Current Events > New Yugioh banlist, RIP Halq

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CM_Ponch
09/26/22 2:18:56 PM
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Rest in piss that ishttps://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/1/2/AAXqMxAADt2E.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/1/3/AAXqMxAADt2F.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/1/4/AAXqMxAADt2G.jpg

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gunplagirl
09/26/22 2:21:23 PM
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Lmao halq *spits on its grave*

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Solar_Crimson
09/26/22 2:22:19 PM
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Right up there with Pot of Greed. ...Whatever that thing does.

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JumpstyIe
09/26/22 2:22:57 PM
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wish tear got more of a hit but ronin and halq is definitely welcome

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Unsuprised_Pika
09/26/22 2:45:56 PM
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I just added fairy tail snow to my exosister deck fuck

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TaylorHeinicke
09/26/22 2:48:13 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
Right up there with Pot of Greed. ...Whatever that thing does.
why is pot of greed banned?

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CarbonButtflap
09/26/22 2:50:02 PM
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TaylorHeinicke posted...
why is pot of greed banned?
At least back when it was first unbanned: Theres no cost to having it in your deck honestly. You draw it, you play it immediately, you get the card you wouldve got if it wasnt in your deck plus one right away, you always have a benefit.

It was one of those cards that had to be in everybodys deck. Back in the early days, there were a lot of those. Monster Reborn, Raigeki, Black Hole, Change of heart, mirror force, Jinzo, everyone had to have em.

By the time Blue Eyes wasnt a good card anymore (so around the second expansion) there were entire decks of must-have cards and the rarer cards were always stronger. The deck with the most rare cards generally won

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Tmaster148
09/26/22 2:50:29 PM
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TaylorHeinicke posted...
why is pot of greed banned?

It's banned because it's a card that literally every deck would run the max number of.

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CarbonButtflap
09/26/22 2:51:19 PM
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Tmaster148 posted...
It's banned because it's a card that literally every deck would run the max number of.
Back in the day literally every deck did

source: played tournaments in 2006

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TaylorHeinicke
09/26/22 2:52:12 PM
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CarbonButtflap posted...
At least back when it was first unbanned: Theres no cost to having it in your deck honestly. You draw it, you play it immediately, you get the card you wouldve got if it wasnt in your deck plus one right away, you always have a benefit.

It was one of those cards that had to be in everybodys deck. Back in the early days, there were a lot of those. Monster Reborn, Raigeki, Black Hole, Change of heart, mirror force, Jinzo, everyone had to have em.

Tmaster148 posted...
It's banned because it's a card that literally every deck would run the max number of.
but what does it do?

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CarbonButtflap
09/26/22 2:52:45 PM
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TaylorHeinicke posted...
but what does it do?
Draw 2 cards

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Zero_Destroyer
09/26/22 2:54:38 PM
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i feel like unbanning substitoad is a bad idea even absent ronin

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Gobstoppers12
09/26/22 2:58:26 PM
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CarbonButtflap posted...
Draw 2 cards
I really, really wish I knew what Pot of Greed did.

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Fable
09/26/22 2:59:42 PM
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JumpstyIe posted...
but ronin and halq is definitely welcome

Fuck off

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Doe
09/26/22 3:00:56 PM
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This card has needed to go for a very long time.

But you know who is wrongly jailed?

Heavymetalfoes Electrumite!

Pendulum brought me back to Yugioh and ever since my newfound excitement for the game they have spent YEARS printing hate, trash, and cruel false offerings for my playstyle.

99% of every pendulum idea committed to cards remain fundamentally unplayable due to MR4. Who is even going to benefit enough from Electrumite besides Endymion - and, by the way, how did that even get printed, who wants to deal with all those fucking counters over the board...

