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ChaosTonyV4
03/20/22 5:24:48 PM
#301:


https://thehill.com/policy/international/europe/598952-zelensky-says-ukrainian-political-parties-linked-to-russia-banned

I dunno man, this seems like a bad response to a very bad situation.

inb4 red posts some snickering shit and doesnt explain why he disagrees

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red13n
03/20/22 5:29:11 PM
#302:


Just go give some donations to the Taliban, Tony.

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xp1337
03/20/22 5:39:44 PM
#303:


I actually think it depends on what is meant by "linked." Funded by? I mean, given there is a literal military invasion that actually seems not entirely unreasonable. Just genuine supporters then yeah that's not good.

All this of course in the context of "active military invasion to destroy the state." I know history doesn't show a great track record on such measures being dropped once implemented but I also think you have to admit there's a rather unique context in Ukraine right now.

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masterplum
03/20/22 5:40:07 PM
#304:


Tony, what is your objective in posting that.

I also saw that headline earlier and didn't find it worth sharing. I'm curious why you do

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Mr Lasastryke
03/20/22 6:14:38 PM
#305:


masterplum posted...
Tony, what is your objective in posting that.

I also saw that headline earlier and didn't find it worth sharing. I'm curious why you do

he really likes the hill for some reason

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ChaosTonyV4
03/20/22 6:45:55 PM
#306:


red13n posted...
Just go give some donations to the Taliban, Tony.

Called it.

masterplum posted...
Tony, what is your objective in posting that.

I also saw that headline earlier and didn't find it worth sharing. I'm curious why you do

One of the banned opposition parties has 55 elected seats in parliament, and while they have been supporters of Russiaits important to note that a full third of Ukrainians speak Russian as their primary language , their leader literally came out and said the Russian invasion is wrong and should be stopped.

Itd be exactly like if Hamas attacked the US and the President banned every politician who said we should support Palestine.

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ChaosTonyV4
03/20/22 6:51:06 PM
#307:


https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-joe-biden-only-on-ap-middle-east-government-and-politics-8417ab720a42826a5e14f2dd31ff4fc8

51% of Democrats say the patty should support Palestine more, so yeah, imagine if Trump banned the Democrats using my previous example. Would that be a good thing? I argue no.

xp1337 posted...
I actually think it depends on what is meant by "linked." Funded by? I mean, given there is a literal military invasion that actually seems not entirely unreasonable. Just genuine supporters then yeah that's not good.

All this of course in the context of "active military invasion to destroy the state." I know history doesn't show a great track record on such measures being dropped once implemented but I also think you have to admit there's a rather unique context in Ukraine right now.

Also yeah, this is all true, and I think the reasonable position is Hmmm, this doesnt seem great rather than Wow if youre against this go support the Taliban

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Leafeon13N
03/20/22 8:14:28 PM
#308:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Called it
Actually i find your position on this one perfectly reasonable though this is without giving the issue more than a cursory glance.

I was just making light of your spoilered text.
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ChaosTonyV4
03/20/22 8:26:14 PM
#309:


Fuck, got my ass

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FFDragon
03/20/22 8:35:52 PM
#310:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Fuck [...] my ass


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LordoftheMorons
03/21/22 10:58:03 PM
#311:


https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/21/politics/eric-greitens-abuse-accusations-missouri-senate-candidate/index.html

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red sox 777
03/22/22 3:56:31 AM
#312:


At this point I view allegations against politicians with an even higher degree of skepticism than usual (and innocent until proven guilty is a very high level of skepticism of accusations).

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LordoftheMorons
03/22/22 4:27:17 AM
#313:


This isn't the first time he's been accused of something like this

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xp1337
03/22/22 5:32:42 PM
#314:


Over at KBJ's confirmation hearing, Republicans lining up their next targets after Roe.

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1506303303239491586

So, Obergefell and Griswold were the obvious picks but now we have a sitting GOP Senator saying SCOTUS was wrong in deciding Loving to make interracial marriage legal nationally and that it should have been left to the individual states.

https://twitter.com/nkellyatJG/status/1506350898913685511

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Maniac64
03/22/22 6:05:22 PM
#315:


It's like a reverse slippery slope. "If I argue against gay marriage being decided nationally I should also argue against interracial marriage being decided nationally!"

Conservatives were worried allowing gay marriage would lead to child brides, turns out it might be the other way and it will instead be state's rights doing it./s

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Xeybozn
03/22/22 6:14:01 PM
#316:


Maniac64 posted...
Conservatives were worried allowing gay marriage would lead to child brides

Funny, most states already had legal child marriage before legal gay marriage. And whenever states try to outlaw child marriage, conservatives are against it for some reason.

