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UnfairRepresent
08/05/21 5:05:15 AM
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Lost Odyssey springs to mind, where the opening boss is the hardest in the game

Also Gizmaluke in FF9. Not difficult since that game is easy but he's randomly the hardest boss in the game like 18% into it.

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Xethuminra
08/05/21 5:13:01 AM
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Early FromSoftware games

Its all fun & games until a Skeleton shows up.
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ZeldaMutant
08/05/21 5:22:02 AM
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Ninja Gaiden 2004/Black/Sigma's first boss is one of the most difficult bosses in the game, unless you cheese him by jumpslashing off walls.

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pegusus123456
08/05/21 5:25:39 AM
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The first boss of The Witcher 1 is by far the hardest encounter in the game.

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UnfairRepresent
08/05/21 5:27:17 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
The first boss of The Witcher 1 is by far the hardest encounter in the game.
Really?
I don't remember any boss in that game sticking out

Was that the big ant thing in the castle?

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St0rmFury
08/05/21 5:36:09 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
pegusus123456 posted...
The first boss of The Witcher 1 is by far the hardest encounter in the game.
Really?
I don't remember any boss in that game sticking out

Was that the big ant thing in the castle?

No, its that god damn hellhound.
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DuneMan
08/05/21 7:23:18 AM
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Bloodstained was like that on the harder difficulty setting. The boss on the boat killed the player in 2 hits, and used screen-sweeping beam attacks that you were meant to dodge by leaving enemy add monsters alive to use as shields...

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ToPoPO
08/05/21 7:36:00 AM
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Trails in the Sky SC
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Garioshi
08/05/21 7:38:06 AM
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Tales of Vesperia.

You know the one.

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NeonOctopus
08/05/21 7:38:41 AM
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That beast boss in Tales of Vesperia. Literally took me hours of grinding just to beat >_>

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NeonOctopus
08/05/21 7:39:57 AM
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I would say Matador in Nocturne. But once you understand weaknesses and buffs and passively prepare for him while going through the game, he isn't that bad. But 1st-time players are definitely gonna be boned in the butt by him >_>

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jpenny2
08/05/21 7:40:53 AM
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Spikey Tiger in Secret of Mana is one of the hardest bosses in the game (not that many of the bosses are very hard), and I think it's only the second or third boss.

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Turbam
08/05/21 7:41:45 AM
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Pretty much any Shin megami tensei game

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Antifar
08/05/21 7:46:32 AM
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Yakuza 0 and 1 (Kiwami at least) throw some real tests at you early

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Xavier_On_High
08/05/21 7:50:55 AM
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The second boss in Breath of Fire is way harder than it needs to be.

But boss difficulty scaling is just chaotic in that game.

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VitalGetPrank
08/05/21 8:31:56 AM
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It's not early but Roxas is weirdly the hardest storyline fight in KH2.

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ChocoboMogALT
08/05/21 8:34:13 AM
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Mystic Quest lol
Pokemon games

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Thekiller37
08/05/21 8:37:34 AM
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St0rmFury posted...
No, its that god damn hellhound.
Oh god, fuck that thing. With prior knowledge and quicksave/quickload abuse, I still got my ass handed to me dozens of times on my first playthrough.

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Zanzenburger
08/05/21 8:39:25 AM
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Whitney in Pokemon Gold and Silver.

Boost Guardian in Metroid Prime 2.

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Doe
08/05/21 8:45:01 AM
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Antifar posted...
Yakuza 0 and 1 (Kiwami at least) throw some real tests at you early
Yeah the first boss in Y0 is by far the hardest encounter in the game, both because you don't have Beast yet (which destroys him), you probably didn't bring many healing items either.

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Ilishe
08/05/21 8:47:20 AM
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Persona 2 Eternal Punishment you can get wiped by random battles in the first fucking dungeon.

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Solar_Crimson
08/05/21 8:47:24 AM
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Shin Megami Tensei IV - The Minotaur, especially if you're unlucky enough to get Walter as your partner, because he will keep casting Agi, which Minotaur reflects, and with SMT4's mechanics, will likely cause him to smirk and then party-wipe your team with Labrys Strike.

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Kitt
08/05/21 8:48:49 AM
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I personally never had issues with it myself, but I got my roommate to play God of War 2 for the first time at some point last year and he spent hours stuck on the Colossus boss fight at the very start of the game before rage quitting. Shit made me laugh so hard.

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pegusus123456
08/05/21 9:03:14 AM
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Kitt posted...
I personally never had issues with it myself, but I got my roommate to play God of War 2 for the first time at some point last year and he spent hours stuck on the Colossus boss fight at the very start of the game before rage quitting. Shit made me laugh so hard.
Is that even a boss fight? I seem to remember it just being QTEs.

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Kitt
08/05/21 9:08:01 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
Is that even a boss fight? I seem to remember it just being QTEs.
It's a boss fight with QTEs. You have to jump back and forth between platforms to use the harpoons while dodging the Colossus' attacks and punishing its hand. Sometimes QTE stuff pop up when you damage it enough, in typical God of War fashion.
Watching him play was delightfully painful and the game was on normal lol

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SMAP-
08/05/21 9:14:10 AM
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most KH1 bosses before you learn cure

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Spidey5
08/05/21 9:19:22 AM
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In the first Neptunia game on the vita/pc you breeze through the first couple of hours until you hit a steel wall against Black Heart. Then you have to grind like 10 levels to have a 50 percent chance of winning.