I'll happily prisoner trade Electrumite for some Endymion shmucks

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Calwings
09/26/22 3:07:42 PM
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Konami still thinks Mystic Mine is okay

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yusiko
09/26/22 3:13:07 PM
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I wish summon sorceress would come off the ban list

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CM_Ponch
09/26/22 3:24:21 PM
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Doe posted...
Heavymetalfoes Electrumite!
I thought it was guaranteed but nope

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tremain07
09/26/22 3:24:57 PM
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yusiko posted...
I wish summon sorceress would come off the ban list
You and me both, she carried my Dark Magician deck hard and having her plus Beyond the pendulum would give me some ideas for Pendulum Magicians. but man, cyber jar coming back? they're gonna regret that if it hasn't been errat'd

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yusiko
09/26/22 3:26:01 PM
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Summon sorceress was only an issue because of halq and isolde
With Halq gone she could come back

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Touch
09/26/22 3:38:25 PM
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I play trash ass Ancient Warriors so I am not affected!!!!!

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Oreos74
09/26/22 3:39:17 PM
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What the fuck is that blue card

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yusiko
09/26/22 3:41:04 PM
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Oreos74 posted...
What the fuck is that blue card


A link monster
A really powerful one that was put in like every single deck and should have been banned A long time ago

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maxdisco
09/26/22 3:44:22 PM
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Haven't played since like a year after the Spellbook heyday. Did they make some reoccurence? How is Madolche gonna fair? Thinking of going to some locals again

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Prismsblade
09/26/22 3:52:05 PM
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maxdisco posted...
Haven't played since like a year after the Spellbook heyday. Did they make some reoccurence? How is Madolche gonna fair? Thinking of going to some locals again
It's a decent OTKO deck if I recall. Nothing close to meta but your win every now and then going 2nd I'm sure.

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FaultyCircuitry
09/26/22 3:53:21 PM
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Yu-Gi-Oh has the absolute worst card UI ever

Word salad forced into such a small area

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tremain07
09/26/22 4:56:43 PM
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someday she'll return
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Crimsoness
09/26/22 4:58:15 PM
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From what I've seen of this game it's just whoever goes first wins because they just draw their entire deck in one turn and win.

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Tmaster148
09/26/22 5:01:25 PM
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Crimsoness posted...
From what I've seen of this game it's just whoever goes first wins because they just draw their entire deck in one turn and win.

Even the best decks aren't drawing their entire deck in 1 turn. If that was the case Exodia would be meta.

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megamanfreakXD
09/26/22 5:06:07 PM
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Crimsoness posted...
From what I've seen of this game it's just whoever goes first wins because they just draw their entire deck in one turn and win.

This is true, unfortunately. Thats why you need hand traps or else you won't win.

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TaylorHeinicke
09/26/22 5:29:44 PM
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no one's told me what pot of greed does

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JumpstyIe
09/26/22 6:02:09 PM
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Fable posted...
Fuck off

tear/paleo/frog, paleo/frog, or spright?

i love paleo/frogs but i'd rather see ronin go than toad because i have a jank level 4 water (sharks mainly) deck i love as a casual sidepiece than ends on triple toad (from bahamuts) and a utopic dragon future all the time

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Relient_K
09/26/22 6:03:45 PM
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I cannot for the life of me understand how to read these cards. I've been playing MTG for years but Yu-Gi-Oh confuses me a ton.

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Fable
09/26/22 6:04:39 PM
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JumpstyIe posted...
tear/paleo/frog, paleo/frog, or spright?

i love paleo/frogs but i'd rather see ronin go than toad because i have a jank level 4 water (sharks mainly) deck i love as a casual sidepiece than ends on triple toad (from bahamuts) and a utopic dragon future all the time

I am on Sprights but I had already moved away from the frig engine to play the tri-brigade version. Competitively I will probably swap to the runick mine build since Konami just loves mine for some reason.

