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CryoForceOmelet
06/15/22 12:28:46 AM
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If fuel companies lower them, the government should institute taxes putting them back to $5+. People should feel the impact that locomotion has on climate change in their wallets. Basically fuel should be treated like cigarette taxes.

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-Komaiko54-
06/15/22 12:31:34 AM
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CryoForceOmelet posted...
People should feel the impact that locomotion has on climate change in their wallets. Basically fuel should be treated like cigarette taxes.

Respectfully stop talking. That exact line of reasoning is why gas prices are so high in the first place.

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emblem boy
06/15/22 12:31:35 AM
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Yeah, but what politician will put their name to that

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Lost_All_Senses
06/15/22 12:32:15 AM
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CryoForceOmelet posted...
People should feel the impact that locomotion has on climate change in their wallets

Id agree with this if it didn't effect people who need to work jobs they don't really get to choose what they want. And those jobs usually assume they're accessible with use of a car. If they're not, they'll probably move on of you can't ge as accessible as they want. And the gas prices effects the underpaid already too.

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CryoForceOmelet
06/15/22 12:33:14 AM
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-Komaiko54- posted...
Respectfully stop talking. That exact line of reasoning is why gas prices are so high in the first place.
Seems like pretty good line of reasoning. Policy should punish inefficiencies like suburbs far from work centers, the people partaking in that should pay the real cost of the luxury.

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ThePrinceFish
06/15/22 12:33:35 AM
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Yeah because fuel prices don't impact the prices of food and literally everything else that is shipped by truck.

Let alone the "fuck poor people who have to drive to work" attitude.

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HovaRex
06/15/22 12:36:36 AM
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Bro. Shut the fuck up.

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CryoForceOmelet
06/15/22 12:39:50 AM
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Look you can say all you want how paying more for gas hurts people's wallets, obviously that's true, but whats that compared to the billions of people living on the equator who are going to become climate refugees if there's no direct funded action against global warming? The first world needs to take responsibility for its oversized carbon footprint.

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__aCEr__
06/15/22 12:39:50 AM
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Average Joe has very little say in city-planning and public transportation availability. Of course we should be moving away from fossil fuels but having politicians intentionally fucking over the people who are needed in order for the country to function isn't exactly a smart move.

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Heartomaton
06/15/22 12:40:28 AM
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Nope, because even though your heart's (mostly) in the right place, that idea is fucking stupid. Our use of fossil fuels is so ingrained into how our country operates that doing what you suggest would break it even more than it already is.

What should happen is that we focus on developing the alternatively-powered vehicles we already have to be better and more widely available as well as affordable, and trying to find all-new methods of transportation that don't cause as much harm.

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Smackems
06/15/22 12:41:07 AM
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Lmao

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CryoForceOmelet
06/15/22 12:41:41 AM
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Heartomaton posted...
What should happen is that we focus on developing the alternatively-powered vehicles we already have to be better and more widely available as well as affordable, and trying to find all-new methods of transportation that don't cause as much harm.
People aren't going to switch without incentive to. There's a reason we've used gas, it works really well.

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Imit8m3
06/15/22 12:43:34 AM
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Americas love affair with cars was a mistake. Nowadays you need to use a car, shipping everything by truck is needed and infrastructure reflects this fact. We will need to completely change how we live to make mass transit viable. Or replace all the gas vehicles with electric ones AND all the infrastructure that that would require. But thats not exactly possible with our current technology. Were stuck.

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BuIIyMaguire
06/15/22 12:43:44 AM
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This sounds like something a college freshman who thinks hes a genius at politics after reading an article would say.

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CryoForceOmelet
06/15/22 12:44:32 AM
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BuIIyMaguire posted...
This sounds like something a college freshman who thinks hes a genius at politics after reading an article would say.
The classic rebuttal from someone with no solutions to a problem!

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__aCEr__
06/15/22 12:45:16 AM
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The incentive should be more tax credits for EVs and other alternative energy sources. Not adding taxes to a commodity that for now is essential.

