Board 8 > FFXIV Topic 11 - Fly Me to the Moon

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LordoftheMorons
12/10/21 1:37:18 AM
#101:


CoolCly posted...


grand company turn ins are a hell of a drug

anyway i just got home and had a 15 person queue, did they fix the game???
No, it's just late. I had a 3k queue this afternoon.

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UshiromiyaEva
12/10/21 1:54:49 AM
#102:


OK.

These teleport costs are fucked. I got 60 tickets Tuesday set to 900 Gil plus and thought that would last me a week until the rest. I'm almost out.

You win YoshiP, I'll level Blue.

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UshiromiyaEva
12/10/21 2:27:39 AM
#103:


Finally looking at this Ishgardian Crafting stuff and I don't understand. I can craft anything no problem but this best I can even get anywhere close to the minimum quality amount. All the terminology is different on the crafting too.

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LordoftheMorons
12/10/21 2:39:37 AM
#104:


The expert crafts? Those are actually hard. I learned how to do them decently during one of the season rankings, but I can't really remember it too well any more.

It is very important to make good use of the statuses. You also want to make liberal use of observe to fish for better statuses.

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UshiromiyaEva
12/10/21 2:44:43 AM
#105:


I'll have to investigate for sure.

A tip I just ran into, once you start hitting level 86 and beyond, start doing every sidequest for accessory coffers. They're barely higher item level than the Cryptlurker gear so you don't really need them, and they're going for 100k-200k on the Marketboard depending on the job.

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LordoftheMorons
12/10/21 2:50:31 AM
#106:


Another thing is that they're pretty RNG dependent and you need to accept that some fraction of them are just gonna end in failure. In addition to the RNG of the statuses you want to be making use of the intrinsically RNG abilities like rapid synthesis and hasty touch that have higher expected value than the guaranteed skills (especially under the status that increases their success probability).

Unfortunately it looks like Patient Touch (doubles/halves IQ stacks if successful/unsuccessful) was removed; that was a really useful skill for expert crafts

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LordoftheMorons
12/10/21 5:03:19 AM
#107:


86 MSQ:

I get to hang out with my two best friends Emet and Hythlodaeus to take on that fucker Fandaniel?? (Well, investigate what he's up to, anyway...). I'm unbelievably hyped for this!

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LordoftheMorons
12/10/21 6:40:23 AM
#108:


More 86 MSQ + speculation:

Welp, guess I was wrong about there being nothing more to Fandaniel... they're gonna try to make me like him too, I assume! He's very different here in the past and specifically states that he doesn't understand why the old Fandaniel would want to die. Presumably something's going to happen to Meteion that starts off his descent into madness...

As far as Elpis goes, I assume it's based off of Elysium to go along with the ancient Greece theme of the Convocations' true identities?

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DoomTheGyarados
12/10/21 7:45:29 AM
#109:


So this is my first time at a new expansion and I want to do things right. The crafted gear for my crafter/mining stuff doesn't look much better than the stuff I had before. Whats an optimal setup for this? Does it have something to do with stuffing everything full of materia?

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LordoftheMorons
12/10/21 8:14:57 AM
#110:


Materia is a very substantial portion of crafter/gatherer stats. For crafting gear you typically want as much CP as possible, whatever craftsmanship is needed to craft everything and then the rest in control. There should also be certain breakpoints for gathering stats to be able to collect everything with 100% success rates and have the minimums for node bonuses.

I wasn't around for ShB launch either so I don't know whether it's worth overmelding the current best stuff or to wait until the first set of crafting books comes out for better gear though.

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HeroDelTiempo17
12/10/21 11:09:05 AM
#111:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
Finally looking at this Ishgardian Crafting stuff and I don't understand. I can craft anything no problem but this best I can even get anywhere close to the minimum quality amount. All the terminology is different on the crafting too.

I think LotM is right and those are the expert crafts (they use artisanal and rare mats right?) and also you should not be doing those for grinding exp/scrips. Expert crafts take forever and are basically only good for crafter rankings which are done with now. You want the second highest ones.

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UshiromiyaEva
12/10/21 12:00:46 PM
#112:


So ones without the little red deally next to them, I assume?

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UshiromiyaEva
12/10/21 2:08:27 PM
#113:


Got Sastasha for leveling and a Maurader did the whole thing without Tank stance.

Told him a few times no response.

Assumed he was new but then saw his title was ENDWALKER.

