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ArvTheGreat 07/10/21 7:43:10 AM #1:	Luca they are rinse and repeating these movies in different settings --- Things are about to get arvified <cite>ArvTheGreat posted [p:955936910] in All these ... [t:79557665]...</cite> <quote>Luca they are rinse and repeating these movies in different settings </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Clench281 07/10/21 7:53:29 AM #2:	Moana is fantastic Raya was ok Coco is amazing Haven't seen Luca --- Take me for what I am -- who I was meant to be. And if you give a damn, take me baby, or leave me. <cite>Clench281 posted [p:955937046] in All these ... [t:79557665]...</cite> <quote>Moana is fantastic Raya was ok Coco is amazing Haven't seen Luca </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TomNook 07/10/21 7:58:38 AM #3:	This is what Disney does. I'm glad they are stretching out to TV now though. Leave movies alone for a while. Let TV suffer the pain of everything becoming capeshit. --- Bells, bells, bells! <cite>TomNook posted [p:955937115] in All these ... [t:79557665]...</cite> <quote>This is what Disney does. I'm glad they are stretching out to TV now though. Leave movies alone for a while. Let TV suffer the pain of everything becoming capeshit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Judgmenl 07/10/21 7:59:39 AM #4:	Threads like this remind me I should probably have kids one day because I have no idea what you're talking about. Then I realize I am terrible at relationships, terrible with kids, and too cheap for either. --- You're a regular Jack Kerouac Reality is overrated <cite>Judgmenl posted [p:955937124] in All these ... [t:79557665]...</cite> <quote>Threads like this remind me I should probably have kids one day because I have no idea what you're talking about. Then I realize I am terrible at relationships, terrible with kids, and too cheap for either. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ArvTheGreat 07/10/21 8:05:31 AM #5:	Judgmenl posted... Threads like this remind me I should probably have kids one day because I have no idea what you're talking about. Then I realize I am terrible at relationships, terrible with kids, and too cheap for either. Thats the only reason Arv is watching these movies --- Things are about to get arvified <cite>ArvTheGreat posted [p:955937197] in All these ... [t:79557665]...</cite> <quote>Judgmenl posted... </cite> <quote>Threads like this remind me I should probably have kids one day because I have no idea what you're talking about. Then I realize I am terrible at relationships, terrible with kids, and too cheap for either.</quote>Thats the only reason Arv is watching these movies </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wpot 07/10/21 10:03:14 AM #6:	Clench281 posted... Moana is fantastic Raya was ok Coco is amazing Haven't seen Luca This. But yeah, the Moana and Raya characters felt too close. --- Pronounced "Whup-pot". Say it. Use it. <cite>wpot posted [p:955938989] in All these ... [t:79557665]...</cite> <quote>Clench281 posted... </cite> <quote>Moana is fantastic Raya was ok Coco is amazing Haven't seen Luca</quote>This. But yeah, the Moana and Raya characters felt too close. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 07/10/21 10:13:38 AM #7:	wpot posted... This. But yeah, the Moana and Raya characters felt too close. How could they have TWO ethic characters?! --- my resting temp can easily be in the 90's -Krazy_Kirby <cite>Mead posted [p:955939154] in All these ... [t:79557665]...</cite> <quote>wpot posted... </cite> <quote>This. But yeah, the Moana and Raya characters felt too close.</quote> How could they have TWO ethic characters?! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 07/10/21 10:22:10 AM #8:	Mead posted... How could they have TWO ethic characters?! I mean, not having seen Raya yet, I can still tell that she's also water-themed, and that the movie's central conflict involves her recognizing and acting against a growing threat that her traditionalist society isn't willing or able to deal with, partnering with a divine being who isn't as powerful as she expects and learning how to work with and around that limitation. The fact that they're both ethnic is pretty secondary to identifying them as similar. Clench281 posted... Coco is amazing It really is. Criminally underappreciated movie, that one. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:955939333] in All these ... [t:79557665]...</cite> <quote>Mead posted... </cite> <quote>How could they have TWO ethic characters?!</quote> I mean, not having seen Raya yet, I can still tell that she's also water-themed, and that the movie's central conflict involves her recognizing and acting against a growing threat that her traditionalist society isn't willing or able to deal with, partnering with a divine being who isn't as powerful as she expects and learning how to work with and around that limitation. The fact that they're both ethnic is pretty secondary to identifying them as similar. Clench281 posted... </cite> <quote>Coco is amazing</quote> It really is. Criminally underappreciated movie, that one. