact, a new lawsuit filed Thursday by six state attorneys general, makes this very argument. One of the plaintiffs, Missouri, is home to MOHELA, which manages both federal Direct Loans and these old FFEL program loans.

Should be in between the paragraphs "When FFEL borrowers consolidate their old loans..." and "FFEL lenders have shown their true colors...." The words "a new lawsuit" are in blue in the article because they are a direct link to the court filing of the lawsuit.
... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent
09/29/22 4:15:00 PM
#30:


I'm not surprised he did this

But I am surprised he did it BEFORE the mid terms

---
^ Hey now that's completely unfair!
http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png
... Copied to Clipboard!
AloneIBreak
09/29/22 4:15:49 PM
#31:


Not surprising in the least. If big banks dont want it, it aint happening.

---
As long as politics is the shadow cast on society by big business, the attenuation of the shadow will not change the substance.
Libertarian socialist.
... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL
09/29/22 4:18:06 PM
#32:


Yeah, this is not good. Don't promise people something and then take it away.

---
https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif
https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg
... Copied to Clipboard!
Warmaximus
09/29/22 4:32:06 PM
#33:


So, reading the court document further, the lawsuit these 6 states have brought is seeking to stop the entire rollout of student loan relief that's set to start early next month using all of this FFEL stuff as a basis for their argument.

This is most likely the Biden admin's (crappy) way to trying to negate that. Probably some argument like "Well we're not letting them get rid of FFEL loans, so your whole lawsuit has no ground to stand on." Still sucks though.
... Copied to Clipboard!
ElatedVenusaur
09/29/22 4:35:31 PM
#34:


Warmaximus posted...
So, reading the court document further, the lawsuit these 6 states have brought is seeking to stop the entire rollout of student loan relief that's set to start early next month using all of this FFEL stuff as a basis for their argument.

This is most likely the Biden admin's (crappy) way to trying to negate that. Probably some argument like "Well we're not letting them get rid of FFEL loans, so your whole lawsuit has no ground to stand on." Still sucks though.
Pre-emptive surrender on putative ideological goals is the New Democrat way.

---
I'm Queen of Tomorrow baby! Remember: heat from fire, fire from heat!
She/her
... Copied to Clipboard!
Iodine
09/29/22 4:37:15 PM
#35:


I wish Bernie would have won.

---
In Belichick we Trust
... Copied to Clipboard!
#36
Post #36 was unavailable or deleted.
Rexdragon125
09/29/22 4:40:03 PM
#37:


Billionaire corporate donors got mad they weren't getting the money I guess
... Copied to Clipboard!
trickMms
09/30/22 6:36:02 PM
#38:


Rexdragon125 posted...
Billionaire corporate donors got mad they weren't getting the money I guess
what else is new

---
Remove all letters found in Happy Halloween from your username.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Accolon
09/30/22 6:40:23 PM
#39:


This includes my wife

---
http://i.imgur.com/XAMp8.jpg
... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus
09/30/22 6:50:11 PM
#40:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


What they're doing now has the best chance of success. So they might be able to reverse it but a court could put a stay on relief and then no one gets it.

Give what we can now and fight for more later.

The problem here isn't Biden it's red states suing for this shit. Everyone needs to know they're the ones blocking relief.

---
It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha."
https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg
... Copied to Clipboard!
BakiHanma462
09/30/22 6:52:56 PM
#41:


Wonder what other catches there will be...
... Copied to Clipboard!
VIXVLV
09/30/22 6:55:38 PM
#42:


Warmaximus posted...
It 100% sucks what the Biden admin is doing here, but there's a bit more context here than just "Joe Brandon bad". Wonder why the TC left that specific part of the article out in the OP.

You know why.

---
COVxy alt
... Copied to Clipboard!
Gwynevere
09/30/22 7:11:34 PM
#43:


This definitely sucks, but it does read as preemptively excluding FFEL loan holders so this whole thing doesn't get nuked in litigation from greedy billionaires.

Probably should have had the foresight to realize this would happen before making a big promise, because regardless of the intent, this move looks absolutely terrible right before major elections

---
A hunter is a hunter...even in a dream
[She/they]
... Copied to Clipboard!
gigageek1500
09/30/22 7:16:24 PM
#44:


BignutzisBack posted...
So how many will still qualify after this decision, anyone have the rough numbers?
The article from August says the estimate at that time was 43 million borrowers were expected to benefit. If that number was accurate and this affects 4 million, then 39 million borrowers who stand to benefit are still in the same position as originally promised, just over 90%.

---
"Like you're standing in front of them with your hands behind your back, and then present a small ribbon-wrapped gift to them."
Duskmon on the colon
... Copied to Clipboard!
tremain07
09/30/22 7:36:49 PM
#45:


I wonder if Biden wants Dems to lose midterms so when it comes time for him to make due on is promise to codify Roe and it turns out even with more Democrats they still don't want to do it he
ll be in deep shit for reelection, especially after this

---
A worthless existence
... Copied to Clipboard!
BlueTigerLion
10/01/22 2:20:09 PM
#46:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]



---
Hey now.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Master_Bass
10/01/22 2:21:40 PM
#47:


It's almost like they want to lose the midterms. What a bunch of morons.

---
Many Bothans died to bring you this post.
... Copied to Clipboard!
sabin017
10/01/22 3:03:44 PM
#48:


Oops, they were supposed to announce this in December.

---
https://i.imgur.com/oZKLfiX.jpg
... Copied to Clipboard!
#49
Post #49 was unavailable or deleted.
Topic List
Page List: 1