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Shadow Dino
12/10/21 2:10:33 PM
#114:


Big oofs there.

Saw credits last night. Game is great.

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LordoftheMorons
12/10/21 6:04:49 PM
#115:


HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
I think LotM is right and those are the expert crafts (they use artisanal and rare mats right?) and also you should not be doing those for grinding exp/scrips. Expert crafts take forever and are basically only good for crafter rankings which are done with now. You want the second highest ones.
Oh I assumed LtM was talking about doing them for the last step of the ShB Skysteel tools. Yeah, the only reason to do the normal firmament ones now would be to grind out the old achievements (like if you're a crazy person going after the pterodactyl mount).

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UshiromiyaEva
12/10/21 7:15:27 PM
#116:


So what should I be doing just for leveling?

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The Mana Sword
12/10/21 7:23:33 PM
#117:


Turning in collectables.

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UshiromiyaEva
12/10/21 7:24:53 PM
#118:


That's costing a lot of dough, thought Ishagard has some cheap and easy way to do it but guess I was mistaken!

Have Weaver to 90 at least.

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Xiahou Shake
12/10/21 7:38:33 PM
#119:


Not sure what you were talking about earlier but for leveling in Ishgard Restoration you just turn in the Grade 4 stuff. It is indeed insanely quick, easy and cheap at first, with basically the only effort being crafting gear at certain thresholds to make macros usable. Once you get past 70 it will probably start getting more expensive, but you can offset that by gathering the materials yourself in the Diadem or doing other stuff like Dwarves, collectables, leves, GC turn-ins and custom deliveries.

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Mac Arrowny
12/10/21 8:13:57 PM
#120:


There aren't level 90 job quests, right?

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The Mana Sword
12/10/21 8:14:12 PM
#121:


Nope

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tcaz2
12/10/21 9:38:10 PM
#122:


I'm glad they seem to want to do job quests for the new jobs going forward at least though. I've only done Sage's so far but it was fairly high on terms of the quality of the story compared to the other Job quests.

I enjoyed it.

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Radix
12/10/21 9:38:33 PM
#123:


oh shit estinien blew up a big cannon finally something of value happened!

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LordoftheMorons
12/10/21 10:32:53 PM
#124:


87 MSQ:

Just met Venat... and shes the previous Azem! We make the questionable decision to tell them about the future, and Emet-Selch doesnt believe it and storms off. Presumably we never meet the current Azem because then she would have to have a canonical appearance (and they cant use yours unless the ascians can come in Lala etc form) but it would be cool!

Im guessing this is the self-consistent version of time travel where they had always met the WoL and its not possible to change the past (or maybe even that our presence led to the events of the past that always had happened).

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UshiromiyaEva
12/10/21 10:52:43 PM
#125:


Now that I've put plenty of time into it, time to give my new RDM opinion.

The big obvious change is improving its dungeon play. New AoE barrier for lowering damage from packs and roomwides. All 3 stages of the finishers providing AoE damage and getting stacks for it from your Melee AoE is an absolute game hanger for comfort ability.

The new Manafication is an ENORMOUS buff. Also let's you get out your full combo right off the bat, aided by the new Acceleration which gets you to offset Mana instantly without even a cast time. Even if Acceleration doesn't provide as much overall mana as it used since only once proc is guaranteed, it's still an overall improvement and flow and reliability, and works out a lot better for lining up with damage buffs. Stacks also prevent overcapping in abilities.

The new Resolution finisher also makes up for the minor Mana loss from Acceleration's change. Visually, one of the nicest looking abilities in the game. The line AoE takes some time getting used too, but once you are it's just a matter of lining up on packs. No effect on different for single target of course.

TLDR, universal improvement to RDM. A lot more engaging than the safe but repetitive play from before. If you don't play RDM, the changes seem very minor, but if you do it's a huge upgrade. Can't think of a single negative to come out of this.

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GANON1025
12/10/21 11:18:05 PM
#126:


It started:

https://www.twitch.tv/actionbutton

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BK_Sheikah00
12/10/21 11:51:14 PM
#127:


So leveling miner after 80 was pretty fast. Collectables are so good. Leves in the meantime. And bonus Custom Deliveries with Charlemend and Kai Shirr gave a couple of levels too.

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UshiromiyaEva
12/10/21 11:55:18 PM
#128:


Gatherer's were insanely easy to level 90 with just the i500 Scrip gear, no effort.

And Fishing doesn't even count since you just get on the boat anyways.

