Current Events > Non-tippers end up having to pick up their own food delivery

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mybbqrules posted...

Hey, *shrug* you do you and enjoy your $40 dollar Big Mac meal. It's just not worth it to me to pay that much on top of already steadily rising food prices to have it delivered to me.

If it is to you, great.

I mean I'm gonna get something a little nicer than McDonald's, but yeah you seem to get the gist.

I consider the tip paying for the convenience and saving time and i have dashpass free with my credit card so the slight increase in food price is for letting my use the app since i domt have to much other fees.

Im a cheap guy most of the time until its for convenience or saves me time or work.
I only ever started doordash when i had my kid so i consider the convenience of not having to get him in his car seat which he hates and go to a place where i have to take him out and put him back in the car.
Also have to take him at the right time or else he will start crying right away when i drive.

I was always that person who would never use a doordash because i could just pick it up myself and im cheap. But situations change and i love doordash.
They always have deals and stuff too which sort of evens out the inflated prices so i just take a loss for the tip.

@Lunar_Savage posted...

I don't use delivery services. And I rarely ever use a service where I'm expected to tip (and I tip well when I do).

I agree that drivers should be paid better. But that's not the reality we're living in. Until it is, no fucking sympathy for cheapskates abusing a system.

so just to be clear:

8.75 is the price for an entree/2sides

on the app is 11.75
plus delivery fee, tax, and other fees:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/8/2/AAW4eUAADqwu.jpg

So paying 19.85 for a 8.75 meal, before tip, is being a cheapskate and abusing the system lmao?

get fucking real. Im someone who tips 20% when I Postmates or Ubereats, which I rarely do now, cause its a fucking joke. But as said before you people defending this shit as thats just how it is are what we call enablers.

Youre absolutely a bigger problem for delivery drivers than people who dont tip imo.

Zeeak4444 posted...

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so just to be clear:

8.75 is the price for an entree/2sides

on the app is 11.75
plus delivery fee, tax, and other fees:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/8/2/AAW4eUAADqwu.jpg

So paying 19.85 for a 8.75 meal, before tip, is being a cheapskate and abusing the system lmao?

get fucking real. Im someone who tips 20% when I Postmates or Ubereats, which I rarely do now, cause its a fucking joke. But as said before you people defending this shit as thats just how it is are what we call enablers.

Youre absolutely a bigger problem for delivery drivers than people who dont tip imo.

You have to tip on top of that?? Fucking hell that app/industry is a scam lmao murica

Why is the delivery fee so low compared to the 'other fees'? Are any of these 'fees' going to the driver at least?

voldothegr8 posted...

Pre-tipping is bullshit and illogical. Tips are for a service well done not an entitlement.

This. There are multiple times where I've pre tipped and gotten cold food.

I dont really understand what happened. If he declined why was the order processed and payment received? If its a required payment for a service why are you people calling it a tip?

Mew posted...

You have to tip on top of that?? Fucking hell that app/industry is a scam lmao murica

Why is the delivery fee so low compared to the 'other fees'? Are any of these 'fees' going to the driver at least?

Nope. Not a one.

Mew posted...

You have to tip on top of that?? Fucking hell that app/industry is a scam lmao murica

Why is the delivery fee so low compared to the 'other fees'? Are any of these 'fees' going to the driver at least?

i dont believe so. I know the driver gets a portion of it but Im pretty sure they get the delivery fee or something.

its absolutely absurd, and Postmates/door dash arent much better. Its why Id rather the companies go under and something better spring up, the $11 extra Id be paying for that delivery should be split like 4-7 or 5-6 for company-driver.

Zeeak4444 posted...

Its why Id rather the companies go under and something better spring up

What do you think of the scenario in post #27?

I know I went off on being a cynical "market!" ass again, but a few hours and a few drinks later, I think it's not a bad model at all.

Questionmarktarius posted...

What do you think of the scenario in post #27?

I know I went off on being a cynical "market!" ass again, but a few hours and a few drinks later, I think it's not a bad model at all.

oh absolutely, I feel like that would make more sense. Hell even something similar to like Fiverr or something with the opinion for delivery drivers to be notified of new offers or something.

i could dig #27 for sure though, that would be better for all parties aside from the businesses pocketing all that extra cash.

Zeeak4444 posted...

i could dig #27 for sure though, that would be better for all parties aside from the businesses pocketing all that extra cash.

#27 is basically the "you do well, we do well" model that Steam and lawyers runs on. It's the old consignment model that's worked for several centuries, if not a millennia or two.

This topic just makes glad I never used any of these delivery apps because I thought they sounded like scams I was wrong theyre scams for the customers and the delivery people while the company pockets
most of the money

Mia_K97 posted...