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LordoftheMorons
03/22/22 6:16:04 PM
#317:


I was coming here to post the Braun thing. Insane.

On the subject, while the swing in approval of gay marriage was pretty extreme, check out the swing in approval of interracial marriage:
https://news.gallup.com/poll/354638/approval-interracial-marriage-new-high.aspx

From 4% to 94% over 50 years

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TheRock1525
03/22/22 6:29:34 PM
#318:


LordoftheMorons posted...
I was coming here to post the Braun thing. Insane.

On the subject, while the swing in approval of gay marriage was pretty extreme, check out the swing in approval of interracial marriage:
https://news.gallup.com/poll/354638/approval-interracial-marriage-new-high.aspx

From 4% to 94% over 50 years

xkcd pointed out how it took nearly 30 years between legalization nationally and majority approval.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/9/0/AAAxOoAADDje.jpg

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KamikazePotato
03/22/22 7:14:46 PM
#319:


Timeline statistics like that make a lot of sense when you realize it's just about old people being replaced. People don't change, they just die, and a newer less bigoted generation is born.

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TheRock1525
03/22/22 8:54:53 PM
#320:


KamikazePotato posted...
Timeline statistics like that make a lot of sense when you realize it's just about old people being replaced. People don't change, they just die, and a newer less bigoted generation is born.

We only "replace" around 1% of the population every year, so a lot of it is still people changing their minds. The massive shift on gay marriage since its legalization to today would only be roughly 7% "churn."

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masterplum
03/22/22 8:54:55 PM
#321:


KamikazePotato posted...
Timeline statistics like that make a lot of sense when you realize it's just about old people being replaced. People don't change, they just die, and a newer less bigoted generation is born.

That isn't completely true. Exposure is shown to soften views

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Peace___Frog
03/23/22 11:50:13 AM
#322:


https://twitter.com/kilonova_gold/status/1506245934254075907?t=SDqRLV4bheRKGLZz_DpPsw&s=19

Basically, Thomas has been paid under the table and not disclosed it. If we can't get rid of him and he won't get rid of himself, then our only way to combat this corruption is to install justices who aren't corrupt.

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Jakyl25
03/23/22 1:43:24 PM
#323:


<img src="//:0">https://twitter.com/tayfromca/status/1506604159016919040?s=21

lol

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masterplum
03/23/22 2:13:58 PM
#324:


Brooks further claimed in his statement that Trump asked me to rescind the 2020 elections, immediately remove Joe Biden from the White House, immediately put President Trump back in the White House, and hold a new special election for the presidency.

Haha what the hell?

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Jakyl25
03/23/22 4:26:43 PM
#325:


Clearly hes woke

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ChaosTonyV4
03/24/22 2:43:11 PM
#326:


https://twitter.com/bfriedmandc/status/1507007106741768201?s=21

lmfao

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masterplum
03/24/22 2:46:59 PM
#327:


haha

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CaptainOfCrush
03/24/22 3:04:32 PM
#328:


masterplum posted...
That isn't completely true. Exposure is shown to soften views
Yeah, gay marriage ballots were losing decisively in liberal places like Oregon as recently as 2004.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Oregon_Ballot_Measure_36

The shift in public opinion being so swift (compared to interracial marriage) is obviously welcomed, but it also paints a sad picture as to just how shitty race relations have always been in this country.

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Leafeon13N
03/24/22 3:37:00 PM
#329:


CaptainOfCrush posted...
Yeah, gay marriage ballots were losing decisively in liberal places like Oregon as recently as 2004.
Yeah 2008 was the big one with prop 8 in California. And it wasn't like it was boosted by just the typically conservative parts of the state.
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StealThisSheen
03/24/22 4:33:18 PM
#330:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
https://twitter.com/bfriedmandc/status/1507007106741768201?s=21

lmfao

This is the best thing

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Peace___Frog
03/24/22 5:39:17 PM
#331:


https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1507106706672783364?t=leEpZqSABBM_NJ9Ua_L8uQ&s=19

More corruption from Thomas

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masterplum
03/24/22 6:12:52 PM
#332:


I mean it's not good, but its his wife not him.

You don't get thrown in jail for things your spouse does

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hockeydude15
03/24/22 6:18:53 PM
#333:


But he should be taken off of the SC if he is also in support of things like the insurrection and overturning the election.