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trdl23
12/11/21 12:33:52 AM
#129:


BK_Sheikah00 posted...
So leveling miner after 80 was pretty fast. Collectables are so good. Leves in the meantime. And bonus Custom Deliveries with Charlemend and Kai Shirr gave a couple of levels too.
Did you see the hidden storyline in the mining levequests?

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LordoftheMorons
12/11/21 5:46:54 AM
#130:


Finished the fourth dungeon, and wow

So it seems like I was probably right about our visit always having happened, with Hermes' memory wipe closing the plotholes that would result. Hydaelyn, however, would have always known the true cause of the Final Days. Hythlodaeus's comment about the memories returning when they returned to the star would then explain why Fandaniel regains his insanity post-sundering.

Not sure how I feel about Meteion's breakdown and triggering of his insanity; it requires a little more suspension of disbelief than I'd like. I also briefly theorized when she first broke down that she might have met Omega, but it sounds like that wasn't the case and she became nihilistic without the interference of any living entity.

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LordoftheMorons
12/11/21 5:51:45 AM
#131:


Also it was true before, but now that I have flying... man, the fifth zone is beautiful

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Isquen
12/11/21 6:47:27 AM
#132:


I do wish that I could have the dungeon music override the fifth zone's music, though.

Normal music is a bit too idyllic for me even if natural floating elysian continents are very much my aesthetic. The light DnB that is in the dungeon theme, though, which is a huge reason I love Woe that is Madness... I want it.

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LordoftheMorons
12/11/21 8:37:54 AM
#133:


5:30 am and I get to a "several cutscenes will play in sequence"

...fuck it, let's go for it

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LordoftheMorons
12/11/21 9:04:40 AM
#134:


Last 87 quest:

Venat fucking rules. I'm sorry for ever doubting her...!

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DoomTheGyarados
12/11/21 10:14:59 AM
#135:


https://i.redd.it/t2yl1u700w481.png

You love to see it.

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UshiromiyaEva
12/11/21 11:22:19 AM
#136:


Currently averaging higher than original WoW for the highest rated MMO ever.

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UshiromiyaEva
12/11/21 12:03:33 PM
#137:


Crystal Tower literally every Alliance roulette since the expansion launched.

Frustrating.

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The Mana Sword
12/11/21 12:07:26 PM
#138:


Frustrating? I think you mean ideal.

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UshiromiyaEva
12/11/21 12:08:49 PM
#139:


Naw unless it's Syrcus this is boring as hell. Labyrinth in particular I hate. Level 50 Reaper also sucks.

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The Mana Sword
12/11/21 12:10:03 PM
#140:


If Im doing roulettes I just want to get in and out as quick as possible, so give me LotA every time.

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Mac Arrowny
12/11/21 12:11:44 PM
#141:


Everyone probably reducing iLvl since they made the later raid series more difficult with the stat squish.

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UshiromiyaEva
12/11/21 12:13:36 PM
#142:


There's still gear pieces from Ivalice I want :/

And I haven't done Yorha in months.

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The Mana Sword
12/11/21 12:20:00 PM
#143:


You can always queue for those specific raids if you want to do them! Just don't do roulette.

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Isquen
12/11/21 12:25:51 PM
#144:


Roulette gives you the shiny materia-givers as a DPS though.

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DoomTheGyarados
12/11/21 12:31:06 PM
#145:


I am having a blast doing old content. Doing pixie beast tribe stuff and level 70 alliance raid series...!

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Mac Arrowny
12/11/21 1:07:40 PM
#146:


Ivalice raids certain are a combination of the coolest area and boss designs with the worst story in the game (much worse than ARR)! Dels definitely won here if he skipped the cutscenes.

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UshiromiyaEva
12/11/21 1:08:40 PM
#147:


Literally contains a tribute to the worst questline in the entire game in it. Can't even make that shit up.

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Isquen
12/11/21 1:13:50 PM
#148:


I thought the Ivalice story was just incredibly word-salad that gave you an excuse to dress up like Tactics classes and call this incarnation of Ramza a useless nerd.

It's good for teaching Bozja dodge mechanics, too, I guess.

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trdl23
12/11/21 1:32:21 PM
#149:


Yeah, Ivalice and Bozja are the only pieces of content where I'll recommend just skipping the story and getting into the cool fights.

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X_Dante_X
12/11/21 1:56:44 PM
#150:


i got orbonne two days in a row for alliance raid roulette awww yeah

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