Poll of the Day > Do you believe in multiverses?

(+) Yeah! (+)

Though, doesn't the universe mean everything so i dunno

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Not exactly "out there", but out physical space is nested within higher dimensions. So why wouldn't there be other spaces nested like ours?

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I believe in infinite universes where every possible thing that can happen happens across all different universes.

Just think, out there somewhere is a timeline where Danny Devito is president.

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If there is, it doesn't matter, as the human race will never find a way of reaching out to them before the Earth becomes uninhabitable

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Zareth posted...

If there is, it doesn't matter, as the human race will never find a way of reaching out to them before the Earth becomes uninhabitable

Yeah, just watched the journey to the end of time video on youtube again.

Bah, i want to know more

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Muscles posted...

I believe in infinite universes where every possible thing that can happen happens across all different universes.

Just think, out there somewhere is a timeline where Danny Devito is president.

Alternately, many of them would be indistinguishable. There are 194 characters in your post (counting spaces and punctuation). That's 194 opportunities where you could have typed any other key. There are 95 distinct characters on a standard keyboard. That's 18,430 alternate posts you could have typed with one letter different. There's possibly 18,430 alternate universes where everything is identical except for the contents of your post.

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Muscles posted...

I believe in infinite universes where every possible thing that can happen happens across all different universes.

Just think, out there somewhere is a timeline where Danny Devito is president.

It would be incredibly depressing to ever see our alternate selves since a lot of them would be far more successful.
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I neither believe nor disbelieve in them since their existence has no practical benefit to me at this time.

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Revelation34 posted...

It would be incredibly depressing to ever see our alternate selves since a lot of them would be far more successful.

There would be an infinite better, infinite worse, and infinite equal to you so that's whatever really

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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

Alternately, many of them would be indistinguishable. There are 194 characters in your post (counting spaces and punctuation). That's 194 opportunities where you could have typed any other key. There are 95 distinct characters on a standard keyboard. That's 18,430 alternate posts you could have typed with one letter different. There's possibly 18,430 alternate universes where everything is identical except for the contents of your post.

Not only that but also chances you misspelled a word but corrected it as you typed it and so on. I made a few mistakes while posting this.

Muscles posted...

There would be an infinite better, infinite worse, and infinite equal to you so that's whatever really

The ones who are worse than the best would probably kill themselves if they saw it.
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I dunno. I dont think we really understand reality at all. Like not at all.

Time? Gravity? Quantum Physics? None of it.

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Zareth posted...

If there is, it doesn't matter, as the human race will never find a way of reaching out to them before the Earth becomes uninhabitable

Considering the sheer number of other planets we can terraform and colonize, worrying about doing that before the Earth becomes uninhabitable is just silly.

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Zeus posted...

Considering the sheer number of other planets we can terraform and colonize, worrying about doing that before the Earth becomes uninhabitable is just silly.

we literally dont have the capability to terraform any planets or even this one, we may never achieve such a thing at this rate

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Muscles posted...

I believe in infinite universes where every possible thing that can happen happens across all different universes.

As much as I like pondering the idea of the multiverse or universes constantly breaking off from our own at every possible moment, there's literally nothing to support it being reality. Some great thinkers have conceived of these kinds of possibilities but there's zero evidence of any of it. Not to say it couldn't be possible but there's zero reason to believe that's definitely the nature of reality

No, there's no real evidence for them outside of some hypothetical math. It's a philosophical (and video game) concept moreso than a true scientific concept. Of course, that means I can't prove they don't exist.

SaltyAndSweet posted...

Time? Gravity? Quantum Physics? None of it.

We know a lot, but it's one of those "the more you know the more you realize you don't know" things. We know a lot about how things work (including the crazy spacetime stuff) but not a lot about the bounds of the universe.

Maybe the whole universe is a snow globe on an alien's bookshelf. Even if true, if none of us never know that's the case...does it matter??

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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

Alternately, many of them would be indistinguishable. There are 194 characters in your post (counting spaces and punctuation). That's 194 opportunities where you could have typed any other key. There are 95 distinct characters on a standard keyboard. That's 18,430 alternate posts you could have typed with one letter different. There's possibly 18,430 alternate universes where everything is identical except for the contents of your post.

yeah isnt that crazy. if alternate universes exist, there are so many with very very slight differences

theres an alternate universe where every single PotDer has 2 dicks

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The Concept of a multiverse as it is presented by the scientific proponents of it Is not the same as you see in fantasy or science fiction movies.

the degree to which I think such a thing could be likely depends on what characteristics are you talking about. If you go full on sci fi with a carbon copy of us that just Turned out differently (like a marvel universe alternate timeline), then its absurd on its face.
whole there isnt much of anything to support it, a universe Where the laws of physics operate differently Is not absurd on its face but i dont think there is anything that gives it any real support that doesnt also have as many flaws in its claim as well.

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Zeus posted...

Considering the sheer number of other planets we can terraform and colonize, worrying about doing that before the Earth becomes uninhabitable is just silly.

