Current Events > Trump and the Right's obsession with Chicago is literally all about Obama lmao

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Trumps obsession with Obama is the only reason he ever name dropped Chicago. Then of course his radicalized base latched on.

Damn that tan suit

Who brought up Chicago? I only ever hear left wing people bring up the tan suit anymore.

TommyG663513 posted...

Who brought up Chicago? I only ever hear left wing people bring up the tan suit anymore.

I believe Trump did way before he was even running for president.

I think its based more on racism than Obama.

What obsession with Chicago?

SalsOwnAccount posted...

I believe Trump did way before he was even running for president.

No like right now. Did Trump say something recently? Did you just make this topic out of the blue?

Who is obsessed with who?

MabusIncarnate posted...

What obsession with Chicago?

https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/ news/texas-gov-greg-abbott-brings-up-chicago-violence- at-news-conference-on-school-massacre/

When school shootings happen, Republicans tend to point to Chicago and say "yOuR sIdE dOeS iT tOo!!!" like the brainwashed chuds they are

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What is this post supposed to be?

Rathinor posted...

When school shootings happen, Republicans tend to point to Chicago and say "yOuR sIdE dOeS iT tOo!!!" like the brainwashed chuds they are

I mean, we should be focused on Chicago, but everyone seems to ignore it. Left wing barely ever talks about it and right wing only uses it as a deflection.

Though to be fair, gang violence is simply a more complicated problem not that school shootings are anywhere near simple.

Like 99% of ammosexuals immediately scream CHICAGO whenever confronted with ways to enact stricter gun laws. Its constant so thats why this topic exists.

MabusIncarnate posted...

What obsession with Chicago?

Basically how the Conservative cycle of arguments whenever there is a mass shooting goes as follows:

Pray that the shooter is black, undocumented, or Muslim.
Send "Thoughts and Prayers"
"This isn't the time to talk about Politics/Policy"
Talk about Mental Health
Suggest every solution other than common sense gun reform.
Bring up Chicago as the example that heavy gun restriction does not work.
Hope the argument dies down after a few weeks.

And then another mass shooting happens.

bigblu89 posted...

Basically how the Conservative cycle of arguments whenever there is a mass shooting goes as follows:

Pray that the shooter is black, undocumented, or Muslim.
Send "Thoughts and Prayers"
"This isn't the time to talk about Politics/Policy"
Talk about Mental Health
Suggest every solution other than common sense gun reform.
Bring up Chicago as the example that heavy gun restriction does not work.
Hope the argument dies down after a few weeks.

And then another mass shooting happens.

Republicans are simple minded creatures

So does anyone ever actually care about Chicago?

Just seems like it gets ignored because no easy solution for it really exists.

TommyG663513 posted...

So does anyone ever actually care about Chicago?

Just seems like it gets ignored because no easy solution for it really exists.

It doesn't get ignored. Conservatives just like to ignore the ongoing efforts to improve things in Chicago while at the same time bringing up Chicago at every time there is a discussion of acts of violence committed by conservatives.

CableZL posted...

It doesn't get ignored. Conservatives just like to ignore the ongoing efforts to improve things in Chicago while at the same time bringing up Chicago at every time there is a discussion of acts of violence committed by conservatives.

What ongoing efforts are there to improve things in Chicago? I've never gotten the impression that there has been much change in the situation over there.

I think Chicago really started getting brought up a lot cause they had like 50 murders In a weekend like 6 years ago.

TommyG663513 posted...

Who brought up Chicago? I only ever hear left wing people bring up the tan suit anymore.

Can you get purg'd again?

Chicago isn't even that bad compared to other cities, definitely because of Obama they fixate on it so much

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/1/9/AAUNNIAADTEH.jpg

CableZL posted...

It doesn't get ignored. Conservatives just like to ignore the ongoing efforts to improve things in Chicago while at the same time bringing up Chicago at every time there is a discussion of acts of violence committed by conservatives.

Let's not pretend like he actually cares about Chicago in the first place.

TommyG663513 posted...

What ongoing efforts are there to improve things in Chicago? I've never gotten the impression that there has been much change in the situation over there.

It's easy to get the impression that there are no efforts to improve things in Chicago if you just never look them up.

https://www.chicagocares.org/s/our-approach
https://www.chicagocred.org/
https://www.chicago.gov/city/en/depts/mayor/press_room/press_releases/2022/may/RippleEffectCampaignGunViolenceAwarenessMonth.html
https://www.ipr.northwestern.edu/news/2021/addressing-chicagos-unfathomable-violence.html
https://abc7chicago.com/stop-the-violence-resources-chicago-in/3894299/

Looks like @TommyG663513 fell for right wing propoganda!