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Heartomaton
06/15/22 12:45:35 AM
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CryoForceOmelet posted...
People aren't going to switch without incentive to. There's a reason we've used gas, it works really well.

By that same logic, we'll use something that works better even more.

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WilliamPorygon
06/15/22 12:46:19 AM
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Possibly Darren Woods

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MabusIncarnate
06/15/22 12:49:07 AM
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__aCEr__ posted...
The incentive should be more tax credits for EVs and other alternative energy sources. Not adding taxes to a commodity that for now is essential.
I'd support this idea.

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Garioshi
06/15/22 12:52:32 AM
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You cannot survive in 95% of America without a car. All it does is punish the poor.

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Imit8m3
06/15/22 12:52:44 AM
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Theres also the problem of where our electricity comes from. Right now its mostly coal or natural gas. So replacing gas cars with electric ones doesnt do that much when its still being powered by a dirty power grid.

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Middle hope
06/15/22 12:54:39 AM
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Are people still afraid of nuclear power?

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Imit8m3
06/15/22 12:58:25 AM
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Middle hope posted...
Are people still afraid of nuclear power?
Did you know that the Japanese government has given the ok to dump millions of gallons of radioactive water into the ocean because they have no other option?
Even with modern reactors, accidents still happen. Knowing this, do you want a nuclear power plant in your back yard?

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Middle hope
06/15/22 1:02:03 AM
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Imit8m3 posted...
Did you know that the Japanese government has given the ok to dump millions of gallons of radioactive water into the ocean because they have no other option?
Even with modern reactors, accidents still happen. Knowing this, do you want a nuclear power plant in your back yard?
Yes. Put me on record saying so. Considering Michigan has had a nuclear plant for how long now? I'm not scared

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Crimson_Corsair
06/15/22 1:11:06 AM
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We should absolutely be dumping resources into modern nuclear power plants and spamming them out. They are safe and clean and I would be fine living next to one. Waste storage is fucking easy too, just hollow out a mountain. Alaska should utilize there massive swaths of land and mountains and build a bunch of plants, export the excess energy.

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Stallion_Prime
06/15/22 1:15:32 AM
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Do i have to handle TC?

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TheMikh
06/15/22 1:17:49 AM
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CryoForceOmelet posted...
If fuel companies lower them, the government should institute taxes putting them back to $5+. People should feel the impact that locomotion has on climate change in their wallets. Basically fuel should be treated like cigarette taxes.
this may very well be the most unabashedly privileged post i have ever read on this website

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TerraSeeker
06/15/22 1:45:28 AM
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People's representative are supposed to represent their interests not actively screw them over.

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Garioshi
06/15/22 1:56:36 AM
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Imit8m3 posted...
Did you know that the Japanese government has given the ok to dump millions of gallons of radioactive water into the ocean because they have no other option?
Even with modern reactors, accidents still happen. Knowing this, do you want a nuclear power plant in your back yard?
Yes, fuck off with your fearmongering.

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Paragon21XX
06/15/22 1:59:52 AM
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Hey, everyone! TC discriminates against the poor!

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WaterLink
06/15/22 2:01:29 AM
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"Hey guys, let's do something that the poor people will feel and be fucked over by the most, they're not suffering enough" - TC

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Arcanine2009
06/15/22 2:05:08 AM
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CryoForceOmelet posted...
The classic rebuttal from someone with no solutions to a problem!
You don't exactly have solutions.

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deoxxys
06/15/22 2:07:15 AM
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Garioshi posted...
You cannot survive in 95% of America without a car. All it does is punish the poor.


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L0Z
06/15/22 2:14:03 AM
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Fuel prices affect everything. Youre not going to wave a magic wand or tax fuel users to death just to push your agenda. Good luck engineering a plane that can fly more than an hour on battery power. Also mining and repurposing of lithium into batteries is damaging to the environment. And like 80% of the worlds energy is still a product of coal,oil and gas so your Tesla is still using polluting by using dirty energy
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CobraGT
06/15/22 2:17:24 AM
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Poor tax, though.

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