We literally have none of the technology for either of those things.

wpot posted...

We know a lot, but it's one of those "the more you know the more you realize you don't know" things. We know a lot about how things work (including the crazy spacetime stuff) but not a lot about the bounds of the universe.

That reminds me of the Futurama episode where they learned everything and got depressed. Then Fry said something intelligent by accident and got them all passionate again. Also that last sentence is a MIB reference?
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i havent heard another reasonable explanation for why the laws of physics are so conducive to the formation of intelligent life

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PunishedOni posted...

i havent heard another reasonable explanation for why the laws of physics are so conducive to the formation of intelligent life

the valumation of protons balances all things towards one resonance of harmonic awareness

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The evidence of my life leads towards the fact that there are indeed multiple/infinite universes.

I have had over 20 times where I survived a near death experience when it should not have been possible. A few times makes sense, over 20 gets to the point where the only explanation is that we continue to exist as long as there is any possibility of us doing so. Your conciousness/mind just moves forward into another universe where everything was the same, other than you surviving.

You die, but since there are infinite yous in other universes, it doesn't matter.

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wolfy42 posted...

The evidence of my life leads towards the fact that there are indeed multiple/infinite universes.

I have had over 20 times where I survived a near death experience when it should not have been possible. A few times makes sense, over 20 gets to the point where the only explanation is that we continue to exist as long as there is any possibility of us doing so. Your conciousness/mind just moves forward into another universe where everything was the same, other than you surviving.

You die, but since there are infinite yous in other universes, it doesn't matter.

Quantum Immortality, its a fascinating concept.

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SaltyAndSweet posted...

Quantum Immortality, its a fascinating concept.

Isnt that rick and morty always going on about

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JamesOwnzMaz posted...

Isnt that rick and morty always going on about

idk sounds like something that would be

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SaltyAndSweet posted...

idk sounds like something that would be

Kinda but not really. In rick and morty they all have different lives, the universes are different etc, though to some degree he has been able to go and get duplicate morty's so perhaps it is infinite universes he can choose from.

My idea is basically that your conciousness is the same in all of them where your actions/reality etc have been the same, up until they diverge. Since there are infinite universes though that means there will always be another you that is exactly the same, so if you die, that one continues and your conciousness (which is exactly the same across all of them) continues on.

Rick and morty, Sliders, Heinliens books (number of the beast etc) all touch on it, but don't include the conciousness part (where unlimited versions of anyone exits, therefore you don't cease to exist until there is no possible method/means for you to do so in the same universe you are in.

The real question becomes if it's ever possible for you to cease to exist once the possibility of immortality becomes real (Through cloning, becoming digital, regeneration of tissue etc).

In theory it's possible within the next 20 years easily for something to be developed that prolongs life or digitalizes conciousness/memories etc, if that is possible then it could happen and you would then not be able to die at all.

That is what I'm afraid of.

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wolfy42 posted...

That is what I'm afraid of.

Its the one thing Im hoping for personally. I understand how some wouldnt want it, but given the opportunity, Id like to exist indefinitely.

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wolfy42 posted...

Your conciousness/mind just moves forward into another universe where everything was the same, other than you surviving.

That also seems like The Virtues Last Reward series. Thats like the how point of the game
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LinkPizza posted...

That also seems like The Virtues Last Reward series. Thats like the how point of the game

Woah havn't heard of that. It's my cup of tea, so I'll have to check it out!!

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Kinda

I kinda had trippy dreams as a kid where I predicted events in my own future to perfect detail like I am in a specific part of a pavement, wearing specific clothes, specific cars go past and its a town I have never been in my life and they all come true (well at least until my late 20's when I had a traumatic incident in my life)

I still can somehow in my dreams ask myself to remember "forgotten" memories from the past and get a visual and audio record of them.

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No, but that's not to say I believe there isn't a multiverse.

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Never did. It's just fanciful stuff to put in fiction even if its not theoretically impossible. Not like you could ever prove it even if it's true. You could never travel to another universe. It's like when people ask what's beyond our universe or what is it expanding into. By sheer fact it's not part of this universe you can never interact with it.

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Zeus posted...

Considering the sheer number of other planets we can terraform and colonize, worrying about doing that before the Earth becomes uninhabitable is just silly.

That's assuming we actually manage to terraform or colonize even a single planet before we hit the expiration date on the one we're currently ruining.

But even if we did, there's still a hard limit on the timeline of the universe - new stars won't continually form forever, and energy will be increasingly dispersed, meaning we'd eventually run out of places to keep running away to.

Short of figuring out time travel (to permanently jump backwards as a race to the beginning of time and start all over again) or dimensional travel (to jump into a new fresh universe and exploit the hell out of it the way we always do), even the most optimistic assumptions about human development and advancement still hit a hard wall where physics themselves make eternity impossible.