It's not Door Dash's or my responsibility to give out handouts. Take that out with a government assistance program.

Quick question, have you considered shutting the fuck up?

DarkBuster22904 posted...

The difference is that, unlike a waitress, there's absolutely nothing the driver can do.

Is a food item missing? Most restaurants are tying or otherwise sealing their bags, and drivers are explicitly not allowed to open the bags to check them on pickup. It's meant to prevent tampering, theft, contamination, etc. Sucks, but other than reading the receipt there's basically nothing that the driver is allowed to do. They will get immediately deactivated if a customer reports their food bag was opened.

Wrong order? Sucks, and the driver should be dinged, but there's absolutely no point in sending the driver back to pick up an order that 1) was already marked as picked up on the restaurant's side, and thus thrown away, or 2) cold as hell in the best case.

Delivered to the wrong place? Again, shit move and the driver should be punished. But the driver isn't going to go back and get it. Especially since there's a decently hight chance whoever it was left with now has it, and probably won't just give it back. That's a potentially dangerous confrontation waiting to happen.

I get that it sucks, but after the delivery is done, there's basically nothing more a driver can or should do. It's down to the app's support to make it right. Unless you just want to yell at the driver. Which is exactly why they don't take communication after delivery.

Sure, you cant go in the bag (which in itself is a different problem). But you can at least make sure the right person gets it. Which would require more care when actually delivering it It might take a little longer, but its literally the one thing you have to do correctly And because you cant communicate, the driver probably doesnt care much about doing their job right. Door dash could re-order the food and send you to do a better job this time, but Door dash just refunds the customer while still letting the driver fuck up elsewhere

FLAMING_EVIL_HOMER posted...

Lol idk why other people get so mad and try to call restaurants or their driver but im just okay with the refunds they give and leave it at that.

I would think because they are hungry

mybbqrules posted...

If you're too fucking lazy to go pick it up yourself, you don't really need it.

I've never used a food delivery service and I never will.

Not true at all Some people have reasons why they cant pick it up. Like work, watching a bunch of kids, injured, etc Not being able to pick it up isnt always laziness, nor does it mean they dont really need it

I dont waste money on those shitty services, either But Im not going to shit on people who do

Lunar_Savage posted...

I agree that drivers should be paid better. But that's not the reality we're living in. Until it is, no fucking sympathy for cheapskates abusing a system.

They are abusing the system. They probably just dont have the money to pay double the price of what they thought it would be

LinkPizza posted...

I would think because they are hungry

I understand that, but stuff like calling the restaurant or trying to call the driver is a waste of energy because they arent gonna do anything. Better to order something else quick so you can get food quicker or go out and get something. Then report your missing items and get your refund through app.

And it really isnt a scam since people using them know how over priced the food is and aware of all the fees at checkout.
Where they go, i couldnt care less.
Im sure they have employees they have to pay who work the app and customer service or something too.

FLAMING_EVIL_HOMER posted...

I understand that, but stuff like calling the restaurant or trying to call the driver is a waste of energy because they arent gonna do anything. Better to order something else quick so you can get food quicker or go out and get something. Then report your missing items and get your refund through app.

And it really isnt a scam since people using them know how over priced the food is and aware of all the fees at checkout.
Where they go, i couldnt care less.
Im sure they have employees they have to pay who work the app and customer service or something too.

Some else mentioned this, I believe. But it could be a heat of the moment thing And may not know that they cant do anything about it And while you say to order something else, to them, that probably sounds like a bad idea since the whole problem is from trying to order something. Plus, it would suck if the same driver made the same stupid mistake again by accepting the next request, as well

I actively avoid tipping places.

FLAMING_EVIL_HOMER posted...

I understand that, but stuff like calling the restaurant or trying to call the driver is a waste of energy because they arent gonna do anything. Better to order something else quick so you can get food quicker or go out and get something. Then report your missing items and get your refund through app.

And it really isnt a scam since people using them know how over priced the food is and aware of all the fees at checkout.
Where they go, i couldnt care less.
Im sure they have employees they have to pay who work the app and customer service or something too.

The drivers sometimes drive by the area so they can pretend they delivered so they can steal the food. The apps won't give a refund since it will show up as delivered.

Revelation34 posted...

The drivers sometimes drive by the area so they can pretend they delivered so they can steal the food. The apps won't give a refund since it will show up as delivered.

Has it happened to you?
I get refunds on stuff thats been delivered. Doordash seems to be very liberal with their refunds.

Tipping is wrong. Most of the world does not tip. Pay your workers so I don't have to tip. Don't tell me not to be cheap. You don't be cheap, restaurant owners

FLAMING_EVIL_HOMER posted...