Tmaster148 posted...

Let's not pretend like he actually cares about Chicago in the first place.

Yeah, I'm not deluded enough to think he's discussing this in good faith. His talking points ITT follow a common pattern when it comes to discussing Chicago. It's just mildly entertaining to go through this tired-ass progression and see his "logic" fall apart quickly.

CableZL posted...

It's easy to get the impression that there are no efforts to improve things in Chicago if you just never look them up.

https://www.chicagocares.org/s/our-approach
https://www.chicagocred.org/
https://www.chicago.gov/city/en/depts/mayor/press_room/press_releases/2022/may/RippleEffectCampaignGunViolenceAwarenessMonth.html
https://www.ipr.northwestern.edu/news/2021/addressing-chicagos-unfathomable-violence.html
https://abc7chicago.com/stop-the-violence-resources-chicago-in/3894299/

Yeah. This is kind of like the disingenuous arguments whenever someone talks about police violence towards minorities, and the counter is always "Well, what are they doing to curb all the black on black crime?" while completely ignoring the hundreds of programs currently operating to help pull minorities out of poverty in a effort to stop some of the inner city violence.

Rathinor posted...

Looks like @TommyG663513 fell for right wing propoganda!

But how can that be when he's so liberal?

CableZL posted...

Yeah, I'm not deluded enough to think he's discussing this in good faith. His talking points ITT follow a common pattern when it comes to discussing Chicago. It's just mildly entertaining to go through this tired-ass progression and see his "logic" fall apart quickly.

@CableZL

There is no logic that I am pushing. I asked questions and you provided links. You made a fair point. That was a good response on you.

This one though is pretty off putting. Wtf is up with the people on these boards always accusing someone of right wing BS? It happens over and over again over basically nothing. This and the politics board do it constantly.

TommyG663513 posted...

@CableZL

There is no logic that I am pushing. I asked questions and you provided links. You made a fair point. That was a good response on you.

This one though is pretty off putting. Wtf is up with the people on these boards always accusing someone of right wing BS? It happens over and over again over basically nothing. This and the politics board do it constantly.

So first I'd like to make sure your question of:
TommyG663513 posted...

Who brought up Chicago?

was answered. If not I'm sure we can provide more examples

As to your question of "Wtf is up with the people on these boards always accusing someone of right wing BS?", I can't speak for everyone or every accusation, but you have a history of asking questions/making statements that closely mirror right wing talking points ("just asking questions" etc)

A lot of Americans were radicalized in recent years so of course bringing that up will happen more.

SalsOwnAccount posted...

A lot of Americans were radicalized in recent years so of course bringing that up will happen more.

It just seems like the radicalized people have mostly taken over CE and the politics board and all that happens is people complain about Republicans. Then anyone who offers any sort of very mildly not completely on the bandwagon stance then it gets called alt right.

Like no one comes here for discussion. Just admit that you want something of an echo chamber and/or a place to let out your aggression on a perceived political enemy.

No, it's just racism.

TommyG663513 posted...

What is this post supposed to be?

You've demonstrated you're a person we can't have reasonable or intelligent discussions with.

TommyG663513 posted...

It just seems like the radicalized people have mostly taken over CE and the politics board and all that happens is people complain about Republicans. Then anyone who offers any sort of very mildly not completely on the bandwagon stance then it gets called alt right.

Like no one comes here for discussion. Just admit that you want something of an echo chamber and/or a place to let out your aggression on a perceived political enemy.

Wait youre implying the liberals are the ones radicalized? Lorfma.

SalsOwnAccount posted...

Wait youre implying the liberals are the ones radicalized? Lorfma.

Meanwhile, the majority of Trumpists are brainwashed enough to believe he won

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/01/07/republicans-big-lie-trump/

MabusIncarnate posted...

What obsession with Chicago?

Any time people are speaking about police crime or a bad stuff happening to black people. There are some people who will bring up Chicago. What about Chicago.

All the right can do is deflect. They have no real answers besides just letting many people die. Same goes for every other issue. They have no answers because they want no answers. They want life to stay same: miserable and awful for everyone except the rich.

