Current Events > 31 y/o UNVAXXED Dying Dad Sobs UNCONTROLLABLY after he was DENIED an ORGAN!!

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MedeaLysistrata
01/26/22 2:08:03 AM
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Everyone knows if you post a news story it really happens

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Zikten
01/26/22 2:09:17 AM
#53:


His dad, (the grandpa) makes me really mad for encouraging him. Maybe he could be convinced to see reason but his family is cheering his decision on. Fuck everyone but the child
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buddhamonster
01/26/22 2:09:29 AM
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DepreceV2 posted...
Im not going to shed a tear for someone who chose their fate. Especially when its an easy action and not an addiction
In this I would say I kind of disagree, as he is addicted. Though his addiction isn't an easy one to pin down as say alcohol or heroin. It's not a literal drug you take, but rather, the media he consumes. A political identity devoid of reality that he can not kick. A religious set of ideas that he can't stop taking hits off.

Going onto twitter and facebook every day can absolutely result in addictive behavior. And in so doing, he got hooked on alt-right, sensationalist bullshit, and now he's paying the price.

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Philip027
01/26/22 2:10:32 AM
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I don't have sympathy here for anyone except his kid. Imagine having a father who cares so little about living and caring for you that they can't handle a couple of pokes.
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EnvoyOfTheLight
01/26/22 2:14:41 AM
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That explains your folly.

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Sayoria
01/26/22 2:21:49 AM
#57:


Philip027 posted...
I don't have sympathy here for anyone except his kid. Imagine having a father who cares so little about living and caring for you that they can't handle a couple of pokes.

Atleast he is owning the left.

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buddhamonster
01/26/22 2:24:00 AM
#58:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

It is 100% the hospitals call on who gets the extremely rare, extremely valuable organ.

If you have 100 people on a list, and only one organ available, the hospital should absolutely do a risk analysis of each patient and determine which ones have the absolute highest chance of survival in the long-term, as otherwise, you're essentially wasting the organ.

They even explain this to you the moment you're put on the list. He knew what the rules were. He fucked around with them. The hospital then rightly told him he was shit out of luck.


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TheMikh
01/26/22 2:31:16 AM
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i agree, but it's the beast of bureaucracy unfortunately. very cold, impersonal, inflexible, statistical - if that. hopefully other transplant options are made available to him outside this particular hospital, whether human, artificial, or heterologous.

Although if it were me, I'd 100% just take the vaccine to get the transplant, but that's just me.
same. i don't see a religious reason for such reservations, so given his situation it seems like a much clearer choice than most who have similar reservations.

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XxKrebsxX
01/26/22 2:34:23 AM
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What a selfish jackass.

Hes going to leave his wife widowed with two kids because hes an idiot.

Too bad he already procreated. I hope his kids learn this lesson early in life to not be idiots.
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Smackems
01/26/22 2:36:37 AM
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These poor people are ignorant and have been deceived. I hope he somehow gets better

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Umbreon
01/26/22 2:58:38 AM
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Smackems posted...
. I hope he somehow gets better

He won't.

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Smashingpmkns
01/26/22 3:00:22 AM
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The second guy on the list was probably like "yeah dude stand by your convictions lmao"

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Zikten
01/26/22 3:12:29 AM
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XxKrebsxX posted...
What a selfish jackass.

Hes going to leave his wife widowed with two kids because hes an idiot.

Too bad he already procreated. I hope his kids learn this lesson early in life to not be idiots.

His kids will probably be told he died a hero or a martyr. But maybe when they grow up they will figure out the truth and not continue his cycle
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KLouD_KoNNeCteD
01/26/22 3:15:50 AM
#65:


What a maroon.
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David1988
01/26/22 3:27:26 AM
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Eh you need all your shots to be approved for cadaveric transplants, not just the covid vaccine, they wouldnt let me on the list until I got my chickenpox vaccine which I had no idea wasnt mandatory as a kid anyway

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Teh_Dr_Phil
01/26/22 3:43:40 AM
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Puglia77 posted...
Oh no

Anyway


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EDF-5
01/26/22 4:16:34 AM
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;_;
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Gobstoppers12
01/26/22 4:18:41 AM
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Yeah, this is fair. Sucks to be him, but transplants are risky enough when you're not living in a pandemic without a vaccine.

