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Slayer_22 01/12/22 7:02:52 AM #152: |
Umbreon posted...
That's why I feel it's best to ignore them. The amount of times I've received death threats on the internet is just absurd. And I'm a nobody. At this point, it feels like you have to accept that dumbasses gonna dumbass. Once you build in a filter, it's so much easier to weed out the ones that aren't idiots. The world could still do without said idiots. --- "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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xXfireglzXx 01/12/22 7:04:25 AM #153: |
Punished_Blinx posted... Why are there always people who say "You're attacking your entire audience" when the vocal assholes are called out? M8, you gotta learn how to address an argument without Kafkatrapping. --- Official ANCIENT Killer. I make account bets from time to time so either man up or shut up. The Quote is dedicated to those we have lost. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cuttin_in_farm 01/12/22 7:04:57 AM #154: |
I have almost no context to any of this. But I think its unfair to say people should have to deal with negative comments. Everyone has their own tolerance levels. --- A show of kindness may not do much help, but a show of cruelty may do much harm. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 01/12/22 7:06:28 AM #155: |
Slayer_22 posted... That's why I feel it's best to ignore them.I used to say thus too but you're being dishonest if you claim the level of threats and abuse is equal --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JuanCarlos1 01/12/22 7:11:36 AM #156: |
Wait there are people here arguing about what she said? For fucks sake --- Mas dicen, que en las dimensiones de nuestro ser... hay muchos detalles por conocer... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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alphagamble 01/12/22 7:16:48 AM #157: |
I'd be quite flattered if someone said they jerked off to the thought of me actually --- ooh ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SweetieBeIle462 01/12/22 7:33:38 AM #158: |
Well there's nothing else to do this morning --- Mac Book Pro 16 - 6-Core i7-9750H @ 2.60GHz - 32gb DDR4 2667 MHz - Radeon Pro 5500M 8gb - 2TB Apple SSD Now Playing: Metroid Dread, Tales of Arise, Dead By Daylight ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Quicksilver 01/12/22 7:53:33 AM #159: |
WTF g4 is back? Who is even watching them in 2022 I guess people who love cops reruns. --- I play video games. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Catgirl Fondler 01/12/22 8:04:51 AM #160: |
Gamerguymass posted...
Bullshit, there's nothing forcing other men to act like this, and I say that as one of the biggest fucking perverts here. I enjoy my lewd and saucy content, often and vigorously, but that doesn't mean I condone harassment and mistreatment in the real world. It's a personal choice to be a belligerent and sexist dipshit, and unfortunately a lot of guys choose poorly. --- IDD ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shotgunnova 01/12/22 8:22:45 AM #161: |
A little cringy, but she ain't wrong. --- Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JuanCarlos1 01/12/22 8:24:36 AM #162: |
Shotgunnova posted... A little cringy, but she ain't wrong. Whats cringy about saying the truth? --- Mas dicen, que en las dimensiones de nuestro ser... hay muchos detalles por conocer... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Funkydog 01/12/22 8:29:56 AM #163: |
Thanks to all the Gamers in this topic for proving her point with gusto. --- Let's make biscuits! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Slayer_22 01/12/22 8:34:08 AM #164: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
No, I'm not being dishonest. I've always considered them to he toothless, ever since my first one where I called the police. Death threats are just the norm of the internet, because it's the best and easiest thing you can threaten if you want to sound scarier than you actually are. --- "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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General-Secura 01/12/22 8:35:15 AM #165: |
Ah, I'm so happy I don't have to deal with Froskurinn mucking up the LEC broadcast any more. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ar0ge 01/12/22 8:58:52 AM #166: |
Literally more than 2/3 of people in this topic just reinforced her argument. Men are disgusting. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nemu 01/12/22 9:11:17 AM #167: |
Turning off comments or using your own platform where you can better curate the userbase is the only way to make that stop. It'd be nice if we could come together as a society to be less shitty, but that's obviously never going to happen. Celebrities in particular have to realize they will always deal with this shit due to being in the limelight. Nobody should have to deal with that and there can probably be some measures to lighten it up a little bit, but you gotta work in reality rather than some imagined utopia. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightHawKnight 01/12/22 9:14:20 AM #168: |
Not sure why people think the vocal minority of the commenters is the norm. Trolls with anonymity exist everywhere online. As long as free accounts exist, or hell even hacked accounts or otherwise you are going to have a ton of assholes in chat/comments. Even with good moderators, they can only delete and ban accounts after they show up. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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waterjoe 01/12/22 9:17:18 AM #169: |