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Rioushu
09/26/22 6:08:27 PM
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Unbanned Cyber Jar and still didn't ban Mystic Mines huh? And people aay Konami doesn't listen

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JumpstyIe
09/26/22 6:18:50 PM
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Fable posted...
Competitively I will probably swap to the runick mine build since Konami just loves mine for some reason.

right? sometimes they are just absolutely wack

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CM_Ponch
09/26/22 6:29:50 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/3/0/AAXqMxAADt5e.jpg

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Touch
09/26/22 9:53:41 PM
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Crimsoness posted...
From what I've seen of this game it's just whoever goes first wins because they just draw their entire deck in one turn and win.
There's plenty of hand traps and board breakers but yeah, the game is highly favored for going first. That's why "Just draw the out bro" has been a bit of a meme lately

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Calwings
09/26/22 10:45:20 PM
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https://i.imgur.com/eRCLvG2.jpg

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Kim_Seong-a
09/26/22 10:56:07 PM
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Relient_K posted...
I cannot for the life of me understand how to read these cards. I've been playing MTG for years but Yu-Gi-Oh confuses me a ton.

Condition : Cost ; Effect

Condition is when/under what circumstances it can be activated and is followed by a colon. If there's no condition, you can activate it whenever it would be appropriate to play that card type.

Cost is what you have to do play the card and is followed by a semi-colon. This is the MtG equivalent of tapping mana. The only difference is that in YuGiOh, pretty much anything could possibly be a cost. Life points, discarding cards, committing to a target, etc. Some effects have no cost and are restricted only by their condition.

Effect is what happens at resolution.

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Calwings
09/27/22 9:30:52 PM
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https://i.imgur.com/pvy0pfh.jpg

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CM_Ponch
09/28/22 12:55:47 PM
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Calwings posted...
https://i.imgur.com/pvy0pfh.jpg
Lmfao

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refmon
09/28/22 1:19:25 PM
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Why does yugioh not have any keywords? Every card is just full of text

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Doe
09/28/22 1:21:00 PM
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refmon posted...
Why does yugioh not have any keywords? Every card is just full of text
It does have keywords for a couple things but YGO interactions are way more nuanced than other card games. In a way it's a game about lawyering.

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Tmaster148
09/28/22 1:24:23 PM
#45:


refmon posted...
Why does yugioh not have any keywords? Every card is just full of text

Yugioh was a show that got made into a card game. I don't think there was really a plan for the longevity of the game at the time. Konami can be quite slow to reprint older cards so I doubt they really want to go back and update every card with keywords.

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SF_Okami
09/28/22 1:28:15 PM
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I really wish Mystic Mine was in Master Duel. As an anti-meta player, I would have so much fun with that card. Guess Inspector Boarder is the closest we got until they hopefully add it to the game.

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Calwings
09/28/22 1:33:36 PM
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refmon posted...
Why does yugioh not have any keywords? Every card is just full of text

They have a few for gameplay mechanics ("banish" for removing from play, "piercing damage" for dealing battle damage when attacking a defense position monster, "excavate" for looking at the top cards of your deck) but not many. There are far too many different kinds of effects to be reasonably covered with keywords. For example:

"Destroy 1 monster."
"Target 1 monster; destroy it."
"Send 1 monster to the graveyard."
"Target 1 monster; send it to the graveyard."

All four of these wordings do completely different things and the difference between them can mean the difference between winning a game or losing. It's this kind of insane level of nuance that makes keywords not really work in Yu-Gi-Oh.

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Fable
09/28/22 3:52:00 PM
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Calwings posted...
They have a few for gameplay mechanics ("banish" for removing from play, "piercing damage" for dealing battle damage when attacking a defense position monster, "excavate" for looking at the top cards of your deck) but not many. There are far too many different kinds of effects to be reasonably covered with keywords. For example:

"Destroy 1 monster."
"Target 1 monster; destroy it."
"Send 1 monster to the graveyard."
"Target 1 monster; send it to the graveyard."

All four of these wordings do completely different things and the difference between them can mean the difference between winning a game or losing. It's this kind of insane level of nuance that makes keywords not really work in Yu-Gi-Oh.

Ohh tell him about "missing the timing" next

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Evening_Dragon
09/28/22 3:55:35 PM
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Why do they still call it a TCG? Those aren't cards, they're fucking pamphlets.

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Doe
09/28/22 3:55:56 PM
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Evening_Dragon posted...
Why do they still call it a TCG? Those aren't cards, they're fucking pamphlets.
Oh BOO FUCKING HOO

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