I got in a Twitter argument with an ammosexual and literally every time I said well how can we stop kids from getting shot in school he would say buuuuuuut Chicago. Which then gets played into that since I dont also care about Chicago as much as I do kids executed in school then Im racist and dont really care about kids.

SalsOwnAccount posted...

Wait youre implying the liberals are the ones radicalized? Lorfma.

No you just see them on this board. This board is full of radicalized left wing people.

You don't have to look far elsewhere to see right wing people who were radicalized. They tend to like flying flags from their trucks.

Damn near everyone and/or every group has become more radicalized. This board just skews so heavily left so you really only see radical left people as opposed to right people on this board.

TommyG663513 posted...

No you just see them on this board. This board is full of radicalized left wing people.

You don't have to look far elsewhere to see right wing people who were radicalized. They tend to like flying flags from their trucks.

Damn near everyone and/or every group has become more radicalized. This board just skews so heavily left so you really only see radical left people as opposed to right people on this board.

Ah, same thing both sides DDIQ nonsense

TommyG663513 posted...

@CableZL

There is no logic that I am pushing. I asked questions and you provided links. You made a fair point. That was a good response on you.

This one though is pretty off putting. Wtf is up with the people on these boards always accusing someone of right wing BS? It happens over and over again over basically nothing. This and the politics board do it constantly.

Because the answers to the questions you're asking can be easily researched without having to engage with discussions/arguments/disagreements like the one that you are encountering in this thread.

Questions like:

What ongoing efforts are there to improve things in Chicago? I've never gotten the impression that there has been much change in the situation over there.

So it leads many to believe the questions are being asked for no reason other than to be an agitator.

TommyG663513 posted...

Wtf is up with the people on these boards always accusing someone of right wing BS? It happens over and over again over basically nothing. This and the politics board do it constantly.

You asked this:

TommyG663513 posted...

I mean, we should be focused on Chicago, but everyone seems to ignore it.

This is a right wing talking point through and through. Everyone doesn't ignore it as we've already shown. Conservatives just think it's ignored because all they hear about Chicago is right wing media talking about the shootings that happen while at the same time deliberately ignoring the work being done in the community.

You could have easily looked up information about Chicago's community work, but you didn't. You just went along with the right wing talking about that "everyone seems to ignore it."

TommyG663513 posted...

Who brought up Chicago

TommyG663513 posted...

I mean, we should be focused on Chicago, but everyone seems to ignore it. Left wing barely ever talks about it and right wing only uses it as a deflection.

erm...

Hinakuluiau posted...

Chicago isn't even that bad compared to other cities, definitely because of Obama they fixate on it so much

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/1/9/AAUNNIAADTEH.jpg

St Luis WTF?

UnfairRepresent posted...

erm...

Yeah you clearly quoted my posts out of order and without context so good luck with that

CableZL posted...

You asked this:

This is a right wing talking point through and through. Everyone doesn't ignore it as we've already shown. Conservatives just think it's ignored because all they hear about Chicago is right wing media talking about the shootings that happen while at the same time deliberately ignoring the work being done in the community.

You could have easily looked up information about Chicago's community work, but you didn't. You just went along with the right wing talking about that "everyone seems to ignore it."

People have topic and topics every week here about mass shootings, but nothing about Chicago.

So no it isn't a right wing talking point to ask why people don't ever talk about it on here despite it supposedly being important

TommyG663513 posted...

People have topic and topics every week here about mass shootings, but nothing about Chicago.

So no it isn't a right wing talking point to ask why people don't ever talk about it on here despite it supposedly being important

Why Chicago specifically and not those other cities with much higher murder rates?

Obama the inventor of Chicago

TommyG663513 posted...

People have topic and topics every week here about mass shootings, but nothing about Chicago.

So no it isn't a right wing talking point to ask why people don't ever talk about it on here despite it supposedly being important

So is your point that "everyone ignores it," or "I don't see topics on CE about it, so I'm assuming no one talks about it"

There are plenty of other cities with frequent shootings that don't get topics on CE. Your incessant need to focus on Chicago is absolutely a right wing thing.

bigblu89 posted...

Because the answers to the questions you're asking can be easily researched without having to engage with discussions/arguments/disagreements like the one that you are encountering in this thread.

Questions like:

So it leads many to believe the questions are being asked for no reason other than to be an agitator.

Um no wtf.

Answer the question or don't. Don't accuse someone of being an agitator unless you have good evidence.

Damn near all this board does is whine about Republicans and accusing people of being a secret pro Republican troll. People on this board have completely warped perceptions.