General-Secura posted... Ah, I'm so happy I don't have to deal with Froskurinn mucking up the LEC broadcast any more. Assholes like this is the reason why she said what she said and she 100% right. Then this muthafucka would have the audacity to complain about people not agreeing with his dumbass leftist takes. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lairen 01/12/22 9:17:27 AM #170: |
The bad people doing what shes talking against dont care what she has to say. The good people not doing what shes talking against dont care because theyre not doing it. Whos she talking to? --- When it rains, it pours. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 01/12/22 9:18:55 AM #171: |
Nemu posted... Turning off comments or using your own platform where you can better curate the userbase is the only way to make that stop. It'd be nice if we could come together as a society to be less shitty, but that's obviously never going to happen. Celebrities in particular have to realize they will always deal with this shit due to being in the limelight. Nobody should have to deal with that and there can probably be some measures to lighten it up a little bit, but you gotta work in reality rather than some imagined utopia.Lindsay Ellis alone disproves this argument She turned off comments and closed her social media and all it did was make people angrier at her She then came back and did a video about it and half the trolls ran off Dina Tokio did the same thing The Internet and social media are new things. The concept of "No you have to shut up and accept us abusing and threatening you because that's the way it is. That's reality, you can't expect me to change " is pure bullshit Especially when shining a light on it has shown to be effective at curbing it. The behavior is only normalised if you accept it as such Hell I'd argue its already better than it was In the late 2000s --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 01/12/22 9:20:31 AM #172: |
Lairen posted... The bad people doing what shes talking against dont care what she has to say.All the people defending the "bad" people and normalising their behavior while downplaying the abuse Which is a ton of people including many in this topic --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Fam_Fam 01/12/22 9:21:40 AM #173: |
Lairen posted... The bad people doing what shes talking against dont care what she has to say. you don't do something, so you don't care about it? that's the problem. people just either say they aren't doing it, or it is not bad. the idea is for "good people" to recognize its bad and to call it out as well. it's drawing attention to a problem, and trying to create awareness that leads to change when the spotlight is on it, which limits peoples' ability to pretend they don't know about it ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightHawKnight 01/12/22 9:24:23 AM #174: |
Fam_Fam posted... you don't do something, so you don't care about it? that's the problem. people just either say they aren't doing it, or it is not bad. the idea is for "good people" to recognize its bad and to call it out as well. it's drawing attention to a problem, and trying to create awareness that leads to change when the spotlight is on it, which limits peoples' ability to pretend they don't know about it What does calling it out do? Trolls with anonymity dont care about getting punished or "exposed". They will just make another account and go at it. Gotta step up moderators and ban them faster is all you can really do. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 01/12/22 9:27:34 AM #175: |
LightHawKnight posted... What does calling it out do? Trolls with anonymity dont care about getting punished or "exposed". They will just make another account and go at it. Gotta step up moderators and ban them faster is all you can really do."What does calling out theft do? Theives are gonna steal stuff anyway. Only thing you can do is step up police to arrest them faster." This is dumb logic You know this is dumb logic Again the normalisation, trivalization, downplaying and rationalising is blatant. And it demonstrates her point. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Umbreon 01/12/22 9:28:28 AM #176: |
Oh, you'd be surprised how many people publicly do that shit. It's not just all trolls hiding under anonymity (Ignoring how that's going to be less and less of a thing) But more to the point, keeping silent about these things is essentially saying it's okay. Which it isn't. --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) 12-18-19 and 01-13-21: Times Donald Trump has officially been impeached. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightHawKnight 01/12/22 9:29:51 AM #177: |
UnfairRepresent posted... "What does calling out theft do? Theives are gonna steal stuff anyway. Only thing you can do is step up police to arrest them faster." So you dont know how the internet works. Thieves can be far easier to catch and actually worth catching. Internet trolls? You can call out all you want, and they will find pleasure in that. It is going to do nothing to stop them, cause you wont be catching them. They will make new accounts and keep on doing what they do until they get bored. All they want is attention and to be assholes. Ban and move on to keep them attention starved. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightHawKnight 01/12/22 9:31:08 AM #178: |
Umbreon posted... Oh, you'd be surprised how many people publicly do that shit. It's not just all trolls hiding under anonymity (Ignoring how that's going to be less and less of a thing) How many actually do it publicly? Those ones you can actually maybe shame to go away. Have real punishments for being an asshole when you can identify them. --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lairen 01/12/22 9:32:31 AM #179: |