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snowman9267
01/26/22 4:25:43 AM
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This guy is status 3 at the most if he's sitting in a chair with a swan, probably on mod/high level iv inotropes and medically managed for the rest. No chance he was near the top of the list unless he's got a vad hidden someplace in that pic. Also there's no (reputable) transplant program that would take him without all his vaccinations and him passing a list of evaluations including a psych evaluation. Dude is also going to take a bunch of necessary harmful meds to depress his immune system and keep his body from rejecting the donor heart for the rest of his life, if he can't even get a simple shot then he won't be trusted to stay on his medication regimen. The transplant patients both heart and kidney that I've taken care of would have crawled across a mile of hot broken glass and made pit stops on the way to suck dick to get that organ and take care of it. This guy is a bitchmade loser that I would bet thousands on being a failed case within 3 years for noncompliance anyway.

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UnfairRepresent
01/26/22 4:26:30 AM
#71:


Raikuro posted...
Willing to put a foreign organ and all kinds of drugs required for that process, but a vaccine is over the line?
I know right

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Machete
01/26/22 4:35:24 AM
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He is

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nfearurspecimn
01/26/22 4:38:47 AM
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Oh boo hoo. Get the shot you pansy.

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Kakapo
01/26/22 4:59:46 AM
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WorsCaseOntario posted...
Yikes at the callousness itt
Not really.

They dont give liver transplants to alcoholics who refuse to quit drinking.

They dont give heart transplants to people who wont quit smoking.

Organs are hard to come by, and why give the organ to someone who wont do everything they can to increase their own chances of survival?

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TwoDoorPC
01/26/22 5:06:46 AM
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oh look, someone else who thinks they know better than doctors

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SuperVegitoFAN
01/26/22 5:19:54 AM
#76:


Kakapo posted...
They dont give heart transplants to people who wont quit smoking.

Hell im pretty sure just HAVING been a smoker is likely to disquallify you as is.

Or at the very least lower priority dramatically.

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Lvaneede
01/26/22 5:22:50 AM
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No point wasting a good heart on someone who will die anyway

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Kloe_Rinz
01/26/22 6:38:13 AM
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nobodies explained how hes capable of getting a transplant surgery if hes incapable of getting a vaccine
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wallmasterz
01/26/22 7:00:44 AM
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Im responsible for taking care of thousands of cars on the verge of going to the junk yard. I cant help everyone. Should I give a souped up engine to the owner who already indicated they wont rotate their tires or get oil changes?

People have a choice to get the vaccine or not. I support the choice even though I think its totally dumb not to get it.

If you get a transplant, a regular cold can kill you. Therefore its negligent to the many others on the waiting list to give an organ to someone who is choosing not to mitigate a risk which is very common right now (due to the contagious nature of omicron).

Their goal is to add as much life as possible to the collective group, not solely cater to #1 on the list.

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_HayleyWilliams
01/26/22 7:35:34 AM
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The guy and people support him treat healthcare like they're making a custom order. "If I want it, just give it to me. It doesn't matter if it's weird or harder for you to make. The customer is always right!"

They think that if they're willing to take the risk, then the doctors should just do what they ask since they're throwing money at them. Reminds me of people at CVS that would demand a prescription be filled regardless if what was sent in was questionable/unclear, or dangerous with their other meds.

These "new" and "heartbreaking" stories exist not only because we politicized a vaccine, but also because we treat healthcare as capitalism. The customer is not always right. Your choice as a patient is that no one can force you to receive treatment or listen to a doctor, not that you can reject their terms and demand whatever you feel like, regardless of the position it puts the doctor in. Just because you accept an unnecessary risk of dying doesn't force the healthcare professionals to accept the risk of killing you.

Odd how a certain US senator that calls universal healthcare "slavery" likely is crying huge crocodile tears about how doctors aren't doing what a difficult patient is demanding.

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KainFourteh
01/26/22 7:35:46 AM
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He made the choice, he lived and died by it, such is his right.