Has it happened to you?
I get refunds on stuff thats been delivered. Doordash seems to be very liberal with their refunds.

I don't know about Doordash but it happens with UberEats.

Zikten posted...

Tipping is wrong. Most of the world does not tip. Pay your workers so I don't have to tip. Don't tell me not to be cheap. You don't be cheap, restaurant owners

Technically, when people use those apps, they are already paying twice the price of what they are looking for before tips I wouldnt call that being cheap

LinkPizza posted...

Technically, when people use those apps, they are already paying twice the price of what they are looking for before tips I wouldnt call that being cheap

On just eat in the UK, you pay the same price plus delivery and a 50p fee. Delivery is anywhere between free or 4 (Most places around here it's 2)

Giving money= non taxable

Tipping=taxable.

I mean if you want to be cheap then to pick up your own food. People driving for these apps are just trying to make a living. Same as everyone else. Especially with the price of gas nowadays. Anyone who orders food and doesnt tip is a shitbag.

I do pick up my own food Cleo. I walk in and order.

MI4_REAL posted...

I do pick up my own food Cleo. I walk in and order.

I actually havent read through this topic. My comment was towards the OP not anyone specifically.

Neither have I.

Conflict posted...

Yes, that's what happens to non-tippers when there's literally only one courier in the entire city. This is not something that would happen literally anywhere else

Like lol talk about a clickbait topic title

There's no way the story is real since a Subway sandwich wouldn't cost that much.

Revelation34 posted...

There's no way the story is real since a Subway sandwich wouldn't cost that much.

This is also true. $80 for three subs is unreasonable. I order from there, and use to to work there, and that amount doesnt make sense at all

Revelation34 posted...

The drivers sometimes drive by the area so they can pretend they delivered so they can steal the food. The apps won't give a refund since it will show up as delivered.

Imagine pre-tipping and you end up not getting your food

Trying to post a screenshot of me ordering the most expe sive sub on subway with all the addons on doordash and it is around 80$

So story could realistically be true if we use the doordash price.

Capitalism at work

Mew posted...

Imagine pre-tipping and you end up not getting your food

"Hurr durr just call the corporate office" yeah ok I still don't get my fucking food tho

CARRRNE_ASADA posted...

Something tells me the business wouldnt be viable cause it would cost soo much to order and the volume of orders would be very low.

The founders always knew the business wasn't viable outside of the gig economy. That's the whole point of the gig economy, to circumvent labor laws and unions. Might as well call it the scab economy.

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It actually does. And all they actually require is for you to submit a picture. If a dasher steals the food the customer can report it and get refunded. The driver can just say he didn't do it, and the app will take his side too.

They give zero fucks on either end because they're getting there money from the restaurant itself.

FLAMING_EVIL_HOMER posted...

Trying to post a screenshot of me ordering the most expe sive sub on subway with all the addons on doordash and it is around 80$

So story could realistically be true if we use the doordash price.

The story mentioned the Subway worker stating the $80 price which means that would be before Doordash fees.

FLAMING_EVIL_HOMER posted...

Trying to post a screenshot of me ordering the most expe sive sub on subway with all the addons on doordash and it is around 80$

So story could realistically be true if we use the doordash price.

Yeah. We know with DD prices it would work. But not without

It never specified the price on the original reddit post from what i saw and a lot of people were placing doubts based on the price so i just wanted to check.
Everything else we, we are just assuming they could have meant regular subway price before doordash and etc. I didnt read the thread other then the screenshot.
But with doordash and etc, the price is about 80$ before the tip.

FLAMING_EVIL_HOMER posted...

It never specified the price on the original reddit post from what i saw and a lot of people were placing doubts based on the price so i just wanted to check.
Everything else we, we are just assuming they could have meant regular subway price before doordash and etc. I didnt read the thread other then the screenshot.
But with doordash and etc, the price is about 80$ before the tip.

While its true that the original never stated whether it was with it without the DD price, chances are it was without. The reason is that it wouldnt make sense for the GF to give the price of the subs with DD. She works at subway, and not DD. So shed most likely give the Subway price. She could have given DD prices, but that would only be if she knew it was DD. It could have been DD, UberEats, Grubhub, etc Or it could have just been a normal online order that could have had a person coming to pick it up themselves

Tipping shouldn't be a thing

FLAMING_EVIL_HOMER posted...

It never specified the price on the original reddit post from what i saw and a lot of people were placing doubts based on the price so i just wanted to check.
Everything else we, we are just assuming they could have meant regular subway price before doordash and etc. I didnt read the thread other then the screenshot.
But with doordash and etc, the price is about 80$ before the tip.

How would the Subway worker know the Doordash price?