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CornPop 11/10/21 3:38:24 PM #202: |
Holy shit, gas was $2.09!
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Gobstoppers12 11/10/21 3:38:48 PM #203: |
troll_swag posted...
I didnt bring up the immigrant stuff though.I just wanted you to prove your assertion that illegal immigrants are frequently punished for crimes they're the victim of. That's a pretty salacious claim. --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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InfinityMonster 11/10/21 3:39:15 PM #204: |
troll_swag posted...
I didnt bring up the immigrant stuff though. I only responded to it once it was brought to me. Nice try tho.Yes, I'm referring to this "There are literally countless cases of illegal immigrants being punished for the pettiest of things, even when theyre the victim." To which he asked for examples, and you just told him not to be ignorant without providing anything and now claiming he lost. --- "It lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dioxxys 11/10/21 3:41:15 PM #205: |
sktgamer_13dude posted...
I think its in poor taste to paint him as this sympathetic poor soul when people lost their fucking life and he will likely walk free and get tons of endorsements for this entire thing.@sktgamer_13dude Yeah its so sad we lost the soul of that child molester and those other convicted criminals ... Copied to Clipboard!
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troll_swag 11/10/21 3:44:48 PM #206: |
how many times has an illegal immigrant been the victim of a crime(attacked,robbed,beaten,raped,etc) and gotten deported? Youre going to sit here and tell me that this doesnt occur frequently?
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FLOUR 11/10/21 3:47:09 PM #207: |
So was the comedy bit between the judge and prosecutor earlier meant to be deliberate?
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Gobstoppers12 11/10/21 3:47:18 PM #208: |
troll_swag posted...
how many times has an illegal immigrant been the victim of a crime(attacked,robbed,beaten,raped,etc) and gotten deported? Youre going to sit here and tell me that this doesnt occur frequently?They're not being punished for being a victim, in that case. They're being punished for the law that they violated, completely independent of any other crime. It's like being rear ended, through no fault of your own, but because the police investigate the crash they find out you've been driving with expired plates. You're not being punished for being rear ended, you're being punished for driving with expired plates. --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DeadBankerDream 11/10/21 3:48:51 PM #209: |
troll_swag posted...
how many times has an illegal immigrant been the victim of a crime(attacked,robbed,beaten,raped,etc) and gotten deported? Youre going to sit here and tell me that this doesnt occur frequently?How does that mean that an illegal immigrant can't use a self defense argument in a case where they defended themselves? You can't be serious. --- "That thick shaft that causes women to shudder!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BobEvansLegend 11/10/21 3:50:07 PM #210: |
Wow. Even the judge is confused by this prosecutor now.
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troll_swag 11/10/21 3:51:29 PM #211: |
Gobstoppers12 posted...
They're not being punished for being a victim, in that case. They're being punished for the law that they violated, completely independent of any other crime.And this is why its not an apt comparison to Rittenhouse. Totally different circumstances. --- This post now contains 300% more swag, and a 500% increase in trolling. You're welcome. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BobEvansLegend 11/10/21 3:53:12 PM #212: |
Now he can't run a slide show.
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Gobstoppers12 11/10/21 3:57:06 PM #213: |
troll_swag posted...
And this is why its not an apt comparison to Rittenhouse. Totally different circumstances.Same principal, though. If you kill somebody in a justified act of self defense, it's not a criminal act. A minor weapon charge doesn't nullify your right to claim self defense. So punish him on the weapons charge, sure, but he absolutely did not commit murder. --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gunplagirl 11/10/21 3:57:18 PM #214: |
ThePrinceFish posted...
This entire paragraph is amazing. He does not randomly run away; he immediately starts heading towards where the police line is set up. Before doing so, he tells Grosskreutz and anyone else standing close to the shooting that he is going to the police. "He falls" after he is punched in the back of his head by a mob of angry rioters who don't care that he's running towards the police. He then has a man try to kick him in the head and is immediately smacked in the shoulder with a skateboard in a failed attempt to bash his skull. As he aims at the person who tried to murder him with a skateboard, they grab the barrel of his gun and he fires into their chest.@ThePrinceFish I was just going off of what the defense spent time doing while cross examining him. I said at least twice that it's looking like that's how they're going to frame things. It's not a matter of honesty, it's a matter of how things are framed which is everything in these cases. --- tfw no big tiddy goth vampire gf who lactates blood - viewmaster_pi ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CableZL 11/10/21 3:57:25 PM #215: |
Are they arguing that zooming in on an image is equal to altering it?
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Sayoria 11/10/21 3:58:51 PM #216: |
This judge is a fucking idiot. This is why there should be age limits on positions of power.
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troll_swag 11/10/21 3:59:16 PM #217: |
Gobstoppers12 posted...