Theres many stupid annoying people of all types. You can point one out and say a group is like that or argue with them. Its a waste of time. Like shes talking out against a problem vaguely. She might as well talk about pollution or world hunger. She is talking against an anonymous group thats being offensive. Good luck. --- When it rains, it pours. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 01/12/22 9:41:59 AM #180: |
LightHawKnight posted... So you dont know how the internet works. Thieves can be far easier to catch and actually worth catching. Internet trolls? You can call out all you want, and they will find pleasure in that. It is going to do nothing to stop them, cause you wont be catching them. They will make new accounts and keep on doing what they do until they get bored. All they want is attention and to be assholes. Ban and move on to keep them attention starved. UnfairRepresent posted... Lindsay Ellis alone disproves this argument --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lairen 01/12/22 9:47:44 AM #181: |
UnfairRepresent posted... She then came back and did a video about it and half the trolls ran off How did she measure this? --- When it rains, it pours. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jagr_68 01/12/22 10:04:38 AM #183: |
Nemu posted... Turning off comments or using your own platform where you can better curate the userbase is the only way to make that stop. It'd be nice if we could come together as a society to be less shitty, but that's obviously never going to happen. Celebrities in particular have to realize they will always deal with this shit due to being in the limelight. Nobody should have to deal with that and there can probably be some measures to lighten it up a little bit, but you gotta work in reality rather than some imagined utopia. Yeah this stupid rhetoric behind using ignore or block features as a sign of weakness or thin-skinned needs to be phased out of our culture, which it sort of slowly is in social media. Just because everyone has a voice to be heard doesn't mean "YOU" have to tolerate it. --- New York Rangers [2004-2008] https://media.giphy.com/media/WvQHBYW0q4TuxdAg61/giphy.gif https://psnprofiles.com/Jaromiroquai68 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CruelBuffalo 01/12/22 10:50:23 AM #185: |
Shes right and gamers are pathetic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gwynevere 01/12/22 1:18:48 PM #188: |
Unfortunately mistreatment and objectification of women has gone hand in hand with gaming for a long time now. Especially when the main demographic was weird nerds and dude bros Things are changing, and this behavior needs to keep getting called out. And I get the feeling anyone trying to delegitimize her experiences don't want things to change --- A hunter is a hunter...even in a dream ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Eramir 01/12/22 2:29:04 PM #189: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Exactly. This person needs to be mad at her own company lmao ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gobstoppers12 01/12/22 2:36:30 PM #190: |
Having a sense of shame is an underrated skill. Some people need to learn when they should keep their thoughts to themselves. Especially in comment sections. --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dave_is_slick 01/12/22 2:36:40 PM #191: |
Jagr_68 posted... Yeah this stupid rhetoric behind using ignore or block features as a sign of weakness or thin-skinned needs to be phased out of our culture, which it sort of slowly is in social media.Don't know why you think that's being phased out. I've only ever seen it used when people don't get the response they were looking for. It only creates echo chambers. Rarely is it used to stop harassment. --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Prestoff 01/12/22 2:38:20 PM #192: |
Yeah I'm normally on the boat about just ignoring trolls, but sometimes shutting down your social media accounts or putting them on a ban list is the only way to deal with them. My younger sister, last year, was a victim to this where trolls at first were making derogatory comments about her because she appeared in a talk regarding a female empowerment college program for STEM majors. At first she ignored them, but it just wouldn't stop and it got to the point where it got invasive like one of them calling her workplace Boss and making false allegations on her being abusive towards her pets. She eventually shut down all her social media accounts and just recently opened it back up (since new years) and hasn't gotten any troll comments since. She is definitely going to be more vigilant regarding troll comments and most likely going to be blocking or banning a bunch of them if they do prop up. --- DI MOLTO! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DragonClaw01 01/12/22 3:11:37 PM #194: |
It's pretty unrealistic to think that she is going to be treated the same way as Adam anyways considering she is a nothing that no one's ever heard of. Compared to Adam who at least has nostalgia going for him. The whole endeavor's doomed anyways. No one cares about G4 after the rise of YouTube and Adam's review style is far to verbose and boring for a modern day audience. I mean you are reviewing Halo, not writing a book review for the New York Times. Pretty much why he failed since leaving G4 the first time. Why would I watch him when I could watch something entertaining like Scott the Woz --- <('.'<) <(^.^)> (>'.')> Splendiferous ... Copied to Clipboard!