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wpot 07/10/21 11:41:38 AM #9:	adjl posted... I mean, not having seen Raya yet, I can still tell that she's also water-themed, and that the movie's central conflict involves her recognizing and acting against a growing threat that her traditionalist society isn't willing or able to deal with, partnering with a divine being who isn't as powerful as she expects and learning how to work with and around that limitation. The fact that they're both ethnic is pretty secondary to identifying them as similar. Yes, this (although Raya isn't water themed so much as the dragon) and even more to the point Moana and Raya have very similar personalities and values. The Anna/Moana/Raya determined-and-effective-but-pleasantly-perky princess character is a good one, but it's now overdone. Frankly, it also would have been better if the ethnic differences went more than skin deep, but as is they're all recognizable Americans if you close your eyes. I don't want to give them too hard a time - they're good movies - but it's a fair criticism. And before someone tries to call me on it, yes, many ethnicities can be American...of course. But non-American viewpoints (be they Anna's Norwegian or what have you) could mix things up a little. --- Pronounced "Whup-pot". Say it. Use it. <cite>wpot posted [p:955941057] in All these ... [t:79557665]...</cite> <quote>adjl posted... </cite> <quote>I mean, not having seen Raya yet, I can still tell that she's also water-themed, and that the movie's central conflict involves her recognizing and acting against a growing threat that her traditionalist society isn't willing or able to deal with, partnering with a divine being who isn't as powerful as she expects and learning how to work with and around that limitation. The fact that they're both ethnic is pretty secondary to identifying them as similar.</quote>Yes, this (although Raya isn't water themed so much as the dragon) and even more to the point Moana and Raya have very similar personalities and values. The Anna/Moana/Raya determined-and-effective-but-pleasantly-perky princess character is a good one, but it's now overdone. Frankly, it also would have been better if the ethnic differences went more than skin deep, but as is they're all recognizable Americans if you close your eyes. I don't want to give them too hard a time - they're good movies - but it's a fair criticism. And before someone tries to call me on it, yes, many ethnicities can be American...of course. But non-American viewpoints (be they Anna's Norwegian or what have you) could mix things up a little. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 07/10/21 12:00:56 PM #10:	adjl posted... The fact that they're both ethnic is pretty secondary to identifying them as similar. Nope its actually an important part of both characters identities. Ton of Disney princesses in previous films that basically carbon copies of each other, but as soon as there are a couple of nonwhite ones in a row it becomes an issue for some people --- my resting temp can easily be in the 90's -Krazy_Kirby <cite>Mead posted [p:955941504] in All these ... [t:79557665]...</cite> <quote>adjl posted... </cite> <quote>The fact that they're both ethnic is pretty secondary to identifying them as similar.</quote> Nope its actually an important part of both characters identities. Ton of Disney princesses in previous films that basically carbon copies of each other, but as soon as there are a couple of nonwhite ones in a row it becomes an issue for some people </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 07/10/21 12:02:24 PM #11:	wpot posted... But non-American viewpoints (be they Anna's Norwegian or what have you) could mix things up a little. dude have you ever actually watched a fucking Disney movie wpot posted... The Anna/Moana/Raya determined-and-effective-but-pleasantly-perky princess character is a good one, but it's now overdone. argh I cant believe disney keeps portraying positive yet relatable characters for young girls, the nerve --- my resting temp can easily be in the 90's -Krazy_Kirby <cite>Mead posted [p:955941535] in All these ... [t:79557665]...</cite> <quote>wpot posted... </cite> <quote>But non-American viewpoints (be they Anna's Norwegian or what have you) could mix things up a little.</quote> dude have you ever actually watched a fucking Disney movie wpot posted... </cite> <quote>The Anna/Moana/Raya determined-and-effective-but-pleasantly-perky princess character is a good one, but it's now overdone.</quote> argh I cant believe disney keeps portraying positive yet relatable characters for young girls, the nerve </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wydrah 07/10/21 12:09:03 PM #12:	Here's the soundtrack for the next Disney animated musical: 1. Expository song about the setting and people/creatures in the setting 2. The young protagonist's "I want" song 3. The underdeveloped villain's "I want" song 4. The goofy sidekick's "I want" song 5. The things-are-suddenly-very-bad song 6. The love song 7. The young protagonist's "I want" reprise 8. The everything-is-okay-now song (often no or limited lyrics) There will be at least one really goofy, colorful song to make the really young kids want to buy merchandise. --- PotD Paradiso www.potdparadiso.net <cite>wydrah posted [p:955941668] in All these ... [t:79557665]...</cite> <quote>Here's the soundtrack for the next Disney animated musical: 1. Expository song about the setting and people/creatures in the setting 2. The young protagonist's "I want" song 3. The underdeveloped villain's "I want" song 4. The goofy sidekick's "I want" song 5. The things-are-suddenly-very-bad song 6. The love song 7. The young protagonist's "I want" reprise 8. The everything-is-okay-now song (often no or limited lyrics) There will be at least one really goofy, colorful song to make the really young kids want to buy merchandise. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ArvTheGreat 07/10/21 4:01:26 PM #13:	Can the movie onward be added in to the list --- Things are about to get arvified <cite>ArvTheGreat posted [p:955947882] in All these ... [t:79557665]...