Back in 2003 I was still in the "only levels my starter" phase in pokemon ruby. I could not get past the rival battle after slateport city.
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justaguy3492
08/05/21 9:22:47 AM
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When I was 10, pokemon yellow.

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legendary_zell
08/05/21 9:41:15 AM
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DMC 3 Cerberus is always the boss I think of when I think of a game literally forcing you to git gud.

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Srk700
08/05/21 9:54:39 AM
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Does Urizen in DMC5 (and any bosses like him) count? By that I mean bosses where it's intended for you to lose but if you manage to beat them you get an alternative ending that is akin to beating the game.
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UnfairRepresent
08/06/21 5:16:30 PM
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Srk700 posted...
Does Urizen in DMC5 (and any bosses like him) count? By that I mean bosses where it's intended for you to lose but if you manage to beat them you get an alternative ending that is akin to beating the game.
I guess

Feels like "mandatory" implies you have to win even if doesn't hyperliterally mean that

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bigtiggie23
08/06/21 5:21:28 PM
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The first couple bosses in Dragon Quest 8 are pretty tough. Especially the giant squid boss right before you get Jessica.
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WaterLink
08/06/21 5:34:39 PM
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Zanzenburger posted...
Whitney in Pokemon Gold and Silver.

Never understood why so many people have problems with her. If you started with Cyndaquil - use smoke screen to lower accuracy and she usually can't do rollout consecutively enough to destroy your team. If you started with Totodile - you should have learned rage by then which you can build up on the Clefairy and should be doing good damage by the time she throws the Miltank out. If you started with Chikorita, then you can use a leveled up Pidgey to use Sand attack plus it's resistant to rollout anyway. Or catch a Geodude to use rollout of it's own with high defense similar to the Rage strategy. Or just trade for the Machop in Goldenrod to take advantage of the typing matchup.

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Guerrilla Soldier
08/06/21 5:42:41 PM
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ZeldaMutant posted...
Ninja Gaiden 2004/Black/Sigma's first boss is one of the most difficult bosses in the game, unless you cheese him by jumpslashing off walls.

omg this.

on one hand, it's really awesome that your master prepares you for the rest of the game. but on the other hand, fuck that guy.

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ApherosyLove
08/06/21 6:10:49 PM
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WaterLink posted...
Never understood why so many people have problems with her.
Most people were kids who never bothered with non-damaging moves, my guy.

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ApherosyLove
08/06/21 6:11:36 PM
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Also, Materia Keeper in FF7.

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Xatrion
08/06/21 6:14:02 PM
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Hyperdimension Neptunia 1. It's smooth sailing until you face Black Heart.

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synth_real
08/06/21 6:21:31 PM
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Baldur's Gate. The game just kicks your ass in general, but the mage outside the Friendly Arm Inn is a rough fight unless you get lucky and make all your saves.

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UnfairRepresent
08/08/21 9:34:52 AM
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synth_real posted...
Baldur's Gate. The game just kicks your ass in general, but the mage outside the Friendly Arm Inn is a rough fight unless you get lucky and make all your saves.
I remember whooping that guys ass

Guess it depends on if you pick up the 2 crazy assholes on the way or not

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synth_real
08/08/21 11:11:29 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
I remember whooping that guys ass

Guess it depends on if you pick up the 2 crazy assholes on the way or not
You can also go north of the Inn first and pick up Ajantis before that fight, as long as you don't mind fighting your way through hobgoblins to get him. You can even run over to the guards and they'll help defend you. A lot of people still had trouble with that fight, though.

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Kloe_Rinz
08/08/21 11:13:36 PM
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Cant remember how early it is but that table boss fight in persona 3

also in persona 5, the first palace boss is a difficulty wall
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UnfairRepresent
08/09/21 3:52:29 AM
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synth_real posted...
You can also go north of the Inn first and pick up Ajantis before that fight, as long as you don't mind fighting your way through hobgoblins to get him. You can even run over to the guards and they'll help defend you. A lot of people still had trouble with that fight, though.
Adjantis was my bro

But I doubt many people picked him up before that fight

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Solid Snake07
08/09/21 4:16:25 AM
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I never made it past the first boss in control. Died like 5 times got annoyed and never went back to it.

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Guide
08/09/21 4:22:22 AM
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Every boss mech in MGS: PW takes entirely too long, even with good gear. That first one isn't hard, but it is really fucking annoying.

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pegusus123456
08/09/21 4:22:43 AM
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Solid Snake07 posted...
I never made it past the first boss in control. Died like 5 times got annoyed and never went back to it.
Yeah, he is kind of a difficulty spike.

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UnfairRepresent
08/09/21 4:26:13 AM
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Guide posted...
Every boss mech in MGS: PW takes entirely too long, even with good gear. That first one isn't hard, but it is really fucking annoying.
Yeah they're designed for multiplayer so if you're playing single player they have absurd healthbars

The torture sequence is also super prolonged for the same reason

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Hambo the Hog
08/09/21 4:27:50 AM
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The door in Beast's Castle in KH2. Killed me more times than Xaldin ever did.

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DeadBankerDream
08/09/21 4:29:50 AM
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SMAP- posted...
most KH1 bosses before you learn cure
The Trickster thing whatever its called in Wonderland is pretty assbutt hard on proud mode when you don't have cure, yeah.


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