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g0ldie 01/12/22 3:17:56 PM #195: |
^ while still a bit verbose, like you said, his reviews are now pretty fun, and another host is usually included to give their take. the woman in the OP has been in some of them, from what I've seen. --- https://imgur.com/mApEnf3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Prestoff 01/12/22 3:25:39 PM #196: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] I felt even worst because I was one of those people that went "Sis, just ignore them. Giving them attention will only make it worst. They will eventually go away." I just didn't realize how far some of these trolls would go. A lot of them were giving her crap because she's made comments about her experience in going into Electrical Engineering, but dropped out of that major because every engineering class she was in was always predominately male or she was the only female in there. She would constantly get hit on by many of them, which she found to be very uncomfortable because she wasn't looking to be in a relationship with anyone until after college and when she got her life down. She also said she faced some sexism like guys making comments about women not being smart in general if she didn't get a high score on a quiz or test, because she said that if you're a minority in a majority environment, not only are you an unwilling representative but you will get judged on for any actions you do, as unfair as that sounds. It was an environment she was very uncomfortable with that she temporarily dropped out of college and was thinking about going into beauty school. With encouragement from family, friends, and mentors she eventually switched to Bio major where she eventually got a job as a Veterinarian (you can see why the troll made the call they did to her boss) after graduation and she kinda used this as an anchor to for the rest of her sharing regarding not giving up after a bad experience. I will give a discretion she does use some "sjw" words like "problematic" and "words can be violence" in her sharing, so I can see why some people might have an issue with it. I can also see people using the "block" feature to block out dissenting opinions and creating an echo chamber (like someone else posted). With that said, I can also see it sometimes being a good tool to blocking out abuse and harassment as well. --- DI MOLTO! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AceMos 01/12/22 3:42:16 PM #197: |
i would like to remind ppl morgan webb was also harassed ppl constantly accused her of not being a real gamer this shit has been going on for along time and it needs to stop --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Metalsonic66 01/12/22 3:43:14 PM #198: |
Fiddle with my joystick baybeh --- PSN/Steam ID: Metalsonic_69 Big bombs go kabang. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smackems 01/12/22 3:50:19 PM #199: |
lilORANG posted... That's not Morgan WebbThis, so don't care --- Tennessee's a brother to my sister Carolina where they're gonna bury me. And I ain't ready to go. I'm never ready to go. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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myzz7 01/12/22 3:53:04 PM #200: |
super cringe --- ''If I knew how to dox people, and you lived close to me, I would beat you with a bat.'' Bad_Mojo 8/24/2018 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Slayer_22 01/12/22 3:53:44 PM #201: |
UnfairRepresent posted...
It's not normalizing it, and it may be downplaying, but ffs. You cannot do anything about it. You can't do anything about petty theft either, you can crack down on it, but you can't really do anything about it. Maybe say no. But is that gonna stop anyone? How often do you see people arguing that theft is bad? Not very, because it's obvious and it doesn't need to be said. Of course bigoted, misogynistic, racist, disgusting comments will exist no matter what. It isn't a shocking revelation that those are bad. That's why bans and deletions will exist. You have to accept that the vocal minority will say these things, and you're only egging them on by having rants about it. If she's seriously making a big deal about this one thing from comments of the vocal minority(that I cannot even find anymore on popular websites like YouTube and reddit), then it seems like such a non-issue that it isn't even worth a mention. JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...
I've seen people defending using datura, so I wouldn't assume otherwise. The second part was the part I was saying you were putting words into my mouth. --- "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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