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masterplum
03/24/22 6:30:34 PM
#334:


hockeydude15 posted...
But he should be taken off of the SC if he is also in support of things like the insurrection and overturning the election.

Oh sure, but his wife being there isn't proof of that

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Paratroopa1
03/24/22 6:31:15 PM
#335:


Do we even know if Clarence Thomas is still alive yet
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hockeydude15
03/24/22 6:44:22 PM
#336:


masterplum posted...
Oh sure, but his wife being there isn't proof of that
Not yet no, but stuff like being the only one to vote no to release docs to the 1/6 committee while your wife was a part of the whole thing is definitely shady.

Don't get me wrong, it could come out tomorrow that he was actively trying to help get the election overthrown and nothing would happen. Any case to get him off the court would stall till midterms and then die afterwards when Republicans take one of the houses.

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HeroicCrono
03/24/22 6:49:19 PM
#337:


They would have to impeach him, and there's no way the Senate convicts.

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MoogleKupo141
03/24/22 6:59:22 PM
#338:


Paratroopa1 posted...
Do we even know if Clarence Thomas is still alive yet

hes alive until they say hes dead

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Dancedreamer
03/24/22 7:20:59 PM
#339:


masterplum posted...
Oh sure, but his wife being there isn't proof of that

The fact he didn't disclose it, and didn't recuse himself from the case regarding releasing Jan 6 documents is reason enough to remove him from the supreme court. But at this point, the Senate wouldn't convict him if he shot someone on live television and bragged about receiving money from a corporation to decide how he'd vote on a case. Our supreme court is nothing more than a joke at this point. Our whole country is a circus of Ringmaster McConnell's making.

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Kenri
03/24/22 7:50:15 PM
#340:


Paratroopa1 posted...
Do we even know if Clarence Thomas is still alive yet
yeah I saw him with the queen of england yesterday

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Peace___Frog
03/24/22 8:01:34 PM
#341:


Dancedreamer posted...
The fact he didn't disclose it, and didn't recuse himself from the case regarding releasing Jan 6 documents is reason enough to remove him from the supreme court. But at this point, the Senate wouldn't convict him if he shot someone on live television and bragged about receiving money from a corporation to decide how he'd vote on a case. Our supreme court is nothing more than a joke at this point. Our whole country is a circus of Ringmaster McConnell's making.
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armitage999
03/25/22 8:54:53 AM
#343:


It feels like McConnell has been the true President of the United States since 2008.

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TheRock1525
03/25/22 9:38:35 AM
#344:


https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-news/utah-governor-becomes-latest-republican-veto-transgender-sports-ban-rcna21116

It would be nice to have less psycho Republicans like this guy.

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Paratroopa1
03/25/22 6:49:13 PM
#345:


TheRock1525 posted...
https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-news/utah-governor-becomes-latest-republican-veto-transgender-sports-ban-rcna21116

It would be nice to have less psycho Republicans like this guy.
Aaaaaaand the legislature overrode the veto.
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Maniac64
03/25/22 7:26:05 PM
#346:


And the guy will probably get primaried in his next election.

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TheRock1525
03/26/22 2:09:19 AM
#347:


Paratroopa1 posted...
Aaaaaaand the legislature overrode the veto.

Hopefully it ends up like the Idaho bill where it's been stuck in the courts for 2 years now.

I don't think Republicans realize this isn't a successful wedge issue. Last time they tried to target transgender people, it was through bathroom bills that blew up in their face.


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LinkMarioSamus
03/26/22 7:21:43 AM
#348:


Okay, what's the idea of the Don't Say Gay Bill? Is it *merely* meant to make K-2 teaching more transparent, or is it outright homophobic?

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xp1337
03/26/22 7:26:43 AM
#349:


LinkMarioSamus posted...
Okay, what's the idea of the Don't Say Gay Bill? Is it *merely* meant to make K-2 teaching more transparent, or is it outright homophobic?
the latter

I was going to leave at that, but honestly all you need to know is multiple amendments were offered, including one by a Republican, to clarify that it was only sexual content that was being prohibited for those grade levels and the GOP sponsor stated that such an amendment would severely gut the purpose of the bill and the GOP legislature subsequently killed those amendments.

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LinkMarioSamus
03/26/22 8:55:56 AM
#350:


Welp, Midnight's Edge lied then.

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Mr Lasastryke
03/26/22 9:12:08 AM
#351:


some alt-right pop culture youtube channel lied? why i never

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