Same principal, though. If you kill somebody in a justified act of self defense, it's not a criminal act. A minor weapon charge doesn't nullify your right to claim self defense.Well I absolutely never said he commuted murder. i said he shouldnt be able to claim self defense --- This post now contains 300% more swag, and a 500% increase in trolling. You're welcome. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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InfinityMonster 11/10/21 3:59:27 PM #218: |
Oh damn. Interesting argument here. Defense is arguing that pinch and zooming a photo on an iPad alters the photo.
Which is not something that has really been in phones, at least not on any major level, till just now with the Pixel 6. The Pixel 6 does in fact use AI to enhance zoomed photos. And it has been adding some hilarious shit. Prosecution is arguing common sense and is inviting an expert The judge is saying the defense's argument makes sense so we should make sure. --- "It lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Life Sympathy 11/10/21 3:59:50 PM #219: |
How to show a powerpoint presentation...........
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CoasterFan1990 11/10/21 4:01:05 PM #220: |
Video was unavailable
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Revocation68 11/10/21 4:01:07 PM #221: |
Smashingpmkns posted...
https://twitter.com/cathyrusson/status/1458470303747964928 Fake as fuck. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CableZL 11/10/21 4:02:14 PM #222: |
The judge doesn't believe that expanding an image isn't altering it
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Gobstoppers12 11/10/21 4:02:36 PM #223: |
troll_swag posted...
i said he shouldnt be able to claim self defenseThat's your opinion, I guess, but it's not the law. --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CoasterFan1990 11/10/21 4:04:59 PM #224: |
Anyone got a link for the trial?
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gunplagirl 11/10/21 4:05:04 PM #225: |
Oh. And I just want to reiterate, you can't use deadly force to defend yourself unless you're in a position where people would reasonably agree that you are fearing for your life. You can't go from getting swung at to pulling out a knife and disemboweling someone in the street. Disproportionate response of force and escalating the situation is not a defense.
Sayoria posted... This judge is a fucking idiot. This is why there should be age limits on positions of power.Agreed --- tfw no big tiddy goth vampire gf who lactates blood - viewmaster_pi ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SergeantGander 11/10/21 4:05:21 PM #226: |
Revocation68 posted...
Fake as **** If there is anything Redneck Illinois teen boys are know for, it is definitely their ability to cry on command. All those years of Drama club paying off --- LoL IGN: MsRaffensperger ~Dennis~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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iPhone_7 11/10/21 4:14:36 PM #227: |
The prosecutor was pretty based defending the rioting, rock throwing, & setting fires as not alarming enough to warrant taking action.
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InfinityMonster 11/10/21 4:19:17 PM #228: |
gunplagirl posted...
Oh. And I just want to reiterate, you can't use deadly force to defend yourself unless you're in a position where people would reasonably agree that you are fearing for your life. You can't go from getting swung at to pulling out a knife and disemboweling someone in the street. Disproportionate response of force and escalating the situation is not a defense.He was running away and was cornered and then Rosenbaum lunged at him to take his gun. What's with all these fake alternate versions of the night all of you seem confident in believing happened? --- "It lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CoasterFan1990 11/10/21 4:20:02 PM #229: |
Nobody has link to the live feed?
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FLOUR 11/10/21 4:20:22 PM #230: |
How does a computer go about "magnifying" an image though?
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Sayoria 11/10/21 4:22:25 PM #231: |
iPhone_7 posted...
The prosecutor was pretty based defending the rioting, rock throwing, & setting fires as not alarming enough to warrant taking action. Gonna need to be, seeing how the judge is clearly biased. --- Japanese Crack: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5pzggr ... Copied to Clipboard!
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viewmaster_pi 11/10/21 4:22:31 PM #232: |
suddenly being beaten with a skateboard and mobbed up on and having a gun aimed at you aren't reasonable situations where one would fear for their life, very cool to know, i feel empowered
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CoasterFan1990 11/10/21 4:23:22 PM #233: |
The trial is still live right?
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Cocytus 11/10/21 4:24:50 PM #234: |
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RetsuZaiZen 11/10/21 4:34:48 PM #235: |
This judge
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PoundGarden 11/10/21 4:37:39 PM #236: |
Gobstoppers12 posted...
So you must also agree that an illegal immigrant, present in the US as a direct violation of the law, has no right to claim self defense either. Unless that immigrant was playing vigilante with an illegal firearm, this is a moot point. --- "You go. I'm just going to stare at the lake and think about how I almost just killed a baby." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PoundGarden 11/10/21 4:41:18 PM #237: |
It's astonishing how many people think teenagers should he able to go play vigilante then go "lol self defense" when they kill alleged criminals and walk away consequence free.
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InfinityMonster 11/10/21 4:44:29 PM #238: |
PoundGarden posted...
It's astonishing how many people think teenagers should he able to go play vigilante then go "lol self defense" when they kill alleged criminals and walk away consequence free.No, it's insane that people think just because he went somewhere violent and several hours passed without any incidents, that some crazy guy can sneak up on you to take your gun and you're supposed to sit there and take it. --- "It lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sayoria 11/10/21 4:47:48 PM #239: |
Man, can we get this judge kicked from this? God damn, it couldn't get more one sided.