</cite> <quote>Can the movie onward be added in to the list </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FatalAccident 07/10/21 4:05:08 PM #14:	Raya was phenomenal. Would watch it again in a heartbeat, easily one of the best Disney films to come out in recent years. --- walks away <cite>FatalAccident posted [p:955947964] in All these ... [t:79557665]...</cite> <quote>Raya was phenomenal. Would watch it again in a heartbeat, easily one of the best Disney films to come out in recent years. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 07/10/21 4:06:34 PM #15:	I thought Raya was ok but pretty forgettable. Probably would have liked it more if it was a musical. I think that Moana and Tangled were much better. --- my resting temp can easily be in the 90's -Krazy_Kirby <cite>Mead posted [p:955947989] in All these ... [t:79557665]...</cite> <quote>I thought Raya was ok but pretty forgettable. Probably would have liked it more if it was a musical. I think that Moana and Tangled were much better. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Phantom_Nook 07/10/21 4:50:23 PM #16:	Raya was basically made so it could fit perfectly into Kingdom Hearts. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.2 <cite>Phantom_Nook posted [p:955949026] in All these ... [t:79557665]...</cite> <quote>Raya was basically made so it could fit perfectly into Kingdom Hearts.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metalsonic66 07/10/21 4:53:14 PM #17:	ArvTheGreat posted... Luca they are rinse and repeating these movies in different settings None of those movies are actually similar --- PSN/Steam ID: Metalsonic_69 Big bombs go kabang. <cite>Metalsonic66 posted [p:955949096] in All these ... [t:79557665]...</cite> <quote>ArvTheGreat posted... </cite> <quote>Luca they are rinse and repeating these movies in different settings</quote>None of those movies are actually similar </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wpot 07/10/21 6:32:19 PM #18:	Mead posted... dude have you ever actually watched a fucking Disney movie Indeed I have. They add lore and visuals from lots of localities, but the smiley personalities are very American. That's not BAD for an American company, it just sets up my next point. Coco, which was recognizably Pixar (as opposed to classic Disney), used personalities that seemed better matched to the locale IMO. Mead posted... argh I cant believe disney keeps portraying positive yet relatable characters for young girls, the nerve Argh, unnecessary overreaction! ArvTheGreat posted... Can the movie onward be added in to the list That one was solid with fresh character personalities...although, again, it was Pixar. Great movie. They're all great movies. My point is simply that Raya was perhaps a bit more good than great in part because the character tropes are getting a bit stale. Also, the strong "don't be so polarized" message didn't quite work for me. It's easy to get along if there are external threats. If I were to blindly trust others to share my values and not take advantage of me without a threat...yeah, not right now. --- Pronounced "Whup-pot". Say it. Use it. <cite>wpot posted [p:955951573] in All these ... [t:79557665]...</cite> <quote>Mead posted... </cite> <quote>dude have you ever actually watched a fucking Disney movie</quote>Indeed I have. They add lore and visuals from lots of localities, but the smiley personalities are very American. That's not BAD for an American company, it just sets up my next point. Coco, which was recognizably Pixar (as opposed to classic Disney), used personalities that seemed better matched to the locale IMO. Mead posted... </cite> <quote>argh I cant believe disney keeps portraying positive yet relatable characters for young girls, the nerve</quote>Argh, unnecessary overreaction! ArvTheGreat posted... </cite> <quote>Can the movie onward be added in to the list</quote>That one was solid with fresh character personalities...although, again, it was Pixar. Great movie. They're all great movies. My point is simply that Raya was perhaps a bit more good than great in part because the character tropes are getting a bit stale. Also, the strong "don't be so polarized" message didn't quite work for me. It's easy to get along if there are external threats. If I were to blindly trust others to share my values and not take advantage of me without a threat...yeah, not right now. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ArvTheGreat 07/10/21 6:41:49 PM #19:	Arvs not saying they are bad movies nor pointing out ethnicities. Watching some of them its like hey Arvs seen this from the last movie and yes Arvs aware of the older movies but Arv isnt talking about them --- Things are about to get arvified <cite>ArvTheGreat posted [p:955951835] in All these ... [t:79557665]...</cite> <quote>Arvs not saying they are bad movies nor pointing out ethnicities. Watching some of them its like hey Arvs seen this from the last movie and yes Arvs aware of the older movies but Arv isnt talking about them </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GanonsSpirit 07/10/21 7:10:53 PM #20:	Raya was the worst mainline Disney movie in a long time. --- https://imgur.com/tsQUpxC Thanks, Nade Duck! [[[[[[[[[[[[[[[\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] <cite>GanonsSpirit posted [p:955952608] in All these ... [t:79557665]...</cite> <quote>Raya was the worst mainline Disney movie in a long time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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