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Jerry_Hellyeah
01/26/22 7:39:26 AM
#83:


There are people on the transplant list that love their children and value life.

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Ilishe
01/26/22 7:59:08 AM
#84:


It's so, so sad that people like this exist. Sad and infuriating.

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Ratchetrockon
01/26/22 8:07:30 AM
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Nice

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LightHawKnight
01/26/22 8:13:25 AM
#86:


TheMikh posted...
though i don't harbor a vitriolic attitude towards the unvaccinated like some (many) here, this is definitely a scenario where vaccination is important since transplant recipients are immunocompromised, inherently and/or from immunosuppressant medication.

it's regrettable that biotechnology isn't at a point where replacement organs are no longer a scarce commodity. didn't someone recently post an article here about someone receiving a pig heart transplant?

Question, do you not care about all the people the unvaxxcinated have killed? Why pity people who has helped covid spread more, mutate more, and take up hospital beds that could be spared so other people will have beds and wont die?

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DaTwistedGuns
01/26/22 8:13:29 AM
#87:


Raikuro posted...
Willing to put a foreign organ and all kinds of drugs required for that process, but a vaccine is over the line?
I would have to agree with this. Just seems silly if you're doing everything else.

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wallmasterz
01/26/22 8:24:40 AM
#88:


Jerry_Hellyeah posted...
There are people on the transplant list that love their children and value life.

True but should an organ be used on someone who is more likely to die in the next 2 years or someone with better odds to live 50? They cant base the decision on who to help just based on who values their life or loves their family. That applies to the vast majority.

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Dat_Cracka_Jax
01/26/22 8:36:16 AM
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What a dumbass.

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Stewman_Magoo
01/26/22 9:26:38 AM
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There's a fine line between bravery and stupidity... but this dude dove over the stupidity line and swam into the deep end of it.

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Giant_Aspirin
01/26/22 9:30:13 AM
#91:


Lebronwon posted...
https://twitter.com/jordanbpeterson/status/1486030242951176199

Peterson once again demonstrating he has no actual understanding of science or medicine

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Balnazarr
01/26/22 10:52:06 AM
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You're not very smart are you? The transplant destroys your immune system. Getting Covid will be a death sentence. They aren't giving a heart to someone who will not live long. Don't be stupid.
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Nemu
01/26/22 10:57:00 AM
#93:


On one very, very small hand, seems slightly weird unless there is correlating data that he has a high likelihood of death. On the other extremely large hand, even if you think it's going to turn you into a gay magnetic man or whatever nonsense they believe, wouldn't you rather be an alive gay magnetic man than a corpse?
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mrduckbear
01/26/22 5:51:14 PM
#94:


it's a slam dunk yes

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scorpion41
01/26/22 5:53:44 PM
#95:


So the hospital murdered him and people are okay with this?

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The Catgirl Fondler
01/26/22 5:54:53 PM
#96:


Get.

Fucked.

Anti-vaxxers.

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Strider102
01/26/22 5:55:43 PM
#97:


scorpion41 posted...
So the hospital murdered him and people are okay with this?

Their procedure, time, and expertise, their choice.

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_HayleyWilliams
01/26/22 5:56:32 PM
#98:


scorpion41 posted...
So the hospital murdered him and people are okay with this?
So hospitals should make exceptions to rules if you have strong political beliefs that they're lying about vaccines? Why even go to the hospital if you don't trust the doctors:m

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scorpion41
01/26/22 6:01:29 PM
#99:


_HayleyWilliams posted...
So hospitals should make exceptions to rules if you have strong political beliefs that they're lying about vaccines? Why even go to the hospital if you don't trust the doctors:m

So denying people life saving care because they dont want an optional vaccine is the way to go? Hope they have enough cash for the ensuing lawsuit after that man dies.

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ThePieReborn
01/26/22 6:03:02 PM
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I'm disinclined to think that such a suit would survive summary judgment.

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scorpion41
01/26/22 6:06:29 PM
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ThePieReborn posted...
I'm disinclined to think that such a suit would survive summary judgment.

Oh pleasethe hospital would settle so fast to avoid trial. This will be a PR nightmare.

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