And that's assuming we don't kill ourselves off or severely backslide technologically over the next few centuries. It wouldn't be the first time in human history that the most advanced civilization collapsed. Nor the first time in Earth's history that the most advanced species died off.
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Revelation34 posted...

Also that last sentence is a MIB reference?

No, but yes if you liked it. :)

wolfy42 posted...

My idea is basically that your conciousness is the same in all of them where your actions/reality etc have been the same, up until they diverge.

The multiverses that they discuss in media (i.e. that are relevant to an individual) are fun but complete fiction. As Connor said the only ones that are being discussed as real possibilities are ones where the laws of physics are different in infinite small ways. There's no reason to think that existence would carry over to a different one.

wolfy42 posted...

In theory it's possible within the next 20 years easily for something to be developed that prolongs life

I'm writing a book about this. :) The premise is that a guy discovers a method to stop aging. However, he realizes that if he releases it and everyone lives very long lives than we would destroy the earth more or less instantly via overpopulation/environmental ruin/wars/etc...so what to do? It's a book of tortured moralizing. :)

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JamesOwnzMaz posted...

Isnt that rick and morty always going on about

No, Rick gets killed surprisingly often. He just has backup plans.

LinkPizza posted...

That also seems like The Virtues Last Reward series.

That's the title of one of the games. The series is The Nonary Games.

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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

That's the title of one of the games. The series is The Nonary Games.

Sorry. I meant to say Zero Escape Series. Thats the series name But its also the Nonary Games I was still waking up when I posted
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LinkPizza posted...

Sorry. I meant to say Zero Escape Series.

Okay, I wasn't sure about that myself as Zero Escape only appears in one title.

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OhhhJa posted...

As much as I like pondering the idea of the multiverse or universes constantly breaking off from our own at every possible moment, there's literally nothing to support it being reality. Some great thinkers have conceived of these kinds of possibilities but there's zero evidence of any of it. Not to say it couldn't be possible but there's zero reason to believe that's definitely the nature of reality

I don't believe that is definitely the nature of reality but I would like to think it is

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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

Okay, I wasn't sure about that myself as Zero Escape only appears in one title.

Yeah. But on the side of the cases, I think it said Zero Escape on at least 2 of them. And if you look it up, the wiki says Zero Escape is the series. It also say Nonary Games. So, probably both

https://i.imgur.com/phipVXu.jpg
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I mean it's a fun thought experiment, but beyond that, there's no evidence one way or the other, and it's not like we could ever interact with another universe anyway. So not really.

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wolfy42 posted...

The evidence of my life leads towards the fact that there are indeed multiple/infinite universes.

I have had over 20 times where I survived a near death experience when it should not have been possible. A few times makes sense, over 20 gets to the point where the only explanation is that we continue to exist as long as there is any possibility of us doing so. Your conciousness/mind just moves forward into another universe where everything was the same, other than you surviving.

You die, but since there are infinite yous in other universes, it doesn't matter.

I think if you moved on to a parallel version of you then you probably wouldn't recall that the other you died though. But yeah, the idea of quantum immortality is fascinating but also kind of terrifying

I dont believe in the parallel universe theory.
But i do believe in a multiverse in a sense, as in there was multiple big bangs, making multiple universes in their own bubbles across space

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I do think though that it's possible there were previous universes. The math works out that eventually, somewhere in the Universe at any point in time the Higgs field could quantum tunnel to a new energy level, and this would essentially be a new big bang. And even in the heat death of the universe, eventually, somewhere, some particle will quantum tunnel to a new energy level.

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LinkPizza posted...

And if you look it up, the wiki says Zero Escape is the series. It also say Nonary Games. So, probably both

I think the names exist in a fluctuating quantum state of uncertainty. I know them as 999, Zero Escape: Virtues Last Reward, and Zero Time Dilemma.

But the 1st one is also called "9 Hours, 9 Persons, 9 Doors". It's entirely possible the 3rd one is actually "Zero Escape: Zero Time Dilemma" since having a consistent naming scheme would just make it that much more inconsistent. If you consider that they actually do escape then the ritual of the nonary game is what really ties them together as a series. Plus even with 1/6th the reaction time you would still notice that you were in 1/6th gravity.

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Hmm

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Ogurisama posted...

I dont believe in the parallel universe theory.
But i do believe in a multiverse in a sense, as in there was multiple big bangs, making multiple universes in their own bubbles across space

Bubbles all the way across.
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DirtBasedSoap posted...

yeah isnt that crazy. if alternate universes exist, there are so many with very very slight differences

theres an alternate universe where every single PotDer has 2 dicks

*sings like a commercial jingle* Double the pleasure, double the fun!

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I believe that interdimensional travel exists but nobody visits us because we're "that" dimension.

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Flappers posted...

I believe that interdimensional travel exists but nobody visits us because we're "that" dimension.

The war one?
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Flappers posted...

I believe that interdimensional travel exists but nobody visits us because we're "that" dimension.

Reminds me of the Myth series by Robert Asprin

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No.

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