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PoundGarden 11/10/21 4:50:00 PM #240: |
InfinityMonster posted...
No, it's insane that people think just because he went somewhere violent and several hours passed without any incidents, that some crazy guy can sneak up on you to take your gun and you're supposed to sit there and take it. Probably shouldn't have been playing vigilante then and just let the cops handle it. --- "You go. I'm just going to stare at the lake and think about how I almost just killed a baby." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DUKLegend 11/10/21 4:50:44 PM #241: |
PoundGarden posted...
Probably shouldn't have been playing vigilante then and just let the cops handle it. When did he try to play vigilante? Please enlighten me. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PoundGarden 11/10/21 4:53:30 PM #242: |
DUKLegend posted...
When did he try to play vigilante? Please enlighten me. That part where he went to a volatile situation with an illegally obtained firearm to protect property that wasn't his. Unless I'm mistaken he had no authority to do so, therefore that was textbook vigilante --- "You go. I'm just going to stare at the lake and think about how I almost just killed a baby." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BiggLaw 11/10/21 4:58:25 PM #243: |
PoundGarden posted...
That part where he went to a volatile situation with an illegally obtained firearm to protect property that wasn't his. Unless I'm mistaken he had no authority to do so, therefore that was textbook vigilanteBecause that poster doesn't agree with that sentiment, that explanation is null and void as it doesn't benefit their argument. --- Don't hate the player, hate the game. I only play the cards I was dealt. Gamertag: BiggLaw4 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CobraGT 11/10/21 4:59:53 PM #244: |
I read a CBS summary. KR says, "I did nothing wrong, I defended myself." For me this is enough to convict him: his 'I defended myself' is fine. It is the 'I did nothing wrong.' When Kyle Rittenhouse said "I did nothing wrong ... ", he is putting himself above the law.
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DUKLegend 11/10/21 5:03:00 PM #245: |
BiggLaw posted...
Because that poster doesn't agree with that sentiment, that explanation is null and void as it doesn't benefit their argument. Chill. I asked him to let me know why he chose his stance. Your automatic vindication and assumption of my thoughts is exactly why I feel I need to ask where people are coming from so I more understand their point of view. I'll take his words under consideration. Yours? Not so much, you're just being a jackass. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gwynevere 11/10/21 5:03:53 PM #246: |
Sayoria posted...
This judge is a fucking idiot. This is why there should be age limits on positions of power.We've known the judge was a piece of shit for awhile now, this trial was always going to be a shit show --- A hunter is a hunter...even in a dream ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gobstoppers12 11/10/21 5:04:30 PM #247: |
CobraGT posted...
I read a CBS summary. KR says, "I did nothing wrong, I defended myself." For me this is enough to convict him: his 'I defended myself' is fine. It is the 'I did nothing wrong.' When Kyle Rittenhouse said "I did nothing wrong ... ", he is putting himself above the law.Sadly, some people on this board genuinely think like this. --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dark_Spiret 11/10/21 5:05:03 PM #248: |
PoundGarden posted...
what cops? that was the whole problem and why everyone was there to begin with. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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InfinityMonster 11/10/21 5:05:07 PM #249: |
PoundGarden posted...
Probably shouldn't have been playing vigilante then and just let the cops handle it. PoundGarden posted... That part where he went to a volatile situation with an illegally obtained firearm to protect property that wasn't his. Unless I'm mistaken he had no authority to do so, therefore that was textbook vigilanteThat's irrelevant since the evidence shows he didn't attack, provoke or antognize anybody and most people there had guns. He was still attacked unprovoked, which doesn't invalidate self-defense. Anybody arguing against it is arguing that he should have just accepted getting attacked. --- "It lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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InfinityMonster 11/10/21 5:07:49 PM #250: |
Gwynevere posted...
We've known the judge was a piece of shit for awhile now, this trial was always going to be a shit showYou guys are already coming up with conspiracies. The judge has been extremely fair with both parties. This case was always going to be a loss. No matter the judge. No matter the prosecution. --- "It lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BiggLaw 11/10/21 5:10:28 PM #251: |
DUKLegend posted...
Chill. I asked him to let me know why he chose his stance. Your automatic vindication and assumption of my thoughts is exactly why I feel I need to ask where people are coming from so I more understand their point of view. I'll take his words under consideration. Yours? Not so much, you're just being a jackass.Your question was disingenuous. It's been answered many times in many topics by different people, and it keeps getting asked. What other answer are you fishing for other than something you agree with? It's pretty clear it hit close to home seeing as you resort to name calling right off the bat, lol. You chill. --- Don't hate the player, hate the game. I only play the cards I was dealt. Gamertag: BiggLaw4 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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